Wednesday, 21 October 2020

Champions League 2020/21 - Referee Appointments - Matchday 1 (II)

Second set of referee appointments for 2020-21 UEFA Champions League Group Stage, Matchday 1.  Games to be played on 21 October 2020. 

21 October 2020

18:55 CET - Zenit (Stadion Salzburg)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) | Group A
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Joost van Zuilen (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Johan Balder (NED)
Fourth Official: Bas Nijhuis (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Šajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Alojzije Šupraha (CRO)

18:55 CET - Madrid (Estadio Alfredo Di Stéfano)
Real Madrid CF (ESP) - FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) | Group B
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Eugène Westerink (NED)

21:00 CET - Munich (Fußball Arena)
FC Bayern München (GER) - Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) | Group A
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Craig Pawson (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Jean Paul Mievis (BEL)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale (ITA) - VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach | Group B
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin Zeinstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Allan Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jan de Vries (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ichko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: João Morais (POR)

21:00 CET - Piraeus (Stadio Georgios Karaiskakis)
Olympiacos FC (GRE) - Olympique de Marseille (FRA) | Group C
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Fourth Official: Piero Giacomelli (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Giorgio Peretti (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolphe Mannaerts (BEL)

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - FC Porto (POR) | Group C
Referee: Andris Treimanis (LVA) 
Assistant Referee 1: Haralds Gudermanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleksejs Spasjonnikovs (LVA)
Fourth Official: Aleksandrs Golubevs (LVA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Kevin Blom (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Jeroen Roest (NED)

21:00 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
AFC Ajax (NED) - Liverpool FC (ENG) | Group D
Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mark Borsch (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Fourth Official: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)

21:00 CET - Herning (Arena Herning)
FC Midtjylland (DEN) - Atalanta BC (ITA) | Group D
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: João Pinheiro (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Olivier Chovaux (FRA)

101 comments:

  1. So entire Referees Committee (except Damkova) is active in observing referees on Wednesday. Great matches for Treimanis and Jovanovic in front of Batta and Dallas, I even expected elite referee in Manchester. Obviously, based on on the fact Rosetti will observe him, big match for Michael Oliver.

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  2. It seems as this season EL appointments for grup stage will be released on Tuesday, nothing so far.

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  3. Very hot Wednesday in Champions League for UEFA referees!
    All committee members are out, as Referee 12 pointed out.
    Big tests for Gozubuyuk and Oliver, if you ask me, and then Treimanis as well.

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    1. Was it really needed to use Makkelie and Marciniak as VARs? They are very good referees, nothing against them, but UEFA should use a larger pool of referees for these different roles. Using the same names over and over again, on the field and as VAR, does not look very good for the development of referees across Europe. UEFA is not only about several FAs, but needs better representation.

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  4. Brych and Ajax seems to be a never ending love story ;) If I am correct, it is his fourth appointment with the Dutch club in their last 12 games (since RMA-AJA in March 2019). Quite remarkable!

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    1. I'm a fan off Ajax, but also a referee, indeed you are correct... Real-Ajax, Ajax-Tottenham, Lille-Ajax, and now ajax-Liverpool

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    2. And yet he is one of the few without controversies, so that's why UEFA can easily appoint him to a game involving Ajax again.

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  5. Well I think it's long overdue for Oliver because over the last two seasons the committee thought it best not to give him any sonorous match after the Juventus vs Real Madrid that was termed Controversial and also the change from Collina to Rosetti also played a big role in that, and my thinking is that Taylor who Oliver was quite ahead of when Collina was in charge, maybe due to age on Oliver's side and not so much on Taylor's side Rosetti decided to slow things down for the younger English man and give the Older English man the opportunity, that being said Oliver is quite preferred at FIFA than Taylor. That's my take on the 2 English men

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    1. I would also think that Oliver is the better of the two despite the problems at Everton on sat which was more a cock up by the VAR teamm which is quite common in England

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    2. IMO Taylor is better than Oliver.

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    4. You actually opened a blogger account to fulminate this dredge? Get a life...

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  6. EL appointments still on Monday?

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  7. Do you know when is the date for send new international referees list?

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    1. I still don't find the official circular on fifa.com, maybe this year it will be different due to the very particular situation.
      In normal conditions, the deadline should have been already over.
      Last year it was on 01/10.
      Let's see whether we will know more on next days.

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    2. This time special deadline: 3 January 2021.

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    3. Also, nominations will only be accepted on a case-by-case basis, taking into account possible replacements for retired referees, due to the special circumstances of the 2020 season.

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    4. Although January 3 was communicated verbally to the national FAs, FIFA changed their mind recently and announced November 8.

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  8. It seems that UEFA will accelerate the development of some referees since there will be a couple of retirements next year. On that context, Treimanis and Jovanovic appointments are normal.

    First big clash for Oliver after the infamous RM-JUV match. Let's see how it will go.

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    1. UEFA seem to be focused on the five U17 World Cup attendees i.e. Jovanovic, Ekberg, Treimanis, Kabakov & Kovács, ironically the latter is the only one already in Elite and at the same time the referee in which UEFA is less focused).

      UEFA is currently on a transition period with lots of important retirements already or close to (generation of Kassai, Eriksson, Mazic, Rocchi, Orsato, Brych, Kuipers, Çakir, Skomina...)

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    2. Kovacs is the only one in that group that comes from a country that already has an Elite referee.

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    3. Another reason is that those 4 referees you mentioned are among the UEFA candidates for WC2022.

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  9. OT

    What do you think of that scene? (Penalty, Goal, finally Penalty)

    https://streamable.com/2qfzim

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    1. "What do you think of this scene?"

      A complete mess. You must not give a goal if the ball didn't cross the goal line when you whistle.

      Playing advantage there after waiting for 1-2 seconds is 'expert' but penalty is ok.

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    2. A clear example of why "wait and see" is the golden rule of refereeing!

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  10. Excellent match for Michael Oliver. I hope he does well.

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  11. Italy Serie B
    Matchweek 4

    Tuesday 20th October

    21:00 Ascoli - Reggiana
    Francesco Meraviglia - Valentino Fiorito - Alessio Berti - Giacomo Camplone

    21:00 Chievo Verona - Brescia
    Valerio Marini - Marco Scatragli - Francesco Fiore - Matteo Gariglio

    21:00 Cittadella -Pordenone
    Manuel Volpi - Niccolo Pagliardini - Gabriele Nuzzi - Alberto Santoro

    21:00 Empoli - Spal
    Fabrizio Pasqua - Pietro Dei Giudici - Michele Grossi - Davide Ghersini

    21:00 Frosinone - Virtus Entella
    Ivano Pezzuto - Alessandro Cipressa - Luigi Lanotte - Matteo Marchetti

    21:00 LR Vicenza - Salernitana
    Lorenzo Illuzzi - Andrea Tardino - Fabio Schirru - Alessandro Prontera

    21:00 Pisa - Monza
    Marco Piccinini - Davide Miele - Alessio Saccenti - Luca Massimi

    21:00 Reggina - Cosenza
    Riccardo Ros - Oreste Muto - Domenico Palermo - Francesco Fourneau

    21:00 Venezia - Pescara
    Lorenzo Maggioni - Gamal Mokhtar - Gaetano Massara - Daniel Amabile

    Wednesday 21st October

    19:00 Lecce - Cremonese
    Daniele Paterna - Rodolfo Di Vuolo - Antonio Vono - Federico Dionisi

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  12. Who was the best Luis medina or mejuto Gonzalez in Spain ?

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    1. Mejuto was by far the best!...

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    2. This again... ?

      I think it was Borbolan.

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  13. Borbolan not in their generation

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  14. Saudi league in week 1 officiated by local officials

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    1. Good for their own referee development.

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  15. https://www.uefa.com/womenseuro/matches/2021/qualifying/
    Open the page of the respective game and you can find the officials appointed.
    Example:
    https://www.uefa.com/womenseuro/match/2027380--denmark-vs-israel/

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  16. Tuesday 27.10 Sweden vs Iceland with Stéphanie Frappart and Finland vs Scotland with Esther Staubli

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  17. Soares Dias with a disappointing appointment...

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  18. In PSG-Man U, the play at https://youtu.be/yUn_xbPt2aI?t=247 is a clear penalty to me. This apparent missed call, along with Oliver's missed red card on the tackle on van Dijk recently and the missed yellow card and penalty kick on Kompany's tackle against Jesus in the Belgium-Brazil game that completely changed the outcome of the 2018 World Cup. has left me feeling quite sad as to the current state of refereeing. Unfortunately, it is referees' mistakes that stand out rather than their overall good performances, but such is the importance of their calls. And it is probably just a few mistakes recently that cast a negative light on them, whereas most of the time the elite referees do a great job.

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  19. Real 0-3 at home... who would have expected that???

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  20. Salzburg-Lokomotiv Moscow, easy going and smooth for referee Gozubuyuk. Correct yellow for using arm, maybe missed foul for step on foot, but sure missed yellow for late tackle by Moscow defender 44th. But not big problems for referee.

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    1. Also missed yellow after excellent advantage.

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  21. Gozubuyuk missed a clear foul before Lok scored the 2:2.
    Guess in Germany VAR would have intervened

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    1. I think foul also. But ion Uefa guidelines, do you think Var must act?

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    2. Personally I think yes, but I'm any thing else than an expert with the VAR protocol. Other opinions?

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  22. Very crucial offside call in Madrid by AR1 right now (79'), correct decision. AR1 waited for the end of action before raising flag. So far a very positive impression by Serbian team in an unexpected very open game between Real and Shakhtar.

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  23. 3-3 by Real Madrid should be disallowed by VAR after OFR.
    Missed offside by AR2, I think he should have detected it by himself.

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    1. Agree was quite obvious, would be interesting to hear the conversation

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  24. Good VAR intervention in Madrid by Marciniak confirmed by Jovanovic, Vinicius was offside and obstructed GK's vision.

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    1. Clear offside, AR should have raised his flag.

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    2. First was absolutely correct and deserved, second was harsh I agree.

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  25. Very long penalty check in Manchester: the penalty by Treimanis seems to be absolutely correct, but before that possible foul by Gundogan on keeper. Tricky situation, VAR is called to a very important decision.

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    1. That’s a foul. Hard to detect live, mandatory for VAR. Bad decision by Kamphuis and Dutch VAR team

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    2. I seem to be the only one, but ok for me. Goalkeeper slides in with leg in front and both attacker as well as goalkeeper touch ball. Attacker cannot do anything to prevent the contact. Could be whistled, could be play on in my opinion.

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    3. Clear foul!!! In fact, this is example of reckless challenge! How VAR didn't intervene remains a mystery to me...

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  26. How much more clear can a foul be? How many angles do you need to look at to see that Gundogan stomps on the Porto's GK's shin?

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  27. 2 harsh Yellow cards by Oliver against Bayern. Especially the second one wasn‘t even a foul for me. Oliver first wanted to play on

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    1. First was correct, second was harsh I agree.

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    2. the second one wasn't even a foul. First one was acceptable (although not necessary)

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    3. And now he needed to give the three YCs for Atletico to stay consistent. They were not mandatory on their own, but the expected decisions after the early Bayern bookings.

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    4. Lots of cards in an actually easy match.

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  28. Total nonsense in Manchester. Absolutely impossible to award a penalty after such a clear foul.

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  29. Situations like the one that we all just witnessed in Manchester erodes the very little trust/confidence many have in regards to the actual usefulness of VAR. Get situations right or just scrap it all and return to the less confusing times we had before.

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    1. The reason why, as you say, 'many have very little trust/confidence in regards to the actual usefulness of VAR' is not because VARs, as humans, obviously, time in time make a mistake (while, of course, tremendously reducing the number of clear and obvious errors), it's because they lack the intelligence and common sense to understand that and to be neutral while using their brain, not listening to what others say without any knowledge. Plus some other reasons.

      If you think that much more correct decisions is less important than..., to be honest, I can't name any negative things that the implementation of VAR has brought to football, except, yes, some confusion, but this situation, for me, doesn't add much more confusion to what would be without VAR, it was just a really incorrect decision, an in the big picture confusion is caused not by the implementation of VAR, it is caused by ridiculous actions by FAs such as England's and also lack of coordination where FIFA and IFAB is also to blame. But the main point - the fact that the VAR system has flaws doesn't mean we should abolish it - just as we do not abolish the match official role 'referee' just because referees sometimes make mistkaes -, we should keep polishing it - just as we keep polishing referees.

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    2. I would agree with you. But then we would both be wrong.

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  30. While Treimanis correctly determined that Pepe commited a foul, VAR should have intervened because he missed what was an offensive foul by Manchester City against Porto's goalkeeper. IMO it surely was a clear and obvious error.

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  31. I must say that I like that Treimanis is punishing City for their EPL style "goon" tactics and rough play. Finally a UCL referee that correctly deals with wannabe "hardman" goon Kyle Walker.

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  32. Good offside decision by AR2 in Munich in my view. Let‘s see what VAR says

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    1. Better management than in Madrid. Good cooperation between Oliver and AR2

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  33. Now in Munchen similar situation to Real - Shakhtar, but in this case a bit less evident and one could discuss. Still offside expected decision, and I must say very good by AR2. VAR should confirm such call, in case of allowed goal maybe referee would have been invited to make an OFR, but I'm not 100% sure.

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  34. Great first half by Brych at Amsterdam.

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    1. Brych is having a super year, without any controversy. He has been the most consistent UEFA referee in 2019-2020.

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    2. I wouldn't say his first half was great: there was literally nothing to do. Second half was more challenging but he did well, no problems for him.

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    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkeiTGMkQic&feature=youtu.be

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    4. Is this PK? what do you think?

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  35. VAR intervention in Olympiacos - Marseille, 1-0 has been disallowed. I must say very difficult for assistant referee, extremely tight offside.

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  36. Today "paired cases" rule has become apparent. And in both situations there were Dutch VARs. In my opinion, their nonintervention was against common sense.

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  37. OFR in Milan. Clear penalty in my opinion, good decision. Kuiperrs had missed it.

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    1. He showed that he didnt saw situation coz his view was blocked

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  38. Good VAR intervention in Milan, I think it was an easy decision for Kuipers to whistle a PK without VAR!

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  39. The most difficult offside situation now to assess for Makkelie...

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  40. Kamena: are you the former FIFA referee from Bulgaria? Still involved in football?

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  41. Here is a clip of the aforementioned situation from the Manchester City - FC Porto game.

    https://streamable.com/xsc8a8

    In my view, the question we should be asking is "Reckless or Serious Foul Play?", not "is that a clear and obvious foul?"; sorry, but I find Kamphuis' non-intervention unacceptable.

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    1. I agree, clear foul, very clear mistake.

      For me it is never a SFP because of the context of the contact (gk sliding, player couldnt avoid it and the movement is normal), but it is reckless for sure.

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    2. I do think an OFR was needed and this is reckless for me not SFP.

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  42. There are two possible explanations for that situation in City-Porto. Either Treimanis said Kamphuis he saw situation well and he doesn't need OFR. Or Kamphuis simply did not intervene, but I must be honest, that foul is so blatant and clear that it is unbelieveble that he did not intervene. And I agree, for me red card due to SFP in that situation would be acceptable call.

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  43. To sum up first matchday (matches I have seen): Very good performances by Schärer and Jovanovic, both made two important calls against home teams - Barcelona (penalty+RC) and Real Madrid (disallowed 3rd goal for Real). They will certanly get second matches in Champions league. Unfortunately, Treimanis will probably be appointed in EL for the rest of the season due to this penalty incident, let's just hope for him he won't be droped from appointments for MD3 and MD4, this would be a bad sign for him. Kamphuis probaly wont get any VAR appointments this season.
    Now on elite referees: Brych and Kuipers as expected, that penalty Kuipers missed should be seen in live but Kuipers showed with his handa that he was covered and he did not see the situation. That is not an excuse, but luckily there is VAR who helped there. I agree with Makkelie on that match to allow that second Monchengladbach's goal, from the available replays it was not able to prove if offside existed therefore Makkelie did right to confirm that goal.
    Oliver was solid IMO, only that YC for Muller is a wrong call. Other YCs were correct considering his card management from the begining - I realy appreciate when referee is consistent in his card management and Oliver was very good in that segment. IMO Rosetti will be satisfied and I expect Oliver appointed for another top clash in the following matchdays.

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    1. I agree with your comments on Oliver. That yellow card for Muller was a mistake. But if you watch the incident again Oliver doesn't even see a foul but then I believe his 4th official intervenes (Andrew Madley who is reasonably new to the Premier League and only FIFA listed as of this year) and tells him to give the yellow.

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    2. Yes, you are right, at first Oliver did not even whistle a foul and he turned around from that situation. Probably intervention or fourth official, no other explanation IMO.

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