Sunday 25 September 2022

UEFA Nations League 2022/23 - Discussion on MD6

Discussion about 2022-23 UEFA Nations League, Matchday 6.




Matchday 6

League D - Group 1
25 September 2022, 15:00 CET - Andorra La Vella, Estadi Nacional 
ANDORRA  LATVIA 
Referee: Anastasios Papapetrou (GRE) 
Assistant Referee 1: Tryfon Petropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Iordanis Aptosoglou (GRE)
Fourth Official: Andreas Gamaris (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee: Aggelos Evangelou (GRE) 
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Evangelos Manouchos (GRE) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Vitor Manuel Melo Pereira (POR) 
UEFA Delegate: Roxana Berceanu (ROU)
Referee Liaison Officer: Joel Saura Fort (AND)

League D - Group 1
25 September 2022, 15:00 CET - Chișinău, Stadionul Zimbru 
MOLDOVA  LIECHTENSTEIN 
Referee: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA) 
Assistant Referee 1: Mikael Berchebru (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwan Finjean (FRA)
Fourth Official: Johan Hamel (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alessio Tolfo (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Nuno Parreira Castro (POR) 
UEFA Delegate: Hayri Çavuşoğlu (TUR)
Mentor for Delegate: Barry Bright (ENG)
Referee Liaison Officer: Ion Orlic (MDA)

League C - Group 3
25 September 2022, 18:00 CET - Trnava, Štadión Antona Malatinského Bačka Topola,  TSC Arena
SLOVAKIA - BELARUS 
Referee: Nikola Dabanović (MNE)
Assistant Referee 1: Milovan Djukić (MNE)
Assistant Referee 2: Vladan Todorović (MNE)
Fourth Official: Miloš Bošković (MNE)
Video Assistant Referee: Duje Strukan (CRO)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fran Jovic (CRO) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicola Rizzoli (ITA) 
UEFA Delegate: Vignir Már Þormóðsson (ISL)
Referee Liaison Officer: Ivan Stamenković (SRB)

League C - Group 3
25 September 2022, 18:00 CET - Baku, Dalga Arena 
AZERBAIJAN - KAZAKHSTAN 
Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Robert Kempter (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Dominik Schaal (GER) 
Fourth Official: Martin Petersen (GER) 
Video Assistant Referee: Benjamin Brand (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pascal Müller (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Manuel Díaz Vega (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Veiko Soo (EST) 
Referee Liaison Officer: Cavid Cəlilov (AZE)

League A - Group 4
25 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Amsterdam, Johan Cruijff ArenA
NETHERLANDS - BELGIUM
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG) 
Fourth Official: Craig Pawson (ENG) 
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Lee Betts (ENG) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Jouni Hyytiä (FIN)
UEFA Delegate: Loukas Siotropos (GRE) 
Referee Liaison Officer: Jef van Vliet (NED)

League A - Group 1
25 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Vienna, Ernst-Happel-Stadion
AUSTRIA - CROATIA 
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Soares (POR) 
Fourth Official: Gustavo Correia (POR) 
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fabio Verissimo (POR) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Thomas Ross (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Bakar Jordania (GEO)
Referee Liaison Officer: Gerhard Gerstenmayer (AUT)

League A - Group 4
25 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Cardiff, Cardiff City Stadium
WALES - POLAND
Referee: Andris Treimanis (LVA) 
Assistant Referee 1: Haralds Gudermanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleksejs Spasjoņņikovs (LVA)
Fourth Official: Aleksandrs Golubevs (LVA)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Giovanni Baccini (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Marian Ruzbarsky (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Alojzije Supraha (CRO)
Referee Liaison Officer: Matthew Johnson (WAL)

League A - Group 1
25 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Copenhagen, Parken 
DENMARK - FRANCE
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU) 
Fourth Official: Cătălin Popa (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Luc Wouters (BEL) 
UEFA Delegate: Aristeidis Stavropoulos (GRE) 
Referee Liaison Officer: Bill René Hansen (DEN)

League C - Group 1
25 September 2022, 20:45 CET - City of Luxembourg, Stade de Luxembourg 
LUXEMBOURG - LITHUANIA
Referee: Giorgi Kruashvili (GEO)
Assistant Referee 1: Levan Varamishvili (GEO)
Assistant Referee 2: Zaza Pipia (GEO)
Fourth Official: Aleko Aptsiauri (GEO)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Krzysztof Myrmus (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE) 
UEFA Delegate: Peter Oskam (NED)
Referee Liaison Officer: Alain Hamer (LUX)

League C - Group 1
25 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Tórshavn, Tórsvøllur
FAROE ISLANDS - TURKEY
Referee: Serhiy Boiko (UKR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dmytro Zaporozhenko (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Sergii Prystupa (UKR)
Fourth Official: Anatoliy Abdula (UKR)
Video Assistant Referee: Luca Pairetto (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mauro Galetto (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Kevin Parry (WAL) 
UEFA Delegate: Mark Bos (NED) 
Referee Liaison Officer: Eiler Rasmussen (FRO)

League B - Group 3
26 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Podgorica, Gradski Stadion 
MONTENEGRO - FINLAND 
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmoni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémy Stinat (FRA) 
Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pierre Gaillouste (FRA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Ahmet Erzurumlu (AZE)
Mentor for Delegate: Nebojša Ivković (SRB)
Referee Liaison Officer: Jovica Tatar (MNE)

League A - Group 3
26 September 2022, 20:45 CET - London, Wembley Stadium 
ENGLAND - GERMANY 
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED) 
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Sander Van Der Eijk (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jeroen Manschot (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Christopher Lautier (MLT) 
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP) 
Referee Liaison Officer: Adam Kenton (ENG)

League A - Group 3
26 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Budapest, Puskás Aréna
HUNGARY - ITALY 
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aurélien Berthomieu (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastien Dechepy (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Albano Janku (ALB) 
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)
Referee Liaison Officer: Gyöngyi Krisztína Gaál (HUN)

League B - Group 3
26 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Bucharest, Giulești Stadium 
ROMANIA - BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA 
Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR) 
Assistant Referee 1: Cevdet Komurcuoglu (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Ibrahim Çaglar Uyarcan (TUR)
Fourth Official: Yasar Kemal Ugurlu (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Viktor Shvetsov (UKR)
UEFA Delegate: Eugène Westerink (NED)
Referee Liaison Officer: Andrei Eugen Ioniță (ROU)

League D - Group 2
26 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Serravalle, San Marino Stadium 
SAN MARINO - ESTONIA 
Referee: Kateryna Monzul (UKR)
Assistant Referee 1: Maryna Striletska (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Svitlana Grushko (UKR)
Fourth Official: Anastasiya Romanyuk (UKR)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Niklas à Lídarenda (FRO)
UEFA Delegate: Duncan Fraser (SCO) 
Referee Liaison Officer: Francesco Mineo (SMR)

League C - Group 4
26 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Skopje, National Arena Todor Proeski
NORTH MACEDONIA - BULGARIA 
Referee: Julian Weinberger (AUT)
Assistant Referee 1: Maximilian Kolbitsch (AUT)
Assistant Referee 2: Michael Obritzberger (AUT)
Fourth Official: Alexander Harkam (AUT)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian-Petru Ciochirca (AUT)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alan Kijas (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Dennis Cruise (IRL) 
Referee Liaison Officer: Blagojče Naumovski (MKD)

League C - Group 4
26 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Gibraltar, Victoria Stadium 
GIBRALTAR - GEORGIA 
Referee: Robert Harvey (IRL) 
Assistant Referee 1: Robert Clarke (IRL) 
Assistant Referee 2: Wayne McDonnell (IRL)
Fourth Official: Paul Mclaughlin (IRL)
Video Assistant Referee: David Coote (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Constantine Hatzidakis (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nerijus Dunauskas (LTU)
UEFA Delegate: Jan Korinek (CZE)
Referee Liaison Officer: Denis Alvares (GIB)

League B - Group 1
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Krakow, Cracovia Stadium 
UKRAINE - SCOTLAND 
Referee: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Polychronis Kostaras (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Lazaros Dimitriadis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Aristotelis Diamantopoulos (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee: Aggelos Evamgelou (GRE)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ioannis Papadopoulos (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Victor Marius Radu (ROU) 
Referee Liaison Officer: TBC

League B - Group 1
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Dublin, Dublin Arena 
REPUBLIC OF IRELAND - ARMENIA 
Referee: Rade Obrenovic (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Grega Kordez (SVN) 
Fourth Official: David Smajc (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alen Borošak (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingvarsson (SWE) 
UEFA Delegate: Arturs Gaidels (LVA) 
Referee Liaison Officer: John Feighery (IRL)

League A - Group 2
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - St. Gallen, Arena St. Gallen 
SWITZERLAND - CZECH REPUBLIC 
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Amer Macić (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Miloš Gigovic (BIH)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alessandro Costanzo (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Sajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Styrbjörn Oskarsson (FIN)
Referee Liaison Officer: Claudio Bernold (SUI)

League A - Group 2
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Braga, Estádio Municipal
PORTUGAL - SPAIN 
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA) 
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Giorgio Peretti (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Kostadin Gerginov (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: Scott Struthers (SCO) 
Referee Liaison Officer: José Carlos Neves Ramalho (POR)

League B - Group 2
Match Cancelled 
RUSSIA - ISRAEL

League B - Group 4
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Solna, Friends Arena 
SWEDEN - SLOVENIA 
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Igor Satchi (MDA)
UEFA Delegate: Michał Listkiewicz (POL)
Referee Liaison Officer: Peter Ekström (SWE)

League B - Group 2
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Tirana, Arena Kombëtare
ALBANIA - ICELAND 
Referee: Ricardo De Burgos (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Iker De Francisco (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Jon Núñez (ESP)
Fourth Official: Pablo González (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: José Gonzalez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Riley (ENG) 
UEFA Delegate: Ghislaine Labbé (FRA)
Mentor for Delegate: Wolfgang Thierrichter (AUT)
Referee Liaison Officer: Erjon Bastari (ALB)

League C - Group 2
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Athens, Georgios Kamaras Stadium
GREECE - NORTHERN IRELAND 
Referee: Filip Glova (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Peter Bednar (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Polacek (SVK)
Fourth Official: Michal Ocenáš (SVK)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Domenico Messina (ITA) 
UEFA Delegate: Balázs Makray (HUN)
Referee Liaison Officer: TBC

League B - Group 4
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Oslo, Ullevaal Stadion
NORWAY - SERBIA
Referee: Antonio Mateu (ESP) 
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Del Palomar (ESP) 
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera (ESP) 
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernandez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Xavier Estrada (ESP) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Shmuel Shteif (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Repka (CZE) 
Referee Liaison Officer: Ola Bjørnsen (NOR)

League C - Group 2
27 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Pristina, Stadiumi Fadil Vokrri
KOSOVO - CYPRUS 
Referee: Kristo Tohver (EST) 
Assistant Referee 1: Silver Koiv (EST)
Assistant Referee 2: Sten Klaasen (EST) 
Fourth Official: Juri Frischer (EST)
Video Assistant Referee: Gianluca Aureliano (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dario Cecconi (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Ian Stokes (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Tugomir Frajman (SVN)
Referee Liaison Officer: Drilon Rexhepi (KOS)
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  1. Fortify 25 September 2022 at 12:42

    2 clips from yesterday match
    CYPRUS - GREECE Referee: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR) VAR:Bartosz Frankowski (POL)

    8' YC - possible SFP
    https://streamable.com/33l1ei

    87' disallowed goal for offside
    https://streamable.com/wyplm0

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    1. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 13:18

      Was there a VAR check for 87' incident, because I think regardless it might be a punishable position to offside, assessed by the GK's movements and the GK's reaction after that, I think there was also a goalkeeper error. Do you have long clip for 87' incident?

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    2. Fortify 25 September 2022 at 13:24

      Of course it was checked by VAR and they confirmed the field decision. This is a full clip, 10 seconds after the end of clip the game has restarted.

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    3. Chefren25 September 2022 at 15:41

      I think that in both videos decisions by Kulbakov crew are OK or at least supportable, 8' is not a 100% RC and for Kulbakov's standards, the YC at that time is something indeed remarkable, then about the disallowed goal, correct due to attacker's position almost in contact with keeper when the latter tries a save. Very often such situations are never reported live by assistant referees and VAR invites to OFR, in this case given that AR1 saw it, VAR could only confirm.

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    4. Xabi25 September 2022 at 16:13

      I agree with Kulbakov in both decisions.

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    5. Dukat19225 September 2022 at 17:54

      Agree, both decisions correct for me. Although the situation in 8' could have potentially had a much worse conclusion; luckily, it didn't and YC is OK IMO.

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  2. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 13:48

    We gonna have crazy tuesday with 7! games with direct rivals for winners and relegation. I know we got critics here when we comment this game as challenging hot games and then they tend to be more like friendly game. But I think in last round all teams will go all out and give 100 %. Can add to this games Hun-Ita which will be played tomorrow. And ofc this games are not like liga derbies but a I sure they will not be like friendly games .

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  3. K25 September 2022 at 13:57

    It might be interesting to highlight that the Head coach of the Netherlands has PRAISED the performance of Hernandez Hernandez. In his opinion, after 4 nations league games, HH was the first referee that dared to let play, that didn’t whistle every contact, hence allowed NED to play their high pressing game. Some referees blew the whistle as soon a pressed player decided to fall, as he realised there was no way out.

    I found it interesting to share this aspect, as his performance on this blog has been rated “mediocre”, too lenient, foul detection too inconsistent, and more (also by Dutch people!).

    Gil Manzano, on the other hand, was criticized on this blog for whistling too many fouls in ITAENG.

    This is just to highlight how “subjective” the (negative) comments could be, sometimes. Many opinions are formed based on personal preferences and the playing style of a team.

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    1. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 15:07

      Noticed that van Gaal send Collina and Wenger a letter to talk about the referee performances. He say that the pressing style of NL is made impossible by the strict behaviour of the referee. In the summer they had a videomeeting about it. Not sure if it was van Gaal with Wenger or Collina

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    2. Mikael W25 September 2022 at 15:59

      Because I'm sure Collina has nothing better to do than read a whinging nonsense letter from a coach... of course refereeing should remember it is 'their' game, not 'ours', and co-operation is very(!!) important, it is also important to know when to tell clubs/managers to **** off as well when they are talking complete crap.

      Btw there is nothing new about trying to lobby for the style of refereeing which suits you: whereas Italy lobbied for weak, pedantic Silva Valente for their WC1990 QF vs. physical Ireland team because they knew he would favour them, for the SF, they were desperate to have firm/strict Helmut Kohl, because he'd clamp down quickly on Argentina rough play. If Kohl reffed the game, I think Italy would probably have won. Instead, both teams accepted Vautrot. Same at USA 1994 with very politically tense SF Brazil vs. Sweden (Havelange vs. Johansson) - quite lenient Lamolina had the game, but Havelange removed him for strict law-enforcer Torres Cadena, as he would be harsher against more physical Sweden team. Colombian ref was 100% right to eject Jonas Thern, but I'm sure that Lamolina would only have given a yellow...

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    3. K25 September 2022 at 16:42

      I’m not talking about a whinging letter or a lobby, as I would never be a fan of that... I just tried to endorse how our opinions are formed.

      Personally I prefer a referee that allows to play (in a lawful manner), because this is the advantage of the team that plays nice football. Other people may support ultra defending teams and/or like the dark arts. Or a referees that issues a soft brave RC in the first minute. We shall respect each others opinion, but it’s good to realise that a negative feedback on this blog is not always truthful, as everybody has its preferences and that is totally fine.

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    4. Eric van Marwijk25 September 2022 at 16:45

      it's actually ridicilous that a fifa/uefa chairman has influence on the referee department, the refereedepartment should be actually completely neutral, without any national/fifa influence, and referees should be appointed by 1 former referee who is completely neutral, for exemple his own country doesn't play at worldcup, another idiotic thing form my taste is that national teams can vote against a referee.....iff i was the chairman of referees, and those things would happen, i would have retired long time ago!

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    5. Hans25 September 2022 at 16:47

      It was a teamsmeeting with Wenger. Van Gaal send him clips and the discussed it

      Source https://www.rtlxl.nl/programma/humberto-op-zondag 54:00 (only for Dutch)

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    6. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 17:01

      "for exemple his own country doesn't play at worldcup"
      So Collina is the right man for the job ;)

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    7. Mikael W25 September 2022 at 18:08

      My message wasn't aimed at you, K; apologies if it seemed the contrary.

      @Erik - I like Platini's statement during Les Arbitres, "I interfere with the refereeing, but not the referees". That is the correct approach IMO. Referees in top football *do* have a duty to serve football with the way that they handle the games, and it is right that football politicians discuss with the refs committee about what the officials will focus on during tournament x. The problem is when they interfere with marks/appmnts/etc, as we know they do.

      Weak instutitions encourage mediocrity, strong institutions encourage excellence!

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    8. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 18:45

      Crazy if they can eject a referee…

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    9. Eric van Marwijk26 September 2022 at 11:42

      Mikael, i fully agree with that statement, off course football politicians can discuss with refereedepartment where the focus must be.... thats normal, but more than that should not be possible!

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  4. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 15:07

    Andora-Latvia some very hard fouls in first 10 minutes. Can get ugly here if Papapetrou do not start showing som cards.

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  5. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 15:23

    We all do respect for crucial games I think as some mentioned before game Romania-Bosnia and Macedonia-Bulgaria can be very challenging. Will be nice test for Meler and Wienberger. Romania has huge internal problems and I expect them to be here very nervous as with draw or lose they will relegate. Bosnia will play with hungry B team. And Macedonia-Bulgaria can get ugly because of political problems.

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  6. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 16:46

    Before Latvia's 0-1 goal, the attacker was standing on the line of the penalty area at the moment of the goal kick execution. So the goal should not count, I think. And I would expect, that this is the first thing, VAR looks at.

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    1. Elliot25 September 2022 at 16:53

      VAR can't check restarts. Imo this is something that needs to be changed

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    2. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 16:58

      Even if it leads to a goal? Isn't the start of the APP reviewable?
      "this may include how the attacking team gained possession of the ball in open play" in the VAR protocol.
      Maybe a border case, unless there are clear instructions on it somewhere.

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    3. Elliot25 September 2022 at 17:09

      Maybe you're right, I think I've seen one or two similar situations were VAR didn't intervene and I just assumed that that was correct according to protocol

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  7. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 16:54

    I must give cred to Frappart when nobody support her in last period. Liechtenstien come out to play really hard again but with some quick yellow cards she calmed down them and after that had full control of the game. Even dissalowed very quick Moldova goal because of foul,correctly.

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  8. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 16:55

    Long (~3 min) VAR check confirming a disallowed goal by Moldova in 80'.
    Tight offside position and also interesting situation regarding deliberate play by the defender. IMO correct by new interpretation to deem it as not deliberate, but I have doubts about the actual offside position.
    Replay is shown in 84' - directly after a Moldova penalty appeal BTW.

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    1. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 17:10

      Followed only live text on uefa.com it said dissallowed goal because of foul. Appologize.

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    2. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 17:47

      Well it was an indirect free kick, Frappart signalled/said during the check, that it was a tight decision and there wasn't anything suspicious of a foul - so pretty sure the decision was offside.

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  9. Chefren25 September 2022 at 17:19

    https://streamable.com/a0kee7
    0-1 by Latvia against Andorra.
    Never seen VAR intervening for that, indeed, only referee should have spotted that.

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    1. usaref26 September 2022 at 20:57

      To be very clear, this is NOT directed at you Chefren, but to those above who think this shouldn't be a goal.

      But if anyone wants that goal to be annulled, they are insane. And if they want that goal to be annulled via VAR... well, can one be doubly insane?

      That's a mistake by the defense, period. Let's stipulate for a moment that the attacker is slightly inside the penalty area (I'm not even sure he is, but let's stipulate). So what? We think the difference of 10 cm is what turned this into a goal? As referees, we must have a feel for the game. Every player on Andorra hangs their head in disgust. No one appeals for encroachment. It is absolutely crazy to consider calling this. We see walls that are only 8.5 meters away all the time that block shots. Throw-ins taken from 2-3 meters in the wrong position that lead to attacking opportunities or goals. Free kicks taken from 2-3 meters from the wrong position. It's part of the game. All of that is part of the game. And, suddenly, we're going to annul goals that no one wants annulled because a toe was in the penalty area on a bad goal kick?

      I'm sorry, but this has to be said. Some of you here are absolutely losing the plot.

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  10. Fortify 25 September 2022 at 17:48

    https://streamable.com/hg45t5
    PA and disallowed goal for offside in Moldova

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    1. Euro Soccer Ref25 September 2022 at 18:21

      That's a clear foul, penalty to be given...

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    2. Chefren25 September 2022 at 18:35

      Definitely penalty to be whistled, play on is OK according to VAR in my opinion, but almost impossible to accept in reality. The strong contact by defender with attacker makes the latter colide against another opponent in a very dangerous way.

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    3. Dukat19225 September 2022 at 20:19

      Agree, clear penalty to be given. However, I think VAR should have intervened here, the defender was nowhere near the ball, just slammed into the defender.

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    4. Fortify 25 September 2022 at 20:30

      + 1

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    5. Xabi25 September 2022 at 23:44

      Very clear penalty

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  11. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 18:44

    Osmers with 4 yellow card and 1 red in first 35 minutes. Who could think this game would be this hot. Anybody watching? Should be nice to see red card situation? Does Osmers take it or VAR call?

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    1. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 18:53

      It was a double yellow in the same scene: First a reckless foul and then pushing the opponent to the ground. So Osmers showed Yellow, Yellow, Red to that player.

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    2. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 18:59

      Osmers looks very good. Most ref wolud be satisfied with only one yellow here, but this kind of situation makes difference if you will be elite referee or not. I think Germany have good future in Stegemann,Osmers and Schlager.

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    3. Quilava25 September 2022 at 19:08

      Azerbaijan vs Kazakhstan? I definitely WOULD think it could be this hot :D

      RC for KAZ3 was correct, it wasn't VAR intervention but two consecutive YCs, one for a reckless tackle and another one for pushing an opponent in his chest (+YC for Azeri GK who ran to confront the Kazakh player)

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  12. F25 September 2022 at 18:56

    Sorry to bother you. Can you remind who belong to the Uefa talent program ? Or can you post it on top right of web sire close to the list of categories? It's like a sub category

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    1. bmb (Hun)25 September 2022 at 21:38

      Gergő Bogár (Hungary); Enea Jorgji (Albnia); Filip Glova (Slovakia); Allard Lindhout (Netherlands); Harm Osmers (Germany); Rohit Saggi (Norway); Anastasios Papapetrou (Greece); Manfredas Lukjančukas (Lithuania); Sebastian Gishamer (Austria); Dario Bel (Croatia); Morten Krogh (Denmark)

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  13. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 19:02

    Slovakian goal in 33' disallowed after a very long VAR check and OFR (4:30 min after the goal), for a clear handball in the APP, which apparently was difficult to detect / to be sure about.
    So correct decision, but process was too long.

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    1. Quilava25 September 2022 at 19:09

      Yes, only one Belarus player saw the handball and complained about it so it was difficult to see for them.

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    2. Chefren25 September 2022 at 19:09

      I can only watch live sequence for now, without replays, and indeed impossible to see any handball :D

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    3. Fortify 25 September 2022 at 20:27

      https://streamable.com/wlmr2y
      this link is not full HD, maybe in full HD is more clear, I can't detect a handball here tbh

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    4. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 20:43

      I think, there is a clear change of direction of the ball from falling down to flying nearly horizontal, where only the blue player's arm could have caused that. So I am 90% sure about the handball. But I understand, that one can have doubts.

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    5. Dukat19225 September 2022 at 22:14

      Agree with Philipp on this one, the change of ball trajectory could have only been caused by contact with the Slovakian player's arm, which is punishable handball for me. It seems like a very good spot by the VAR crew (I also haven't detected anything watching the live sequence).

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  14. Quilava25 September 2022 at 19:11

    Re: Osmers in AZE-KAZ.

    Am I the only one who thinks that YC for KAZ20 (reckless challenge) in 29' could have been a straight RC for VC (tackle as an attack)?

    It could have prevented the correct sending off of KAZ3 five minutes later.

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    1. Mikael W25 September 2022 at 19:49

      RC would be an excellent call but I'm still fine with YC personally, the ball is still kind of 'there' in the duel. The big problem is that Osmers is the 'loser' of the scene, KAZ no.20 is more interested in confronting an opponent than his YC, and then he walks off. The German doesn't arouse any respect there.

      Similar speech can be made about the (correct, actually mandatory) SYC. Another referee could have easily prevented the retaliation by stepping in, but Osmers just lacks that presence. I must be honest: despite his best attempts, I don't see a referee with the skills (which should be) required to be in the Elite category of UEFA...

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    2. Fortify 25 September 2022 at 20:29

      29' https://streamable.com/i289ma reckless / VC ?
      36' https://streamable.com/ihec6u double YC

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    3. Fortify 25 September 2022 at 20:32

      now I'm going to the pitch. see you after the match :)

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    4. Chefren25 September 2022 at 20:55

      29': YC is OK, no VAR stuff, assessing it as RC is more about the intentions than the reality and I think we can't go too far away in this case.
      36': Osmers in my opinion couldn't do anything different than what he did. Once whistled the foul, very clear YC, then pushing another player means second YC.
      About the argument by Mikael, to show a strong presence to prevent the possible second YC, I must say very difficult to expect this from a German referee. I think they just prefer to wait and take decisions. I can remember many and many cards given with delay, and I want again to say that's because in Bundesliga they can do that... remember Osmers at Under 21, the game Italy - Spain was very clear about that.

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    5. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 21:01

      Watched this clipps with double yellow from Osmers and i don't understand how do you think he could prevent this push from Kazal player? He went to players quickly showed the yellow and then sudeen push. And in all this mess he correctly gives yellow to keeper because he is out of his area.29 min yellow only is correct and even there he goes to players very quickly shows csrd and calm down situation.He is only 37 and with referees like Sanchez,Kruzliak,Kulbakov,Serdar,Stieler in elitee I see no reason why Osmers should not earn elite under his last 4,5 seasons. This small nations are very tough for refs, you could see today in first 4 games over 25 cards. Compare to Spain or Portugal game with almost no foul. I really like his progress and see him as German number one in 3,4 years period. Brych would handled this situation the same.

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    6. Dukat19225 September 2022 at 22:03

      29': I understand the point of view about the possible RC (and agree with it theoretically, based on the player's intention), however YC is fully OK and expected decision here, IMO.

      36': I fully agree with Mikael here, but at the same time, I do not want to blame Osmers too much. Personally, this is about feeling the interpersonal tension between the two players, something brewing and boiling "below surface" and becoming ready to "explode". If a referee lacks that fine feeling, then this is everything he/she can do (it's the same in some other professions, e.g. police). On a technical level, Osmers did everything right here and should be praised for not ignoring the shove by the Kazakh player and settling with one YC only (YC for the GK was spot on too).

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  15. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 20:25

    A few insignificant observers out….

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  16. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 20:53

    Quite an interesting situation in WALPOL, AR2 signaled an offside which seemed to be wrong and quite immediately Polish player found himself in a goal scoring opportunity. Referee whistled too quick and killed the situation - it would be expected to keep cold head and delay the whistle even when AR raises the flag in a game with VAR

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    1. Philipp S25 September 2022 at 21:07

      Looked bad, but at the moment of the flag the attack wasn't existing and then emerged from nothing, therefore understandable, how that happened.

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  17. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 21:34

    Clear missed yellow card in wales poland. Clear shirt pull stopping attack

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  18. M25 September 2022 at 21:38

    Not convincing Treimanis,very lenient style that so far is not working.

    Now at the end clear shirt pullinf off the ball aka.Chiffi style,and even that was not enough for him to brandish YC.

    So far 2 clear bookings,but he is making game tense with his style of refereeing.

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  19. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 21:46

    This is standard Triemanis. Take a look at his statistics in Europe, almost 90% of his cards come last 30 minutes of the game. Incredible lenient style some referee have in first half. It has to be almost for red card if they are gonna give yellow in first half. Kulbakov,Gozboyek,Sanchez,Massa,Mariani like this approach to.

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    1. M25 September 2022 at 21:53

      Thats one of the many reasons why these refs will never reach heights that their former and active coleagues reached-Makkelie,Lahoz,Orsato,Rizzoli and others

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  20. Euro Soccer Ref25 September 2022 at 21:47

    Well, the Latvian crew offered a very poor performance in the first half of WALPOL. It was very close to be completely out of control (de facto it was, around 30'). Treimanis couldn't find a line for foul selection, whistling some soft FKs against WAL what led to many dissenting behaviours he couldn't cope with in any way. Add to that some missed fouls and three mandatory cards (16' - reckless tackle by 11WAL, 20' - reckless use of arm by 14WAL, 30' - blatant delaying the restart by 5POL involving even a push in face) and suboptimal handling of borderline incidents (24' - illegal use of arm and subsequent holding, 45+2' - off the ball push, 45+2' - holding) and dissents. AR2 with two mistakes, too. Fortunately, things calmed down a little bit at the end of the first half but surely not thanks to referees.

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    1. Euro Soccer Ref25 September 2022 at 23:03

      The second half started with a mandatory YC for late trailing leg tackle close to AR2 (47'). Then, some borderline incidents that didn't help in controlling the game, like play-on call after impeding/illegal use of arm by 15POL (51'), no disciplinary sanctions to 16WAL after late challenge/kick (63'), 3WAL after simulation in penalty area (64') and 13POL after blatant delaying the restart (75', shocking to let it go unpunished, imo). In the meantime, two off-the-ball charging offences let go in 70' and 77'. In 87', mandatory YC to 18POL shown after SPA offence. In 89', missed YC for LoR holding to POL player (didn't notice the number). Four minutes later, a mass confrontation after foul and provocative behaviour of 9WAL and subsequent reaction by 15POL - both players correctly cautioned. In 90+4', two cases of dissent shown at first by Polish and then by furious Welsh player who was finally cautioned (it seems you have to furiously run towards Treimanis to get a YC for dissent though, many cases of undermining the referee's authority throughout the whole game...).

      Well, I saw Treimanis in Elite two years ago but now he is very far from achieving it with such performances... This performance was a negation of what was told to referees at the summer course.

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    2. Anonymous26 September 2022 at 00:54

      Always attacking Treimanis... :)

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    3. Unknown26 September 2022 at 01:19

      Feel free @Anonymous to argue Euro Soccer Ref’s opinion, but please use arguments observations instead of a single empty phrase…

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    4. Unknown26 September 2022 at 01:20

      *arguments and observations

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    5. Anonymous26 September 2022 at 02:26

      Fully disagree with Euro Soccer Rer, looke like he never whistle any game in his life, but try to be super expert in refereeing.
      I will pass my arguments with you maximum objective
      1 st half: 20min very borderline situation, but if we consider importance of the match,we could support referee decision.30min. blatant delaying- soccer boy are you serious ? delaying in 30min, how it possible, what of reasons of POL team to delaying????
      Why you are not mentioned two correct YC in first half? Because you are not objective.
      AR2-what mistake? we could discussing about situation at 29min, but still supportable

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    6. Anonymous26 September 2022 at 02:34

      2nd half: 47min-YC excellent , help from AR1 ( not AR2), again Euro Soccer you don't understand diference between AR1 and AR2??? or what, why you deceive blog readers.
      Please clips about 51, 63, 64, 77 and 89 situations? Watching the match on TV I didn't saw such incident, what I you mentioned. This is your fantasy....
      Please next time be objective or be silence.

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    7. Anonymous26 September 2022 at 02:40

      My opinion Treimanis with his team did a very good match, with some point for improvement, as always could discussing about one or two YC, but in modern football this is acceptable. Seems Treimanis recovered and ready to show his best perfomance and possible to reach Elite. Lets following him at next appointments

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    8. Anonymous26 September 2022 at 08:44

      So i start reading that there was a match in chaos and with 5-7 missed yellow cards. Interesting as i also watched a match and saw things under control and in normal manner for such match.

      Took some time to make a vid of mentioned incidents to protect the image of refereeing and be kind enough to show the credibility expertiese of mr Beach Soccer Ref so next time who want can skip these comments.

      All 7 YC given were mandatory (no need to show because correct decision are boring right?) and it was a difficult match. It was handled in a totally normal manner. Not anything special nor anything bad.

      Yes there are maybe a few missed YC-s, but nothing big. Missing a card is part of the game in such matches.

      And starting with YC-s in situations 16' and 30' is a refereeing suicide in that level of football. Maybe it different in Beach Soccer?

      https://www.veed.io/view/79a81010-bc48-4aee-8417-646ea1200b2f

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    9. Euro Soccer Ref26 September 2022 at 09:01

      Yes, in 47' it was AR1's advice, simple typo. About the rest of your insulting comments, well, I will leave it to other people to judge what is your agenda...

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    10. Anonymous26 September 2022 at 09:13

      A Polish guy praising Marciniak to the skies writing about other people's agenda :D

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    11. Euro Soccer Ref26 September 2022 at 09:50

      If you were here for more than one day, you would have been able to see that, despite being a Pole, I never blindly praised Marciniak or anyone else. I can ensure my comments are not targeted at anyone, neither to destroy nor make a referee better than he is. I report what I see in games basing on what is required from top officials by UEFA RefCom.

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    12. Mikael W26 September 2022 at 10:31

      I watched the 2H myself yesterday with friends and just saw the compilation posted on Veed - both M and Euro Soccer Ref were *absolutely correct* in their assessment of this performance. Easily comparable to Brych's famous BELPOR at EURO.

      Referee's mark should be in 7,5 - 7,7 region honestly...

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    13. Dukat19226 September 2022 at 13:31

      Fully agree with Mikael here. After reading the comments above, I took some time to watch the footage of the match and Euro Soccer Ref was perfectly right in his posts and I agree with him.

      The language and tone of some anonymous comments in this thread are unacceptable for a dignified discussion. We can all agree or disagree on specific refereeing matters, but wrongly accusing someone of having an agenda against a referee or trying to deceive the readers is something seriously wrong to do. I see absolutely no evidence of any of these things in Euro Soccer Ref's posts.

      Last but not least, I would be more than happy to see Treimanis, or any other referee, genuinely succeed on the highest level, as I'm sure most of the contributors of this blog would. But that doesn't mean we cannot share our opinions about specific situations and performances, nor does it mean that sharing such opinions represents an agenda against referees. It's quite the opposite actually.

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  21. M25 September 2022 at 22:39

    And now big scuffle at the end,as expected...

    Glik and Johnson were involved...

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  22. Anonymous25 September 2022 at 23:10

    @euro soccer referee, Thank you very much for your analys of both half, best analys I read here. This is really apprecieted by everyone and we learn a lot. I like how you address latvian team and not only Triemanis. Half of this missed cards should be spotted from his assistens but they did not intervented once. Check situation today when Carrasco simulate how Taylor got help from his assistent and then gives a yellow for simulation and not freekick for Carasco. AR1 and AR2 are very important.

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    1. Euro Soccer Ref25 September 2022 at 23:51

      Thank you for appreciation!

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    2. Anonymous26 September 2022 at 02:35

      Please clips in what situation ARs must to help with cards, based on the UEFA guidelines. Not only talking

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  23. matei1425 September 2022 at 23:22

    I am curious for a report of Kovacs's performance in Denmark-France. I saw about 2/3 of the game, with pauses, so I missed in total about 30 minutes. From what I saw it was a solid performance, but I am looking for the opinion of a person who watched the game from beggining to the end. Thx in advance.

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    1. Upstylon25 September 2022 at 23:34

      Good performance in a easy game, two mandatory YCs for blatant SPA and reckless stamp given, no problems. He had a quiet evening.

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    2. bmb26 September 2022 at 01:14

      I watched the whole game. 2 well behaved teams helped make it an easy game for Kovács, who was superb. Decision making spot on and consistent. Great rapport with the players, a few chatty moments and smiles. Positioning decent. As Upsylon mentioned two mandatory YCs for blatant SPA and reckless stamp given, no problems. Both ARs on top form. Team Ref contributed positively to a decent game and they will be happy with their performance.

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    3. Kmk26 September 2022 at 07:06

      Great referee 🙌🏼

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  24. Chefren26 September 2022 at 05:54

    Friendly Under 21
    26/09
    Italy - Japan
    Sanchez Martinez (ESP)
    Cabanero Martinez (ESP) - Lopez Mir (ESP)
    Dionisi (ITA)

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    1. Euro Soccer Ref27 September 2022 at 14:49

      26/09
      France U21 - Belgium U21
      Alessandro Dudic (SUI)
      Pascal Hirzel (SUI) - Susanne Küng (SUI)
      Marc Bollengier (FRA)

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  25. Mikael W26 September 2022 at 09:58

    I've just woken up this morning and I am absolutely furious having read the personal attacks above. Anonymous comments have been indefinitely suspended as a result; I'm sorry for all users who use this function respectfully, I'd politely point you towards creating a google account (is quite quick/easy tbf). This person in particular should especially should know MUCH better as well, extremely disappointed as blog admin to see such behaviour.

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    1. Chefren26 September 2022 at 11:34

      +1
      My full solidarity to Euro Soccer Referee!

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    2. Dukat19226 September 2022 at 13:41

      +1
      Unfortunately, I have to thank you for this decision. It is sad to know some quality anonymous contributions will be lost, but boundaries of good taste have been crossed in some of those comments far too much.

      I shall use this comment also as a suggestion to anyone willing to contribute on this blog to create their Google account. I have been a silent reader of this blog (and the old one) for 8 years before starting to post and I can assure you that it's a much more complete experience for me now.

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    3. Robin26 September 2022 at 22:26

      Absolutely shameful by anon. Fully respect the decision to ban anonymity. Clear up-sides as well, it will now be much easier to follow threads with multiple writing parties.

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  26. EnglandREF26 September 2022 at 14:11

    Anyone know who is refereeing Brazil vs Tunisia tomorrow?

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  27. Scandinavian Referee26 September 2022 at 14:20

    +1, best choice ever Mikael. It took me 30 seconds to make account and it looks much better if there is name behind. Second, full support to our great Euro Soccer, re watched his game in the morning and he was spot on everything. Even if he is wrong every one of us has own opinion. Like many here I have been silent reader of this blog and truly appreciete members lie Euro Ref,Miakel,Chefren,Matei 14,M ,etc who give us insight in elite referee world.

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  28. Chefren26 September 2022 at 15:15

    Observers for next week's CL MD3 games:

    Bayern - Plzen
    Roberto Rosetti (ITA)

    Marseille - Sporting
    Costas Kapitanis (GRE)

    Ajax - Napoli
    Tomasz Mikulski (POL)

    Liverpool - Rangers
    Peter Sippel (GER)

    Porto - Leverkusen
    Kyros Vassaras (GRE)

    Club Brugge - Atlético Madrid
    Drago Kos (SVN)

    Inter - Barcelona
    Marinus Koopman (NED)

    Eintracht Frankfurt - Tottenham
    Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)

    Salzburg - Dinamo Zagreb
    Raymond Ellingham (WAL)

    Leipzig - Celtic
    Vladimir Sajn (SVN)

    Chelsea - Milan
    Konrad Plautz (AUT)

    Real Madrid - Shakhtar Donetsk
    Jan W. Wegereef (NED)

    Manchester City - Copenhagen
    TBA

    Sevilla - Dortmund
    Frank De Bleeckere (BEL)

    Benfica - PSG
    Dejan Filipovic (SRB)

    Juventus - Maccabi Haifa
    Lutz Michael Fröhlich (GER)

    So, again a game of group F with Sajn and, maybe most important, Rosetti in Munich for Bayern - Plzen. Which Category 1 will be there?
    He already observerd him, otherwise I would have said Rumsas.
    Possible to see the Lithuanian in group F with Sajn.
    Important observers in other games as well, starting from Porto.

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    1. Euro Soccer Ref26 September 2022 at 20:50

      It's Velasco Carballo for Man. City - Copenhagen.

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  29. M26 September 2022 at 15:37

    Also,not just Bastien,but I think that Julian Weinberger tonight will also have tough match and if he has his lenient style,it can go very easily wrong for him.

    Two balkan teams,neighbours that had some political disputes in recent times.

    Also,this match is important for Bulgaria to be in higher pot for upcoming Euro Quali.draw so I just want to point out that Austrian crew can be in for a tough match if they dont use right approach.

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  30. Scandinavian Referee26 September 2022 at 16:09

    @M, I just reading that it can be some tense in Skopje tonight because we can call it some political dispute. Fans were fury against away team in interviews before the game,as late as in july this year Bulgaria stopped Eu process for North Macedonia. Add to that very bad weather conditions, heavy rain in Skopje tonight so it can fast get very ugly here. Now to referee Weinberger, it is very unproven referee and I am really surprised why Rosetti send him to such tense match. If he is lenient like Triemanis,Kulbakov in first half he will be in problem for sure. I have not see this referee many times in action but from stats only he does not look to be lenient, avg 4.50 cards per game which is a lot for Austria. But seems like all of his cards come in last 15 minutes of the game which is very strange(and many cards for the coaches).

    Another very hot game tonight nobody has mentioned is Monte Negro-FInland, game for second place or relegation for away team. Same here very tough weather condition, with heavy rain and bad pitch. But for me very good referee here even if only 33 years in Letexier (probably best young referee in the Europe). So I m sure he will have no problems to handle this game.

    About Bastien I am not sure this will be that challenging game as many think. Sure stake is big but this teams plays clean and everyone will be watching this game so I do not expect any dirty game. Anyway Bastien is solid with huge experience and can handle it.

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    1. HH26 September 2022 at 18:39

      Romania-Bosnia will be probably the hottest match.

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  31. Promo26 September 2022 at 20:20

    Can anybody tell about Artur Dias performance in AUS-CRO?

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    1. M26 September 2022 at 20:47

      Ok,8.3.

      Two penalty appeals that were righly rejected,quickly regaining match control with 4 bookings in 15 minutes.

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    2. Dukat19226 September 2022 at 21:39

      I can confirm M's assessment fully. Not a difficult game for Dias, but full control and acceptance.

      Budimir's penalty appeal (I can't remember the exact minute, I'm sorry) is quite interesting: he tried to bounce from the defender to win it. Very good play on decision by Dias; it may seem easy, but I've seen plenty of situations with the referee deceived like that.

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  32. Euro Soccer Ref26 September 2022 at 20:48

    Observers

    UEL
    Sturm - Lazio: Božinovski
    Sheriff - Real Sociedad: Jovanetić
    Omonia - Man. United: Liba
    Zürich - PSV: Antonov
    HJK - Ludogorets: Duhamel
    Malmö - Union Berlin: Garibian
    Crvena zvezda - Ferencváros: Nobs
    Monaco - Trabzonspor: Trefoloni
    Midtjylland - Feyenoord: Tritsónis
    Arsenal - Bodø/Glimt: Parreira de Castro
    Rennes - Dynamo Kyiv: Paniashvili
    Fenerbahçe - AEK Larnaca: Orrason
    Roma - Betis: Kassai
    Braga - St Gilloise: Mažić
    Olympiacos - Qarabağ: Svilokos
    Freiburg - Nantes: Sant

    UECL
    Anderlecht - West Ham: Chato Ciprés
    Silkeborg - FCSB: Alseth
    Lech - H. Beer-Sheva: Bossen
    Slovácko - Nice: Carlsen
    Dnipro-1 - Vaduz: Yordanov
    Molde - Shamrock Rovers: Meßner
    Sivasspor - Ballkani: Slyva
    Pyunik - Žalgiris: Tóth
    Hearts - Fiorentina: Jens Larsen
    RFS - İstanbul Başakşehir: Przesmycki
    Villarreal - Austria Wien: Direktorenko
    Köln - Partizan: Whitby
    AZ Alkmaar - Apollon: Undiano Mallenco
    Gent - Djurgården: Vidlák
    Slavia Praha - CFR Cluj: Hovhannisyan
    Basel - Slovan Bratislava: Asumaa

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  33. Chefren26 September 2022 at 20:49

    Just a few seconds and Bastien is surrounded by Italian players for having whistled a free kick for handball at the edge of penalty area...

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  34. Scandinavian Referee26 September 2022 at 21:05

    As I mentioned earlier today MN-Finland and NM-Bulgaria will be very very hot games .I have to praise here both referee as they have guts to take this reds so early for home teams. Both correct decisions.

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  35. M26 September 2022 at 21:05

    What happened in Montenegro?

    4 yellows and 1 red in 20 minutes...

    Also already RC in Macedonia match...

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    1. SCOREREF26 September 2022 at 21:10

      Correct 2YC for MNE6

      Good management with other cards in game.

      In Macedonia correct RC FOR MKD2 for SFP

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  36. SCOREREF26 September 2022 at 21:08

    conditions are shocking in Montenegro.

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  37. Chefren26 September 2022 at 21:12

    https://streamja.com/11E73
    Straight RC in North Macedonia.
    Absolutely correct decision, but I never liked such behavior by referee, checking at first injured player before then deciding for the card. He should go directly with red card to player, otherwise it looks you are unsure.

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    1. Dukat19226 September 2022 at 21:26

      Very good decision. And I agree with you regarding card procedure, it gives the impression that the referee is deciding based on the condition of the injured player, which should be avoided. Of course, we are not talking about potential serious medical situations, where everything else has to wait.

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  38. Quilava26 September 2022 at 21:14

    Both Letexier & Weinberger have already given a RC before 20'. Any info/clip?

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  39. Chefren26 September 2022 at 21:16

    Georgia - Gibraltar: very clear penalty whistled by Harvey without hesitation .
    https://streamja.com/o7QmP

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  40. Chefren26 September 2022 at 21:19

    Montenegro - Finald, very clear second YC for reckless challenge.
    https://streamja.com/20ERr
    Extreme weather conditions...

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    1. Dukat19226 September 2022 at 21:33

      Agree, very good decision. However, pitch conditions are really bad, it could result in some nasty challenges and potential injuries.

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  41. Ref_170726 September 2022 at 21:24

    Possible penalty for Germany in 32' (holding) not given by Makkelie. It did not look like the holding stopped before the penalty area. If Makkelie gave the penalty, England would not be in the position to complain about the whistle... Probably still supportable, but rather a penalty than not.

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  42. SCOREREF26 September 2022 at 21:25

    Correct VAR intervention in Rom Bos to award Romania goal. Very poor onfield decision by AR2 to call that offside. Well on

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  43. Filip_MNE26 September 2022 at 21:26

    Letexier losing control of the match with to many cards at the beginning. Players from both teams nervous now

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    1. Scandinavian Referee26 September 2022 at 22:18

      He did not lose control. He will get 8.6 from his observer Gonzales Vazques. All cards were mandatory and it was clean game after 20 minute thanks to this cards. Letexier is best young referee in the world, only 33 years. I see in you nick that you are from MNE so maybe not neutral here.

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  44. HH26 September 2022 at 21:36

    is anyone watching Umut Meler? Is he doing a good job?

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  45. M26 September 2022 at 21:37

    Bastien okayish so far,but with his style,anytime he can lose control of this match.

    But so far,so good.

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  46. Chefren26 September 2022 at 21:41

    Bastien: good first half.
    Key moments: free kick at the beginning, complaints by Italian players, but correct decision for me, then possible penalty before 0-1 by Italy but goal annulled everything before, and finally the YC in the added time, a player from Hungary grabbed the opponent for the shirt in a very blatant (and dangerous) way, because he thought he had simulated. A behavior that was very close to RC for violent conduct, given the particular action, you will see the video...
    Also, a minor penalty appeal by Italy but nothing serious to be mentioned.
    Extremely challenging atmoshpere in Budapest.

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  47. Fortify 26 September 2022 at 21:43

    Bastien very good at the first half. Easy game till now, not very challenging, 2 step on foot 16' and 23' not mandatory YC IMO

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    1. Scandinavian Referee26 September 2022 at 21:50

      Agree not mandatory cards so early in such big game. He gives cards in ligue 1 for this step on foot but I am ok with no cards here seen to all picture about this game and publicity. Also the RC situation if it was ligue1 where he is sheriff it would be red card for sure.But still all in all solid half. Great atmoshpere in Budapest.

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  48. Scandinavian Referee26 September 2022 at 21:44

    I watched Meler, friendly game so far. He and his Ar2 showed very quick it was offside with the goal for Romania even it was onside at least half meter which VAR corrected. But otherwise nothing to report, Bosnia with not single one first team player, come here as it is some friendly game. Romania was very close for both 2 and 3-0.

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  49. Pedro Irmatov26 September 2022 at 21:51

    Love Harvey, such an excellent referee. About time Ireland get a Champions League referee.

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  50. Ecosse26 September 2022 at 21:57

    Penalty Germany after OFR. Good intervention

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  51. Zwayerbrazil26 September 2022 at 21:58

    Guys, Makkelie, an world class referee needed var to mark a obvious penalty like on ENG X GER it's smth incredible.

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  52. Ref_170726 September 2022 at 22:00

    Correct OFR leading to penalty for Germany. Clear foul. Makkelie's position was actually quite good, he immediately rejected the calls for the penalty. Makkelie only needed one replay to change his decision in front of the monitor. A foul you must see on the pitch, comparable to Siebert's miss.

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  53. Davidcrammond26 September 2022 at 22:18

    Good spot the AR to award England the first goal.

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    1. TB_26 September 2022 at 22:22

      I'm a bit confused about the AR1 signalling, shouldn't he raise the flag and then sprint to the middle line? On the replay I saw AR1 signalling it by throw-in signal.

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    2. Davidcrammond26 September 2022 at 22:25

      Unless he went to the line after the camera cut away

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  54. Chefren26 September 2022 at 22:22

    The penalty after OFR in England - Germany.
    https://dubz.co/v/895a5w
    Trying to understand why Makkelie didn't whistle, I think it is possible he assessed the contact as soft at first glance, then rewatched it and he was convinced about penalty.

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    1. Dukat19226 September 2022 at 23:25

      Really clear penalty, with Makkelie seemingly in good position to assess it. I can't really find any excuse here: Ref_1707 is right in his comment above, this is comparable to Siebert's miss a few days ago.

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  55. Chefren26 September 2022 at 22:25

    Now in 78' the match becomes challenging for Bastien.
    Possible penalty for Hungary and then many protests.
    It was a push that Bastien assessed as soft / didn't see at all.
    Correct to support by VAR but very borderline, in reality it looked a penalty to be whistled.

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    1. Robin26 September 2022 at 22:33

      I fully support the no-call. Contact is soft and for me the attacker anticipates the contact and falls over.

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    2. bmb27 September 2022 at 00:08

      He literally shoved Ádám over with one hand while waving the other about to say look Im not touching him! That should have been a penalty. I don't like Bastien's style at all but aside of that very subjective call he was reasonable.

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  56. Mate26 September 2022 at 22:26

    How can Makkelie award the English goal in such a poor way. He is turning is back to the AR, and at the same time the AR who is involved in the action, correctly "make a signal", but this signal is not correct according with the LOTG. ok ok ok... they have the Goal Line Technology... I know, but anyway the should have followed the correct procedure. It wasn´t a good example for the refereeing schools.

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  57. Mate26 September 2022 at 22:28

    another clear PK not given in the pitch. Correct OFR.
    Terrible night by Makkelie.

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    1. GRef26 September 2022 at 22:45

      Sorry but every game of Makkelie is nightmare to watch.

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    2. Krokus7326 September 2022 at 23:24

      Don't write like that, because admins will block you. You can write well about Makkelie here, or not at all

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    3. Unknown26 September 2022 at 23:38

      Welcome back Krokus73, long time no see! Fiiiinally an occasion to criticize Makkelie and you’re popping up again :) What a wonderful and positive character you are! Will we have the pleasure of hearing from you again soon or do we have to wait for the next time Makkelie makes a mistake?

      Having said that, of course this was not a good night for Makkelie but ey, don’t we all have a bad day every now and then?

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    4. Krokus7327 September 2022 at 00:04

      :D Well, in fact, my character is evidenced by the lack of idolatrous adoration for Makkelie

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    5. Zwayerbrazil27 September 2022 at 01:02

      Unknown, go see if Zwayer, if Turpin, and many others have a bad night here... Just stones on them ;)

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    6. Unknown27 September 2022 at 05:30

      @Zwayerbrazil So what is your point? Makkelies mistakes are being discussed here too right? Luckily he doesn’t show performances like this very often.

      And if you want to talk about Zwayer, fine! The problem with Zwayer is that he had bad nights like this time over time over time. And then we’re not talking about missing 2 penalties, but losing control, not being accepted by players, lack of personality etc.

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    7. Zwayerbrazil27 September 2022 at 11:45

      First things first, calm down
      Second, no I'm not saying about Felix I know he had this problems but as you just said everyone had a bad day or because its felix this dont work out?. I'm saying as a whole, just because of the name you come to wrong conclusion.

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  58. Ecosse26 September 2022 at 22:29

    Another penalty after OFR in London. For me this was actually clearer than the last one. Could have potentially been a RC as well

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    1. TB_26 September 2022 at 22:29

      If it was more dynamic, clear RC, but because the distance was very small, I think YC is correct.

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  59. Zwayerbrazil26 September 2022 at 22:30

    Other penalty that could have been spotted without var. What's happening with Danny?

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  60. Chefren26 September 2022 at 22:31

    Romania - Bosnia and Herzegovina, first goal.
    The AR mistake, and maybe also referee interfering with play? Not clear, a longer sequence would be needed.
    https://streamin.me/v/4bdc762d

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    1. GRef26 September 2022 at 22:47

      Cant see an offside here. Referee is not playing the ball. its the player behind him and the ball just goes very close to him but no play.

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  61. Ref_170726 September 2022 at 22:31

    Next OFR, this time penalty for England to be given. In my view, it should have given a RC for SFP too, but it seems like Makkelie did not want to go so far. Studs up, hitting the opponent's shin, high force. Not very easy to detect on the pitch, but one could expect a high class referee to evaluate such an incident correctly without VAR intervention. Honestly speaking, Makkelie seems a bit unconcentrated today.

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  62. Chefren26 September 2022 at 22:32

    86' in HUN-ITA, possible RC for SFP. Bastien gave YC for reckless challeng, in this game surely a different approach by the French if compared to his previous appearances.

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  63. Chefren26 September 2022 at 22:41

    Difficult to make a judgment about the real performance by Bastien.
    Most interesting situation because potentially very crucial for the game was the possible penalty for Hungary, he didn't whistle it and game became by far more challenging. However I think he ensured always a certain control and his performance was OK, but no more than that. The sensation is that, in case of even more difficult game, referee could have lost it. Let's see how much this possible penalty will be discussed, about the rest he was rather lenient than strict, differently from previous games, as said. Could have issued at least one if not two red cards due to players behavior.

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    1. M26 September 2022 at 23:30

      I dont think it will be that discised cause Hungary have only themselves and Donnaruma to blame for all thos chances where they couldnt capitalize.

      As for non penalty, in real time it looked like it was, but supportable call,as we saw backeb by VAR.

      His style was not so much lenient,but adaptable I would say.
      He understood the significance of this game and tried to stay in the shadow as much as he could,unlike his previous UEFA performances.

      It was weird seeing him like this,I enjoy more his regular style of refereeing ,but hey,it was as you said ,OK performance...

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    2. bmb27 September 2022 at 00:15

      Won't be discussed in Hungary. It's been mentioned, shrugged about and moved on from already. We lost because of atrocious defending for the first goal and Italy's goalie having an absolute worldy of a performance. Marco Rossi said nothing about it after the game, he mentioned the Italy goalie, congratulated Italy & said they deserved the win and then talked about Szalai Ádám and what a loss our kapitány will be.

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  64. Chefren26 September 2022 at 22:46

    Still couldn't watch the second OFR in England - Germany...

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  65. Scandinavian Referee26 September 2022 at 22:52

    @Anthony , can we have video for this two penalty missed by Makkelie and possible red card and Bastien possible red card minute 45 and minute 87 and no penalty in minute 78 for Hungary. Thank you.

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    1. Chefren26 September 2022 at 22:55

      The video of first OFR in England is above

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    2. Fortify 26 September 2022 at 22:55

      https://streamable.com/aq84ok
      Second PK

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    3. Fortify 26 September 2022 at 22:59

      I will post them in 20 min i hope. They are not uploaded yet in WS

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    4. Chefren26 September 2022 at 23:07

      Thank you for all your work, Anthony.
      This was quite difficult to spot for Makkelie because he was in movement with his head, as you can see from the video, he should have watched there at the exact moment of the challenge, something that you can miss, totally different from first incident. I agree with YC, not a 100% RC and UEFA will agree on that.

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    5. Euro Soccer Ref26 September 2022 at 23:09

      Hmm, I'm surprised that having a possibility to watch a replay, Makkelie still opted for a YC. I would maybe accept a YC given by the referee on the field but after watching replays, a RC is preferable, imo.

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    6. Dukat19226 September 2022 at 23:32

      Agree with Euro Soccer Ref on this one, RC preferable for me as well: missing the ball, hitting the opponent's shin with studs and rather high force.

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    7. Fortify 26 September 2022 at 23:46

      ENGLAND - GERMANY 2 full clips of PK situations and 1 goal of England strange signal from AR (despite the good call )
      71' Goal https://streamable.com/v0n7pc
      50' OFR https://streamable.com/l53sco
      80' OFR https://streamable.com/lhqq18

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    8. Fortify 27 September 2022 at 00:02

      50’ agree with others opinion here, Makkelie should spot live this penalty, maybe AR should involve to help the referee when he makes such a miss.
      71’ although we have to praise AR for seeing live this goal still it was a strange flag signal, never seen that before
      80’ yes, it is difficult live but for a top referee IMO this PK have to be whistle live not after an OFR.
      About YC/RC I’m ok with YC, both players open their leg to play the ball, at the moment of contact we can clearly see that white 23 has a bent leg not a straight one, so intensity will be lower.

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    9. Ref_170727 September 2022 at 00:11

      What do you guys think about the potential penalty for Germany in 32‘? There was an obvious holding, but maybe not enough to consider it a mandatory penalty.

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    10. Anonymous27 September 2022 at 06:32

      @Ref_1707
      According to the German commentator, the holding was possibly outside the box. And when the player dropped himself in the box, there was no longer a pull.

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    11. Ref_170727 September 2022 at 08:06

      As mentioned above, IMO the replays rather indicated that the holding continued in the box. Should be rewatched.

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  66. Fortify 26 September 2022 at 23:33

    Hungary - Italy
    45' https://streamable.com/dhs4q1
    79' https://streamable.com/lpy9zd
    87' https://streamable.com/cpib9z

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    1. Dukat19226 September 2022 at 23:48

      45': RC for VC is possible, however I actually prefer the YC for UB in this situation, given the context of this game, followed by a stern warning. Now, if we want to assess the exact result of the card, it's rather questionable, seeing the attitude of the carded player, but I see Bastien "giving him a talk" just at the end of the clip, so maybe that sent a proper message.

      79': Supportable play on call, no more than that. Penalty was indeed possible, a very borderline situation. I would leave it to referee's discretion.

      87': RC possible for a "challenge as an attack" offence, but again, YC is not wrong (no studs shown, no high contact). I would support the referee again.

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    2. bmb27 September 2022 at 00:28

      45. Italy's 8 should have also been booked for simulation. That was embarrassing. Szalai deserved the yellow. I can understand his anger at the shameful diving but he crossed a line grabbing his shirt & trying to drag him up. As for his attitude, according to his interview he was questioning the ref about if he saw the simulation. It was his retirement game tonight & was already emotional.

      79. Clear as day push with his left hand. That should have been a penalty.

      87. Ah Fiola. I love him but he is always a late tackle away from a card. He's late, as he often is and deserves his yellow. Not a red for me as said above no studs, not high, just typically Fiola late.

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    3. Unknown27 September 2022 at 05:41

      45’ YC Imo is the only appropriate punishment. This simply is an unsporting behaviour, not a violent conduct.

      79’ This is a clear penalty for me, attacker misses the ball ONLY because of the push and it wasn’t a small push. In that case a DOGSO while not trying the ball as well. Var intervention expected.

      87’ Correct YC, challenge as an attack not relevant in this case I think, because the tackle aimed at the ball, but too late. High speed, but no studs, no high contact point.

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    4. Mikael W27 September 2022 at 09:35

      79' is quite a clear penalty IMO. The nature of the situation means that it suits the attacker to rather stop to make his shot, and then the defender crashes into him. I don't really see any attempt to deliberately stop in order to generate a foul. DOGSO is possible as well, but I think UEFA/FIFA want a yellow card there. For me at least, this situation is less grey than has been discussed.

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  67. Anonymous27 September 2022 at 00:10

    ENG-GER

    Entertaining match! Team ref contributed to a very entertaining match and Makkelie is imo one of the best managers (if not the best) on the pitch.

    From a refereeing perspective, two OFR's is unfortunate. 1) The first one was initially rejected. From a first glance, it looked like the German player tried to run through the English player. However, the kick was clear in replay. 2) The 2nd penalty - it seems Makkelie was turning away from the incident. Good cooperation with VAR. Strictly according to the book, you can argue about a RC. However, as a neutral watcher I preferred a YC here. Those of you that have seen the full game - and the full picture - will agree with me that a YC is the better decision in the spirit of the game, and also fully accepted by these fair playing teams.

    Perhaps interesting to mention that both Germany and England scored a goal from a high pressing situation - a style that both teams prefer to play. Very balanced and entertaining game in every single aspect.

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    1. bmb27 September 2022 at 00:39

      Perfectly put kmk. I'm sure he'll be disappointed not to have seen them in real time but good teamwork with his team. One of them, the stamp on the foot would have been his blindside anyway, unless he has developed X-Ray vision, the player would have been obstructing his view. I think people forget he is just a human being as well as being one of the top referees in the world, there seems to be a higher expectation that he can see and judge things not humanly possible because of it and the criticism of him always feels that bit harsher to me, more because of peoples expectations than anything. He's had better nights and it was a tough game for him tonight no doubt but both incidents fall into the understandable category, imo. Unfortunate not incompetent. Overall he and his team contributed positively to a decent game of football and between them got the big calls right.

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    2. Anonymous27 September 2022 at 07:24

      Exactly. Every referee is human and positioning is crucial. Penalty 1 – some might think, Makkelie’s position is "perfect" as he looks straight into it, however the best camera angle in replay was the one from the side. Perfect position? Think again :) Penalty 2 – some are convinced that it should be whistled live, but forget that a referee's view can be obstructed by, for instance, a player or because the referee is in a turn to follow the ball.

      Some of the claims on this blog are therefore heavily exaggerated (‘terrible night’ or ‘nightmare to watch’). Unfortunate is the right word. If Makkelie had to make 500 decisions yesterday, 490 were correct.

      This referee is on top of the field. Stands out, above the ground level, therefore expectations are always higher. Even his domestic games are extensively reported on this blog, which always surprises me a bit. As if people have an agenda to write him down.

      Meaningless game? Not really. The second half was certainly one of the more spectacular, intense and least dull I have witnessed during this Nation's League campaign. It was a spectacular match, thanks to the management of the referee, who was 100% neutral in a packed stadium, who did not influence the final result in cooperation with his reliable VAR. In the end, that is the most important thing.

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    3. GRef27 September 2022 at 08:17

      Seriously, I am the last to critisize a referee but its just so unfair against other referee being critized here and Makkelie that makes me angry. Although he is very good manager, in his games there is almost everytime missed big incident and after that no problem. This isnt just right for me. Otherwise stop critisizing others.

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    4. bmb27 September 2022 at 09:11

      @GRef you'll be hard pushed to find a critical post from me about any referee, I will always look for the positives, whoever they are. I can't agree with you on there always being a big incident missed in Makkelie's games. He consistently puts in above expected performances as his UEFA marks reflect. It is rare for him to perform below above expected level, probably why the criticism is always so harsh.

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    5. Anonymous27 September 2022 at 09:41

      Agree. I had the impression that some commenters have an agenda and are already (more or less) running a campaign to see their favourite referee in the UCL final. :-) They will praise their favorite, and talk down the strongest contenders, like Makkelie, in a rude unfriendly way. The same happened last season: Turpin certainly not flawless, but he was constantly insulted by people who also realised that he was the biggest competitor of their favourite referee.

      I don’t say it was DM's best game of season, but I distance myself from that nonsense. He is rarely overruled by the VAR and has been performing at a consistently high level for a number of seasons now. The major “incidents” that people tend to talk about are the typical 'grey area incidents', however they are never clear & obvious mistakes. It’s part of the profession called refereeing and he is truly one of the best atm.

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  68. bmb27 September 2022 at 00:17

    +1

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  69. Mikael W27 September 2022 at 09:39

    Here is 30' from Wembley mentioned by Ref_1707:
    https://streamvi.com/watch/1664262973

    I would have played on too, Kehrer falls of his own accord after the holding and performs a 'schwalbe'. That being said, the holding is quite existent and García-Aranda gave a penalty for less at WC1998 and then got a semifinal as his next assignment. As Ref_1707 said, nobody could really complain about a penalty call here for that reason. Impossible to determine whether it finished in or outside the box, but I'm sure the VMO crew checked that carefully.

    In general, my impression was that Makkelie wasn't at the top yesterday (game was on the background at home), some small stuff, he should have detected both penalties himself on the FoP. Anthony's clip (thx!!) just misses it but England unexpectedly gave the ball away at GER's penalty, so Makkelie had some ground to make up, and then Musiala tricks Maguire into this clear trip. Rice runs in the Dutch ref's vision, so if he watched the duel 'all the way' he would probably have given a penalty by intuition, but I guess he thought Musiala just kicked it too far and played for the penalty (he did!), though he did so successfully. Second one is quite a bad mistake, one of the (IMO) top two referees in the world should be able to perceive such a penalty quite easily, probably he senses sth has happened but doubts his perception a bit and opts to play on. Personally, I think a RC would be a rather/really bad decision here, Bellingham prods the ball away deliberately in order to get hit and win a penalty, Schlotterbeck is just late, never excessive force IMO (HUNITA 87' is by far more a red card tbh), yellow card is absolutely correct for me.

    Despite the six goals the game was, from I saw, quite flat really and probably I'd have refereed this game quite poorly too :D. I wouldn't read too much into what happened at Wembley re. Makkelie's form, at least personally.

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    1. Anonymous27 September 2022 at 09:43

      Very nuanced analysis, as always. Much appreciated.

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    2. Chefren27 September 2022 at 13:29

      Agree with what you said about the penalty incident in 30', after live sequence and without closer replay my first impression was that attacker looked for the defender to get the contact, then the replays were confirmations that his fall was quite theatrical, in order to "use" the situation. Having said that, of course penalty would have been absolutely OK for the action by defender.

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  70. TB_27 September 2022 at 12:00

    Have anyone watched SMREST yesterday? I saw highlights and the situation in 51' concerned me (00:48 on UEFA video), was the player really in an offside position? The ball wasn't deflected by the second defender, but even if it would, from view it looks like SMR16 wasn't in an offside position even then. anyone?

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  71. Fortify 27 September 2022 at 13:06

    Thanks to your comment I just cheeked the situation and I have to say a very good call by AR1 Maryna Striletska, she was very concentrated. The offside was give for the first player who came from an offside position and clearly challenge the opponent for the ball.
    Here you have the link:
    https://streamable.com/l0r8yt

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    1. TB_27 September 2022 at 13:12

      Thanks, that makes perfect sense. The highlight was too short and missed context. Now it's clear, brilliant decision. Very good match by Kateryna Monzul's team, that was the only thing that concerned me.

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    2. Chefren27 September 2022 at 13:20

      The offside is correct for the previous player returning back.
      In 00:17 you can hear a blasphemy from San Marino coach, I think, complaining about the decision and screaming about a backpass. In serie A such wording is punished by straight RC if heard by referee, but mostly players and coach are able to pronounce it "disguised". :D

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  72. M27 September 2022 at 13:59

    Today plenty big matches,Lahoz,Orsato,Zwayer, Sidiropoulous and Tohver are going to have big matches in fiery atmospheres.

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