tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post2671287372812138960..comments2024-03-28T19:12:40.332+01:00Comments on Law 5 - The Referee: Ravshan Irmatov in charge of 2019 AFC Asian Cup Final Law5TheRefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12274952933938429751noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-17658229669660470282019-02-01T22:45:53.517+01:002019-02-01T22:45:53.517+01:00I follow Vlad's logic, but I would argue that ...I follow Vlad's logic, but I would argue that this should not formulate a criticism of Irmatov, who executed AFC's expected decision, and probably also UEFA's. Handling seems to be considered in a very computerised, box-ticking way, rather than a common-sensical one these days.<br />Still, I am okay with this decision. <br /><br />I only echo both your thoughts about the rest of the performance. <br /><br />I would also like to thank Vlad and Howard Maxi for their dedication during this championship to bring all the readers a holistic coverage of the Asian Cup. I understand it is difficult to follow the competition from Europe (only Balkans even bothered to televise matches), so I would like to thank everyone who tried their best in order to follow it. <br /><br />To draw the competition to a close, you can look forward to our retrospect of the refereeing in the championship, which you can expect coming up soon.<br /><br />Finally, if we look ahead to the summer, we can see that there are many interesting championships to look forward to.<br />Let me say that we will need more (than three) reporters in order to do these competitions (AFCON, Gold Cup, Copa América, U20 WC, U21 EURO and more) justice!Mikael Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05362465559010649548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-83729539746981018252019-02-01T22:45:00.777+01:002019-02-01T22:45:00.777+01:0079 (penalty) - For me, it is a very harsh decision...79 (penalty) - For me, it is a very harsh decision to award the penalty. Arms are in a natural position when jumping and as Vlad outlined above, unexpected ball and very short distance meaning Yoshida is unable to prevent ball from hitting hand. Very similar to the call made in World Cup Final after OFR by Nestor PitanaMelroseRefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02273872809483882790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-18997070610457787032019-02-01T20:10:28.832+01:002019-02-01T20:10:28.832+01:00For me, it's a wrong decision to award a penal...For me, it's a wrong decision to award a penalty. The Japanese jumps for the ball (not to block a shot), the ball is unexpected and played from a very short distance. Nah, it's not deliberate handling.<br /><br />The rest on an expected level, especially good and wise management at the beginning, what was nice to see from the Uzbek.<br /><br />Thank you, Howard and Mikael, for your great work through the bigger part of the tournament due to my inability.Euro Soccer Refhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901062602280003219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-34015483464035943402019-02-01T19:50:06.169+01:002019-02-01T19:50:06.169+01:00JAPAN - QATAR, Ravshan Irmatov
Penalty (mute the ...JAPAN - QATAR, Ravshan Irmatov<br /><br />Penalty (mute the incompetent co-commentator): https://streamable.com/acv36<br />Refereeing highlights: https://streamable.com/hr4aq<br /><br />First, the most crucial scene: Penalty for Qatar (handball) in 81' after on-field review. For me, it is a correct decision, you can watch the scene above.<br /><br />Apart from that, the final was a rather fair game and Irmatov handled the first 80 minutes without much fuss. Good foul detection, the one rough tackle he carded, apart from that a good warning (9') to avoid an earlier YC. One point for improvement would be the missed YC for reckless use of arms in 30'.<br /><br />The final part of the match got a bit more scrappy, but he was never in any danger of relinquishing control. We know Irmatov is not always the most "involved" referee, but for this match, I think that style was well-fitting. I agree with all the other cautions handed out, especially the one in 86' was very good, perhaps he had the scene from 9' involving the same player in mind.<br /><br />Final assessment: Decent performance by Irmatov in a good game between two teams focused on playing football. Correctly solved crucial scene with help from the VAR. Kudos for solving it rather quick as well! He had some weaker moments at this tournament, but in the end, he can be quite satisfied with it overall.<br /><br />As the tournament is now history, I would like to give a big thank you to MichaelW and Vlad for their tremendous work on reporting on this tournament and for cutting and uploading all the video material. It was an absolute pleasure to read and watch it as well as work with you!<br /><br />Also, we're discussing writing an overview of the referees and the tournament, so stay tuned for that one!Howard Maxihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582874212596977914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-36075231828668942722019-02-01T16:42:46.028+01:002019-02-01T16:42:46.028+01:00Irmatov had a decent game so far, although not ove...Irmatov had a decent game so far, although not overly challenging. Now a correctly awarded pk for handball after VAR consultation makes it 3-1 for Qatar. Not a blatant miss, good intervention, for me a fully correct call.Howard Maxihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582874212596977914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-61437914618383352512019-02-01T16:41:51.711+01:002019-02-01T16:41:51.711+01:00PK by Irmatov after VAR review for handball. Quite...PK by Irmatov after VAR review for handball. Quite similar to Mateu Lahoz's one in Denmark-Australia.Quilavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14796817199872356403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-86670444421927671752019-02-01T16:16:42.063+01:002019-02-01T16:16:42.063+01:00So did I. However, this might be a sign. Things ha...So did I. However, this might be a sign. Things have changed with Velasco, and too much relevance is being given to Elite refs. With that in mind, I think now Carlos del Cerro and Antonio Mateu are the main candidates for the final (and because of that they have been appointed for first legs instead of second), depending on the teams who progress and their performances in the semis. I still expect Undiano and Gil Manzano in the second legs.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811634103906198781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-66474913753821819332019-02-01T16:09:34.112+01:002019-02-01T16:09:34.112+01:00Ouch. I could expect those for 2nd leg, not for 1s...Ouch. I could expect those for 2nd leg, not for 1st one. Gil Manzano could be appointed then in 2nd leg (I'd say in the Clásico) and maybe a 2nd Group like Hernández Hernández or Sánchez Martínez in the other one. I expect Undiano in the Copa del Rey Final rather than in league Clásico.Quilavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14796817199872356403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-18302539549452244952019-02-01T16:08:33.580+01:002019-02-01T16:08:33.580+01:00Moreover, this round will have two AVARs.
Betis -...Moreover, this round will have two AVARs.<br /><br />Betis - Valencia:<br />Ref: Carlos del Cerro Grande<br />AR1: (GUESSED) Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez<br />AR2: (GUESSED) Abraham Álvarez Cantón<br />VAR: Xavier Estrada Fernández<br />AVAR1: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández<br />AVAR2: Roberto Alonso Fernández<br /><br />Barcelona - Real Madrid:<br />Ref: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz<br />AR1: (GUESSED) Pau Cebrián Devís<br />AR2: (GUESSED) Iker de Francisco Grijalba<br />VAR: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea<br />AVAR1: José Luis González González<br />AVAR2: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar<br />Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811634103906198781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-30868125452158803462019-02-01T16:03:28.671+01:002019-02-01T16:03:28.671+01:00Official:
Betis - Valencia: Carlos del Cerro Gra...Official: <br /><br />Betis - Valencia: Carlos del Cerro Grande<br />Barcelona - Real Madrid: Antonio Miguel Mateu LahozGeorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811634103906198781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-3619930713650850222019-02-01T15:45:12.717+01:002019-02-01T15:45:12.717+01:00Based on how the fact that Estrada Fernández alrea...Based on how the fact that Estrada Fernández already had Valencia in 3 consecutive rounds this season (first leg against Ebro, second leg against Sporting and second leg against Getafe), the fact that all 8 refs in the previous round were FIFA and the relevance of the semifinals, I think all 4 Elite referees will be appointed. That means that Mateu Lahoz will surely have one of the two Clásicos, Del Cerro one of the matches between Betis and Valencia. I would say that Undiano will be the other ref in Betis-Valencia (and will have the Clásico in LaLiga) and Gil Manzano, the other Clásico.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811634103906198781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-70123057942862693712019-02-01T14:58:13.300+01:002019-02-01T14:58:13.300+01:00OT: So, we have Barcelona-Madrid and Betis-Valenci...OT: So, we have Barcelona-Madrid and Betis-Valencia in Copa del Rey semifinals.<br /><br />As the Final, no matter the contenders, will be 99% surely assigned to Undiano Mallenco, there's a very interesting situation concerning the referees. On one hand, neither Estrada Fernández nor Del Cerro Grande can handle a Clásico as Estrada is Catalan and Del Cerro from Alcalá de Henares, near Madrid. <br /><br />On the other hand, Mateu Lahoz (Valencian), Martínez Munuera (Valencian) and Munuera Montero (Andalusian). Gil Manzano, Hernández Hernández, Sánchez Martínez or De Burgos Bengoetxea would be completely "neutral" choices, but the two latters have already officiated in QF 2nd leg. <br /><br />For 1st leg, González González, despite not being a FIFA referee, would be a experienced and rather safe choice for semifinals (plus complete neutrality as he's Castilian), also, CTA-RFEF could also try with a still-non-FIFA-but-already-"cored" referee like Alberola Rojas, as they did with De Burgos Bengoetxea in 2017.<br /><br />So, my early prediction is:<br /><br />Barcelona-Madrid: González González/Gil Manzano<br /><br />Betis-Valencia: Alberola Rojas/Hernández HernándezQuilavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14796817199872356403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-13391961562124809202019-02-01T13:30:46.517+01:002019-02-01T13:30:46.517+01:00A reminder:
https://streamable.com/auyh0A reminder:<br />https://streamable.com/auyh0Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01233110893275558420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-16807074280601393142019-01-31T14:02:58.478+01:002019-01-31T14:02:58.478+01:00Interview with Rawshan Irmatov made in the last fe...Interview with Rawshan Irmatov made in the last few days.<br />You can translate it with Google, it will be pretty accurate, it's in Swedish.<br /><br />http://www.gifdk.se/intervju-med-ravshan-irmatov/VGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05143796083259937842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-14003406681035389012019-01-31T10:49:22.106+01:002019-01-31T10:49:22.106+01:00OT
Danish Michael Tykgaard (UEFA 2nd) will take c...OT<br /><br />Danish Michael Tykgaard (UEFA 2nd) will take charge of the Greek derby AEK-PAOK on Sunday. His assistants will be Dennis Rasmussen and Niels Hog. Fourth official will be Emmanouil Skoulas and observer Leif Lindberg.greek refhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04606671215723900933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-22189501042632914322019-01-31T00:05:05.531+01:002019-01-31T00:05:05.531+01:00IMO it is fine to judge the situation as foul.
Hmm...IMO it is fine to judge the situation as foul.<br />Hmmm but the rest... I think she should't give advantage in this DOGSO situation as it was not a crystalclear chance afterwards to score. This was also the reason for further confusion. <br />I am sure she also got completely confused. I am wondering why AR is not giving advice to avoid mistaken identity. It was so obvious who committed the foul. It's really a mess. <br /> Therefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03198522321111091071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-33861245980250618182019-01-30T23:48:55.455+01:002019-01-30T23:48:55.455+01:00OT: Tonight it was a very special day for Spanish ...OT: Tonight it was a very special day for Spanish football as it was the most attended Women's football match ever in my country (around 50.000 people in San Mamés, Bilbao), to watch Athletic "ladies" v Atlético "ladies" match.<br /><br />However, concerning refereeing a very strange and crucial situation happened. There's SPA vs DOGSO, advantage and identity management in this clip.<br /><br />Many questions here:<br /><br />-Was it a RC deserving foul?<br />-Was advantage correctly applied?<br />-What do you think about how the referee dealt with players? (besides, IMO, a terrible decision of mistaken identity)<br /><br />Greetings!<br /><br />https://streamable.com/nmflp<br /><br /><br />Quilavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14796817199872356403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-20898714325083214382019-01-30T22:34:32.845+01:002019-01-30T22:34:32.845+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.MelroseRefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02273872809483882790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-83113158591954390122019-01-30T22:17:05.658+01:002019-01-30T22:17:05.658+01:00Oh, I wasn't aware of his illness. My heartfel...Oh, I wasn't aware of his illness. My heartfelt condolences to the family and friends.<br /><br />Rest in peace...Euro Soccer Refhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901062602280003219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-33179643043029919012019-01-30T21:36:31.123+01:002019-01-30T21:36:31.123+01:00OT
Very sad news from Denmark...after longtime il...OT<br /><br />Very sad news from Denmark...after longtime illness Peter Mikkelsen passed away. One of the best referee ever, and he was also a wonderful, friendly and helpful person. <br />May he rest in peace! The refereeing community will never forget you! Therefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03198522321111091071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-53514883602170355902019-01-30T20:41:43.286+01:002019-01-30T20:41:43.286+01:00Still strange, why Green, the Korean and the Chine...Still strange, why Green, the Korean and the Chinese referees were not allowed, when they already handle VAR matches in their domestic leagues.Philipp Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17241731897712166394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-38826648346038593822019-01-30T20:00:33.465+01:002019-01-30T20:00:33.465+01:00OT: IMO Missed Penalty in Betis-Espanyol no VAR in...OT: IMO Missed Penalty in Betis-Espanyol no VAR intervention (as usual in Spain). around 27'-28'Ykhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15478404936766534777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-91574386315332729282019-01-30T18:08:52.661+01:002019-01-30T18:08:52.661+01:00Videos for Ramos:
https://streamable.com/pj25z RC...Videos for Ramos:<br /><br />https://streamable.com/pj25z RC for VC after VAR intervention<br />https://streamable.com/xvkd2 In-box decisions<br />https://streamable.com/oawgz Disciplinary control<br />https://streamable.com/ldnjh ManagementHoward Maxihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582874212596977914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-64800559796123429822019-01-30T16:18:53.136+01:002019-01-30T16:18:53.136+01:00@f
No discrimination at all. It's a matter of...@f<br /><br />No discrimination at all. It's a matter of handling the exact number of non-competitive games with use of VAR which is required by IFAB in order to allow the referee to handle official games with VAR.<br /><br />In Poland, the required number of games the referee had to handle before being authorized to be VAR / use VAR in an official game were as following:<br />for VAR: 5 offline test games and 5 online test games<br />for referee: 3 online test games<br />AVAR: no requirements<br /><br />In my opinion, that perfectly explains why at Asian Cup VAR was introduced only from quarter-finals and only World Cup referees + Chris Beath were allowed to handle it. That also explains why performance principle was not used.Euro Soccer Refhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901062602280003219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596681196436096141.post-85065715312214555942019-01-30T14:10:54.685+01:002019-01-30T14:10:54.685+01:00OT: This situation from yesterday's Copa del R...OT: This situation from yesterday's Copa del Rey match was being discussed in the previous post, but as the video came today, I post it here too. What are your thoughts?<br /><br />It is a 2nd YC incident.<br /><br />https://www.marca.com/futbol/copa-rey/2019/01/30/5c50e184ca4741c1268b4625.htmlGeorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811634103906198781noreply@blogger.com