17:00 Osasuna - Celta de Vigo Valentín Pizarro Gómez - Gonzalo García González, José Antonio Garrido Romero - Ekaitz García Arriola [Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea, Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar]
19:30 Valladolid - Barcelona Antonio Mateu Lahoz - Pau Cebrián Devís, Iker de Francisco Grijalba - David Iglesias Gutiérrez [Juan Martínez Munuera, Diego Barbero Sevilla]
22:00 Atlético de Madrid - Betis José Luis González González - Rubén Becerril Gómez, Diego Sánchez Rojo - Rubén Eiriz Mata [Xavier Estrada Fernández, Guadalupe Porras Ayuso]
Sunday 12th June
14:00 Espanyol - Eibar Carlos del Cerro Grande - Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez, Abraham Álvarez Cantón - Miguel García Aceña [José María Sánchez Martínez, Guadalupe Porras Ayuso]
17:00 Levante - Athletic Javier Alberola Rojas - Iván Hernández Ramos, Marcos Cerdán Aguilar - Víctor García Verdura [Alfonso Álvarez Izquierdo, Alfonso Baena Espejo]
19:30 Leganés - Valencia Mario Melero López - Manuel Ángel Torre Cimiano, José Luis Martínez Serrato - Francisco Sáez Vital [José Luis Munuera Montero, Íñigo Prieto López de Ceráin]
22:00 Sevilla - Mallorca Adrián Cordero Vega - José Carlos Escuela Melo, Antonio Luis Cerezo Parfenof - Francisco José Hernández Maeso [Alejandro Hernández Hernández, Javier Martínez Nicolás]
Monday 13th July
19:30 Alavés - Getafe Pablo González Fuertes - Alfredo Rodríguez Moreno, Álvaro Yeray Carreño Cabrera - Carlos Fernández Buergo [Eduardo Prieto Iglesias, Javier Martínez Nicolás]
19:30 Villarreal - Real Sociedad Guillermo Cuadra Fernández - Teodoro Sobrino Magán, Juan José López Mir - Alejandro Sánchez Alba [César Soto Grado, Alfonso Costoya Rodríguez]
22:00 Granada - Real Madrid Santiago Jaime Latre - Jorge Bueno Mateo, Fernando Tresaco Escabosa - Juan Antonio Campos Salinas [David Medié Jiménez, Juan Carlos Barranco Trejo]
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You never expect referee to get injured, but I really never understood appointment of third league fourth official. The same with UEFA and non-FIFA referees appointed as fourth official. There is always a slight posibility that fourth official will have to replace referee.
Interesting situation in Croatian league game Gorica-Varazdin, pk was given after OFR. Referee was young and unexperienced Ivan Zupan.
https://streamable.com/cdzle9
The situation has 2 aspects. 1)advantage given but not used, then the ref. whistles the initial foul and after OFR gives a pk for another handball
2)Did he actually whistle and stop the game before the handball in the box? In that case VAR didnt have right to call for OFR. We remember Kulbakov at EURO U21...
I think you‘re right. The game was stopped before the handball incident. Unbelievable error... Did the public notice that or is it only a discussion amongst referees?
I agree. Another disadvantage of keeping the whistle in your mouth and not in your hand. Otherwise might have seen in the video, when the hand was led towards the mouth. Do you know, whether the VAR has sound available in Croatia? IIRC, this wasn't the case in Germany at the beginning and only introduced after a similar incident.
@Jonas Actually there is some discussion, but nothing so far in mainstream media. Also a funny thing, there was someone at the stadium close to the microphone who shouted to referee that he whistled before handball so everyone heard it on tv.
@Philipp S I dont know if they have sound available in VAR room. :/
2. Bundesliga play-off 2nd leg today (first leg 2-0 Nürnberg) 18:15 FC Ingolstadt - 1.FC Nürnberg Christian Dingert - Benedikt Kempkes, Timo Gerach - Alexander Sather [Tobias Reichel, Michael Emmer]
Media coverage in Germany about Spanish refereeing: Real Madrid are on the brink of their first championship since 2017, partly due to conspicuous decisions by the video referee, which have been accumulating lately. Real's opponents smell a conspiracy. Real Madrid have played eight games in the Primera División since the Corona break. Real has won all eight of them, six of them also because of debatable decisions. There were ten situations that took place in the grey zone, so they can be interpreted in both directions. Ten were decided in favour of Reals, zero against Real. Can this still be a coincidence? Spain has been debating this at least since Josep Maria Bartomeu, president of rival FC Barcelona, complained after the seventh game: "The VAR always favours the same team." If the technology was initially well received after its introduction last season, most Spaniards are now feeling the same with the VAR as with the coronavirus due to unclear criteria, lengthy interruptions and debatable decisions also on other fields: they just want to get rid of it.
Spain's referees are so severely thrashed that their boss Carlos Velasco Carballo even felt compelled to make a linguistic guest appearance in Madrid's "As" to refute the suspicion of a translation error from the English Laws. Five points from their last three games are still missing for the title, but outside the realm of Real and the media favouring them, few would confine themselves to the solid defence, the regained competitive edge, the rotations of coach Zinédine Zidane and the better performances in the duels with Barcelona.
Admittedly, captain Sergio Ramos, on behalf of the team, says: "We're not going to win this league because of the referees." But even in the club's own Marca, a columnist ironized in the face of persistent assurances from the Real family that there was no refereeing issue at all: "The most important characteristic of the decisions in Real Madrid's favour is that they do not exist." In detail, the following cases are concerned:
28th matchday, the first after the Corona break: Real - Eibar. Before the 1-0 by Kroos, referee and VAR overlook an offside position of passing player Benzema. Final score 3-1.
29th matchday: Real - Valencia. At the score of 0-0 the referee cancels a goal of Valencias Rodrigo after a long video study, because a teammate is offside. Final score 3-0.
Matchday 30: Real Sociedad - Real. The referee gives a penalty kick for the 0-1 because of minimal contact between Llorente and Madrid's Vinícius. The VAR confirms it. Sociedad's supposed equaliser by Januzaj is cancelled by the VAR because of passive offside by Merino. Before Real's second goal Benzema controls the ball in the border area between shoulder and upper arm, the goal is valid. Final score: 1-2.
Matchday 31: Real - Mallorca. Carvajal conquers the ball with a foul before Real's leading goal by Vinícius. The goal counts. Final score 2-0.
Matchday 33: Real - Getafe. At the score of 0-0 Getafe's Olivera claims a penalty after a foul by Carvajal. No penalty kick. In the second half Olivera then fouls Carvajal. Penalty kick, Ramos scores. Final score, 1-0.
34th matchday: Athletic Bilbao - Real. Bilbao's Garcia steps on Marcelo's foot. The VAR intervenes, penalty kick is awarded, Ramos scores. Shortly afterwards Ramos steps on García's foot. The VAR does not intervene. Final score 0-1.
Even league leader Javier Tebas recently admitted: "The VAR makes glaring errors." There are several theories about the origin of this deterioration. One cites the complaint by Real's club director Emilio Butragueño after the Clásico in Barcelona last December (0-0) that the VAR missed two "crystal-clear penalties" for his team.
Tebas, for his part, is fond of mentioning a phone call from Real president Florentino Pérez to association boss Luis Rubiales last season, in which Pérez also complained about the VAR's failure to make corrections. This phone call marked "a before and after", said the league boss, the influence was "not conducive to the refereeing", which is under the control of the association: "It probably led to greater tension among the referees.
And ex-Fifa referee Eduardo Iturralde González said during the Corona break: "90% of the referees are Real fans, 10% Barcelona fans."
The supposedly systemic preference for Real is an integral part of Spanish football folklore. "Así, así, así gana el Madrí" - this is how Madrid comes to its victories - has been sung by opposing fans for decades, when once again a controversial decision favours the capital's club. There is no scream from the corner at the moment; for some observers another reason why the empty stands were accompanied by increasingly selective whistles.
In Barcelona, on the other hand, old discourses of victims have long since been revived. "One day we were shown that we have to do much more, otherwise it won't be enough for us," ex-club professional Dani Alves wrote in the social networks.
Yet Barça is not usually one of the underprivileged. But this season the statistics are surprising. Barcelona, for example, received fewer penalties in their favour (six) than against themselves (seven) - unusual for a team that has more possession and attacks more frequently than their opponents. The score for Madrid is 9-2.
On this evening, Real would like to take the next step towards their first championship since 2017 against Alavés. On the whistle: Jesús Gil Manzano - the man responsible for the controversial handling of the video evidence in Bilbao on Sunday. A thankless starting point for the Fifa referee, especially since he is not very popular with Real's opponents anyway - since he was seen walking out of the stadium in Villarreal with a Real gift bag after an away game of Madrid a few years ago.
(translated from https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/real-madrid-und-der-var-wird-der-klub-in-der-primera-division-vom-videoschiedsrichter-bevorzugt-a-345a8107-e53f-4a2f-bde3-320392ce732c )
It is interesting sequence of decisions that go in favour of Real Madrid.
Good thing in this story is that the most of them are at least supportable. For me only blatant mistake was Carvajal foul before the 1st goal vs Mallorca, but the referee had a perfect view and in that situation it is difficult to change his perception.
Before VAR, Barca and most team complained that refs are making decisions in favor of Real Madrid.
And now with VAR,where you have apsolute proof on referees decisions they are saying exactly the same thing.
So looks like you cant make them happy either way.
Even Diego Simeone who hates Real said that there is no oroblem with VAR and referees, that it's logical that Real gets most penalties because they attack most of the time and that all this talk about VAR is nonsense.
So looks like they have a complex problem against Real, they cant stand their success and btw Barca needs to blame noone but themselves because they didnt play weel enough after corona break.
Interesting situation in Romanian 2nd division (Petrolul vs Rapid Bucharest). Rapid GK saves 2 penalties but is sent off for 2 yellow cards, because each time he stepped in front of the goal line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3adcr5-LQA
In the end Petrolul missed again the 3rd time, shooting over the crossbar.
We have a lot of sports here in Australia and I have many friends who don't follow football and prefer other sports and this situation here is why. The referee and assistant very bravely and correctly made the right decision but the reaction of the players towards the referees for making the correct decision and following the laws of the game is ridiculous. This is one of the main reasons my friends say they will never follow football, because of scenes like this.
The ref should have already sent off the GK after the retake call because of the total animalistic dissents. The goalkeeper acted totally out of control and shamefully but got away with it. The other players too. The decisions by the AR are correct and it's very clear on replay. But this is what makes the sport entertaining. When chaos happens.
Showing those replays on the big screen in the stadium would help convince the players (who did not see any video evidence) that the decisions were correct.
The video evidence shows blatant encroachment by the goalkeeper on both situations. Are you expecting the referees to ignore the laws and close their eyes to such clear and obvious situations?
Your thoughts on two penalties for handball in Juventus-Atalanta?
For me rather debatable! 1st one I would even say is mistake, really small distance and as far as I can see, the ball hits the right hand which is completely adjacent to body.
2nd pk is supportable, but given the circumstance that it was close distance and unexpected change of direction, and not a shot towards goal, I think it is a bit harsh.
Close distance and unexpected ball are not considered anymore in Italy for handballs if arm is an open position and it increases body's volume, in all cases ALWAYS penalty. This also to find consistency. In the first case, the ball hits the left arm, that is a bit open, wouldn't have been penalty if ball had hit the other arm. However, it is clear that such situations until a few seasons ago were never whistled...
Ok, thank you. I heard commentators talking about the "new rules regarding handball" and if they make sense or not.
At least the referee didnt make mistakes if that is the rule.
IMO if you whistle for every hand, you wont get fair situation regardless of consistency. For me it makes sense to set those rules when the ball goes towards goal, but not for crosses or other situations. And with VAR there shouldnt be a problem to follow those. This seems a bit like they have only 4 referees and no VAR so they want to make their life easier...
16:00 FK Tukums 2000/TSS - Riga FC Kristaps Ratnieks - Aleksejs Spasjonņikovs, Artūrs Šakurovs - Andris Treimanis (FIFA, UEFA 1st cat.) /Sergejs Braga - Konstantīns Rubīns (Latvian Football Federation (LFF) Safety and fair play specialist)/
18:00 FK Metta - RFS Aleksandrs Anufrijevs (FIFA, UEFA 3rd cat., LFF Secretary General bureau Referee branch specialist) - Jevgēnijs Morozovs, Arnis Lemkins - Mareks Ķere /Vadims Direktorenko (UEFA, if I am not wrong) - Viktors Sopirins (LFF Commercial department Project branch Project Manager/
Monday 13th July
18:00 BFC Daugavpils - FK Ventspils Andris Treimanis (FIFA, UEFA 1st cat.) - ?, Aleksejs Griščenko - Ivars Caune /Kiazo Leladze - Maksims Raspopovs (Head of LFF Commercial department)/
19:00 FK Jelgava - Valmiera FC Vitālijs Spasjonņikovs - Andrejs Kolosovs, Eduards Borisevičs - Aleksandrs Golubevs (FIFA, UEFA 3rd cat.) /Jānis Pukijāns - ?/
The match FK Liepāja - FK Spartaks, which was scheduled for today, has been postponed for a currently unknown period of time for 'preventive safety reasons' after 3 FK Spartaks staff members contracted Covid-19. (The postponement decision was made yesterday.)
Due to relatively many people from the Latvian football society contracting Covid-19 in the recent days (5 cases), all Latvian Higher League club players and staff members are being tested for the new coronavirus. So far 7 clubs' members have been tested - all results negative. The last 3 clubs' people will be tested until Tuesday. In addition, all the league's match officials, referee observers and delegates are also being tested with an aim to finish the testing till the beginning of the next (8th) matchday (16th July).
BIG Game (hot match) to João Pinheiro (2nd UEFA): FC Porto x Sporting CP - The 1st place decission between FC Porto (1st) and SL Benfica (2nd). Sporting CP is in 3rd place.
All nominations in Portugal:
Monday 13th July
20:00 Marítimo M.-Rio Ave FC Cláudio Pereira - Álvaro Mesquita, Bruno Trindade - Anzhony Rodrigues [Manuel Oliveira, Tiago Leandro]
22:15 Vitória FC-FC Famalicão Hélder Malheiro - Rui Cidade, José Luzia - João Malheiro Pinto [Rui Costa, João Bessa Silva]
Tuesday 14th July
18:00 CD Santa Clara-CD Aves Gustavo Correia - Rui Licínio, Inácio Pereira - João Gonçalves [Carlos Xistra, Marco Vieira]
20:15 Portimonense SC-Boavista FC Manuel Mota - Jorge Fernandes, Paulo Miranda - Miguel Nogueira [Tiago Martins, Pedro Mota]
22:30 Gil Vicente FC-CD Tondela Jorge Sousa - Nuno Manso, Sérgio Jesus - Luís Máximo [Rui Oliveira, Nélson Cunha]
22:30 SL Benfica-Vitória SC Hugo Miguel - Bruno Jesus, António Godinho - António Nobre [Luís Godinho, Valter Rufo]
Wednesday 15th July
18:00 Moreirense FC-FC Paços de Ferreira Rui Costa - Tiago Costa, João Bessa Silva - Dinis Gorjão [Vítor Ferreira, Pedro Fernandes]
20:15 SC Braga-Belenenses SAD André Narciso - Paulo Brás, Carlos Covão - David Silva [João Bento, André Campos]
22:30 FC Porto-Sporting CP João Pinheiro - Bruno Rodrigues, Luciano Maia - Iancu Vasilica [Artur Soares Dias, Paulo Soares]
SFV and FFF have a ref exchange program. Makes sense to give Turpin a real game instead of Friendly's to gain form. Usually this exchange doesn't make sense for him
"Usually this exchange doesn't make sense for him" What do you mean? Turpin too good for officiating in Swiss league? This would be very insulting for Switzerland.
@Anonymous RikB answers tells a lot. There isn't any thing which under non Corona circumstances Turpin could profit. Makes more sense to send a young ref
Marius Hansen Grøtta, promoted before this season to Eliteserien, hasn't had the best of starts to his top flight career.
Game 1: Wrong penalty Game 2: Missed RC (SFP) Game 3: Wrong RC (very clear genuine attempt to play the ball - DOGSO).
And it All culminated yesterday, with a very poor performance in Mjøndalen-Vålerenga. He was very insecure and hesitant, and only gave a clear red card to Vålerenga's keeper for handling inside the box following advice from AR1 (Bashevkin) or 4th (Børresen).
After this red card, Mjøndalen took full control of the game, which Vålerenga was leading 0-1, and constantly tried to overpower Vålerenga in the box with their bigger and stronger players. Vålerenga realised that the only way to survive the pressure was to go for fouls, and on 3 occasions Mjøndalen had goals disallowed by referee Grøtta for very soft or inexistent fouls where Vålerenga players threw themselves down. Plus 3-4 more occasions of soft or wrong whistles in the box. The worst incident was when Vålerenga's keeper collides with his own player in the box, goes down, gets back up again when he sees he's out of position, at the same time a Mjøndalen player shoots the ball into the goal, but Grøtta whistles just when the ball is entering the goal. The goalkeeper was obviously not injured.
This has caused major reactions in Norwegian football, former referee Edvartsen has publicly stated that Grøtta is not good enough for this level of football, and (former) lower level players from Grøtta's area have spoken out and said that they can't understand why Grøtta has reached this level: He was a poor referee already at those levels, but was pushed through the system because of his excellent fitness (he's a PE teacher).
Time will show when Grøtta will be seen in Eliteserien again, it would probably be best to give him some 2nd level games to regain confidence first.
Interesting. My first idea was, that it should be a defensive FK, because the blue player steps onto his opponents foot. But the orange player actually sticks his leg out and doesn't continue running towards the ball. Therefore can also be seen as tripping by the defender. So both decisions are supportable IMO and it's up to the referee's interpretation.
I watched the situation (referee Gorka Sagués Oscoz, 1980)
Joke penalty if you ask me. It's ZAR26 who actually steps on OVI12. Unacceptable from VAR not to have intervened, Sagués Oscoz was lucky that score was 1-4 and it was the very last minute.
18:30 Eibar - Valladolid César Soto Grado - Alfonso Costoya Rodríguez, Carlos Álvarez Fernández - Enrique Gao Aladro [Mario Melero López, José Luis Martínez Serrato]
21:00 Athletic Club - Leganés Juan Martínez Munuera - Diego Barbero Sevilla, Juan José López Mir - Carlos Pérez Fernández [Jesús Gil Manzano, Ángel Nevado Rodríguez]
21:00 Barcelona - Osasuna José María Sánchez Martínez - José Gallego García, Javier Martínez Nicolás - Carlos Alberto Carbonell Hernández [José Luis González González, Manuel Ángel Torre Cimiano]
21:00 Betis - Alavés David Medié Jiménez - Juan Carlos Barranco Trejo, Joan Méndez Mateo - Fernando Bueno Prieto [Guillermo Cuadra Fernández, Teodoro Sobrino Magán]
21:00 Celta de Vigo - Levante José Luis Munuera Montero - Iñigo Prieto López de Ceráin, Alfonso Baena Espejo - Pedro Eugenio Muñoz Piedra [Adrián Cordero Vega, Marcos Cerdán Aguilar]
21:00 Getafe - Atlético de Madrid Antonio Mateu Lahoz - Pau Cebrián Devís, Iker de Francisco Grijalba - Abraham Domínguez Cervantes [Ignacio Iglesias Villanueva, Jon Núñez Fernández]
21:00 Real Madrid - Villarreal Alejandro Hernández Hernández - José Enrique Naranjo Pérez, José Alcoba Rodríguez - Sergio del Río Lozano [Pablo González Fuertes, Alfredo Rodríguez Moreno]
21:00 Real Sociedad - Sevilla Carlos del Cerro Grande - Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez, Abraham Álvarez Cantón - Sergio Usón Rosel [Santiago Jaime Latre, Jorge Bueno Mateo]
21:00 Valencia - Espanyol Eduardo Prieto Iglesias - Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar, Aitor Villate Martínez - David Cambronero González [Valentín Pizarro Gómez, Gonzalo García González]
ITALY SERIE A ATALANTA – BRESCIA 14/07 h. 21.45 MANGANIELLO Gianluca IV: MAGGIONI Lorenzo VAR: PASQUA Fabrizio BOLOGNA – NAPOLI 15/07 h. 19.30 PICCININI Marco IV: RAPUANO Antonio VAR: CALVARESE Gianpaolo MILAN – PARMA 15/07 h. 19.30 IRRATI Massimiliano IV: GIACOMELLI Piero VAR: NASCA Luigi SAMPDORIA – CAGLIARI 15/07 h. 19.30 PAIRETTO Luca IV: MARINELLI Livio VAR: DI PAOLO LECCE – FIORENTINA 15/07 h. 21.45 GUIDA Marco IV: DI MARTINO Antonio VAR: LA PENNA Federico ROMA – H. VERONA 15/07 h. 21.45 MARESCA Fabio IV: DIONISI Federico VAR: DI BELLO Marco SASSUOLO – JUVENTUS 15/07 h. 21.45 VALERI Paolo IV: SACCHI Juan Luca VAR: CHIFFI Daniele UDINESE – LAZIO 15/07 h. 21.45 ABISSO Rosario IV: SERRA Marco VAR: MASSA Davide
Mark Clattenburg and Peter Frojdfeld are the two candidates to replace Melo Pereira. The new Head of Greek refereeing will be selected on Friday by a vote.
According to the info, there will be a few promotions/demotions. It is said that only 2 of the SL referees will leave the list. There are 7-8 candidates (3 FIFA referees).
The decision will come from the current referee's committee (Pereira, Marin, Lindberg).
Pereira should have left last year but his contract was renewed by UEFA's intervention. HFF said that he would stay for another year. Due to the Corona pandemic his contract will end on 30 July 2020.
It is said that the new Head of Refereeing will choose his colleagues (one of them will be a VAR expert). Lindberg will definitely leave. Marin has some chances of staying but I find it difficult.
Koukoulakis (VAR expert) will also leave. It is said that he is going to Cyprus. The big ? is Tritsonis. HFF favors him but honestly education of referees here is too weak.
20:00 Ibiza-Eivissa - UE Cornellá Fernando Román Román (1988) - Javier Garrido Concha, Eliana Fernández Fernández - Germán Cid Camacho
20:00 Athletic B - CD Badajoz Alonso de Ena Wolf (1992) - Francisco Mur Oto, Juan José Ballesteros Rubio - Marcos Latorre Gracia
22:00 Castellón - UD Logroñés (match for direct promotion!) David Gálvez Rascón (1981) - Yuval Conde Pérez, Mario Martín-Consuegra Díaz - Manuel Ángel Pérez Hernández
22:00 Marbella - Peña Deportiva Julio Fermín Leo Ollo (1979) - Ángel David Domínguez Zapatero, Cristian Vázquez Martínez - Alberto Gómez Lameiro
19th July
20:00 Barcelona B - Valladolid B José Luis Guzmán Mansilla (1995) - José Francisco García Lozano, Ángel Valverde Martínez - José Antonio Sánchez Villalobos
20:00 CE Sabadell - Atlético de Madrid B Mateo Busquets Ferrer (1994) - Josep Bordoy Homar, Víctor Jiménez Yustos - Luis Bestard Servera
22:00 Cartagena - Atlético Baleares (match for direct promotion!) Francisco José Hernández Maeso (1988) - Álvaro González Narváez, Álvaro Granel Peiró - Manuel García Gómez
22:00 Cultural Leonesa - Yeclano Víctor García Verdura (1994) - Sergi López Freixa, Mariona Peralta Geis - Albert Catalá Ferrán
Referees in Spain are promoted to 2ªB (3rd category) quite early, actually there's an age limit of 30 to be promoted. The idea of CTA-RFEF is that talented referees are pushed from regional categories and promoted quite young, to spend some years developing on a semi-professional level. E.g. the 4 promoted referees last year to Segunda spent 10, 8, 8 and 5 years in 2ªB, while 2 of them were born in 1990 or later.
The process to select referees to promote to 2ªB is known as 'Talents and Mentors' program and is directed by former FIFA referee Antonio Rubinos Pérez. In this process, each regional federation of Spain selects in March four under-30 referees (6 in the case of Andalusia). From March to May, each referee is appointed for two games on its local league in which he will be observed by a professional CTA observer, whose reports will be decisive to eliminate 1 of the 4 pre-selected referees.
The 3 referees by region having passed to the next phase go to Madrid and do physical tests and technical tests (LOTG test, RFEF regulations test, match reports writing test, English test and psychologic test) in which they get points based on their marks.
Finally, the referees are appointed for one or two Tercera to 2ªB promotion matches, observed by CTA-RFEF national observers directly appointed from Madrid, whose report and mark of the game will be decisive, because the 20 best referees (nationally) based on the sum of the marks of observers' reports and Madrid physical and technical tests are promoted to 2ªB category.
Due to Covid-19 and cancellation of the rest of regular season, this season CTA-RFEF and regional federation had to 'skip' the March-May matches and reports phase and the eliminated referee from each region came from physical and technical tests.
Oh my... Technically there was only one disallowed goal because in the 2nd and the 3rd situation the whistle was before the goal.
My general opinion is that this guy was lost and lacks basic talent to officiate the game. The 3 situations are completely different: The first and the second situation are managed ok, especially the 2nd in which i would praise his fast reaction. Whether it was a foul or not is a different question, for me it seems maybe there was pulling hand in the first situation, but I dont know. Seems harsh definitely.
The RC and the third situation are just a complete mess!!! Terrible management, and in the last situation unexplainably bad timing and positioning (he almost blocked the shot) and strange gesture at first like he was telling the gk to get up (?). He had a good moment to stop the game, but he missed it and then caused a chaos. 7.6 at most IMO
To reply to Anonymous - no, actually I have been even really impressed with the quality of the officiating.
Crucial mistakes that I assign should more be viewed as 'there are no grounds to support this decision in 2020' as opposed to anything else. I hope in the reports I successfully stress the 'nature' of the crucial mistakes, and how trivial or otherwise they would have been eighteen years ago.
I would stress that people should focus on the report and not just the mark!
Yes, I have read the reports and watched highlights, after having watched the games back in 2002, that's why I asked about so many 7,9 marks and that is even before Moreno's and Al-Ghandour "shows" in the KO stage!!!
By the way, why are you writing the marks as "7.9(4)" instead of "7.9(8.4)", as they show in the marking scale?
How do you see the WC2002 separate selection of the best referees and the best ARs, as opposed to the "trio" selection introduced in 2006 and currently still in place?
Forgive the somewhat shameless plug but if you are interested to see Vítor Melo Pereira, in the news as Edward reported, referee at World Cup 2002: his Denmark - France game will be up on my blog by the end of the evening :).
Thanks for the info, so it seems as UEFA is sending invitation letters to all participants for both Champions League and Europa League final stages. We could draw the first conclusion that CL referees wont be appointed in EL and we will have maybe two separate groups.
My guess is that in Champions League we will see only those referees who officiated regularly in the past months, and those who did not eventualy in Europa League. My guess for CL: Lahoz, Marciniak, Taylor and Orsato in QF (those four are candidates for the final), Brcyh and Cakir for semi finals. In EL I expect: Makkelie, Turpin, Del Cerro, Olover (candidates for the final), Hategan/Skomina/Kuipers for semi finals.
Since many days I was thinking about the opportunity to gather a small number of referees in Portugal and in Germany respectively for Cl and El to manage final stage, like it happens for Euro Cup or FIFA world cup. I had in mind that this possibility was cancelled due to COVID rules which deny to collect many people together, but I like it so much. I think that referees can work together in the same rooms and field and prepare carefully final phase, like it happens at FIFA world cup. Good choice. I would expect 10-12 referees considering central referee, IV official and VAR and 12 assistant referees, 8 on the field and 4 as AVAR. For CL I would choose: DANNY MAKKELIE BJORN KUIPERS DANIELE ORSATO MASSIMILIANO IRRATI FELIX BRYCH DAMIR SKOMINA CUYNET CAKIR ANTONIO MATEU LAHOZ ARTUR SOARES DIAS TOBIAS STIELER
I would select the following teams for quarterfinal: Orsato (IV Soares Dias VAR Irrati), Makkelie (IV Mateu Lahoz VAR Kuipers), Skomina (IV Soares Dias VAR Cakir) Brych (IV Mateu lahoz VAR Stieler) keeping Kuipers and Cakir for semifinal and Mateu lahoz for final hoping that he could have this opportunity without Spanish teams in the final
For EL I would choose: CLEMENT TURPIN MICHAEL OLIVER ANTHONY TAYLOR SZYMON MARCINIAK OVIDIU HATEGAN CARLOS DEL CERRO GRANDE FELIX ZWAYER DENITZ AYTEKIN DANIEL SEIBERT SASCHA STAGEMANN I would select the following teams for quarterfinal: Oliver (IV Siebert VAR Turpin), Taylor (IV Aytekin VAR Marciniak), Zwayer (IV Siebert VAR Stagemann) Del Cerro Grande (IV Aytekin VAR Hategan) keeping Marciniak and Hategan for semifinal and Turpin
Interesting LotG question: A corner kick directly hits the referee and rebounds back to the corner flag, where the player, who took the corner, plays the ball again. Decision?
I would stop play and restart with a dropped ball. At least the defending team will have time to reorganize and position their players nearer to the corner flag where the play will restarts.
Yes, indirect free kick should be correct, although the intuitive decision is dropped ball. But there is no change of possession, so the conditions for the dropped ball are not fulfilled and it remains the double contact by the corner taker. DFB has answered that question and confirmed it is a indirect free kick.
BTW, it should be the same for a goal kick: If the goal kick hits the referee and returns towards goal, the goalkeeper should not stop it. If he touches the ball, it's indirect free kick - if he lets it pass and it goes into the goal, the game continues with a dropped ball.
Last night at the AEK-PAOK match the FO (Diamantopoulos) found out that 12 players of PAOK were ineligible to play because their health cards had expired. The referee decided to start the match despite the Greek regulations said otherwise.
AEK has the right to object to the match and win it.
According to the regulations if the referee starts the match he can be suspended for at least 3 months.
That makes little sense. Doesn’t Greece have Match Commissioners / FA Delegates who are, comparable to UEFA matches, responsible for matters like these?
I agree with Anonymus. Match delegates are responsible for matters like that. Furthermore, I somehow doubt that Makkelie would come in another country and make decision like that on his own. I am sure there must be something we dont know behind this story...
According to the Greek regulations that referee is solely at fault if he starts a match that shouldn't. At that spesific case a match can't start with so many expired health cards. PAOK had 18 players listed. That means that they only had 6 eligible players. A match cannot start with less than 9 players.
Then Greek regulations are quite remarkable... A match not allowed to start with less than 9 players, where the LOTG require a minimum of 7 to start or continue a match.
Furthermore, in UEFA matches (with UEFA Delegates being appointed), it’s not the referee who is ultimately responsible for allowing the match to start when it concerns matters related to the regulations (contrary to matters related to the LOTG), but the UEFA Delegate.
I can hardly imagine this case has any negative consequences for Makkelie, and if so, he’ll be out for Greek competition appointments for three months :)
Beneath a link to a Greek article about yesterday’s issue. Apparently before yesterday’s match PAOK already played two matches (against Panathinaikos and Olympiakos) without the required valid medical certificates. As the Greek FA didn’t intervene in any way (referees before as well as, afterwards, the FA itself) they apparently allow the absence of valid certificates...?
@Anonymous 15:43: could you prove what you said by posting a link to any UEFA document indicating that the match delegate is responsible, not the referee, for issues related to players' eligibility in UEFA competitions?
@Anonymus 19:01 Well that is even more interesting. I was always convinced that it was a responsibility of delegate... @Anonymus 18:15 Why would referrr be responsible for this? This has nothing with referee, id anyone then delegate because he is the one who should check if administrative things are ok. Referee is responsible for implementing the Laws of the game. Correct me if I am wrong but there is no a single sentence in the LOTG that sais that referee is responsible for health cards, this is something ruled by each federation (in Croatia delegate is responsible for health cards, referee only in case that delegate is not appointed or did not come to the match).
All in all, UEFAs solution that referees and delegates are not responsible but clubs is probably the best one.
In my country, the referee must check before each game the players' books with respect to the annual registration and the health cards. If either of these are missing or expired, the referee must make a note in the match report and inform the team that the respective player is not eligible.
Not in UEFA, but certainly in some domestic competitions, especially in Eastern and Central Europe. As you could see in other comments, it is not the same in every country. Do not assume that everyone has the same rules and regulations.
Referees for Final 8 of CL in Lisboa in my view: Kuipers, Cakir, Orsato, Skomina, Lahoz, Brych, Taylor, Marciniak. Biggest chances if Spanish team advance to final have Orsato/Taylor. If Spanish no in final, Lahoz. For final 8 in Germany, EL i predict: Hategan, Oliver, Del Cerro, Collum, Soares Dias, Zwayer, Turpin, Makiellie. Instead of Greek situation, I think that main candidate for EL final here is Danny.
Who is referee in friendly Lyon Rangers? Very harsh RC decision, not because it is a friendly, but because of the context. Not a violent conduct to me.
Latest games from World Cup 2002, actually all handled by current UEFA Referee Observers. Wegereef (12 x YCs) and López Nieto (14 x YCs; 2 x SYCs) both set a new record for the number of cards issued in a World Cup game on the same day.
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17:00 Osasuna - Celta de Vigo
Valentín Pizarro Gómez - Gonzalo García González, José Antonio Garrido Romero - Ekaitz García Arriola
[Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea, Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar]
19:30 Valladolid - Barcelona
Antonio Mateu Lahoz - Pau Cebrián Devís, Iker de Francisco Grijalba - David Iglesias Gutiérrez
[Juan Martínez Munuera, Diego Barbero Sevilla]
22:00 Atlético de Madrid - Betis
José Luis González González - Rubén Becerril Gómez, Diego Sánchez Rojo - Rubén Eiriz Mata
[Xavier Estrada Fernández, Guadalupe Porras Ayuso]
Sunday 12th June
14:00 Espanyol - Eibar
Carlos del Cerro Grande - Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez, Abraham Álvarez Cantón - Miguel García Aceña
[José María Sánchez Martínez, Guadalupe Porras Ayuso]
17:00 Levante - Athletic
Javier Alberola Rojas - Iván Hernández Ramos, Marcos Cerdán Aguilar - Víctor García Verdura
[Alfonso Álvarez Izquierdo, Alfonso Baena Espejo]
19:30 Leganés - Valencia
Mario Melero López - Manuel Ángel Torre Cimiano, José Luis Martínez Serrato - Francisco Sáez Vital
[José Luis Munuera Montero, Íñigo Prieto López de Ceráin]
22:00 Sevilla - Mallorca
Adrián Cordero Vega - José Carlos Escuela Melo, Antonio Luis Cerezo Parfenof - Francisco José Hernández Maeso
[Alejandro Hernández Hernández, Javier Martínez Nicolás]
Monday 13th July
19:30 Alavés - Getafe
Pablo González Fuertes - Alfredo Rodríguez Moreno, Álvaro Yeray Carreño Cabrera - Carlos Fernández Buergo
[Eduardo Prieto Iglesias, Javier Martínez Nicolás]
19:30 Villarreal - Real Sociedad
Guillermo Cuadra Fernández - Teodoro Sobrino Magán, Juan José López Mir - Alejandro Sánchez Alba
[César Soto Grado, Alfonso Costoya Rodríguez]
22:00 Granada - Real Madrid
Santiago Jaime Latre - Jorge Bueno Mateo, Fernando Tresaco Escabosa - Juan Antonio Campos Salinas
[David Medié Jiménez, Juan Carlos Barranco Trejo]
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ReplyDeleteSaturday 11th July
13:30 Norwich City - West Ham United
Kevin Friend - Simon Beck, Peter Kirkup - Andy Woolmer
[Simon Hooper, Mark Scholes]
13:30 Watford - Newcastle United
Craig Pawson - Stuart Burt, Daniel Robathan - Dean Whitestone
[Stuart Attwell, Andrew Garratt]
16:00 Liverpool - Burnley
David Coote - Marc Perry, Nick Hopton - Martin Atkinson
[Christopher Kavanagh, Adrian Holmes]
18:30 Sheffield United - Chelsea
Andre Marriner - Richard West, Darren Cann - Lee Mason
[Andrew Madley, Ian Hussin]
21:00 Brighton & Hove Albion - Manchester City
Graham Scott - Edward Smart, Derek Eaton - James Linington
[Peter Bankes, Stephen Child]
Sunday 12th July
13:00 Wolverhampton Wanderers - Everton
Anthony Taylor - Gary Beswick, Adam Nunn - Kevin Friend
[Andre Marriner, Sian Massey-Ellis]
15:15 Aston Villa - Crystal Palace
Martin Atkinson - Lee Betts, Constantine Hatzidakis - Peter Bankes
[Jonathan Moss, Peter Kirkup]
17:30 Tottenham Hotspur - Arsenal
Michael Oliver - Simon Bennett, Daniel Cook - Graham Scott
[Paul Tierney, Harry Lennard]
20:00 Bournemouth - Leicester City
Stuart Attwell - Simon Long, Neil Davies - Simon Hooper
[Craig Pawson, Stephen Child]
Monday 13th July
21:00 Manchester United - Southampton
Christopher Kavanagh - Sian Massey-Ellis, Scott Ledger - Anthony Taylor
[Lee Mason, Marc Perry]
Tuesday 14th July
21:15 Chelsea - Norwich City
Jonathan Moss - Marc Perry, Edward Smart - Tim Robinson
[Martin Atkinson, Stephen Child]
Wednesday 15th July
19:00 Burnley - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Michael Dean - Darren Cann, Mark Scholes - Matthew Donohue
[Kevin Friend, Simon Beck]
19:00 Manchester City - Bournemouth
Lee Mason - Richard West, Adrian Holmes - Robert Jones
[Simon Hooper, Derek Eaton]
19:00 Newcastle United - Tottenham Hotspur
David Coote - Ian Hussin, Nick Hopton - Martin Atkinson
[Peter Bankes, Lee Betts]
21:15 Arsenal - Liverpool
Paul Tierney - Daniel Cook, Simon Long - Graham Scott
[Craig Pawson, Stephen Child]
Thursday 16th July
19:00 Everton - Aston Villa
Anthony Taylor - Gary Beswick, Adam Nunn - Darren England
[Christopher Kavanagh, Daniel Cook]
19:00 Leicester City - Sheffield United
Michael Oliver - Stuart Burt, Simon Bennett - Peter Bankes
[Paul Tierney, Constantine Hatzidakis]
21:15 Crystal Palace - Manchester United
Graham Scott - Harry Lennard, Derek Eaton - Keith Stroud
[Simon Hooper, Andrew Garratt]
21:15 Southampton - Brighton & Hove Albion
Andre Marriner - Sian Massey-Ellis, Neil Davies - John Brooks
[Andrew Madley, Peter Kirkup]
CROATIA
ReplyDeleteFriday 10th July
20:00 Gorica - Varaždin
Ivan Župan - Tomislav Keglević, Ivan Janić - Ivana Martinčić
[Ivan Vučković, Igor Krmar]
Saturday 11th July
18:55 Inter Zaprešić - Rijeka
Ivan Vučković - Ivica Modrić, Anto Marić - Ante Čuljak
[Mario Zebec, Borut Križarić]
21:05 Osijek - Istra Pula
Marko Matoc - Jerko Crnčić, Marko Stolnik - Josip Lučić
[Duje Strukan, Goran Perica]
Sunday 12th July
18:55 Slaven Belupo Koprivnica - Lokomotiva Zagreb
Marin Vidulin - Robi Kezele, Luka Pajić - Tino Krečak
[Duje Strukan, Goran Perica]
21:05 Dinamo Zagreb - Hajduk Split
Ivan Bebek - Bojan Zobenica, Vedran Đurak - Dario Bel
[Tihomir Pejin, Tomislav Petrović]
GREECE
ReplyDeleteSaturday 11th July
18:15 Lamia - Larisa
Athanasios Sezos - Konstantinos Konstantios, Dimitrios Mauroudis - Alexandros Tsamouris
[Efstathios Gortsilas, Ilias Konstantinou]
18:15 Panionios - Panetolikos
Angelos Evangelou - Iordanis Aptosoglou, Michail Karsiotis - Aristomenis Koutsiaftis
[Anastasios Sidiropoulos, Lazaros Dimitriadis]
18:15 Volos - Atromitos Athinon
Georgios Tasis - Spyridon Vasilopoulos, Georgios Stefanis - Georgios Vreskas
[Ioannis Papadopoulos, Nikolaos Savvas]
18:15 Xanthi - Asteras Tripolis
Athanasios Tzilos - Konstantinos Nikolaidis, Dimitrios Natsiopoulos - Dimitrios Karantonis
[Vasilios Fotias, Petros Patras]
20:30 OFI - Aris
Petros Tsangarakis - Ilias Alexeas, Panagiotis Konstantopoulos - Aristidis Vatsios
[Konstantinos Kotsanis, Michail Dimopoulos]
Sunday 12th July
19:00 Panathinaikos - AEK
Aristotelis Diamantopoulos - Tryfonas Petropoulos, Christos Baltas - Praxitelis Zachariadis
[Vasilios Fotias, Konstantinos Triantafyllou]
20:45 Olympiakos - PAOK
Evangelos Manouchos - Rainchard Bouxbaoum, Antonios Karatzikas - Fotios Fotiadis
[Georgios Tzovaras, Dimitrios Samoilis]
POLAND
ReplyDeleteFriday 10th July
18:00 Zagłębie Lubin - Wisła Płock
Piotr Lasyk - Bartłomiej Lekki, Marek Arys - Marek Opaliński
[Jarosław Przybył, Radosław Siejka]
20:30 Górnik Zabrze - Raków Częstochowa
Łukasz Szczech - Tomasz Listkiewicz, Bolesław Rosa - Mateusz Jenda
[Daniel Stefański, Adam Kupsik]
Saturday 11th July
15:00 Arka Gdynia - ŁKS Łódź
Artur Aluszyk - Paweł Sokolnicki, Dariusz Bohonos - Tomasz Marciniak
[Szymon Marciniak, Arkadiusz Kamil Wójcik]
17:30 Legia Warszawa - Cracovia Kraków
Jarosław Przybył - Konrad Sapela, Marcin Borkowski - Grzegorz Kawałko
[Tomasz Musiał, Tomasz Listkiewicz]
20:00 Wisła Kraków - Korona Kielce
Wojciech Myć - Dawid Golis, Michał Pierściński - Paweł Malec
[Tomasz Kwiatkowski, Mariusz Złotek]
Sunday 12th July
12:30 Śląsk Wrocław - Pogoń Szczecin
Paweł Raczkowski - Michał Obukowicz, Damian Rokosz - Sebastian Tarnowski
[Piotr Lasyk, Krzysztof Myrmus]
15:00 Piast Gliwice - Jagiellonia Białystok
Tomasz Kwiatkowski - Adam Kupsik, Tomasz Niemirowski - Tomasz Wajda
[Paweł Gil, Marcin Borkowski]
17:30 Lech Poznań - Lechia Gdańsk
Krzysztof Jakubik - Arkadiusz Kamil Wójcik, Bartosz Kaszyński - Piotr Idzik
[Bartosz Frankowski, Marcin Boniek]
RUSSIA
ReplyDeleteSaturday 11th July
15:00 Arsenal Tula - Tambov
Pavel Kukuyan - Valentin Murashov, Dmitriy Cheltsov - Aleksey Amelin
[Vitaliy Meshkov, Igor Demeshko]
17:30 Akhmat Grozny - Zenit St. Petersburg
Mikhail Vilkov - Nikolay Yeryomin, Andrey Bolotenkov - Lasha Verulidze
[Aleksey Yeskov, Anton Averyanov]
19:30 Sochi - Spartak Moskva
Sergey Ivanov - Aleksey Stipidi, Rustam Mukhtarov - Artyom Lyubimov
[Aleksey Sukhoy, Nikolay Bogach]
Sunday 12th July
15:30 Lokomotiv Moskva - Ufa
Vladislav Bezborodov - Dmitriy Mosyakin, Aleksandr Kudryavtsev - Pavel Shadykhanov
[Vasiliy Kazartsev, Tikhon Kalugin]
17:30 CSKA Moskva - Rubin Kazan
Aleksey Matyunin - Adlan Khatuyev, Ilya Yeleferenko - Roman Galimov
[Yevgeniy Turbin, Aram Petrosyan]
17:30 Dinamo Moskva - Krylya Sovetov Samara
Sergey Karasyov - Dmitriy Safyan, Andrey Gurbanov - Anton Frolov
[Stanislav Vasilyev, Anton Kobzev]
17:30 Orenburg - Rostov
Igor Panin - Yegor Bolkhovitin, Rashid Abusuyev - Anastasiya Pustovoytova
19:30 Krasnodar - Ural Sverdlovskaya oblast
Kirill Levnikov - Valeriy Danchenko, Aleksandr Bogdanov - Yunus Koshko
[Sergey Lapochkin, Konstantin Shalamberidze]
UKRAINE
ReplyDeleteSaturday 11th July
16:00 Kolos Kovalivka - Zorya Luhansk
Maksym Kozyryatskyy - Oleksandr Voytyuk, Dmytro Zaporozhenko - Dmytro Kryvushkin
18:30 Dnipro-1 - Lviv
Viktor Kopiyevskyy - Stanislav Marulin, Oleksandr Dashko - Hennadiy Serputko
Sunday 12th July
16:00 Mariupol - Olimpik Donetsk
Volodymyr Novokhatniy - Denys Serdyuk, Denys Romanov - Oleksandr Shandor
18:30 Desna Chernihiv - Shakhtar Donetsk
Anatoliy Abdula - Maksym Chertolyas, Vitaliy Sukhin - Oleksiy Derevinskyy
18:30 Oleksandriya - Dynamo Kyiv
Vitaliy Romanov - Viktor Matyash, Oleksandr Korniyko - Ihor Paskhal
[Yevhen Aranovskyy, Volodymyr Volodin]
Gil Manzano got injured and had to be replaced at HT of Real Madrid-Alavés game. Replaced by 3rd category referee Héctor Rodríguez Carpallo
ReplyDeleteYou never expect referee to get injured, but I really never understood appointment of third league fourth official. The same with UEFA and non-FIFA referees appointed as fourth official. There is always a slight posibility that fourth official will have to replace referee.
DeleteInteresting situation in Croatian league game Gorica-Varazdin, pk was given after OFR. Referee was young and unexperienced Ivan Zupan.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/cdzle9
The situation has 2 aspects.
1)advantage given but not used, then the ref. whistles the initial foul and after OFR gives a pk for another handball
2)Did he actually whistle and stop the game before the handball in the box? In that case VAR didnt have right to call for OFR. We remember Kulbakov at EURO U21...
I think you‘re right. The game was stopped before the handball incident. Unbelievable error... Did the public notice that or is it only a discussion amongst referees?
DeleteI agree.
DeleteAnother disadvantage of keeping the whistle in your mouth and not in your hand. Otherwise might have seen in the video, when the hand was led towards the mouth.
Do you know, whether the VAR has sound available in Croatia?
IIRC, this wasn't the case in Germany at the beginning and only introduced after a similar incident.
@Jonas
DeleteActually there is some discussion, but nothing so far in mainstream media. Also a funny thing, there was someone at the stadium close to the microphone who shouted to referee that he whistled before handball so everyone heard it on tv.
@Philipp S
I dont know if they have sound available in VAR room. :/
Moldova. Divizia Nationala. MD 3
ReplyDelete11 July
18.00 FLORESTI - PETROCUB Daniel Luca-Vlad Lifciu (FIFA), Anatolie Basiul- Denis Ivlev
20.30 SHERIFF - CODRU Alexandru Stefciuc (debut match DN), Dumitru Ciobanu (FIFA), Denis Oala-Iurie Covtun
Sunday 12 July
Delete18.00 DINAMO AUTO - DACIA BUIUCANI
Dumitru MUNTEAN (FIFA) - Vasili ERMISCHIN (FIFA), Veaceslav SIVACIOV - Stanislaw LEU
20.30. ZIMBRU - SFINTUL GHEORGHE
Igor BOSCA-Andrei BODEAN (FIFA), Vadim VICOL - Andrei BREGUTA
2. Bundesliga play-off 2nd leg today (first leg 2-0 Nürnberg)
ReplyDelete18:15 FC Ingolstadt - 1.FC Nürnberg
Christian Dingert - Benedikt Kempkes, Timo Gerach - Alexander Sather
[Tobias Reichel, Michael Emmer]
Belarus
ReplyDeleteFriday 10th July
18:30 Smolevichi vs. Isloch
Anton Lashuk - Andrei Filippovich, Aleksei Yatskevich - Evgeni Sokolowski
Saturday 11th July
16:30 Belshina vs. Torpedo-BelAZ
Amin Kurgkheli - Andrei Getikov, Viktor Getikov - Dmitri Kovalevski
18:30 BATE vs. Slavia-Mozyr
Sergei Stetsurin - Andrei Gerasimuk, Sergei Kosovets - Valeri Golomzik
20:30 Shakhter vs. Gorodeya
Pavel Koronets - Vladimir Rusak, Aleksandr Vashkevich - Viacheslav Naronski
Sunday 11th July
16:30 RCOR BSU vs. Rukh
Sergei Tsinkevich - Evgeni Romanov, Vitali Maliutin - Sergei S. Lobatsevich
18:30 Dinamo-Minsk vs. Minsk
Denis Scherbakov - Maksim Arabei, Anton Gusev - Vitali Onikhimovski
20:30 Vitebsk vs. Neman
Sergei Gorayutin - Pavel Mazuro, Ivan Spurgiash - Sergei Klimashevski
Media coverage in Germany about Spanish refereeing:
ReplyDeleteReal Madrid are on the brink of their first championship since 2017, partly due to conspicuous decisions by the video referee, which have been accumulating lately. Real's opponents smell a conspiracy.
Real Madrid have played eight games in the Primera División since the Corona break. Real has won all eight of them, six of them also because of debatable decisions.
There were ten situations that took place in the grey zone, so they can be interpreted in both directions. Ten were decided in favour of Reals, zero against Real. Can this still be a coincidence? Spain has been debating this at least since Josep Maria Bartomeu, president of rival FC Barcelona, complained after the seventh game: "The VAR always favours the same team."
If the technology was initially well received after its introduction last season, most Spaniards are now feeling the same with the VAR as with the coronavirus due to unclear criteria, lengthy interruptions and debatable decisions also on other fields: they just want to get rid of it.
Spain's referees are so severely thrashed that their boss Carlos Velasco Carballo even felt compelled to make a linguistic guest appearance in Madrid's "As" to refute the suspicion of a translation error from the English Laws.
Five points from their last three games are still missing for the title, but outside the realm of Real and the media favouring them, few would confine themselves to the solid defence, the regained competitive edge, the rotations of coach Zinédine Zidane and the better performances in the duels with Barcelona.
Admittedly, captain Sergio Ramos, on behalf of the team, says: "We're not going to win this league because of the referees." But even in the club's own Marca, a columnist ironized in the face of persistent assurances from the Real family that there was no refereeing issue at all: "The most important characteristic of the decisions in Real Madrid's favour is that they do not exist."
In detail, the following cases are concerned:
28th matchday, the first after the Corona break: Real - Eibar. Before the 1-0 by Kroos, referee and VAR overlook an offside position of passing player Benzema. Final score 3-1.
29th matchday: Real - Valencia. At the score of 0-0 the referee cancels a goal of Valencias Rodrigo after a long video study, because a teammate is offside. Final score 3-0.
Matchday 30: Real Sociedad - Real. The referee gives a penalty kick for the 0-1 because of minimal contact between Llorente and Madrid's Vinícius. The VAR confirms it. Sociedad's supposed equaliser by Januzaj is cancelled by the VAR because of passive offside by Merino. Before Real's second goal Benzema controls the ball in the border area between shoulder and upper arm, the goal is valid. Final score: 1-2.
Matchday 31: Real - Mallorca. Carvajal conquers the ball with a foul before Real's leading goal by Vinícius. The goal counts. Final score 2-0.
Matchday 33: Real - Getafe. At the score of 0-0 Getafe's Olivera claims a penalty after a foul by Carvajal. No penalty kick. In the second half Olivera then fouls Carvajal. Penalty kick, Ramos scores. Final score, 1-0.
34th matchday: Athletic Bilbao - Real. Bilbao's Garcia steps on Marcelo's foot. The VAR intervenes, penalty kick is awarded, Ramos scores. Shortly afterwards Ramos steps on García's foot. The VAR does not intervene. Final score 0-1.
Even league leader Javier Tebas recently admitted: "The VAR makes glaring errors." There are several theories about the origin of this deterioration. One cites the complaint by Real's club director Emilio Butragueño after the Clásico in Barcelona last December (0-0) that the VAR missed two "crystal-clear penalties" for his team.
DeleteTebas, for his part, is fond of mentioning a phone call from Real president Florentino Pérez to association boss Luis Rubiales last season, in which Pérez also complained about the VAR's failure to make corrections. This phone call marked "a before and after", said the league boss, the influence was "not conducive to the refereeing", which is under the control of the association: "It probably led to greater tension among the referees.
And ex-Fifa referee Eduardo Iturralde González said during the Corona break: "90% of the referees are Real fans, 10% Barcelona fans."
The supposedly systemic preference for Real is an integral part of Spanish football folklore. "Así, así, así gana el Madrí" - this is how Madrid comes to its victories - has been sung by opposing fans for decades, when once again a controversial decision favours the capital's club. There is no scream from the corner at the moment; for some observers another reason why the empty stands were accompanied by increasingly selective whistles.
In Barcelona, on the other hand, old discourses of victims have long since been revived. "One day we were shown that we have to do much more, otherwise it won't be enough for us," ex-club professional Dani Alves wrote in the social networks.
Yet Barça is not usually one of the underprivileged. But this season the statistics are surprising. Barcelona, for example, received fewer penalties in their favour (six) than against themselves (seven) - unusual for a team that has more possession and attacks more frequently than their opponents. The score for Madrid is 9-2.
On this evening, Real would like to take the next step towards their first championship since 2017 against Alavés. On the whistle: Jesús Gil Manzano - the man responsible for the controversial handling of the video evidence in Bilbao on Sunday. A thankless starting point for the Fifa referee, especially since he is not very popular with Real's opponents anyway - since he was seen walking out of the stadium in Villarreal with a Real gift bag after an away game of Madrid a few years ago.
(translated from https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/real-madrid-und-der-var-wird-der-klub-in-der-primera-division-vom-videoschiedsrichter-bevorzugt-a-345a8107-e53f-4a2f-bde3-320392ce732c )
All I have to say is one word:
DeleteTrash.
It is interesting sequence of decisions that go in favour of Real Madrid.
DeleteGood thing in this story is that the most of them are at least supportable. For me only blatant mistake was Carvajal foul before the 1st goal vs Mallorca, but the referee had a perfect view and in that situation it is difficult to change his perception.
Well thats funny.
DeleteBefore VAR, Barca and most team complained that refs are making decisions in favor of Real Madrid.
And now with VAR,where you have apsolute proof on referees decisions they are saying exactly the same thing.
So looks like you cant make them happy either way.
Even Diego Simeone who hates Real said that there is no oroblem with VAR and referees, that it's logical that Real gets most penalties because they attack most of the time and that all this talk about VAR is nonsense.
So looks like they have a complex problem against Real, they cant stand their success and btw Barca needs to blame noone but themselves because they didnt play weel enough after corona break.
Denmark
ReplyDeleteSaturday 11th July
18:00 Randers FC - OB
Jens Maae - Christian Just Brixen, Niels Høg - Sandi Putros
Sunday 12th July
14:00 FC Nordsjælland - AaB
Peter Kjærsgaard - Dennis Wollenberg Rasmussen, Paul Nyberg - Jonas Hansen
18:00 F.C. København - Brøndby IF
Jakob Kehlet - Jesper Dahl, Jakob Mastrup - Jakob Sundberg
20:00 AGF - FC Midtjylland
Mads-Kristoffer Kristoffersen - Ole Kronlykke, Victor Skytte - Michael Tykgaard
Monday 13th July
19:00 Hobro IK - Lyngby BK
? - ?, ? - ?
Today Relegation play-off 1st leg
Delete19:00 Hobro IK - Lyngby BK
Morten Krogh - Daniel Krogstrup Nørgaard, Heine Sørensen - Jørgen Daugbjerg Burchardt
Italy Serie A Round 32
ReplyDeleteSaturday 11 July
17:15 Lazio - Sassuolo
Marco Di Bello - Mauro Galetto - Davide Imperiale - Antonio Di Martino
[Gianluca Aureliano - Salvatore Longo]
19:30 Brescia - Roma
Gianpaolo Calvarese - Rodolfo Di Vuolo - Pasquale De Meo - Lorenzo Maggioni
[Gianluca Manganiello - Fabiano Preti]
21:45 Juventus - Atalanta
Piero Giacomelli - Stefano Del Giovane - Filippo Valeriani - Marco Piccinini
[Massimiliano Irrati - Giorgo Schenone]
NORWAY
ReplyDeleteSaturday 11th July
18:00 Haugesund - Molde
Espen Andreas Eskås - Jan Erik Engan, Anders Olav Dale - Mischa Kellerhals
20:30 Rosenborg - Strømsgodset
Ola Hobber Nilsen - Øystein Simon Ytterland, Runar Langseth - Robert Eggen
Sunday 12th July
18:00 Viking - Odd
Tommy Skjerven - Ivar Michael Bergum Jahr, Christer Solheim Jørgensen - Daniel Higraff
18:00 Aalesund - Bodø/Glimt
Tore Hansen - Eivin Christofer Møllerud Hansen, Jim Andre Alnes Dyb - Bendik Haarberg
18:00 Kristiansund - Stabæk
Mohammad Usman Aslam - Dag Roger Nebben, Jørgen Rønning Valstadsve - Torgeir Halsen
18:00 Mjøndalen - Vålerenga
Marius Hansen Grøtta - Isaak Elias Skjeseth Bashevkin, Ole Andreas Skogsrud Haukåsen - Harald Magnus Børresen
18:00 Sarpsborg 08 - Start
Sivert Øksnes Amland - Geir-Oskar Isaksen, Ivar Askeland - Tom Harald Hagen
20:30 Brann - Sandefjord Fotball
Rohit Saggi - Morten Jensen, Tom Harald Grønevik - Kai Erik Steen
Italy Serie A Round 32
ReplyDeleteSunday 12 July
17:15 Genoa - Spal
Marco Guida - Valentino Fiorito - Dario Cecconi - Daniele Doveri
[Paolo Mazzoleni - Alberto Tegoni]
19:30 Cagliari - Lecce
Daniele Orsato - Lorenzo Manganelli - Alessandro Giallatini - Francesco Fourneau
[Luca Pairetto - Alessandro Lo Cicero]
19:30 Fiorentina - Hellas Verona
Daniele Chiffi - Filippo Meli - Niccolo Pagliardini - Federico Dionisi
[Aleandro Di Paolo - Ciro Carbone]
19:30 Parma - Bologna
Maurizio Mariani - Giorgio Peretti - Emanuele Prenna - Antonio Giua
[Fabio Maresca - Mauro Vivenzi]
19:30 Udinese - Sampdoria
Paolo Valeri - Marco Bresmes - Enrico Caliari - Antonio Rapuano
[Fabrizio Pasqua - Sergio Ranghetti]
21:45 Napoli - Milan
Federico La Penna - Giacomo Paganessi - Luca Mondin - Rosario Abisso
[Gianluca Rocchi - Daniele Bindoni]
SWEDEN
ReplyDeleteSaturday 11th July
15:00 Hammarby - IK Sirius
Mohammed Al-Hakim - Daniel Wärnmark, Daniel Yng - Fredrik Hansson
15:00 Falkenbergs FF - Östersund
Adam Ladebäck - Niklas Nyberg, Christian Tennstedt - Antti Kanerva
Sunday 12th July
14:30 Örebro - Varberg BoIS FC
Kristoffer Karlsson - Peter Allheim, Johan Thalin - Enzo Vesprini
14:30 Helsingborgs IF - AIK
Glenn Nyberg - Mahbod Beigi, Mikael Hallin - Per Melin
17:30 IFK Göteborg - Djurgården
Kaspar Sjöberg - Daniel Gustavsson, Fredrik Klyver - Joakim Östling
17:30 Mjällby AIF - BK Häcken
Fredrik Klitte - Mark Josef, Marcus Lundgren Klitte - Oscar Johnson
Monday 13th July
19:00 Kalmar FF - IF Elfsborg
Victor Wolf - Daniel Ekman, Per Rehnlund - Andreas Dufva-Johansson
19:00 Malmö FF - IFK Norrköping FK
Bojan Pandzic - Joakim Amri Nilsson, Robin Wilde - Andreas Ekberg
Italy Serie B Round 34
ReplyDeleteMonday 13 July
18:45 Cosenza - Perugia
Davide Ghersini - Luigi Lanotte - Alessandro Cipressa - Ivano Pezzuto
21:00 Ascoli - Empoli
Riccardo Ros - Fabio Schirru - Michele Grossi - Fabio Natilla
21:00 Cremonese - Chievo Verona
Giovanni Ayroldi - Edoardo Raspollini - Christian Rossi - Niccolo' Baroni
21:00 Crotone - Pordenone
Eugenio Abbattista - Luigi Rossi - Francesco Fiore - Francesco Cosso
21:00 Virtus Entella - Pisa
Lorenzo Illuzzi - Filippo Bercigli - Salvatore Affatato - Marco d'Ascanio
21:00 Frosinone - Juve Stabia
Valerio Marini - Alessio Berti - Giuseppe Macaddino - Ivan Robilotta
21:00 Livorno - Spezia
Daniel Amabile - Gianluca Sechi - Giuseppe Perrotti - Alessandro Prontera
21:00 Salernitana - Cittadella
Manuel Volpi - Damiano Margani - Mattia Scarpa - Gino Garofalo
21:00 Trapani - Benevento
Giacomo Camplone - Andrea Tardino - Gamal Mokhtar - Valerio Maranesi
21:00 Venezia - Pescara
Luca Massimi - Robert Avalos - Pietro Dei Giudici - Simone Sozza
Interesting situation in Romanian 2nd division (Petrolul vs Rapid Bucharest). Rapid GK saves 2 penalties but is sent off for 2 yellow cards, because each time he stepped in front of the goal line:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3adcr5-LQA
In the end Petrolul missed again the 3rd time, shooting over the crossbar.
Wow, it was so obvious that they couldnt ignore it even if they wanted :)
DeleteGood decision and nice handling of the situation!
We have a lot of sports here in Australia and I have many friends who don't follow football and prefer other sports and this situation here is why. The referee and assistant very bravely and correctly made the right decision but the reaction of the players towards the referees for making the correct decision and following the laws of the game is ridiculous. This is one of the main reasons my friends say they will never follow football, because of scenes like this.
DeleteThe ref should have already sent off the GK after the retake call because of the total animalistic dissents. The goalkeeper acted totally out of control and shamefully but got away with it. The other players too. The decisions by the AR are correct and it's very clear on replay. But this is what makes the sport entertaining. When chaos happens.
DeleteShowing those replays on the big screen in the stadium would help convince the players (who did not see any video evidence) that the decisions were correct.
DeleteWhy all this to me looked suspicious???
DeleteWhat looks suspicious to you?
DeleteThe video evidence shows blatant encroachment by the goalkeeper on both situations. Are you expecting the referees to ignore the laws and close their eyes to such clear and obvious situations?
Your thoughts on two penalties for handball in Juventus-Atalanta?
ReplyDeleteFor me rather debatable!
1st one I would even say is mistake, really small distance and as far as I can see, the ball hits the right hand which is completely adjacent to body.
2nd pk is supportable, but given the circumstance that it was close distance and unexpected change of direction, and not a shot towards goal, I think it is a bit harsh.
https://streamja.com/On61b
Deletehttps://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7uyksj
Close distance and unexpected ball are not considered anymore in Italy for handballs if arm is an open position and it increases body's volume, in all cases ALWAYS penalty. This also to find consistency. In the first case, the ball hits the left arm, that is a bit open, wouldn't have been penalty if ball had hit the other arm. However, it is clear that such situations until a few seasons ago were never whistled...
DeleteOk, thank you. I heard commentators talking about the "new rules regarding handball" and if they make sense or not.
DeleteAt least the referee didnt make mistakes if that is the rule.
IMO if you whistle for every hand, you wont get fair situation regardless of consistency. For me it makes sense to set those rules when the ball goes towards goal, but not for crosses or other situations. And with VAR there shouldnt be a problem to follow those. This seems a bit like they have only 4 referees and no VAR so they want to make their life easier...
Changes to Swiss Super League Round 30
ReplyDeleteSaturday July 11
18:15 FC Zürich - FC Sion
THIS MATCH HAS BEEN POSTPONED AFTER SOME PLAYERS FROM FC ZÜRICH WERE TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE COVID-19 VIRUS
20:30 FC Basel - YB
Sandro Schärer - Stéphane De Almeida, Bekim Zogaj - David Huwiler
[Stefan Horisberger, Johannes von Mandach]
Sunday July 12
16:00 FC Luzern - FC Lugano
Adrien Jaccottet - Matthias Sbrissa, Pascal Hirzel -David Huwiler
[Lionel Tschudi, Luca Cibelli]
16:00 FC Thun - Xamax
Urs Schnyder - Jan Köbeli, Benjamin Zürcher - Johannes von Mandach
[Stefan Horisberger, Sven Wolfensberger]
16:00 Servette - FC St Gallen
Fedayi San - Sladan Josipovic, Remy Zgraggen - Nicolas Jancevski
[Sascha Kever, Mirel Turkes]
Italy Serie A Round 32
ReplyDeleteMonday 13 July
21:45 Inter - Torino
Davide Massa - Damiano Di Iorio - Matteo Bottegoni - Daniele Minelli
[Luigi Nasca - Stefano Alassio]
Latvia
ReplyDelete/Referee observer - Delegate/
Sunday 12 July
16:00 FK Tukums 2000/TSS - Riga FC
Kristaps Ratnieks - Aleksejs Spasjonņikovs, Artūrs Šakurovs - Andris Treimanis (FIFA, UEFA 1st cat.)
/Sergejs Braga - Konstantīns Rubīns (Latvian Football Federation (LFF) Safety and fair play specialist)/
18:00 FK Metta - RFS
Aleksandrs Anufrijevs (FIFA, UEFA 3rd cat., LFF Secretary General bureau Referee branch specialist) - Jevgēnijs Morozovs, Arnis Lemkins - Mareks Ķere
/Vadims Direktorenko (UEFA, if I am not wrong) - Viktors Sopirins (LFF Commercial department Project branch Project Manager/
Monday 13th July
18:00 BFC Daugavpils - FK Ventspils
Andris Treimanis (FIFA, UEFA 1st cat.) - ?, Aleksejs Griščenko - Ivars Caune
/Kiazo Leladze - Maksims Raspopovs (Head of LFF Commercial department)/
19:00 FK Jelgava - Valmiera FC
Vitālijs Spasjonņikovs - Andrejs Kolosovs, Eduards Borisevičs - Aleksandrs Golubevs (FIFA, UEFA 3rd cat.)
/Jānis Pukijāns - ?/
The match FK Liepāja - FK Spartaks, which was scheduled for today, has been postponed for a currently unknown period of time for 'preventive safety reasons' after 3 FK Spartaks staff members contracted Covid-19. (The postponement decision was made yesterday.)
DeleteThe delegate in FK Jelgava - Valmiera FC was Aļesja Hodakovska.
DeleteNews from Latvia
ReplyDeleteDue to relatively many people from the Latvian football society contracting Covid-19 in the recent days (5 cases), all Latvian Higher League club players and staff members are being tested for the new coronavirus. So far 7 clubs' members have been tested - all results negative. The last 3 clubs' people will be tested until Tuesday. In addition, all the league's match officials, referee observers and delegates are also being tested with an aim to finish the testing till the beginning of the next (8th) matchday (16th July).
BIG Game (hot match) to João Pinheiro (2nd UEFA): FC Porto x Sporting CP - The 1st place decission between FC Porto (1st) and SL Benfica (2nd). Sporting CP is in 3rd place.
ReplyDeleteAll nominations in Portugal:
Monday 13th July
20:00 Marítimo M.-Rio Ave FC
Cláudio Pereira - Álvaro Mesquita, Bruno Trindade - Anzhony Rodrigues
[Manuel Oliveira, Tiago Leandro]
22:15 Vitória FC-FC Famalicão
Hélder Malheiro - Rui Cidade, José Luzia - João Malheiro Pinto
[Rui Costa, João Bessa Silva]
Tuesday 14th July
18:00 CD Santa Clara-CD Aves
Gustavo Correia - Rui Licínio, Inácio Pereira - João Gonçalves
[Carlos Xistra, Marco Vieira]
20:15 Portimonense SC-Boavista FC
Manuel Mota - Jorge Fernandes, Paulo Miranda - Miguel Nogueira
[Tiago Martins, Pedro Mota]
22:30 Gil Vicente FC-CD Tondela
Jorge Sousa - Nuno Manso, Sérgio Jesus - Luís Máximo
[Rui Oliveira, Nélson Cunha]
22:30 SL Benfica-Vitória SC
Hugo Miguel - Bruno Jesus, António Godinho - António Nobre
[Luís Godinho, Valter Rufo]
Wednesday 15th July
18:00 Moreirense FC-FC Paços de Ferreira
Rui Costa - Tiago Costa, João Bessa Silva - Dinis Gorjão
[Vítor Ferreira, Pedro Fernandes]
20:15 SC Braga-Belenenses SAD
André Narciso - Paulo Brás, Carlos Covão - David Silva
[João Bento, André Campos]
22:30 FC Porto-Sporting CP
João Pinheiro - Bruno Rodrigues, Luciano Maia - Iancu Vasilica
[Artur Soares Dias, Paulo Soares]
Greek SL MD9
ReplyDeleteWednesday 15 July
18:15 Aris - Panathinaikos
Georgios Vreskas, Konstantinos Kalampokis, Ilias Konstantinou, Fotios Fotiadis
[Anastasios Sidiropoulos, Alexandros Tsamouris]
18:15 OFI - Olympiakos
Aristidis Vatsios, Michail Dimopoulos, Nikolaos Pagkalos, Dimitrios Maloutas
[Efstathios Gortzilas, Theofilos Moisiadis]
20:30 AEK - PAOK
Danny Makkelie, Mario Diks, Hessel Steegstra, Aristotelis Diamantopoulos
[Jochen Kampuis, Polychronis Kostaras]
Clément Turpin gets a match in Switzerland... Probably to get fit for Champions League?
ReplyDeleteSwiss Super League MD 31
14.07.
20:30 FC Basel - FC Zürich
Fedayi San - Jonas Erni, Mirco Bürgi - Anonen Kanagasingan
[Alain Bieri, Mirel Turkes]
15.07.
18:15 Neuchatel Xamax - FC Sion
Adrien Jaccotter - Stéphane De Almeida, Sertac Kurnazca - Alessandro Dudic
[Alain Bieri, Sven Wolfensberger]
20:30 Young Boys Bern - Servette Genf
Clément Turpin - Nicolas Danos, Cyril Gringore - Luca Cibelli
[Urs Schnyder, Stefan Horisberger]
20:30 FC Lugano - FC Thun
Lionel Tschudi - Alain Heiniger, Christopher Chaillet - Vladimir Ovcharov
[Sandro Schärer, Jean-Yves Wicht]
20:30 FC St Gallen - FC Luzern
Lukas Fähndrich - Sladan Josipovic, Jan Köbeli - Johannes von Mandach
[Esther Staubli, Bekim Zogaj]
SFV and FFF have a ref exchange program. Makes sense to give Turpin a real game instead of Friendly's to gain form.
DeleteUsually this exchange doesn't make sense for him
"Usually this exchange doesn't make sense for him"
DeleteWhat do you mean? Turpin too good for officiating in Swiss league? This would be very insulting for Switzerland.
What would Turpin learn from that? Maybe the biggest matches, but the Swiss level is simply lower.
Delete@Anonymous
DeleteRikB answers tells a lot.
There isn't any thing which under non Corona circumstances Turpin could profit. Makes more sense to send a young ref
Any games for Turpin are better than no games, in preparation for the return of the UEFA competitions.
DeleteMOLDOVA DIVIZIA NATIONALA. MD3
ReplyDeleteMonday. 13 July
20.30. MILSAMI - SPERANTA
Victor BUGENKO-Victor MARDARI ( FIFA), Alexandr CIOCHINA-Gabriel TUPICICA
ISRAELI CUP FINAL
ReplyDeleteMonday 13th July
19:45 Hapoel Be'er Sheva - Maccabi Petah Tikva
Orel Grinfeld - Idan Bernstein, Rami Ben Yitzhak - Shlomi Ben Avraham
[Eli Hakmon, Matityahu Yakobov]
Marius Hansen Grøtta, promoted before this season to Eliteserien, hasn't had the best of starts to his top flight career.
ReplyDeleteGame 1: Wrong penalty
Game 2: Missed RC (SFP)
Game 3: Wrong RC (very clear genuine attempt to play the ball - DOGSO).
And it All culminated yesterday, with a very poor performance in Mjøndalen-Vålerenga. He was very insecure and hesitant, and only gave a clear red card to Vålerenga's keeper for handling inside the box following advice from AR1 (Bashevkin) or 4th (Børresen).
After this red card, Mjøndalen took full control of the game, which Vålerenga was leading 0-1, and constantly tried to overpower Vålerenga in the box with their bigger and stronger players. Vålerenga realised that the only way to survive the pressure was to go for fouls, and on 3 occasions Mjøndalen had goals disallowed by referee Grøtta for very soft or inexistent fouls where Vålerenga players threw themselves down. Plus 3-4 more occasions of soft or wrong whistles in the box. The worst incident was when Vålerenga's keeper collides with his own player in the box, goes down, gets back up again when he sees he's out of position, at the same time a Mjøndalen player shoots the ball into the goal, but Grøtta whistles just when the ball is entering the goal. The goalkeeper was obviously not injured.
This has caused major reactions in Norwegian football, former referee Edvartsen has publicly stated that Grøtta is not good enough for this level of football, and (former) lower level players from Grøtta's area have spoken out and said that they can't understand why Grøtta has reached this level: He was a poor referee already at those levels, but was pushed through the system because of his excellent fitness (he's a PE teacher).
Time will show when Grøtta will be seen in Eliteserien again, it would probably be best to give him some 2nd level games to regain confidence first.
I will post videos later of the incidents.
Manchester United - Southampton, ref: Kavanagh
ReplyDelete42th minute, foul by Southampton player:
https://twitter.com/tahir_diablo/status/1282769243096977409
What a miss red card by ref and VAR...
Attached the move https://streamja.com/dmM2K
DeleteItaly Serie A Round 33
ReplyDeleteTuesday 14 July
21:45 Atalanta - Brescia
Gianluca Manganiello - Giovanni Baccini - Oreste Muto - Lorenzo Maggioni
[Fabrizio Pasqua - Giorgio Peretti]
Spanish Segunda Division
ReplyDeleteOviedo - Real Zaragoza
https://streamable.com/c0h9at
Interesting. My first idea was, that it should be a defensive FK, because the blue player steps onto his opponents foot. But the orange player actually sticks his leg out and doesn't continue running towards the ball. Therefore can also be seen as tripping by the defender. So both decisions are supportable IMO and it's up to the referee's interpretation.
DeleteI watched the situation (referee Gorka Sagués Oscoz, 1980)
DeleteJoke penalty if you ask me. It's ZAR26 who actually steps on OVI12. Unacceptable from VAR not to have intervened, Sagués Oscoz was lucky that score was 1-4 and it was the very last minute.
Agree with Quilava, it's a joke penalty.
DeleteClear foul by attacker, VAR should have intervened.
DeleteIt's funny ... Foul in the opposite direction. VAR didn't work, horror .....((((((((((((((
DeleteLaLiga MD37 appointments.
ReplyDeleteThursday, 16th July
18:30 Eibar - Valladolid
César Soto Grado - Alfonso Costoya Rodríguez, Carlos Álvarez Fernández - Enrique Gao Aladro
[Mario Melero López, José Luis Martínez Serrato]
21:00 Athletic Club - Leganés
Juan Martínez Munuera - Diego Barbero Sevilla, Juan José López Mir - Carlos Pérez Fernández
[Jesús Gil Manzano, Ángel Nevado Rodríguez]
21:00 Barcelona - Osasuna
José María Sánchez Martínez - José Gallego García, Javier Martínez Nicolás - Carlos Alberto Carbonell Hernández
[José Luis González González, Manuel Ángel Torre Cimiano]
21:00 Betis - Alavés
David Medié Jiménez - Juan Carlos Barranco Trejo, Joan Méndez Mateo - Fernando Bueno Prieto
[Guillermo Cuadra Fernández, Teodoro Sobrino Magán]
21:00 Celta de Vigo - Levante
José Luis Munuera Montero - Iñigo Prieto López de Ceráin, Alfonso Baena Espejo - Pedro Eugenio Muñoz Piedra
[Adrián Cordero Vega, Marcos Cerdán Aguilar]
21:00 Getafe - Atlético de Madrid
Antonio Mateu Lahoz - Pau Cebrián Devís, Iker de Francisco Grijalba - Abraham Domínguez Cervantes
[Ignacio Iglesias Villanueva, Jon Núñez Fernández]
21:00 Mallorca - Granada
Xavier Estrada Fernández - Roberto Alonso Fernández, Guadalupe Porras Ayuso - David López Jiménez
[Javier Alberola Rojas, Iván Hernández Ramos]
21:00 Real Madrid - Villarreal
Alejandro Hernández Hernández - José Enrique Naranjo Pérez, José Alcoba Rodríguez - Sergio del Río Lozano
[Pablo González Fuertes, Alfredo Rodríguez Moreno]
21:00 Real Sociedad - Sevilla
Carlos del Cerro Grande - Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez, Abraham Álvarez Cantón - Sergio Usón Rosel
[Santiago Jaime Latre, Jorge Bueno Mateo]
21:00 Valencia - Espanyol
Eduardo Prieto Iglesias - Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar, Aitor Villate Martínez - David Cambronero González
[Valentín Pizarro Gómez, Gonzalo García González]
ITALY SERIE A
ReplyDeleteATALANTA – BRESCIA 14/07 h. 21.45
MANGANIELLO Gianluca IV: MAGGIONI Lorenzo VAR: PASQUA Fabrizio BOLOGNA – NAPOLI 15/07 h. 19.30
PICCININI Marco IV: RAPUANO Antonio VAR: CALVARESE Gianpaolo MILAN – PARMA 15/07 h. 19.30
IRRATI Massimiliano IV: GIACOMELLI Piero VAR: NASCA Luigi SAMPDORIA – CAGLIARI 15/07 h. 19.30
PAIRETTO Luca IV: MARINELLI Livio VAR: DI PAOLO
LECCE – FIORENTINA 15/07 h. 21.45
GUIDA Marco IV: DI MARTINO Antonio VAR: LA PENNA Federico
ROMA – H. VERONA 15/07 h. 21.45
MARESCA Fabio IV: DIONISI Federico VAR: DI BELLO Marco SASSUOLO – JUVENTUS 15/07 h. 21.45
VALERI Paolo IV: SACCHI Juan Luca VAR: CHIFFI Daniele
UDINESE – LAZIO 15/07 h. 21.45
ABISSO Rosario IV: SERRA Marco VAR: MASSA Davide
OT
ReplyDeleteNews from Greece
Mark Clattenburg and Peter Frojdfeld are the two candidates to replace Melo Pereira. The new Head of Greek refereeing will be selected on Friday by a vote.
Fröjfeldt, what a hero!
DeleteDid Pereira's contract end or the Greek FA has a reason to replace him?
DeleteWill there be any promotions or demotions afyer end of the season? And who will decide that?
Delete@Anonymous at 17:04
DeletePereira's contract expired.
@Anonymous at 17:48
According to the info, there will be a few promotions/demotions. It is said that only 2 of the SL referees will leave the list. There are 7-8 candidates (3 FIFA referees).
The decision will come from the current referee's committee (Pereira, Marin, Lindberg).
Interesting! Pereira did not apply for a new contract or he is not interested anymore? Will Marin or Lindberg continue?
DeleteIt is said no members from the current committee, foreign or greek, will continue
DeletePereira should have left last year but his contract was renewed by UEFA's intervention. HFF said that he would stay for another year. Due to the Corona pandemic his contract will end on 30 July 2020.
DeleteIt is said that the new Head of Refereeing will choose his colleagues (one of them will be a VAR expert). Lindberg will definitely leave. Marin has some chances of staying but I find it difficult.
Koukoulakis (VAR expert) will also leave. It is said that he is going to Cyprus. The big ? is Tritsonis. HFF favors him but honestly education of referees here is too weak.
Are Clattenburg and Frojdfeldt suggested by UEFA or they applied in a selection process organized by HFF?
DeleteSPAIN
ReplyDelete2ªB to Segunda play-off appointments.
18th July
20:00 Ibiza-Eivissa - UE Cornellá
Fernando Román Román (1988) - Javier Garrido Concha, Eliana Fernández Fernández - Germán Cid Camacho
20:00 Athletic B - CD Badajoz
Alonso de Ena Wolf (1992) - Francisco Mur Oto, Juan José Ballesteros Rubio - Marcos Latorre Gracia
22:00 Castellón - UD Logroñés (match for direct promotion!)
David Gálvez Rascón (1981) - Yuval Conde Pérez, Mario Martín-Consuegra Díaz - Manuel Ángel Pérez Hernández
22:00 Marbella - Peña Deportiva
Julio Fermín Leo Ollo (1979) - Ángel David Domínguez Zapatero, Cristian Vázquez Martínez - Alberto Gómez Lameiro
19th July
20:00 Barcelona B - Valladolid B
José Luis Guzmán Mansilla (1995) - José Francisco García Lozano, Ángel Valverde Martínez - José Antonio Sánchez Villalobos
20:00 CE Sabadell - Atlético de Madrid B
Mateo Busquets Ferrer (1994) - Josep Bordoy Homar, Víctor Jiménez Yustos - Luis Bestard Servera
22:00 Cartagena - Atlético Baleares (match for direct promotion!)
Francisco José Hernández Maeso (1988) - Álvaro González Narváez, Álvaro Granel Peiró - Manuel García Gómez
22:00 Cultural Leonesa - Yeclano
Víctor García Verdura (1994) - Sergi López Freixa, Mariona Peralta Geis - Albert Catalá Ferrán
1995 - 1994.... spain one step beyond
DeleteReferees in Spain are promoted to 2ªB (3rd category) quite early, actually there's an age limit of 30 to be promoted. The idea of CTA-RFEF is that talented referees are pushed from regional categories and promoted quite young, to spend some years developing on a semi-professional level. E.g. the 4 promoted referees last year to Segunda spent 10, 8, 8 and 5 years in 2ªB, while 2 of them were born in 1990 or later.
DeleteThe process to select referees to promote to 2ªB is known as 'Talents and Mentors' program and is directed by former FIFA referee Antonio Rubinos Pérez. In this process, each regional federation of Spain selects in March four under-30 referees (6 in the case of Andalusia). From March to May, each referee is appointed for two games on its local league in which he will be observed by a professional CTA observer, whose reports will be decisive to eliminate 1 of the 4 pre-selected referees.
The 3 referees by region having passed to the next phase go to Madrid and do physical tests and technical tests (LOTG test, RFEF regulations test, match reports writing test, English test and psychologic test) in which they get points based on their marks.
Finally, the referees are appointed for one or two Tercera to 2ªB promotion matches, observed by CTA-RFEF national observers directly appointed from Madrid, whose report and mark of the game will be decisive, because the 20 best referees (nationally) based on the sum of the marks of observers' reports and Madrid physical and technical tests are promoted to 2ªB category.
Due to Covid-19 and cancellation of the rest of regular season, this season CTA-RFEF and regional federation had to 'skip' the March-May matches and reports phase and the eliminated referee from each region came from physical and technical tests.
Controversial scenes from Mjøndalen-Vålerenga (referee: Marius Hansen Grøtta)
ReplyDeleteRed card for DOGSO, poor management:
https://streamable.com/0gq70n
Three disallowed goals:
https://streamable.com/lplmgc
https://streamable.com/v8599x
https://streamable.com/3xlr90
Oh my...
DeleteTechnically there was only one disallowed goal because in the 2nd and the 3rd situation the whistle was before the goal.
My general opinion is that this guy was lost and lacks basic talent to officiate the game. The 3 situations are completely different: The first and the second situation are managed ok, especially the 2nd in which i would praise his fast reaction. Whether it was a foul or not is a different question, for me it seems maybe there was pulling hand in the first situation, but I dont know. Seems harsh definitely.
The RC and the third situation are just a complete mess!!! Terrible management, and in the last situation unexplainably bad timing and positioning (he almost blocked the shot) and strange gesture at first like he was telling the gk to get up (?). He had a good moment to stop the game, but he missed it and then caused a chaos.
7.6 at most IMO
Now, halfway through World Cup 2002, find an exhaustive list of all the second round of group matches below.
ReplyDeleteI categorised them by ‘interesting-ness’:
Game of the round:
Denmark – Senegal, Carlos Batres
Very Interesting:
France – Uruguay, Felipe Ramos Rizo
Italy – Croatia, Graham Poll
South Africa – Slovenia, Ángel Sánchez
Costa Rica – Turkey, Coffi Codjia
Quite Interesting:
DeleteArgentina – England, Pierluigi Collina
Mexico – Ecuador, Mourad Daami
Japan – Russia, Markus Merk
Portugal – Poland, Hugh Dallas
Spain – Paraguay, Gamal Al-Ghandour
Korea Republic – United States, Urs Meier
Not Really Interesting:
Tunisia – Belgium, Mark Shield
Cameroon – Saudi Arabia, Terje Hauge
Sweden – Nigeria, René Ortubé
Brazil – China, Anders Frisk
Germany – Ireland, Kim Milton Nielsen
You awarded 7.9 to 95% of the referees so far!!! Were they so bad at WC 2002?
DeleteTo reply to Anonymous - no, actually I have been even really impressed with the quality of the officiating.
DeleteCrucial mistakes that I assign should more be viewed as 'there are no grounds to support this decision in 2020' as opposed to anything else. I hope in the reports I successfully stress the 'nature' of the crucial mistakes, and how trivial or otherwise they would have been eighteen years ago.
I would stress that people should focus on the report and not just the mark!
Yes, I have read the reports and watched highlights, after having watched the games back in 2002, that's why I asked about so many 7,9 marks and that is even before Moreno's and Al-Ghandour "shows" in the KO stage!!!
DeleteBy the way, why are you writing the marks as "7.9(4)" instead of "7.9(8.4)", as they show in the marking scale?
How do you see the WC2002 separate selection of the best referees and the best ARs, as opposed to the "trio" selection introduced in 2006 and currently still in place?
DeleteI am curious for the Wegereef match...
DeleteForgive the somewhat shameless plug but if you are interested to see Vítor Melo Pereira, in the news as Edward reported, referee at World Cup 2002: his Denmark - France game will be up on my blog by the end of the evening :).
ReplyDeletehttps://wc02refs.blogspot.com/
I look forward to.
DeleteSerie A Italy Round 33
ReplyDeleteWednesday 15 July
19:30 Bologna - Napoli
Marco Piccinini - Alberto Tegoni - Mauro Vivenzi - Antonio Rapuano
[Gianpaolo Calvarese - Lorenzo Manganelli]
19:30 Milan - Parma
Massimiliano Irrati - Alessandro Costanzo - Rodolfo Di Vuolo - Piero Giacomelli
[Luigi Nasca - Ciro Carbone]
19:30 Sampdoria - Cagliari
Luca Pairetto - Matteo Passeri - Vito Mastrodonato - Livio Marinelli
[Aleandro Di Paolo - Dario Cecconi]
21:45 Lecce - Fiorentina
Marco Guida - Salvatore Longo - Valerio Colarossi - Antonio Di Martino
[Federico La Penna - Stefano Del Giovane]
21:45 Roma - Hellas Verona
Fabio Maresca - Giorgio Schenone - Tarcisio Villa - Federico Dionisi
[Marco Di Bello - Valentino Fiorito]
21:45 Sassuolo - Juventus
Paolo Valeri - Sergio Ranghetti - Stefano Liberti - Juan Luca Sacchi
[Daniele Chiffi - Mauro Galetto]
21:45 Udinese - Lazio
Rosario Abisso - Alessio Tolfo - Domenico Rocca - Marco Serra
[Davide Massa - Luca Mondin]
Thursday 16 July
19:30 Torino - Genoa
Gianluca Rocchi - Daniele Bindoni - Alessandro Lo Cicero - Maurizio Mariani
[Paolo Mazzoleni - Giacomo Paganessi]
21:45 Spal - Inter
Antonio Giua - Stefano Alassio - Lorenzo Gori - Eugenio Abbattista
[Daniele Doveri - Damiano Di Iorio]
Why Italian FIFA referees do not wear their FIFA badges in Serie A? In all other countries, FIFA referees are always wearing their FIFA badges.
DeleteItaly Serie B Round 35 Friday 17 July
ReplyDelete18:45 Pescara - Frosinone
Federico Dionisi - Niccolo Pagliardini - Marco Scatragli - Lorenzo Illuzzi
21:00 Benevento - Livorno
Antonio Di Martino - Andrea Capone - Antonio Vono - Maria Marotta
21:00 Cittadella - Ascoli
Gianluca Aureliano - Francesco Fiore - Thomas Ruggieri - Marco Ricci
21:00 Crotone - Salernitana
Alessandro Prontera - Fabrizio Lombardo - Andrea Zingarelli - Fabio Natilla
21:00 Empoli - Virtus Entella
Livio Marinelli - Domenico Palermo - Michele Lombardi - Cristian Cudini
21:00 Juve Stabia - Chievo Verona
Ivano Pezzutto - Salvatore Affatato - Damiano Margani - Giacomo Camplone
21:00 Perugia - Cremonese
Daniele Minelli - Alessio Saccenti - Marcello Rossi - Niccolo' Baroni
21:00 Pisa - Trapani
Ivan Robilotta - Davide Miele - Daniele Marchi - Valerio Marini
21:00 Pordenone - Cosenza
Lorenzo Maggioni - Vittorio Di Gioia - Riccardo Annaloro - Daniel Amabile
21:00 Spezia - Venezia
Francesco Fourneau - Manuel Robilotta - Orlando Pagnotta - Marco Monaldi
Cüneyt Çakır has been invited to Lisbon for Champions League QF, SF, F games.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the info, so it seems as UEFA is sending invitation letters to all participants for both Champions League and Europa League final stages. We could draw the first conclusion that CL referees wont be appointed in EL and we will have maybe two separate groups.
Deletehttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ntvspor.net/amp/foto-galeri/cuneyt-cakir-a-lizbon-da-gorev-5f0f2865a819931d48f5dfe4/1
DeleteIn Turkish
My guess is that in Champions League we will see only those referees who officiated regularly in the past months, and those who did not eventualy in Europa League. My guess for CL: Lahoz, Marciniak, Taylor and Orsato in QF (those four are candidates for the final), Brcyh and Cakir for semi finals. In EL I expect: Makkelie, Turpin, Del Cerro, Olover (candidates for the final), Hategan/Skomina/Kuipers for semi finals.
DeleteI think, UEFA will invite 8 referees to Lisboa(UCL) and 8 referees to Germany(UEL)
DeleteUCL:
Cakir
Kuipers
Taylor
Mateu Lahoz (final)
Brych
Skomina
Orsato
Marciniak
UEL:
Oliver
Kassai
Sidiropoulos
Makkelie (final)
Dias
Vincic
Zwayer
Hategan
Kassai has retired.
DeleteSince many days I was thinking about the opportunity to gather a small number of referees in Portugal and in Germany respectively for Cl and El to manage final stage, like it happens for Euro Cup or FIFA world cup. I had in mind that this possibility was cancelled due to COVID rules which deny to collect many people together, but I like it so much. I think that referees can work together in the same rooms and field and prepare carefully final phase, like it happens at FIFA world cup. Good choice.
DeleteI would expect 10-12 referees considering central referee, IV official and VAR and 12 assistant referees, 8 on the field and 4 as AVAR.
For CL I would choose:
DANNY MAKKELIE
BJORN KUIPERS
DANIELE ORSATO
MASSIMILIANO IRRATI
FELIX BRYCH
DAMIR SKOMINA
CUYNET CAKIR
ANTONIO MATEU LAHOZ
ARTUR SOARES DIAS
TOBIAS STIELER
I would select the following teams for quarterfinal: Orsato (IV Soares Dias VAR Irrati),
Makkelie (IV Mateu Lahoz VAR Kuipers),
Skomina (IV Soares Dias VAR Cakir)
Brych (IV Mateu lahoz VAR Stieler)
keeping Kuipers and Cakir for semifinal and Mateu lahoz for final hoping that he could have this opportunity without Spanish teams in the final
For EL I would choose:
CLEMENT TURPIN
MICHAEL OLIVER
ANTHONY TAYLOR
SZYMON MARCINIAK
OVIDIU HATEGAN
CARLOS DEL CERRO GRANDE
FELIX ZWAYER
DENITZ AYTEKIN
DANIEL SEIBERT
SASCHA STAGEMANN
I would select the following teams for quarterfinal: Oliver (IV Siebert VAR Turpin),
Taylor (IV Aytekin VAR Marciniak),
Zwayer (IV Siebert VAR Stagemann)
Del Cerro Grande (IV Aytekin VAR Hategan)
keeping Marciniak and Hategan for semifinal and Turpin
What do you think ?
Greek SL MD10
ReplyDelete18/07
18:15 Larisa - Xanthi
Anastasios Sidiropoulos, Polychronis Kostaras, Lazaros Dimitriadis, Alexandros Katsikogiannis
[Angelos Evangelou, Pantelis Spyropoulos]
18:15 Asteras Tripolis - Lamia
Dimitrios Karantonis, Ioannis Karagkizopoulos, Stavros Sipkas, Aristidis Vatsios
[Praxitelis Zachariadis, Georgios Christakoglou]
18:15 Atromitos - Panionios
Aristotelis Diamantopoulos, Chrysoula Kourompilia, Iordanis Dimitriadis, Petros Tsagkarakis
[Vasilios Fotias, Michail Papadakis]
18:15 Panaitolikos - Volos
Georgios Tzovaras, Dimitrios Filos, Angelos Zirdas, Aristomenis Koutsiaftis
[Athanasios Tzilos, Konstantinos Triantafyllou]
19/07
19:00 Olympiakos - AEK
Anastasios Papapetrou, Iordanis Aptosoglou, Dimitrios Samoilis, Georgios Vreskas
[Konstantinos Kotsanis, Andreas Meintanas]
19:00 PAOK - ARIS
Clement Turpin, Nicolas Danos, Cyril Gringore, Evangelos Manouchos
[Francois Lexetier, Michail Dimopoulos]
19:00 Panathinaikos - OFI
Ioannis Papadopoulos, Nikolaos Savvas, Antonios Diplaris, Alexandros Tsamouris
[Athanasios Sezos, Petros Patras]
So Dutch and French referees found their training ground in Greece, very good.
DeleteForeign leaders... foreign referees :)
DeleteInteresting LotG question:
ReplyDeleteA corner kick directly hits the referee and rebounds back to the corner flag, where the player, who took the corner, plays the ball again. Decision?
I would stop play and restart with a dropped ball. At least the defending team will have time to reorganize and position their players nearer to the corner flag where the play will restarts.
DeleteWhat's the jusitfication for the dropped ball based on the LotG?
DeleteIt has to considered as double touch by corner kicker (referee neutral element on the field), should be indirect free kick to opponents.
DeleteYes, indirect free kick should be correct, although the intuitive decision is dropped ball.
DeleteBut there is no change of possession, so the conditions for the dropped ball are not fulfilled and it remains the double contact by the corner taker.
DFB has answered that question and confirmed it is a indirect free kick.
BTW, it should be the same for a goal kick: If the goal kick hits the referee and returns towards goal, the goalkeeper should not stop it. If he touches the ball, it's indirect free kick - if he lets it pass and it goes into the goal, the game continues with a dropped ball.
OT
ReplyDeleteBig trouble for Makkelie.
Last night at the AEK-PAOK match the FO (Diamantopoulos) found out that 12 players of PAOK were ineligible to play because their health cards had expired. The referee decided to start the match despite the Greek regulations said otherwise.
AEK has the right to object to the match and win it.
According to the regulations if the referee starts the match he can be suspended for at least 3 months.
That makes little sense. Doesn’t Greece have Match Commissioners / FA Delegates who are, comparable to UEFA matches, responsible for matters like these?
DeleteI agree with Anonymus. Match delegates are responsible for matters like that. Furthermore, I somehow doubt that Makkelie would come in another country and make decision like that on his own. I am sure there must be something we dont know behind this story...
DeleteI don't get why is that Makkelie's fault.
DeleteBut, this may be a problem of appointing foreign referees.
Even in competitions with match delegates, the referee can consult with other officials, but is ultimately responsible.
DeleteAccording to the Greek regulations that referee is solely at fault if he starts a match that shouldn't. At that spesific case a match can't start with so many expired health cards. PAOK had 18 players listed. That means that they only had 6 eligible players. A match cannot start with less than 9 players.
DeleteThen Greek regulations are quite remarkable...
DeleteA match not allowed to start with less than 9 players, where the LOTG require a minimum of 7 to start or continue a match.
Furthermore, in UEFA matches (with UEFA Delegates being appointed), it’s not the referee who is ultimately responsible for allowing the match to start when it concerns matters related to the regulations (contrary to matters related to the LOTG), but the UEFA Delegate.
I can hardly imagine this case has any negative consequences for Makkelie, and if so, he’ll be out for Greek competition appointments for three months :)
Beneath a link to a Greek article about yesterday’s issue.
DeleteApparently before yesterday’s match PAOK already played two matches (against Panathinaikos and Olympiakos) without the required valid medical certificates. As the Greek FA didn’t intervene in any way (referees before as well as, afterwards, the FA itself) they apparently allow the absence of valid certificates...?
https://www.agonasport.com/agonasport-allnews/aek-pondering-whether-to-punish-paok-for-astounding-mistake
Are foreign refereees obliged to study all this stuff before officiating in Greece? This looks quite stupid to me. Other people should check that.
Delete@Anonymous 15:43: could you prove what you said by posting a link to any UEFA document indicating that the match delegate is responsible, not the referee, for issues related to players' eligibility in UEFA competitions?
Delete@Anonymous 18:15
DeleteIt seems I wasn’t correct. For issues regarding player eligibility neither referee nor match delegate is responsible.
https://ibb.co/NsF1k4J
@Anonymus 19:01 Well that is even more interesting. I was always convinced that it was a responsibility of delegate...
Delete@Anonymus 18:15 Why would referrr be responsible for this? This has nothing with referee, id anyone then delegate because he is the one who should check if administrative things are ok. Referee is responsible for implementing the Laws of the game. Correct me if I am wrong but there is no a single sentence in the LOTG that sais that referee is responsible for health cards, this is something ruled by each federation (in Croatia delegate is responsible for health cards, referee only in case that delegate is not appointed or did not come to the match).
All in all, UEFAs solution that referees and delegates are not responsible but clubs is probably the best one.
In my country, the referee must check before each game the players' books with respect to the annual registration and the health cards. If either of these are missing or expired, the referee must make a note in the match report and inform the team that the respective player is not eligible.
DeleteReferees have to enforce both the Laws of the Game and the competition rules.
DeleteObviously not @Anonymous 16:21, as you can read in the UEFA document linked above.
DeleteNot in UEFA, but certainly in some domestic competitions, especially in Eastern and Central Europe. As you could see in other comments, it is not the same in every country. Do not assume that everyone has the same rules and regulations.
DeleteMOLDOVA. DIVIZIA NATIONALA. MD 4
ReplyDeleteFriday. 17 July
18.00. PETROCUB - CODRU
Ion ORLIC - Victor MARDARI (FIFA), Natalia CEBAN (FIFA) - Denis IVLEV
20.30. SHERIFF - ZIMRU
Veaceslav BANARI (FIFA) - Vlad LIFCIU (FIFA), Dumitru PONOMARENCO - Dumitru MUNTEAN (FIFA)
Anthony Taylor was the referee in two consecutive games involving Everton (Sunday vs Wolves & today vs Villa). Is this normal?
ReplyDeleteReferees for Final 8 of CL in Lisboa in my view: Kuipers, Cakir, Orsato, Skomina, Lahoz, Brych, Taylor, Marciniak. Biggest chances if Spanish team advance to final have Orsato/Taylor. If Spanish no in final, Lahoz.
ReplyDeleteFor final 8 in Germany, EL i predict: Hategan, Oliver, Del Cerro, Collum, Soares Dias, Zwayer, Turpin, Makiellie. Instead of Greek situation, I think that main candidate for EL final here is Danny.
Who is referee in friendly Lyon Rangers? Very harsh RC decision, not because it is a friendly, but because of the context. Not a violent conduct to me.
ReplyDeleteKarim Abed (FRA-UEFA 2nd)
DeleteLatest games from World Cup 2002, actually all handled by current UEFA Referee Observers. Wegereef (12 x YCs) and López Nieto (14 x YCs; 2 x SYCs) both set a new record for the number of cards issued in a World Cup game on the same day.
ReplyDeleteDenmark – France, Vítor Melo Pereira
Senegal – Uruguay, Jan Wegereef
Cameroon – Germany, Antonio López Nieto
Not that López Nieto’s (nor Melo Pereira’s) match is boring, but Wegereef’s is well worth a look :).
The name of the greek Assistant referee, who is also Fifa Assistant is Reinhard Buxbaum, not Rainchard Bouxbaoum. Just to get it correct.
ReplyDeleteThat's how Greeks write it.
DeleteLatvia
ReplyDeleteReferee observer - Delegate
Thursday 16th July
18:00 FK Liepāja - FK Tukums 2000/TSS
Aleksandrs Golubevs - Mārtiņš Svipsts, Rihards Saulenbergs - Jevgenijs Keziks
/Vladimirs Direktorenko - Viktors Sopirins/
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