Thursday 18 February 2021

Europa League 2020/21 - Round of 32 - Referee Appointments (I)

UEFA Referees Committee has chosen the following officials to handle the first leg games to be played for Round of 32 of 2020/21 Europa League.


18 February 2021

18:55 CET - Piraeus (Stadio Georgios Karaiskakis)
Olympiacos FC (GRE) - PSV Eindhoven (NED)
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE) 
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Hallberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Šajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate:  Aurel Mihail Ionescu (ROU)

18:55 CET - Bern (Stadion Wankdorf)
BSC Young Boys (SUI) - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
Referee: Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Díaz Pérez Del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Hugo Miguel (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vlado Svilokos (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Lundström (FIN)

18:55 CET - Krasnodar (Stadium Krasnodar)
FC Krasnodar (RUS) - GNK Dinamo (CRO)
Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Marcin Boniek (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Jakub Winkler (POL)
Fourth Official: Krzysztof Jakubik (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Pawel Gil (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Ilona Tkach (BLR)

18:55 CET - Braga (Estádio Municipal de Braga)
SC Braga (POR) - AS Roma (ITA)
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Alojzije Šupraha (CRO)

18:55 CET - Prague (Eden Arena)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE) - Leicester City FC (ENG)
Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Giorgio Peretti (ITA)
Fourth Official: Fabio Maresca (ITA) 
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Medved (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Miroslaw Ryszka (POL)

18:55 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
FK Crvena zvezda (SRB) - AC Milan (ITA)
Referee: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Polychronis Kostaras (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Lazaros Dimitriadis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Ioannis Papadopoulos (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bibiana Steinhaus (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Thomas Einwaller (AUT) 
UEFA Delegate: Robert Kispál (HUN)

18:55 CET - Turin (Juventus Stadium)
Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP) - Manchester United FC (ENG)
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane de Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Alain Bieri (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA) 
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Danilo Filacchione (ITA) 

16:00 CET 18:55 CET - Kyiv (NSK Olimpiyskiy)
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) - Club Brugge (BEL)
Referee: Mattias Gestranius (FIN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan-Peter Aravirta (FIN)
Assistant Referee 2: Mikko Alakare (FIN)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA) 
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paul Tierney (ENG) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Igor Satkii (MDA)
UEFA Delegate: Metin Kazançoğlu (TUR)

18:55 CET - Budapest (Puskás Aréna)
Wolfsberger AC (AUT) - Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
Referee: Ali Palabıyık (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Ceyhun Sesigüzel (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Serkan Olguncan (TUR)
Fourth Official: Alper Ulusoy (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell Zor (SVN)

21:00 CET - Villeneuve d'Ascq (Stade Pierre Mauroy)
LOSC Lille (FRA) - AFC Ajax (NED)
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaš Somolani (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Fourth Official: Filip Glova (SVK) 
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefano Podeschi (SMR)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Kremer (LUX)

21:00 CET - Tel Aviv (Bloomfield Stadium)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) - FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Karim Abed (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Fiona Pförtke (GER)

21:00 CET - Granada (Estadio Municipal Nuevo de Los Cármenes)
Granada CF (ESP) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS)
Fourth Official: Vladimir Moskalev (RUS)
Video Assistant Referee: Vitali Meshkov (RUS)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Tulinger (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolphe Mannaerts (BEL)

21:00 CET - Villarreal (Estadio de la Cerámica)
Molde FK (NOR) - TSG 1899 Hoffenheim (GER)
Referee: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Benjamin Pagès (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mikael Berchebru (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA )
UEFA Referee Observer: Manuel López Fernández (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Iveta Stoyanova (BUL)

21:00 CET - Salzburg (Stadion Salzburg)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - Villarreal CF (ESP) 
Referee: Andris Treimanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 1: Haralds Gudermanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleksejs Spasjonnikovs (LVA)
Fourth Official: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Kindle (LIE)

21:00 CET - Deurne (Bosuil)
Royal Antwerp FC (BEL) - Rangers FC (SCO)
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Ivan Bebek (CRO) 
Video Assistant Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mark Borsch (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jon Skjervold (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Oskam (NED)

21:00 CET - Rome (Stadio Olimpico)
SL Benfica (POR) - Arsenal FC (ENG)
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Halis Özkahya (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Michael Fabbri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Elmir Pilav (BIH) 
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)                       

192 comments:

  1. Uefa referee committee considers Befinca Arsenal as a Champions League Match. That's right: I fully agree. Good match in my opinion for Schaerer and Kruzliak; expected Frappart

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  2. Interesting appointments!

    What stands out to me - the big observers are out assessing 1st Cat. referees, and not potential EURO candidates.

    Karasëv (Tulinger), Kružliak (Podeschi), Sidirópoulos (Einwaller) - one could infer, then that whether these referees will attend the EURO, or not, has already been determined by the committee.

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    1. Also - wasn't Kulbakou rejected by the Austrian authorities in the group stage, and now he is specially appointed fourth official there :D

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  3. Wow, the mixture of teams here is quite never seen before, but quite expected because of VAR in Europa league, very difficult to maintain a high sense of same compatriot all round

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  4. Big game for Schärer under Rosetti's eyes. I have big expectations for the Swiss.

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  5. Rosetti observing again after Barcelona - PSG. Schärer gets a good match.

    Important observer for Ekberg too on a quite open match.

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  6. Are the var officials also in the stadium or in a var center?

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    1. I think most of the time they're at the stadium in a TV truck but I remember in the last round they had a couple VAR teams at UEFA HQ in Nyon due to travel restrictions.

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    2. I don't know whether some of this games will be covered with a remote VAR, I can just point out that Irrati worked as VAR sunday evening in serie A Inter - Lazio (in Milan), then today he should be in Hungary for Vincic (as said, if not from remote) and on Thursday again in Italy (Rome) for Benfica - Arsenal. Let's see whether we will get more info, being appointed three times as VAR in 6 days is something like a record.

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  7. Big test for Schärer under the eyes of Rosetti, after today's observation in Spain for Kuipers, he will fly home and then he will watch the Swiss in Turin. To follow, very important game for Ekberg as well, it seems as committee is not still 100% convinced about his promotion, this can be another test. To be honest, I don't remember a so long focus on a referee by commitee that lasted so much time.
    The game in Rome is considered like a Champions League one, and I agree, so we have Cakir. However, one could say that CL is still CL and Cakir finds himself again out from the major competition, but for sure in case of good game he will get more sonorous appointments.
    The reputation of Cakir in front of committee in recent times seems to be very weird.
    There are some fourth officials coming from countries without VAR (if I'm not wrong), like Glova (SVK) and Nyberg (SWE), while in othe cases (Gestranius, Treimanis, Kabakov) this has been "fixed" by UEFA. So, how to explain it? For sure there can be COVID issues and we could have replacements, but sending an Italian fourth official in Ukraine just because the referee is from a country without VAR is quite particular. Different choices in terms of fourth officials to be selected could have been made.
    Stéphanie Frappart continues her journey, in my opinion she got of the least sonorous games with a very low technical level of at least one of the teams involved.
    Spasjonnikovs is back in Treimanis team, with VAR it will be easier, in case, to correct mistakes. Basically, however, a very good news.
    Letexier gaining experience in a KO game.
    Hategan at moment appears only as fourth official (this is also because he can use VAR with Kovacs), but I'm curious whether he wioll get a game with Sovre on next weeks. UEFA investigation could take a long time, so what to do?
    Last but not least, what UEFA wants to do with names like Karasev and Sidiropoulos regarding EURO continues to be a big mystery.
    Mikael is in my opinion fully right, one can assume they don't need to make detailed observations, they already know those referees, so a decision has been already made. In case of call for the tournament, this would be very, very undeserve

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    1. Glova and Nyberg do have EL experience, right? At least with Glova I am sure of that. The Finnish officials for example don't have that, if I am right. maybe that's a reason?

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    2. Both the names Rik mentioned passed the UEFA VAR course if I remember correctly.

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    3. Thanks, indeed this explains everything.

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    4. Always here to help. ;)

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  8. No English appointments apart from VAR

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    1. Maybe some issues for the officials from England to leve their country, as it seems to be the same for English clubs...
      Attwell and Tierney very lucky then to be allowed to travel.

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    2. No Scots in any role either.

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    3. Scots team was expecting to go to France (Lille) this week but as UK on red list, was unable to travel.

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  9. A lot of German VAR teams. Also, has Turpin been VAR in a UEFA knockout game before?

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    1. I remember him in Super Cup with Stéphanie Frappart.

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    2. Also in 2018 WC, if I’m not wrong

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    3. Which isn't UEFA knock-out. ;)

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  10. SERIE A APPOINTMENTS FOR NEXT MATCHDAY: The big match between Milan And Inter (Milan's derby and clash between 1st and 2nd in the ranking) will be officiated by DOVERI (FIFA 2nd CAT), who has already officiated INTER-JUVE and NAPOLY-JUVE. Congratulation ! Orsato on Friday, maybe a CL match for him next week
    ATALANTA – NAPOLI DI BELLO Marco
    IV: PASQUA Fabrizio VAR: FABBRI Michael
    BENEVENTO – ROMA PAIRETTO Luca
    IV: AYROLDI Giovanni VAR: CHIFFI Daniele
    CAGLIARI – TORINO ORSATO Daniele
    IV: FOURNEAU Francesco VAR: MAZZOLENI Paolo Silvio (VAR PRO)
    FIORENTINA – SPEZIA CALVARESE Gianpaolo
    IV: PRONTERA Alessandro VAR: GIACOMELLI Piero
    GENOA – H. VERONA MARCHETTI Matteo
    IV: AURELIANO Gianluca VAR: VALERI Paolo
    JUVENTUS – CROTONE MARINI Valerio
    IV: ABISSO Rosario VAR: BANTI Luca (VAR PRO)
    LAZIO – SAMPDORIA MASSA Davide
    IV: MARESCA Fabio VAR: DI PAOLO Aleandro (VAR PRO)
    MILAN – INTER DOVERI Daniele
    IV: GUIDA Marco VAR: MARIANI Maurizio
    PARMA – UDINESE IRRATI Massimiliano
    IV: PATERNA Daniele VAR: PICCININI Marco
    SASSUOLO – BOLOGNA LA PENNA Federico
    IV: RAPUANO Antonio VAR: NASCA Luigi (VAR PRO)

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  11. Dutch cup
    sc Heerenveen - Feyenoord
    Referee Siemen Mulder / VAR Martin van den Kerkhof

    Heerenveen's penalty is saved the keeper and the Heerenveen's player who picked up the rebound shot, but the early invading Feyenoord's player blocked it. The referee ordered the penalty to redone because the keeper was away early, but was canceled by VAR's intervention.
    https://streamable.com/h53swy

    The question is whether players who invade in early should be punished for VAR intervention in this case.

    Siemen Mulder:
    "I still find that a bit difficult for now. He (early invading player ) does not immediately take the rebound. The ball first reaches another player. He only gets involved in the game in the second instance."

    "I still have to discuss this. In the sense of: if the VAR looks back whether the keeper comes off his line too early, does he have to take that too? Normally not, but because he is now doing a review, maybe not. I don't know now, to be honest."

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  12. Hahaha little bit unusual, but within limits IMO.

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  13. Very expressive body language of the referee. Perhaps deaf football?

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  14. The referee appointments for Serie A and B, La Liga, Premier League and Ligue 1 from this weekend have been posted on the link "Domestic Competitions Appointments"!

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    1. Thank you.
      Link:
      https://law5-theref.blogspot.com/p/domestic-competitions-appointments.html

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    2. You are right; sorry I forgot it. My apologise

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  15. IMO that's actually quite cool :) Agree with ForIan

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  16. Anyone know why Dynamo Kyiv club Brugge was moved from the regular 18:55 CET kickoff to 1600 CET

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    1. Weather issues, game was played at -10°C, in the evening in Kyiv there will be -15 or even -20.

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    2. Thx that's what I was thinking

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  17. OT:
    Ivan Kružliak banned for 6 matchces and then he will referee only second league in Slovakia until the end of the season.
    https://sport.aktuality.sk/c/484152/rozhodcu-ivana-kruzliaka-preradili-do-ii-ligy/

    Any opinions about this punishment? End of the chances for Euro 2020 or next matchces perhaps in Europa League?

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    1. I really dislike this public announcements by such federations, this doesn't help the growth of referees, in particular Marián Ružbarský is UEFA observer and he should defend his compatriot. The chances to see him at EURO were very low, now I would say almost inexistent. It is difficult to reach the high level when you have such treatment domestically.

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    2. At first, it's a scandalous punishment for the incident that was not as black-and-white as was made by Slovak media (and refereeing people).

      Such significant suspensions are something typical for both Czech Republic and Slovakia. To be honest, I didn't see such actions in any other European league. I'm a fan of referees facing punishments for either extremely bad performance (such as Jakubik in Polish league: two bad decisions after OFR in one game, both against one team; he didn't get a game for three consecutive matchdays now) or continous bad performances but not such ban for one or two ordinary mistakes.

      Indeed, "he will referee only second league in Slovakia until the end of the season" seems to drastically reduce his EURO chances.

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    3. I am ashamed and shocked about this disgraceful punishment and especially about the highly unprofessional way of dealing with the situation by the federation, especially when you take into consideration that the decision wasn't that bad (at first, I even thought, he was correct, later on I still thought, the decision would be supportable).

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    4. We had the similar situation in Croatia: Zebec, Pajac and Matoc were suspended until further notice. Then Referees Committee was dismissed and Referee Comissioner for Croatian First League Ivan Novak canceled suspension given by Committee.

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    5. I agree with all of you. I am a young Slovak referee, who started a career 3 years ago, but this approach by committee is disgrace. Yes, it was a mistake that led to different result as should be. But this punishment is a big shame. And it is not for the first time in Slovakia. Tell me, how can young referees find any motivation when they see this kind of approach in our leagues?

      Punishment yes, but not this way.

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    6. Much more appropriate punishment would be that in the following 6 games he is only appointed in 2nd league, and then he starts to be appointed normally.

      If he made a mistake on purpose, then it should be life-long ban. If not, then you dont let your best referee suffer that way and lose trust of public and UEFA maybe. Sad decision.

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    7. Unbelievable. And what a impact this for tonight match

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    8. In Greece Klattenberg is destroying referees with public criticsm on HFF website.

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  18. Marciniak have a match in Ekstraklasa with regular assistant Sokolnicki, Listkiewicz on saturday 20.02.
    Possible cl match: 23/24.

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    1. I doubt it. No Gil as VAR in this game. Also same Marciniak said in an interview that he is facing heart rhythm problems after COVID and he expects to be back in UEFA competitions only in March.

      The interview: https://portalplock.pl/sport/szymon-marciniak-uciekalem-przed-koronawirusem-ale-bylem-za-wolny/wQwBUkzWOSyvGSv919EE

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    2. Maybe 1/16 LE?

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  19. Orsato is refereeing decisive match Cagliari - Torino with his UEFA ARs Preti & Giallatini on Friday night. He has probably an appointment in CL next week.

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  20. Is anyone else unable to watch Man United's game on CBS all access.

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  21. What is CBS all access

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  22. Very clear penalty whistled by Sidiropoulos to Crvena Zvezda for a blatant handball.

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    1. Now 59' - penalty to Milan.
      In my opinion very soft, but no VAR stuff.
      Rewatching it, Sidiropoulos wouldn't have whistled.
      Very easy fall.

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    2. Minute 70' YC Mandzukic, mandatory decision, very malicious movements with elbows, even twice, to be checked carefully...

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    3. Second YC to Crvena Zvezda can be discussed as well.
      To add, in the early minutes of first half (I didn't watch full game) VAR intervention for handball before another goal and it was then disallowed. A few earlier a correct offside call by AR confirmed by VAR, annulling a goal. Game full of crucial incidents, the only very clear decision was penalty to Crvena Zvezda.

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    4. Now missed offside before the corner, that leads to the 2-2, I think.

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  23. Correct 2nd YC by Istvan Kovacs in Braga - Roma.

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  24. Wrong offside by AR2 in RSO-MUN, ball was slightly ahead of attacker's foot. Correct VAR intervention.

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    1. Now AR2 correctly disallowes a goal for United in 67', it was close.

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  25. It looked like it was a toenail offside good call this time

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  26. Correct penalty + YC-DOGSO by Palabiyik for tripping.

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    1. Agree with the both penalty and YC-DOGSO decisions by Palabıyık. Correctly given decisions.

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  27. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuiC2gkXEAAIG-q?format=jpg&name=large

    If we could check out the picture above, it is clear that UEFA still counts handball not from the short sleeve but from the shoulder as opposed to what we see for example in the EPL, so what do IFAB recommend because I am really confused right now

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    1. The jersey has nothing to do with where to assess a handball. That's just what some people think. Handball is arm and hand, shoulder is not. And everybody knows where a shoulder is. Just do a lateral dumbell exercise and you see where the shoulder ends.

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    2. Clearly anonymous hasn't seen the diagram released by IFAB defining handball.

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    3. Exactly, the there is a diagram defining where the “hand” can be penalized for.

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  28. Missed 2yc or maybe straight red by Ekberg minute 91 for the clipmakers

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  29. Expected level from Schärer in RSO-MUN. Quite lenient approach fully understandable as the game wasn't either challenging or agitated. Possible room for 1/2 more YC, but no big deal or mandatory one missed. Good evening for the Swiss.

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  30. Ekberg spitted after final whistle. Not elegant for a top referee.

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    1. Meh, some refs chew gum. That looks much worse.

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  31. Cakir's new look is unusual... :)

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    1. I'm really shocked. Did not even recognize him.

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    2. Same. I saw a picture; f I had not been told it was Cakir, I never would have guessed it was him.

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    3. He looks like a mini Collina!

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  32. If that was Ekberg's final test before a possible promotion, I am sorry but he didn't pass it.

    The match was technically an easy one and the referee showed convincing body language and had control. But his disciplinary approach was poor.

    First at min. 68' N6 of PSV (already on a YC from 31') should have been sent-off. He fouls his opponent on a late and reckless manner. Ekberg only gave the free-kick.

    At min. 90+1 N24 of Olympiakos (already on a YC from 62') fouls his opponent and stops a promising attack in front of AR2. We can discuss a potential DOGSO (even though, IMO, it's a case of SPA) but the referee and AR2 waive play-on. Clear foul and a 2YC missed.

    I always rated Ekberg and still am but his performance today is not of an Elite referee.

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  33. SC BRAGA v AS ROMA

    KMI:
    37' - goal ROM correctly disallowed due to offside
    50' - penalty area incident: Roger Ibañez (ROM) impedes progress of Šporar (BRA)?
    54' - 2nd YC/RC Ricardo Esgaio (BRA) for reckless use of arm, fully correct
    60' - goal ROM correctly disallowed due to tight offside, well done AR2
    63' - penalty area incident: Nuno Sequeira (BRA) kicks the ball into his own arm

    Others:
    68', 76' (77') - missed fouls (and YC(s))?

    If someone is going to make clips, please include the two warnings issued between 14' and 16' to Galeno (BRA) for exaggerating contacts in order to win free kicks - great management there!

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  34. Several incredible mistakes in Belgrade. First of all, penalty for Milan. it is clear dive. There is one angle from behind where is so obvious that player fell all alone and after that Red Star player put his arm on him. Incredible that VAR didn't react. Second, elbow from Mandzukic at least had to be reviewed by Sidiropoulos. Right elbow, then left elbow - for me more RC. Elbow used as a weapon. Third, RC to Rodic. He didn't see the player at all, very debatable decision. Also, I think that that player was offside. Finally, corner before goal - it was offside. So several very crucial mistakes, for me the biggest one non existing PK for Milan.

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    1. Both penalties were correct decision, at least supportive. The second yellow was also a correct decision. I have not seen the other 2 incidents; handball or the yellow card for elbowing. Offside before a corner kick is a very minor error. With Clattenburg,unlike the previous situation with Pereira, Sidiropoulos are getting good games every week; and there is a clear improvement in his foul detection and body language. Has he become as good as Kuipers, Orsato, Cakir etc. No..But he is more experienced and more reliable than many others who are presented as strong candidates for the next Euro , for example Vincic , Kruzliak etc. Vincic's foul detection, man management and discipline on an easy game on Tuesday was not good enough.

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    2. Wrong penalty to Milan. Two meter offside missed before the corner kick (not a minor error). Missed RC for Mandzukic. Second YC better not to be given. Vincic and Kruzliak are much better referees overall than Sidiropoulos.

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  35. Penalty by Treimanis: contact on the line? Very interesting situation, VAR took some moments to confirm it.

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    1. I think it was inside, correct decision by Treimanis.

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  36. Good advantage by Kabakov prior to Rangers goal.

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  37. OFR in Tel-Aviv for Letexier, but he didn’t change his decision. To be rewatched.

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    1. Imagine Turpin telling his younger country man to rewatch and decision not changed. I am not saying anything bad but it is funny because of the disparity in levels😂😂

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    2. Probably a missed incident then.
      Difficult situation, but I think no penalty can be supported.

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  38. Penalty by Kabakov in 45+7': Careless kick against the calf, but also seemed like exaggerated falling by the attacker. So supportable decision, but not mandatory IMO.

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    1. Do you know why so long extra-time?

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    2. It was 4 minutes indicated, but the goal just before HT had a VAR check, then at least 90 seconds for an injury and then a later substitution which bumped it up to 2 minutes.

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    3. Because in 45+2,there was doctor on the pitch for player of RANGERS,about 3 min was stopped 5he game,and after that in 45+7 was penalty....

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  39. Correct penalty called by Cakir for handball. There was a delay in whistling, probably AR1 advised him

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    1. Quite effective cooperation with AR1 and correctly given penalty for handball.

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    2. Very good performance from Cakir at a challenging game. With his experience he was able to control the game without showing YC.

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    3. I agree, very good performance. I think this performance will justify further knockout appointments

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  40. Too many mistakes by ARs tonight...

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  41. Correct VAR intervention in Antwerp.

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    1. Question is should it have been a RC for DOGSO - striker on the six yard line about to head it towards goal?

      https://streamja.com/Kywvv

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    2. @Michael. No, there is no ball control.

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    3. It's a header so of course there's no ball control. But what is a free header six yards out if it's not an obvious goal scoring opportunity?

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  42. Not so good performance by Kruzliak in Lille - Ajax. A lot of problems in foul detection and some easy yellow cards

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  43. Now a wrong PK for Ajax by Kruzliak. Ajax player runs into the Lille defender, who doesn't make any move towards the Ajax player.
    VAR Marco Fritz calls him for OFR, but Krzliak doesn't change his decision

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    1. I will rewatch it, but to be honest my perception is that penalty can be given (At least...).

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    2. IMO it is no penalty, but wrong VAR intervention

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    3. Although it’s actually not really a penalty to me as well, there definitely was a movement of the leg towards the attacker. So I share Chefren’s idea that the intervention is questionable.

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    4. Quite soft IMO, but no need for VAR to intervene, as you can still back referee there.

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    5. Lots of talk about this one... for me the penalty call is correct. He trips at least the right leg of the attacker, maybe you can say the attacker was already going down, but that definitely sent him down even more. And let's not overlook the fact that, from the available angles that I've seen, it looks like the reason the attacker was going down in the first place is because the trip hit his left leg first. I think Kruzliak made the correct decision by sticking with his initial call.

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    6. ... not to mention the clear push in the back with an extended arm at the same time. The more I look at this play, the clearer of a penalty it seems to be.

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    7. I think it is not a PK. Similiar to Saka on sunday (vs. Cooper), I don't like strikers draging their leg along the floor to initiate contact. Harry Kane is also quite 'good' at this. Not easy to spot in real time though.

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  44. Strange OFR in Lille, to be honest, I think VAR was wrong in calling Kruzliak, there wasn't any evidence of a clear mistake.
    I'm surprised because German VAR in these situations showed to be always consistent in UEFA games: no intervention.
    I can't blame Kruzliak for confirming the penalty.

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    1. Really?
      IMO this is never a PK. Ajax player runs into Lille defender and just touch the defender's standing leg.
      For good order, I'm Dutch and have always supported Ajax, but I simply can't see how this is a PK

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    2. +1 Fully agree with Anonymous. As a Dutch Ajax-supporter too, I must say this decision was absolutely wrong. No penalty. If this isn't clear-and-obvious-VAR-material, than what is? I feel sorry for Kruzliak, first the suspension in his home nation, now an unimpressive performance in EL. He was incredibly nitpicky during a match that really needed a referee able to keep some tempo and flow in the match. The YC at 90+5 for simulation was probably correct, but more a penalty than the whistled penalty.

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    3. That's a disgraceful penalty. Completely agree with anonymous here. Ajax player looking for the leg and diving into it. I would even consider a YC for simulation here. Perfect OFR and Kruzliak completely wrong imo here.

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    4. +1 Absolutely perfect comment from Eogham. I agree with every word.

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    5. About penalty and OFR.... everybody is speaking about legs. What about right hand of the defender. For me no penalty but supportable from var becasue of defender’ s push with right hand .

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    6. +1 Agree with Marko23. But I think many fans and even referee's don't have a good eye for those legs that just stop working and slide along the ground to make contact. I call it 'Bein eingeschlafen', the leg went to sleep.

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    7. -1 for Marko123 and David for me :) Probably the “Bein eingeschlafen” idea came to the minds of the German VAR team as well, but the better idea would have been “Arm aufgewacht” (Renato Sanchez’s arm for clarity).

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    8. Dear all,
      Allow me to say something after
      Long period following this blog (and previous one as well,remember
      our passed away friend from Hungary)
      Slovakia issue: (I was with Lubos
      Michel in charge):
      - Why Michel ran out from Slovakia
      - why Sramka was hit by baseball bat at garage waiting for daughter from school
      Kruzliak doing obvious mistakes in domestic league.. .
      I do respect Chehren ,Michael and rest of profi supporters.
      I do respect all of you.
      Was just reading this blog for years
      Peter

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  45. How can you whistle penalty on that... Come on... Not an Elite performance from Kruzliak tonight, many problems in foul detection, resulting in this IMO wrong penalty.

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    1. His body language is not convincing. I don't see him as an elite referee either.

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    2. Quite uncertain presentation throughout the game indeed. Sometimes foul detection was also questionnable. However, he didn't show an Elite performance tonight but I saw him much better in previous games. Just a night below his standards I think.

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  46. IMO huge mistake from Treimanis to not show straight RC in 90+5 min.
    Clear intent to kick the opponet and after OfR he opted for just YC.

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  47. 90+5' - Treimanis is called for OFR as Salzburg's player cynically kicks his opponent and he shows a YC. I can't believe it! It seems referees are afraid of issuing even clear RCs nowadays...

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  48. Really soft penalty by Kruzliak to say at least. In my eyes a mistake. In his defence the news by the Slovakia FA earlier today was not helping Kruzliak coinfidence

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  49. Well, maybe an unpopular opinion, but a great night for Kružliak and his team.

    Let's start with the PK. Right on the first shot of OFR you can see a clear push by the defender later made stronger by the trip. Good PK in my opinion and a wrong call for OFR.

    AR2 with a bad offside call in the 1st half, but 2 good fouls in the 2nd.

    AR1 with a fantastic offside call in 65', shot off a post and then interfering with an opponent.

    Kružliak was very consistent with YC and while had passages where he let two match go, he was always in control. Not to mention a fantastic diving call in 95'.

    Overall very solid performance by the entire team and well handled only KMI of the match.

    R - 8.5
    AR1 - 8.4
    AR2 - 8.3
    VAR - 7.9

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    1. I was about to post exactly what you mention! Apart from the contact at the leg there is a push by the arm slightly before. Whether or not enough for a penalty is debatable, but the intervention in my opinion is a wrong one.

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    2. Exactly, a PK call that is debatable but not a chance that is a clear and obvious mistake

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    3. A clip of the course of events regarding the penalty awarded to Ajax:

      https://streamable.com/9ajbfe

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    4. This penalty is simply a joke...

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    5. At 2:05 of the video DutchRef provided for us, you can see the clear push by the defender that puts the attacker off-balance. You can think the PK is debatable, but once called, there is no way you can call it a clear and obvious mistake and overturn it.

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    6. There is no reason to whistle a penalty. Before this, it's a offense foul...
      Clear mistake...

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    7. JR, where do you see the offensive foul?

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    8. Offensive foul? I really see nothing that even comes close to an offensive foul in this video.
      And considering the pushing movement of the defender’s arm the penalty at the very least is a supportable call IMO.

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    9. Tripping. The striker clearly causes the defender to fall (through his own action)

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    10. @JR That’s a highly unconventional opinion :) But even if one decides to consider it your way, still the push by the defender came before the leg contact.

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    11. I can not see any kind of pushing. There is an arm away from the body, but no push at all.

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    12. With respect to your opinions: That CAN'T be a PK!
      No active movement by the defender. I'm not too sure about the OFR.
      If he saw it that was himself, I would say: No OFR
      If there is a difference between the pictures and his perception, then the OFR perfectly fits.

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    13. In my opinion, the touch by right arm makes this situation not VAR stuff, this was what I was watching yesterday. Then we can discuss about the penalty call, but never 100% wrong in my opinion. Also, we can't reasoning without knowing what exactly Kruzliak wanted to punish. However, VAR shouldn't have intervened.

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    14. I think: If Kruzliak wanted to punish e. g. the contact at the legs and did not realize the arm contact, the OFR would be justified, as he should have a look himself, if he consideres that as enough for a penalty.
      If he saw the "foul" just as the pictures showed it, the OFR would be questionable, as it isn't clear and obvious.

      Beside that, calling this minor contact a PK, is unbelievable. If he has the offer to have a look, he could easily reject it.

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    15. I mean, UEFA referees have called PKs like this the entire last year and I think one word describes this situation - JUSTIFIABLE. This the kind of 50/50 contacts, where it is up to a referee and I would be OK with both decisions. @Flip had an interesting point - if we are talking about the leg contact, that is not a PK in a milion years, the player was already falling when the contact was made. And if Kružliak saw only that, the OFR was correct. But if the point of the OFR was the arm contact (which seems more probable with the shot they chose), Kružliak was absolutely correct to stand by his decision. Because we cannot deny the contact is there and it pushes the player off-balance.

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    16. Interesting opinions, I would even go further: You could say it's a dive that should have been punished with an IDFK and a YC. On the video, you can clearly see that the attacker is trying to 'hook' with the foot, he wants to make contact with the defender in order to deceive the referee. As a result of this initiated contact, the attacker is already on his way to the ground. Yes, he gets a slight push that is too light for a PK and most importantly did not the reason for the fall. The fall, especially that he tries to 'get' a contact with his foot, looks very unnatural to me. Considering this, in my view the penalty decision can is not really supportable.

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    17. I strongly disagree with Ref_1707’s diving theory. In my opinion the attacker does not hook himself into defender’s leg. To the contrary, the slight push of defender makes the attacker off-balance (to the right), with the consequence that the leg swings to the left. Actually this looks a very natural natural fall to me.
      Another element to highlight is the EXCELLENT position of Kruzliak to assess the challenge. Only point of discussion could be whether or not the push is considered enough for a penalty.
      But from my perspective a clear mistake by the German VAR team to advise an OFR.

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    18. I finally just watched this incident for the first time and after examining it very closely it's definitely a penalty the push with the arm is enough to give it and for me OFR is wrong and unwarranted because to me once it's given there isn't enough evidence that it's a clear and obvious error

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  50. Please stop please. Shocking bad night tonight. Treimanis, Kubakov in Belgium, Ekberg, Karasev and I can go on. What a bad night

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  51. Frappart with an extremely easy game. Penalty given clear as day, for me another one missed but VAR didn't even seem to check, so who knows.

    But ARs with one crucial offside/onside decision for goals overturned by VAR.

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  52. @90+1': a YC for dissent could be correct, even if it was a missed foul before.
    Then it would be 6 correct YCs and only one wrong card in that time, which doesn't sound too bad.
    But that's just the impression from reading your comment, I haven't watched it myself.

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  53. ig terrible night tonight. Especially from “talent” group 1 referees. For me Treimanis not ready, after Porto game now again a big mistake 90+5. The VAR call him, why you give then yellow for this clear red card.

    Kabakov again mistake. This season with Inter game 3 crucial mistakes.

    Kruzliak kruzliak kruzliak. You had a chance to change your decision when the VAR call you and then still gave a penalty. What can I say.

    Karasev....

    Letexier OFR, ignoring Turpin

    Ekberg, not a big talent. And the same level as Karasev, Aytekin, Bastien, Kubakov, Kruzliak

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  54. Predictions for next week (VAR in brackets):
    Lazio - Bayern: Hategan (Gil)
    Atletico - Chelsea: Brych (Fritz)
    Gladbach - Manchester: Turpin (Letexier)
    Atalanta - Real: Soares Dias (Martins)

    Tottenham - Wolfsberg: Jug (Sanchez)
    Arsenal - Benfica: Orsato (Guida)
    Glasgow - Antwerp: Siebert (Dingert)
    Villareal - Salzburg: Raczkowski (Marciniak)
    Hoffenheim - Molde: Gil Manzano (de Burgos)
    Napoli - Granada: Stieler (Dankert)
    Donetsk - Tel Aviv: Meler (Bitigen)
    Amsterdam - Lille: Collum (Tierney)
    Brugge - Kiev: Bastien (Delajod)
    Manchester - San Sebastian: Jovanovic (Meshkov)
    Milan - Belgrade: Kulbakov (Gil)
    Leicester - Prague: Zwayer (Stegemann)
    Roma - Braga: Grinfeeld (Reinshreiber)
    Zagreb - Krasnodar: Gözübüyük (Higler)
    Leverkusen - Bern: Oliver (Kavanagh)
    Eindhoven - Piraeus: Taylor (Attwell)

    Disclaimer: I did not consider potential travel restrictions.

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  55. Maybe this is a stupid question but why let the UEFA Kruzliak whistle after his punishment in Slovakia?

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    1. The information only came out Thursday morning, so it was impossible to replace him and his ARs

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    2. Ahh that makes sense. Weird timing of Slovak FA then

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    3. To be honest, the entire situation seems weird. Referee Comitee chieftan Marián Ružbarský came out on TV several times to say it was "not even debatable a decision and should have definitely gone the other way" and it was "a decision on par with a scandal". He is not wrong, but for him to come out like that is very unfortunate for Kružliak.

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    4. True, but that penalty was - even as the penalty yesterday - ridiculous. I don't know if there is VAR in Slovenia but that would make it even worser.

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    5. I guess you meant Slovakia, not Slovenia? :)

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    6. Ah yes hahahaa. Always confuse them.

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  56. Dr. Felix Brych is appointed to today evening's Bundesliga match, so quite sure that he will handle a match in UCL next week.

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  57. Here is the video of the above mentioned incident from Treimanis' game. YC? Really?

    https://streamable.com/k4oybd

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    1. Very disappointed to watch what Treimanis did here!
      Starting from the beginning: very shocking to whistle foul without issuing any card! He should have perceived the (at least) reckless nature of the foul. This was very dangerous for the safety of opponent, and that's first thing.
      Then, I agree with VAR, this looks to be deliberate, but he decided for YC.
      I'm sorry to say that these are evident technical gaps, that wont allow the Latvian to reach Elite Category. Too many evident mistakes in his recent games.
      I'm really sorry because he showed to have a great potential, but in front of such incidents... one can't defend him.

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    2. Agreed Chefren, you could clearly see that the kick was not only reckless but intentional. It's a VC. Good work by VAR.

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    3. Wow, after having looked at it still YC?
      Onr shouldn't avoid RCs at all costs, when it's simply not possible!

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    4. As Chefren stated above, even worse that in real time he had a perfect view and didn't even deem it as reckless...

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    5. Fully agree with Chefren; Shocked don't see a RED card

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    6. Agree. Horrible decision

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  58. Maccabi Tel Aviv - Shakhtar Donetsk OFR by Letexier, final decision NO PENALTY:
    https://streamable.com/a9pl1q

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    1. Grey area : little contact and hand on shoulder yes but not a big one and seemed ball was very higher for attacker to play the ball. Supportable call IMO has penalty should be very soft here.

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    2. Agree, for me mistake by Turpin to call OFR, even more because Letexier had made signals after the incident, so not a 100% missed incident.

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    3. IMO quite clear No PK, he eben indicates that he has seen it himself. No need for an OFR.

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    4. I don‘t think OFR was wrong, because there was another contact in the foot area. I doubt that Leitexier saw that on the field.

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    5. But quite bad positiong of the referee. He should have expected the cross but he is moving backwards. So at the moment of potential holding he is 20 meters away.

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    6. For me this isn't a penalty and I think the OFR in this situation is also wrong as not giving it isn't a clear and obvious error

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    7. I don’t think the OFR was wrong, we don’t know the discussion the referee and his VAR have and that is what makes an OFR necessary or not. If we take this for example, three is no way the referee would have seen the use of an arm from where he was positioned because it was on his blind side and clearly that was what Turpin was showing him. He would have told Turpin what he saw and Turpin would have said there is an angle where the arm of the defender makes contact with the attacker and clearly Letexier didn’t see that, hence that formed the basis of an OFR. OFR doesn’t just happen because the VAR decides it but it depends solely on their discussions

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  59. Braga v Roma

    15' - management of Galeno's (BRA) simulations
    https://streamable.com/0qdbre

    50' - penalty appeal BRA
    https://streamable.com/q03jsm

    54' - 2nd YC / RC Ricardo Esgaio (BRA) for reckless use of arm
    https://streamable.com/2qg2yp

    63' - penalty appeal ROM, handball
    https://streamable.com/dcfodn

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    1. 50' for me clear PK, barges into the opponent. UEFA for some reason are adamant to not punish such a foul if it rolls out of play, but that is not the case here.
      63' Not a handball for me, because the defender plays the ball and that is important here, because the arms are on shoulder hight.

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    2. Excellent management of simulations, most of referees at maximum wouldn't have whistled, he added something more with the warning.
      Regarding the penalty appeal, could have been whistled but such situations are very often assessed at referee's discretion. Clearly not stuff for VAR intervention, very likely he will be backed by observer.
      Second YC is very clear decision and I agree with no penalty for handball

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    3. What card in case of penalty in 63'?

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  60. Hategan will whistle tomorrow in Romania. He has his full team with Sovre and Hategan, so maybe an appointment coming?

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  61. Sparta Prague - Leicester City

    28' Penalty appeal - NO VAR intervention
    https://streamable.com/o9o7al

    34' Handball outside the box, confirmed by VAR
    https://streamable.com/ifjgcw

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    1. 28' Good call by the referee and good no-intervention by the VAR IMO. Barnes is looking for contact and puts his foot in front of the defender, but he is not in control of the ball or in a better position than the defender.

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    2. Totally agree with David (as in Kovács clips) - Guida should be praised for increasing his presence brilliantly at 28'. That is how to take the lead in football refereeing!

      To be honest I didn't think such high class move was in Guida's arsenal - impressive!

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    3. Sorry, just to correct my previous post - SLAVIA Prague :)
      I agree that first situation is NO PENALTY, good decision.

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  62. Predictions for next week–KO debut for Monzul (in a tie which looks settled), and Hategan returns in his home country.

    ATM-CHE (from Bucharest): Hategan (Irrati)
    LAZ-BAY: Turpin (Letexier)
    ATA-RMD: Brych (Dankert)
    BMG-MC (from Budapest): Marciniak (Gil)

    TOT-WAC: Monzul (Stegemann)
    AJX-LIL: Manzano (Martínez Munuera)
    NAP-GRA: Jovanovic (Dingert)
    SHK-MAC: Massa (Guida)
    RAN-ANT: Grinfeld (Reinshreiber)
    ARS-BEN: Orsato (Di Bello)
    HOF-MOL: Vincic (Mariani)
    VIL-SAL: Gözübüyük (van Boekel)
    LC-SLP: Dias (Martins)
    MIL-ZVE: Collum (Pawson)
    MU-RSO: Bebek (Fritz)
    ROM-BRA: Madden (Attwell)
    BRU-DKV: Bastien (Brisard)
    B04-YB: Dabanovic (Blom)
    DZG-KRA: del Cerro Grande (Hernández)
    PSV-OLY: Stieler (Zwayer)

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    1. Nothing against your prediction, just a general statement: if Monzul gets an EL KO stage game after what happened in Gent - Slovan Liberec, then we can all give up.

      To be fair, that eventuality seems very unlikely to me. It's hard enough to accept Frappart's progress, but at least she didn't make a total mess of any game...

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    2. Difficult to see Monzul in KO stage indeed, Frappart had a by far better experience than her in Men's Competitions. I think what Kateryna achieved so far is simply not enough to officiate in EL KO stage, apart from the not perfect performance in Gent - Slovan Liberec. But if committee wants to accelerate everything...

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    3. ATM-CHE: Hategan (Irrati)
      LAZ-BAY: Turpin (Letexier)
      ATA-RMD: Brych (Dankert)
      BMG-MC : Orsato (Di Bello)

      TOT-WAC: Frankowski (Raczkowski)
      AJX-LIL: Manzano (Martínez Munuera)
      NAP-GRA: Jovanovic (Attwell)
      SHK-MAC: Massa (Guida)
      RAN-ANT: Dabanovic (Mariani)
      ARS-BEN: Grinfeeld (Reinshreiber)
      HOF-MOL: Visser (Blom)
      VIL-SAL: Gözübüyük (van Boekel)
      LC-SLP: Hernandez Hernandez (Verissimo)
      MIL-ZVE: Dias (Martins)
      MU-RSO: Gil (Marciniak)
      ROM-BRA: Siebert (Stegemann)
      BRU-DKV: Bastien (Brisard)
      B04-YB: Massa (Guida)
      DZG-KRA: Jug (Zwayer)
      PSV-OLY: Stieler (Dingert)

      Yes, i also think Monzul is impossible. Gent was a mess in a totally unimportant game. Can‘t even compare to Frappart.

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    4. Turpin is appointed in Ligue 1 on Sunday, so we won't see him in CL on Tuesday. Perhaps Wednesday, or EL.

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    5. I think Monzul will not appointed in KO Stage because his difficult situation between Gent - Liberec.

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    6. Agree with most of your prediction, but I think Hernandez Hernandez will not be in EL KO stage as a main referee. Also, Turpin and Hatagan are more likely in EL, and I would love to see Massa or Grinfeeld or Manzano in CL next week.

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  63. Did anyone see Mateu yesterday? I haven't seen any comments, so I guess no trouble, but who knows...

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  64. I do not know if friends here watch EFL championship. Derby's disallowed goal was so ridiculous, but at the same time, I was not too surprised because 80% EFL championship referees are terrible

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    1. Yes I saw it and totally agree. If Derby had fouled the Watford defender then in the same play you could justify a pk for the Watford player holding one of the Derby players shirt.

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