Sunday, 11 November 2018

2018 Copa Libertadores Final: Boca Juniors - River Plate, first leg (Discussion)

Roberto Tobar from Chile has been appointed by CONMEBOL to handle the first leg of 2018 Copa Libertadores final, Boca Juniors - River Plate. 

The game, originally planned for Saturday 10 November, has been postponed to Sunday 11 November due to weather and pitch conditions.
This is the full appointment for the first leg of Argentinian Superclásico:


We wish good luck to officiating crew!
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  1. JR11 November 2018 at 18:15

    OT:
    https://www.mdr.de/sport/fussball_3l/video-248104_zc-c3cf8d64_zs-59ba73d7.html

    3rd german division: 1860 München against Hallescher FC
    opinions?

    1. Minute 1:00
    2. Minute 3:30
    3. Minute 6:00

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    1. Philipp S11 November 2018 at 19:24

      1. Holding is minimal, but existing. Borderline between SPA and DOGSO. Overall quite harsh decision, but not a clear mistake
      2. Clear dive, penalty is a mistake
      3. Unusual decison, but seeing it as offence by the GK is not completely unreasonable. Then, you can also consider it as SFP. Would be interesting to hear what DFB thinks about it, i.e. which interpretation is wanted here.

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  2. Mikael W11 November 2018 at 19:39

    If you are interested how the last Superclásico went for the referees, then you can find out in my report from last month below.

    http://kronikasedziowska.blogspot.com/p/bocajuniorsriverplate.html

    Good luck to Roberto Tobar's team tonight!

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  3. George11 November 2018 at 19:56

    Another wrong offside by Mateu's AR2 Iker de Francisco Grijalba. So far this season, I can't remember a match in which he hasn't made a crucial mistake corrected by VAR.

    Problem with this is that the one who is on top of VAR interventions per match is Mateu Lahoz, with 6 (IIRC), of which 5 have been mistakes by that AR. But this last part is never stated on the media and the main referee gets a press he hasn't earned, which is not really fair.

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  4. M11 November 2018 at 20:08

    Already in 5 minutes we saw 2 fouls that on another day and on another match would be YC.
    But that wasn't unexpected.

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  5. Quilava11 November 2018 at 20:25

    At least River #20 and Boca #22 deserved a YC there...

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    1. M11 November 2018 at 20:28

      Difference between UEFA and CONMEBOL referees.

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    2. Quilava11 November 2018 at 20:29

      Yep. UEFA RAPs instruct referees to issue at least a YC to a player of each team.

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    3. Quilava11 November 2018 at 20:30

      (in case of those kind of confrontations)

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    4. VG11 November 2018 at 20:31

      Putting a choke hold is violent conduct. But in south america not

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  6. M11 November 2018 at 20:43

    Game is heating up rapidly.

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  7. Mikael W11 November 2018 at 20:55

    What a luck for Tobar, he whistles a zero foul in order to calm the game, and then Boca score...

    Shame, yes he bent the LOTG but, he managed that 1H well in my opinion, finding the right moment on the pitch for the opening YC. His firm, authoritarian style is succeeding on the pitch. His fitness is disappointing though.
    Whether this game might 'explode' à la Stark in RLM-BAR, is another question, a bit separate from the referee's work.

    Good luck for 2H.

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  8. Mikael W11 November 2018 at 21:10

    Excellent YC now for dissent by making the VAR signal (we need to see this more often).
    Both penalty appeals correctly rejected in the last minutes for my taste.

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    1. VG11 November 2018 at 21:22

      Actually that wasn’t what the card was for. It was for a gesture. He made the VAR sign after Tobar already took out the card.

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    2. Philipp S11 November 2018 at 21:24

      My impression was, that the YC was for diving.

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    3. Quilava11 November 2018 at 21:27

      No, Tobar made the gesture of verbal dissent with his hand after issuing the YC.

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  9. M11 November 2018 at 21:38

    Ughhhh.It would have been bery brave if ref showed 2nd yellow for hand gesture.

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  10. Quilava11 November 2018 at 21:55

    Well. Trap avoided. Felicidades, señor Tobar.

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  11. Mikael W11 November 2018 at 21:59

    Not the best technical performance (no real predictable card line, bending LOTG and closing his eyes), but Tobar facilitated a good show, always had the control, and probably both teams will be reasonably content with his officiating which felt 'fair'.

    So he fulfilled the basic requirements of this match, and he should sleep contently tonight.

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  12. Chiagozie11 November 2018 at 22:33

    Ruddy buquet AR1 has had a bad day at the office so far 3wrong offside calls correctly overturned by VAR

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    1. Ref11 November 2018 at 23:26

      Indeed, the same who made a wrong offside call in EL this season (Glasgow Rangers - Rapid Wien)...

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  13. Nathan M.12 November 2018 at 09:39

    Some International friendlies appointments:

    14 November 2018, 19:00
    SWITZERLAND - QATAR
    Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
    Assistant Referee 1: Charles Schaap (NED)
    Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
    Fourth Official: Urs Schnyder (SUI)

    15 November 2018, 20:45
    GERMANY - RUSSIA
    Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
    Assistant Referee 1: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
    Assistant Referee 2: Jean-Yves Wicht (SUI)
    Fourth Official: Alain Bieri (SUI)

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    1. Euro Soccer Ref12 November 2018 at 10:30

      Most likely Gözübüyük will be replaced. He has a UNL game on 15 November.

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    2. Nathan M.12 November 2018 at 10:32

      Indeed, he has been removed from the match

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