Referee appointments for second legs of 2018-19 UEFA Champions League Round of 16. Games to be played on Wednesday 13 March. Thank to Kronikasedziowska.
FC Bayern München (GER) - Liverpool FC (ENG)
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Lorenzo Manganelli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Fabiano Preti (ITA)
Fourth Official: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Balázs Makray (HUN)
13 March 2019, 21:00 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
FC Barcelona (ESP) - Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Liba (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Nils Øyvind Fisketjønn (NOR)
So an Italian referee for the first and second leg, not the best... Orsato had Bayern on MD5 but Mazic should have been there i guess.
ReplyDeleteMazic is in China, which make things a bit difficult.
DeleteBtw, Mazic rightly sent off a player in China this weekend for denying a goal with hands, Suarez style.
Any footage??
DeleteThe average Level of Italian Referees is the best in the world. A CAN PRO Referee (third Italian Level) could be an International referee in many other countries.
DeleteNot only again an Italian referee....Rocchi, and now Orsato.... Butt Irrati in both games VAR
DeleteSwitching Marciniak and Orsato would have appeared more sensible. Maybe not enough trust for the Polish?
ReplyDeletePlease keep in mind that Lewandowski plays for Bayern, and both Lewandowski and Marciniak are celebrities in Poland, sometimes featuring in the same programs and/or shows, as well as Lewandowski's wife. As a Pole, I think it is not a good idea for Marciniak to referee Lewandowski's games.
DeleteDoes any of you has the footage of Casemiro's 2nd YC yesterday? I read it was pretty harsh by Gil Manzano.
ReplyDeleteI dont have any footage,I just kniw that he was denying Valladolid's free kick and he got his 2nd caution for that.
DeleteSo, after having known all referees appointed in CL Round of 16, and assuming that we wont see "new names" in Quarterfinals, I think we can draw the following conclusions.
ReplyDeleteReferees allowed to handle in CL KO stage: Brych (GER), Çakır (TUR), del Cerro Grande (ESP), Kuipers (NED), Makkelie (NED), Marciniak (POL), Mateu Lahoz (ESP), Orsato (ITA), Rocchi (ITA), Skomina (SVN), Turpin (FRA), Zwayer (GER). 12 referees for 16 matches, with 4 of them officiating 2 games.
The missing ones
Aytekin: technical choice, he has in any case Brych and Zwayer ahead.
Bastien: not appointed at all, maybe performance principle, however I think it would have been difficult to see him even in "normal conditions" after GS.
Collum: missing experience with VAR.
Gil Manzano: technical choice, not a very positive GS.
Hațegan: missing experience with VAR, the most difficult choice for committee, I would say.
Karasev: injured, however, in case, I think it would have been unlikely to see him in CL KO stage.
Kassai: basically, performance principle, but differently from Bastien he got EL.
Královec: technical choice, on paper maybe he could have had a chance given that VAR has been introducted in Czech Republic, but he needs to convince the committee more.
Mažić: personal choice, maybe he was even appointed for a game after Zurich - Napoli in EL and then UEFA removed him.
Oliver: missing experience with VAR.
Sidiropoulos: missing expeience with VAR, but even with it, I think quite difficult for the Greek due to his performances.
Soares Dias: technical choice, he is VAR expert, but he had not a good GS, he got low profile games starting from MD1.
Taylor: missing experience with VAR.
Undiano Mallenco: technical choice, not a good GS, not the best performances shown.
Very good analysis Chefren, as usual. Do you really think that in QF, SF and final we will se the same 16 names appointed for this KO stage ?
DeleteWell I think it is very unfair, especially for a couple of officials who are in a very good shape. 1st of all hategan, who did an outstanding GS and has shown great perfomances since last summer.
Then Collum, always reliable when he has been called in the pitch
Undiano mallenco deserve very much a farewell match in Cl and finally Kralovec could used as well.
In case of a QF match already decided after the first leg, do you think will be possible to appoint one of the 4 above mentioned in the return match?
Anybody knows when Karasev will come back ?
I think that we will see the same officials in Quarterfinals, no new names. Even in case of a certain score in first leg, UEFA wont take any risk, it is now 100% clear. So no room for other referees in my opinion.
DeleteChefren what is your opinion? Italianisation of UEFA Refereeing goes on, or not?
ReplyDeleteFIFA and UEFA are completely in the hand of one refereeing philosophy (which is not shared everywhere in the continent). I think this is a problem. I understand Rosetti wants to go sure with good and experienced VARs. Maybe I would do the same. But we can't always have everything decided by Rocchi/Orsato/Irrati, sorry.
I understand your point of view, however there are many reasons for that. At first, the referees from other countries who can't use VAR, then the fact that VAR has made a big development in Italy. This is the same for Netherlands and indeed you have now alerady three Dutch appointments. The same would be for Spain but in that case there are too many Spanish teams. One year ago, at a certain point, we saw Brych for almost all the CL KO games, so one could have said the same things for Germany :)
DeleteI just hope that starting from the next Group Stage there will be more VAR experts from different countries.
But basically, I have to admit, and this was almost the same with Collina, there is a certain tendency in having more trust in Italian referees. This is something for which I can be proud, and indeed I am, but at the same time I would like to see something different as well. Hopefully in future this will change with a great development of referees from other countries.
I could even add two words about England, the "home" of football: they didn't introduce VAR in due time and at moment Oliver and Taylor are penalized. But also, the situation of refereeing is not so brilliant... so there are many reasons for which Italian refeeres are prefered over officials from other countries. The panel of Elite needs to increase, also in terms of experience.
Italy always had great referees. I can remeber Casarin, Agnolin, Lanese, Pairetto, Collina, Braschi, Rossetti, Rizzoli etc. Italian refereeing school was great during history, it's somehow obviously that italian referees are promoted.
DeleteIt will be a problem next years, when Rocchi (46) and Orsato (44) will retire, because their new generation of referees is not a top one. Anyway, I think Orsato will be heavily pushed forward in next months. Next year will be EURO 2020, where a QF (or even SF) for him is possible
You both convinced me, thank you. I hope UEFA will train their VARs in a way that Mr Irrati (who is surely an excellent VAR) will not have to do each final in the next 4 years. :)
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ReplyDeleteIf you want to say something, please don't use this language.
DeleteFriendly Match (20th March 2019 in Wolfsburg, 20:45 o'clock)
ReplyDeleteGermany - Serbia
Referee : Bobby Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1 : Francis Connor (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2 : Alan Mulvanny (SCO)
Fourth Official : Nick Walsh (SCO)
https://twitter.com/LucaMarelli72/status/1105142467601580032
ReplyDeleteLuca Marelli, former serie A referee, reports that Mazic was originally appointed for Bayern - Liverpool, so Orsato is a replacement for the Serbian. The latter has definitely left UEFA, but he had been appointed for this game before taking the final decision.
This also explains why we have two referees frome the same country for the same game in both first and second leg: very rare.
Perspectively UEFA must consider doubling or tripling the salaries of their top referees. It can't be that China absorbs them.
DeleteI knew it :D
DeleteIt`s not my business, but 5500 pounds per game- it`s not so small amount (open source: https://www.goal.com/en/news/how-much-premier-league-referees-paid-wages-salary/14pjnss8mq3au1dmbi2acqhav0)
DeleteIts small from what football brings. There are a lot of money now and they need to rise money or they'll lose more referees. Remember that few more elites had an offer to go China or Saudia Arabia..
DeleteThey decide on millions in each game, so they should be paid appropriately. Yes, 5500 is ok. Cristiano Ronaldo earns this - really no joke, I just calculated it - in 30 minutes. And then you know that something is not correct.
DeleteJovan and Lucac, i fully agree with you. If we compare coaches/footballers salaries - 5000-6000 euros for referees is nothing. Especially for UEFA and FIFA... and of course, after all hate into their side!
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DeleteI think so, for such games appointments are released three days before the date.
ReplyDeleteAppointments for QF's will be interesting. The referees who are still unspoken (clean sheet) after this round of 16 are Brych and Makkelie. Furthermore Kuipers, Rocchi and Turpin will certainly get a match too. We have to wait for the performances of Marciniak and Orsato tonight. Skomina and Cakir has been highly criticized in the media and will be a doubt. Let's see what the committee will decide after the draws.
ReplyDeleteIf UEFA is clever they could assign Rocchi-Irrati to the final and give Rocchi no further game in Champions League not to risk medial slander.
ReplyDeleteThe more risky option would be Skomina-Irrati. After more than 50 games in the competition and 2 good OFRs in which Skomina and his AR can't be really blamed (difficult offside, impossible to see handball due to fast shot) it is time for the Slovenian.
Now the "problem" for Rocchi is that Juventus can reach final.
DeleteSo, committee can't make appointments keeping him for the last act.
Completely off-topic, but two interesting situations from Dijon-Reims in L1 last weekend, officiated by Florent Batta.
ReplyDelete3' - RC for DOGSO
=> https://streamable.com/bt8pa
12' - Penalty for handball after VAR review
=> https://streamable.com/2ngrr
1) The decision itself, free-kick and red card are absolutely correct, however I'd like to point out something else: it seems as if Batta doesn't whistle the foul (which would explain the protests of the players). VAR is looking at the decision (as it involves a potential red card situation and also a potential penalty situation) and then suddenly Batta dishes out RC. To me it looks as if this decision was taken by VAR himself as Batta does not initiate an OFR and he makes at no moment the VAR signal. Strange situation if you ask me.
2) I'm having big doubts about the handball. The ball comes from a deviation from a Reims player's foot and then accidentally hits the hand. The initial shot would not have gone into the same direction, to be honest, I don't think that this is a deliberate handball. Due to the deviation, the ball is unexpected. Personally, I think that VAR was wrong to intervene here and to recommend an OFR.
Would like to hear your thoughts about this.
1) I agree, strange handling of the situation and I don't have a good explanation. He should have at least whistled and made clear, that he saw the foul, in the first place. Maybe he wanted to know, whether it is inside or not before issuing a RC. But was it really ball-orientated and only a YC in case of a PK? Anyway, he should indicate, if he was helped by the VAR.
Delete2) As often with handballs, you can give it but you don't have to. VAR intervention is OK, if the referee completely missed the contact.
Off-topic question here. Why is Jose Maria Sanchez Martínez appointed for UEFA Youth league game between Midtjylland and Manchester United? He was appointed for El Clasico several times and he is doing really well compared with other referees in Spain. I do not understand why he is not handling any game in EL knockout stage for example. Anyone?
ReplyDeleteHe only made his EL debut in December and is still listed as a Category 2 referee. In order to handle EL knockout stage matches, you have to be in Category 1.
DeleteGerman Marco Fritz ( UEFA 2nd) appointed for the Greek derby between Panathinaikos - Olympiacos.
ReplyDeleteSerbian, Srdian Jovanovic ( UEFA 1st) for Atromitos vs AEK Athens ( 4th vs 3rd)
And Greek referees?
DeleteThis is the second MD in a row in which we have 2 foreign referees. Last time it was Welz for AEK - Panathinaikos and Aghayev for PAOK - Atromitos.
DeleteGreek referees were appointed to the other 6 matches. This time the only FIFA referees with a match are Diamantopoulos (UEFA 3rd) Sidiropoulos (UEFA Elite) and Kominis (UEFA 2nd)
Sidiropoulos and Diamantopoulos appointed for tough matches between teams trying to avoid relegation.
DeleteKominis and Papadopoulos also with a match after resting for one MD.
The referee program and development must be truly terrible if your league always has to bring in hired mercenaries to do what your local referee's seem not able to do. Why even have any referee's with FIFA badges in Greece if they're not FIFA level and capable?
DeleteGreece, where UEFA 1st and 2nd group referee's are more trusted than your local Elite group referee. No wonder, Greek referee's struggle when appointed in UEFA Competitions.
DeleteTerrible refereeing in the match between Porto and Tottenham for the UEFA Youth League. Wrong decisions, several anticipations of both the main referee and assistant referees.
ReplyDeleteBall on shoulder equals ball in hand?
Is fouls in the goal area different from faults in the rest of the field?
Anyway ...
Correct call by Orsato to givr no penalty. Very soft contact.
ReplyDeleteIs this in real life in Barsa??? What FANTASTIK penalty decision from Marciniak!! Hahahahahha
ReplyDeleteAnd his college from VAR Pawel Rackowski nothing to say?????Woow!!!
ReplyDeleteBayern vs Liverpool 17 min. AR2 offside? 🤔
ReplyDeleteWas onside.
DeletePK ? Really ???? Come on, stop joking Mr Marciniak
ReplyDeletePenalty Barcelona wrongly given. Suárez put his foot on the foot of the defender and for that reason it's no foul! Why did the VAR support this decision? I don't understand?!
ReplyDeleteBecause regardless of all the tech you give any referee, in the end if the person behind the monitor is simply a poor referee or the type of referee who doesn't want to go against his colleague. Any and all tech like VAR will never reach it's full potential.
DeleteIn my opinion the foul whistled by Marciniak as penalty for Barça, is a foul by Suarez. Gil had to invite Marciniak to rewatch the incident because FOR SURE Marciniak had not perception of the challenge once defender tried the tackle. He clearly thought that it was a classic foul. I think I can dare to say that this is an evident VAR mistake in confirming the call.
ReplyDeleteSorry I meant Raczkowski of course.
DeleteWhat a joke penalty. Sure live you can make the mistake but on replay? What a scandal. He stepped on the defender and then screams like he is about to die and VAR supports that?
ReplyDeleteBecause Pawel and Simon is fighting for positions in UEFA..It will to much Polish in UEFA CL si .. only I don't understand Simon and Roberto R. For myself the both refs don't deserve to be in UEFA CL matches ..
ReplyDeleteHow it’s possible to confirm this PK with VAR assistance. Scandalous decision. Absolutely Angry here. And big foul on Lopes. No card. Shame on Marciniak.
ReplyDeleteNo amount of tech can make a poor referee better. Nor can any amount of tech embolden a referee who is unwilling to expose a colleagues mistake.
ReplyDeleteOne can understand Marciniak on the pitch calling this penalty, almost no faults for him, "natural decision", but once whistled here VAR must intervene and invite referee. Really disappointed by the Polish crew in VAR room, this was something too evident, and I'm sorry for Marciniak as well.
ReplyDeleteYou're only as strong as your weakest link. You succeed as team and you fail as a team. So no Marciniak is not exempted from from this failure.
DeleteYep, live looked like a PK, but Suárez is the king of divers...
DeleteI have seen 4 replays on the Suarez penalty. On 3 of these replays it looks like a penalty and on one as Chefren says it looks like a foul by Suarez. Is this enough to overturn an on-field decision? I'll let you decide.
ReplyDeletePlease, don’t be ridiculous. If you don’t overrulled your pitch ref here as VAR, that’s obvious VAR is nothing to do with football.
DeleteSorry Jackson. No discussion about this one. Clear foul of Suarez. I don't know which repays you have seen, but with VAR there is no explanation to support this PK.
DeleteIf one camera angle clearly shows that it's not a PK. How can that not be enough? Regardless of the other camera angles. You've found one that shows that the decision was wrong. You go with it. That's the whole point of VAR, isn't it? Find clear and conclusive evidence.
DeleteI think yes, an OFR shoulf have been made. Watching it live first time (without replays) I would have said penalty, but the images show an offensive fou. IMO, clear and obvious mistake.
DeleteHowever, again I must say that I’m shocked about how a couple of users behave themselves here...
Not educated appropriately by their parents, Stake. No other Explanation possible!
DeleteWould you prefer a blog full of "yes men" and referee apologists?
DeleteSorry Stake but when it’s so obvious and profesionnal foul is commited by high level refus, we have to notice this with strong words. This case isn’t acceptable at all for ref as Marciniak. Benoit Bastien european season is over because of a supposed bad performance in Athens by a « great » danish low profile observer. Marciniak and his VAR must be suspended. Clearly.
DeleteThe lower the own Level and Arguments are, the louder you must present them to get attention. natural phenomenon.
DeleteCorrect YC to Marçal.
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ReplyDeleteSimple: I’s a small football country compared to the big leagues and small country refs always get that advantage...
Delete@Mareska
DeleteModerate your language.
Or Marciniak isn't actually the top notch referee than many think that he is. Failed season in the UCL. Was below expectations at the World Cup. And now this.
DeleteIt will be interesting for sure to read UEFA statements about this game.
ReplyDeleteNothing more then a VAR mistake..
DeleteI agree. UEFA will find a way to minimize the gravity of the mistake. Human error, I guess
DeleteI am surprised that Gil, who has huge world cup experience as a VAR, did not press Raczkowski to call Marciniak for OFR. Whatever will UEFA publish tomorrow, I think we wont see Marciniak in CL anymore. It is interesting, just like last season, solid group stage and then not so good knockout faze by Marciniak.
DeleteBayern vs Liverpool, 39. min, AR2 onside? 🤔
ReplyDeleteSo much bla bla bla here again. Sheriff at the fron-line, apparently having time to watch soccer after some absence and blaming referees again. Disgusting
ReplyDeleteHello to you too Lucac. And Thanks ;)
DeleteThis is real facts. Not blabla. Unforgivable error from VAR here.
DeleteIt's the style that is disgusting, not the contents.
Deletelucac, I see that you've got nothing to say in regards to actual refereeing. You seem busy trying to be the blog police.
DeleteStrong Orsato. Foul, advantage, offside, freekick, YC
ReplyDeleteVery good performace. Strong personality and always cool when possible. Hopefully he manages to keep his level in the 2nd half
DeleteNow missed YC against Mané. '46
DeleteIMO great first half by Orsato, as Raymus said, strong and firm performance.
ReplyDeleteGreat Orsato so far.Letting the game and advantage as much as he can.
ReplyDeleteHope he keeps that performance in 2nd half that looks to be challenging.
Some of you here complain about Rosetti and his over use of Italian referee's. But when I see this today. I can't blame him for doing it.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for Marciniak but after an excellent first period as Elite referee, in recent seasons he has been always involved in controversial decisions. The talent we knew seems to be lost. I hope not forever, but I'm really in trouble to recognize again the old Marciniak. I'm really sorry for that. He had everything to become a very, very TOP... and another question can be: how much fair is to get always trust by committee based on past good achievements?
ReplyDeleteHe is "still" 38. He should show more, if you ask me, having a potentially quite long career to spend.
Maybe a demotion is in order. I'm not saying remove him from the Elite list. But a demotion in the sense that he's only assigned as 4th Official, AAR, or VAR.
DeleteOr Europa League for him.
DeleteYou've gotta get him out of the middle for a while. If he's still allowed to be in the middle. Then what message is sent?
DeleteThat's correct Chefren. I feel very sorry for Marciniak. His first year as elite was outstanding. Then after it was more avarage and not consequent in performances. Many controversial decisions and also his matches at the World Cup weren't good. Perhaps he was praised to quickly. Let's hope he will recover from this in the next seasons.
ReplyDeleteNow maybe first mistake is forgiving YC to Mane.
ReplyDeleteYeah I agree. Mane was quite late and it was quite a forceful stamp. But ever since the World Cup, referee's seem to not caution those.
DeleteMissed YC for Mane... for me 47' is like any others
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteThe blog starts to become difficult like this. I put out a point for discussion, not even an opinion, and its shot down also immediately. As fellow referees we should be trying to determine why a decision is made. Why did the VAR not intervene? Not simply saying that it is wrong 100% and there is no more discussion.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes I don't think its a penalty. But by peoples response you'd think I'd just told that this was a penalty. It's not about making excuses but trying to see what the officiating team saw and thought about the incident. I remember an interview with Collina a few years ago where he said his job was basically to determine why mistakes were made.
Trying to explain what happened in VAR room, I would say that they didn't pay the needed attention to decisive replay, because, once watched, only thing to do was to call Marciniak for an OFR.
DeleteMaybe they checked only other replays without the decisive one?
This would be a terrible explanation... however, UEFA should write something and there they should explain why penalty was confirmed.
Agree about your comment Jackson but disagree about the fact that’s not simply 100% mistake. Because here this is a 100 % VAR mistake. Without any doubts. And competence is involved here. Sorry but this is sad reality tonight.
Delete+1
DeleteAt times you can't explain the unexplainable. Nor can you excuse the inexcusable. It happens.
DeleteLong review after 2-1 scored by Lyon. Polish crew confirmed the goal.
ReplyDeleteI hope for Marciniak score will change because his PK is more heavy now...
DeleteBarca's greatness is giving Marciniak a break. But his and his colleague's mistake remain.
DeleteHe is looking Incredible in this shoes...his running style is for bellive or not... I don't know .Sory everyone but for me in this level...Marciniak totally missed the match...
ReplyDeletePolish VAR team isn’t working today..
ReplyDeleteThe PK needed to be reviewed and the Lyon’s goal needed to be called off due to offside (not sure tho) but for a fault at least.
Marciniak just lost his chance of going further.
Without having watched the potential wrong penalty decision by Marciniak (so I do not comment on it), a German liveticker writes: „clear and correct decision“, „stupid foul“. Can anyone share some pictures and videos? Thanks a lot.
ReplyDeleteThis is Aytekin’s count? Sorry, just joke ;)
DeleteMaybe "a German liveticker" is the VAR in the match. That would explain a lot ;D
DeleteI want Marciniak to whistle a fully correct PK to Lyon in minute 90+4 :P
ReplyDeleteFor me, clear foul before Lyon's goal. It had to be reviewed. Indeed, Marciniak was rising star, I was thrilled about his performances few years ago. But, then he started to make mistakes, Ray HD wrote here that he had many problems in Polish league, he was nearly disastrous at WC. Then, last week he was VAR in Porto and was involved in some very doubtful situations, tonight he is far from expected level... This has to be the end of his road this year. He is going from bad to worse.
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1105940911194808323?s=19
ReplyDeleteIf you want to increase complotist theory about Barcelone special way of refereeing (Ovrebo, Aytekin, Marciniak), that’s a good method. « Technical problems » just at the moment of this mistake, hum hum hum...
DeleteNot sure how true or how reliable the source is. But if it is true. What a shameful and embarrassing situation for the football confederation that prides itself on supposedly being the best in the world in all aspects
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQ7T7RepzQ
DeleteAt 0:36 you can see, that the right bottom screen is missing, where normally the VAR room is shown - that supports the "technical problem" theory.
RMC Sport (French broadcaster of the game) said that the VAR Raczkowski confirmed the penalty to Marciniak. Anyway we should wait for UEFA statement.
DeleteI don't know what be the bigger embarrassment for UEFA.
DeleteA VAR system failure at the worst possible moment or having a VAR operator who had the audacity to actually confirm the on field call.
Uefa wants to avoid the first scandal in UCL. Clever way to do it like this..
ReplyDeletePlease Roberto, be honest.
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ReplyDeleteBrilliant performance by Orsato! Firm, cool, and always in control. Very well done! We can expect him in more huge clashes this spring.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, very good performance by the Italian, much much better than his previous appearance in ManU-PSG. I had the impression that he was more relaxed than usual tonight, he had not this "dictatorial" way of officiating that we've known him for. Only minus point was the missing caution for Mané at the beginning of the second half, but in the global picture, this is really just a minor factor. Congratulations, Mr Orsato!
DeleteMaybe he can be a candidate for UCL SF or EL final?
DeleteDefinitely, I also meant my quick verdict without going into small details. The full picture was great. Modern refereeing, great self-presentation, good reactions, very good application of wait-and-see in advantage situation. I had the impression we see a very confident and reliable (real) elite referee.
DeleteNow I am almost sure he will get an UCL semifinal. However the progess of Juventus can effect Rocchi's and Orsato's appointments a lot. I can even imagine to see that the same happen as in this round, two Italians crew for the same games in the semifinals.
DeleteAbsolutely agree with everything said. Two top clashes in round of 16, both done very well. Orsato is a strong candidate for CL semi-finals, even for CL/EL final, he is obviously in great form, why not to reword him with one of the finals. Although, I would be happier to see Skomina in CL finals and Orsato in EL finals.
DeleteRegarding finals, I think, Rocchi has previously earned the "right" to be considered before Orsato, if he doesn't mess it up in his next matches. Everything else very possible for Orsato, I agree with that.
DeleteSafe for QF:
ReplyDeleteBrych
Kuipers
Makkelie
Rocchi
Orsato
Turpin
Lahoz
Doubt
Skomina
Cakir
Grande
Out
Zwayer
Marciniak
What you think Chefren?
Small number of reliable referees for UEFA, I'm afraid. Except Kuipers, almost all "safe" are error prone and most of them are not "big" names. By loosing Klatenburg, Mazic and Rizzoli 2 years ago, UEFA can be in trouble with referee announcements in most important matches.
DeleteA QF for del Cerro Grande in his first CL season would be too much IMO. No issues with Skomina and Cakir, their general quality should weigh more than individual mistakes.
DeleteI would put Zwayer in the "doubt" category, because we don't know yet, how UEFA considers mistakes, that were corrected by VAR.
And some of the referees in the "safe" category could also get a direct SF.
Cakir a doubt? Haha no way. I expect another 2 appointments for him. Skomina a doubt? Laughable as well. I expect either a QF first leg then direct for final or no QF and direct final.
DeleteAs if Skomina hasn't self destructed on previous occasions. Every year is "his time" for the UCL. Yet year after year he manages to go out and sabotage himself. So no, Teo is not wrong in labeling him a doubt and error prone.
DeleteBrych is a safe bet for QF and SF (if no problems in the QF), because there are no german teams in QF
DeleteHopefully Juventus doesn't make it to the UCL Final. Thus opening the door for either Rocchi or Orsato. And yet again overlooking Skomina. Ideal!
DeleteSuarez admits in a post game interview that he stepped on the Lyon players foot which caused him to lose his balance. But he follows it up by saying that it is the referee who has to decide and that is why VAR is there.
ReplyDeleteMark from L’Equipe (french sport newspaper) : 2/10. No comment...
DeleteI meant for Marciniak ;)
DeleteBeing that it was a French team who was victimized tonight. I am not at all surprised at how a French newspaper rated Marciniak's performance. But to be honest, they are not too far off the mark.
DeleteAbout the possible technical problems with VAR, this would be the second situation in a really short time. As they managed to report the penalty in del Cerro game, they could have found a way to communicate with Marciniak, in case, yesterday. This time we must wait for an official statement by UEFA, this source is not reliable in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteChefren, do you think UEFA could justify the mistake just saying that there was a technical issue?
DeleteNo, absolutely. I think we will have the official and 100% true version about what happened. If they report technical mistake, I will believe that.
DeleteSo VAR was normally used to confirm Marciniak’s PK decision. Statement is now clear : Raczkowski is uncompetent or biaised. I hope for him this is the first way. Unacceptable at this level. Unvelievable statement by uefa.
DeleteVlad where are you? Im looking forward for the HL of these 4 matches ( if you have time ofcourse)
ReplyDeleteHello Xristos! It's really nice you ask about HL but, believe me, I am very busy last days and am unable to cut them (I even didn't watch Marciniak in full). Sorry! :/
DeleteI totally understand this, thanks for the effort in general
DeleteIf I have time, I can cut highlights of Orsato’s game yesterday, but I’ve also got a tight schedule today.
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