Thursday, 15 April 2021

Europa League 2020/21 - Quarterfinals - Referee Appointments (II)

UEFA Referees Committee has chosen the following officials to handle 2020-21 Europa League's Quarterfinals second legs.


15 April 2021

21:00 CET - Manchester (Old Trafford)
Manchester United FC (ENG) - Granada CF (ESP) 
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pawel Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Iveta Stoyanova (BUL)

21:00 CET - Prague (Eden Arena)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE) - Arsenal FC (ENG) 
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Arda Kardeşler (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Laurent Duhamel (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)

21:00 CET - Villarreal (Estadio de la Cerámica)
Villarreal CF (ESP) - GNK Dinamo (CRO) 
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED) 
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Kevin Blom (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Lars Richt (SWE)

21:00 CET - Roma (Stadio Olimpico)
AS Roma (ITA) - AFC Ajax (NED) 
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG) 
Fourth Official: David Coote (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Boris Stankov (BUL)

199 comments:

  1. So no Mario Diks in team Makkelie

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  2. It seems as the change in Makkelie's team, after the reports from Eredivisie on last days, is official...

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  3. Expected and deserved appointment for Kovacs and Taylor. In my opinion it doesn't make sense to spend Makkelie and Cakir for such matches for the usual two reasons: If they will got a wrong evening with some mistakes, Rosetti will not have anymore officials for CL SF and this will forbid the development of some other referees like as Greefeld, Oliver, Stieler, Zwayer.
    When (soon) Cakir, Kuipers, Orsato, mateu and Brych will leave for age limit, Uefa will face a crisis generation

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  4. What do you think? Was UEFA not happy with Cakir's performance in Dortmund? Or a normal expected appointment in UEL?

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    1. We will only know, when it's clear, whether it is his last match this season or not.
      But for me, his performance was good enough for another appointment in the SFs.

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  5. Diks is absent in makkelie's team but could be just a replacement temporally: Spasjonnikovs (LVA) was replaced for a while in Treimanis' team and then got back after a month. I think Diks will attend EURO.
    Oliver without a match: that means that is UEFA season is over.
    No match since round of 32 for Zwayer: if his chances to attend euro were low, now I think a bit impossible, like for Kulbakov, Kruzliak and Sidiropoulos.
    appointments all expected apart of Kovacs: his season has been incredible and he will be at EURO, IMO.

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  6. I don't know exactly the guidelines but it is not surprising that Taylor whistles a match where the winner is playing for 99% sure against an English team?

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    1. Yes, but as there was no other possibility to appoint an English referee this week, it still is a sensible choice IMO.
      Of course, one could have given him the first leg instead though...

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    2. Secondo te Taylor potrebbe influenzare il risultato in previsione della semifinale? È un sospetto molto grave.

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  7. Is Marciniak still unavailable ?
    I'm bored to always see Makkelie and Cakir....

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    1. Clearly Rosetti don’t appoint referees to amuse you, but to have the best referees on the pitch :)

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    2. Yes, I know for sure... :-) :-) But I don't think that the only good referees in Europe are Orsato, Makkelie, Kuipers, Cakir and Brych. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to keep 27 names in teh elite group and then appoint always the same 4 or 5. Makkelie, Kuipers and Cakir are for sure excellent but even a football team can't have 11 Ronaldo or 11 Messi.
      Nevermind it's just my comment.... life is more tough

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  8. So no Marciniak. I was hoping to see him this week. Same counts for Oliver. I think he deserved to get an appointment in this round. Maybe they can get the first legs of UEL semi.

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    1. Yes, quite surprising after his comeback in WC qualifiers. Also his EURO selection now becomes doubtful, if he hasn't any games to "qualify".

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  9. Everything indicates that Rosetti completely distrusts Marciniak,pity Szymon

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  10. For sure we can say that Marciniak not appointed is a surprise, he could have got one of these games, especially the one in Manchester, if you ask me. Still an open door for second legs, but it seems as committee is not fully convinced after his return. We will see maybe on next week...

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    1. Chefren; these are second legs! Maybe he could obtain a 1st leg in semifinal

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    2. Sorry my mistake :D We are talking about second legs, indeed.
      So Marciniak shouldn't appear anymore. Impossible to see him directly in a semifinal.

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    3. Agree.. The same is for Skomina: if he doesn't appear in a semifinal...

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    4. Well, Rosetti himself got a direct CL semifinal in 2010 after an injury - so nothing impossible...

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  11. For me more than interesting to see that a hungarian observer Sándor Piller will observering István Kovács, who is half hungarian, he his a typical hungarian name, he comes from Transylvania. I am sure they will discuss in Hungarian

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  12. I remind Andrea Stefani making lots of serious mistakes in the season before World Cup 2014. Only of them was as consequential as Diks’ Serbia mistake was. Did N. Rizzoli take him out? Did FIFA take him out? No, they trusted him. Who flagged Higuain’s offside goal with utmost confidence? Andrea Stefani. Good leadership means trusting, not killing someone’s tournament participation due to a few forgivable errors.

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    1. Completely agree! Team Makkelie came at the level they are now also included Mario Diks, it should be a real shame iff Makklie kicks him out, after just 1 big mistake, i have good hope this just not happened and maybe Diks himself requested maybe to slow down a bit for a while,to get out off the big picture and to come back with full energy at Euro

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  13. Very challenging match for Taylor

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  14. Oliver is much better referee that Taylos.
    Taylor is one whim of Rosetti.

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    1. Oliver is very lucky to still be in Elite Group......

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    2. Don't know about much better but I also like Oliver's style more. And Taylor made several big mistakes in high-profile matches like FA Cup final. Oliver for me is a more stable ref.

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  15. No Marciniak, interested Why

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  16. Cakir and Taylor for the most difficult fixtures, well its logical.

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  17. NEWS Diks no longer part of team Makkelie. Makkelie don't trust him anymore. Diks is very dissapointed and hoped on more loyality

    https://www.omropfryslan.nl/nieuws/1049877-incident-met-cristiano-ronaldo-kost-grensrechter-mario-diks-ek-voetbal

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    1. Really disappointed. If the coice was made by Makkelie... no words.. He also has made mistakes in his career (see Internazionale v Sevilla) That's unfair

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    2. Agree, very disappointed. It is not the first time a change has made this season; Kamphuis (VAR) and Blom (AVAR) also switched positions after a mistake of Kamphuis. Not much loyalty from Makkelie..

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    3. the news stated: On wednesday 31-3 Mario Diks was informed by Danny Makkelie that he is no longer in his team because Makkelie lost all trust in him! Sorry for my words..... but WTF! How can Makkelie be so rude and disrespectfull, one off your teammembers for years, wich is so trustworthy and wich you refereed the Europa League final with last year, you replace???? SHAME ON YOU mr Makkelie!!!

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    4. btw iff i was in Rosetti's position now iff i was refereeboss i would never accept such a late change in a team wich works for years together, and Makkelie would lost his place for the Euro21,
      Hessel Steegstra should never trust Makkelie from now on!

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    5. I agree with the others.
      Mistakes are part of refereeing. No human is flawless. It's impossible.
      Makkelie worked together with Diks so long.
      After ONE (I admit, it was a huge one) error, it would have been appropriate to analyse the course of events and draw conclusions from it about how to improve it in the future.
      This incident reflects Makkelie's lack of loyalty, trust and courage.
      Dik's disappointment is completely understandable.

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    6. Remarkable that so many people use such strong words as if they exactly know what’s going on. Probably none of us exactly know what happened in the team during the last 1-2 years. If I’m not mistaken a change between Diks and Steegstra took place earlier this season? Could there be more to it than only the SRB-POR mistake?

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    7. No, change was in Var/AVAR Kamphuis/Blom, and now it is Blom/Kamphuis

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    8. I was not talking about VAR/AVAR, but about AR1/AR2.

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    9. Anonymous is right, Diks appeared as AR2 since autumn while he was AR1 years before. Anonymous is also right in saying noone of us knows what was going on. It's a team matter, let's leave it like that. One note, I want to give: If he had kept him on AR1, he wouldn't have missed the Ronaldo goal ;-)

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    10. The appointment of Assistant referees should not be down to the referee. In as much as a team is always projected and trained together in such a way that when a referee is appointed we already know who is assistants are is a good thing but the appointment of the Assistants should still be independent and not based on the referees decision. He wasn’t the one that made him an assistant referee or even selected him to be part of the team in the first place. So if there are errors and mistakes made by the assistants, The FA or UEFA or FIFA as the case may be decided to remove or stick to the Assistants referee. I feel the case with Diks might be a long out problem that have been going on since but irrespective it should not be the referees decision to make.

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    11. They call themself 'Team-Makkelie', as soon as a member of this team has to make a difficult decision (from the corner flag), and is wrong, then the team lead (Makkelie) should take responsibility. How can you give someone who fails to do this the responsibility for big games in big competitions, highly doubtfull.

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  18. Update about Maresca - Ibrahimovic as it was asked by some pople here: only one matchday of ban and a fine for the Swedish.
    Reason reported by Maresca: "For having criticized referee with a provocative attitude."
    In a nutshell, not a real insult but the approach by Swedish in reporting some words to referee while talking (otherwise 2 matchdays would have been the minimum).
    I therefore think that he could have managed it better, with more dialogue. This was an excessive RC according to what I can understand from the final decision.

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    1. More accurate translation: "disrespectful criticism to referee with provocative attutide".

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    2. According to the LOTG, that is dissent, so yellow card, no red card. The 1-match suspension is a compromise.

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  19. Very, very disappointing how Makkelie unilaterally decides to end such a long-term relationship, on a professional level, but probably also on a personal level, with Diks. Seems very harsh to me and suggests something like a cancel culture. A real shame.

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    1. Makkelie takes the assistant out because he is the leader.

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    2. Leading means jointly analyzing, trusting, encouraging, demanding performance, motivating, critically checking each other from time to time, setting expectations. Not taking someone off three months before a tournament. That's not leading, that's the outcome of previous failure of leadership.

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    3. Full agree with you anonymous@13:58. This is the role and the attitude of a real leader in all jobs

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  20. You can look on Makkelie's choice from different perspectives.

    He devotes his loyalty to the performance principle and has in mind the maximum achievement of his team at European Championships. That's positive. However, it's short-sighted. UEFA values strong and experienced trios very highly. Is Makkelie's position stronger or weaker now with a new assistant? Do Steegstra and de Vries perform with clear minds and without any fear of demotion now?

    Refereeing is a peoples business. Taking off your colleague, teammate, maybe even friend and destroying his life dream is brutal. Mario Diks, if you read this. We saw your great performances. I hope you overcome the disappointment. You deserved to be at the tournament.

    The true character of a man shows in how you deal with conflict and failure.

    Then again noone of us knows the team dynamics, so who are we to judge. Still, it's brutal.

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    1. To be honest, iff i was in steegstra's shoes right now, i would be very angry at Makkelie, oke Makkelie is the leader, but to kick out your 3th man in such a shitty way........while you reached such high archievemenst with him, it's a real real shame!
      Once again i i where in Steegstra's position right now... i will tell Makkelie, either we go all together to Euro, that means with Diks, or i go out as well, then none off us go!

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    2. @Eric,
      This is wishful thinking.
      Referees are 'loners'. Refereeing at top level is 'everyone for him(her)self. 'A cat makes strange jumps' when it feels threatened.
      You mention that Steegstra should leave the team as well, but why doesn't de Vries refuse his designation?... because de vries is thinking now, THIS is my chance

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    3. Jaak, i agree it is a bitt wishfull, but iff Jan de Vries is indeed a real man, and support his collegues he would refuse this designation, Actually in my thoughts...to support Mario Diks, i hope (nothing against De Vries) that he will fail completely thursday, so Makkelie knows what he is missing

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  21. I am sad for assistant. No Danny, you didn't have to do that

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  22. If really, the change of assistant has occurred only because of the error of Serbia-Portugal, and the decision has been made by Makkelie unilaterally, then it seems to me a horrible attitude. If I were in the assistant's place, I would feel betrayed. I see it very unfair

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  23. Let us remember that this replacement came only one week after Vassaras replaced Sovre in Hategan's team. Maybe these changes were suggested/encouraged by UEFA?
    On the other hand, several years ago, Kassai was stubborn to keep AR Eros in his trio despite his many mistakes and their team suffered in terms of performance. It is a complex issue.

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    1. Kassai kept Eros on his team for an entirely different reason.

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    2. Support on a medical problem.

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    3. Edward, regardless of the reason (which I do not know), Kassai lost his top appointments by doing that. He kept his friend in his team, but said goodbye to big matches. Makkelie and Hategan (along with UEFA) want performance first, so they did what was in the best interest of their teams, not only their friendships. In his recent message to all referees, Rosetti stressed the importance of the referee being a leader and be able to make decisions for the best interest of their entire team and UEFA.

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    4. True, Anonymous. But Kassai proved to be a loyal friend and colleague. Which in my book is more important than any appointment.

      And let's not forget that Kassai was left out of the 2014 not for performance reasons but for political ones.

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    5. What political reason? The Euro 2012 "goal" was enough reason to miss WC 2014.

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    6. Apparently it wasn't enough reason. Kassai was left out and UEFA was left with 9+1 because PLC and Busacca couldn't agree on the 10th name (10+1).

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    7. Edward, do you happen to know which other UEFA referee the disagreement was about? And does this also explain why CONMEBOL was left with 5+1, instead of the regular 6+1?

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    8. The other UEFA referee was Skomina. PLC wanted him in Brazil despite his AR's mistakes. Busacca wanted Kassai. Busacca even offered to put Skomina as reserve (FO) but PLC said no. So they couldn't agree and both referees were left home with the known catastrophic results.

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  24. Although I do understand the feelings that people express here regarding Diks, I think we must also recognize that we do know (and probably will also never know) the full story, as also explained by anonymous at 14:12. Many people here react in a way assuming that the only thing that has happened is Diks' mistake and after that Makkelie immediately removed him from his team in favour of De Vries. And this, to me, is a dangerous assumption. My gut feeling tells me that this cannot be the only thing that has happened (but of course that is also an assumption from my side!). So yes, I fully understand that people react here in the way they do, and I also understand that Mario reacts to this decision with "lack of loyalty" etc. but I think that we should be a bit more cautious in our reactions until we also know e.g. Makkelie's view (again, if that ever happens...).

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    1. Lets not forget that earlier in the season Steegstra and Diks swapped sides (with Diks going to ASR2 after having been ASR1 for almost the entire time the trio worked together).
      This might mean that there was already some history and this is the final straw.

      Although it might also be that UEFA has said to Makkelie: Diks is not going to Euro 21 and if he stays in the trio the whole trio is not going.

      It seems less black and white as you firstly would think.

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    2. I agree with you both that there could be more to it than just the mistake in SRB-POR, but even then, it does not feel right. Makkelie has followed Kuipers' example by continuously talking about "Team Makkelie" in the last years, appearing with his assistants in talkshows etc. In that case, all members of the team share responsibility for the decisions they make together. Removing Diks then feels wrong, even when issues might have been present for a few months now. You should be a team together, for better or worse.

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    3. Funny, and relevant if comparing, that Kuipers is brought into discussion. Did anybody notice that Team Kuipers before summer 2011 (AR Van Roekel and Siemons) was not of same composition as Team Kuipers after 2011, towards Euro2012 (AR Van Roekel and Zeinstra)?
      ;)

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    4. AR1, no that's nothing to compare! I'v been at a seminar with Bjorn Kuipers, in there he told that Berry Simons himself requested to leave the team, not because he didn't like to work with Kuipers, but he feeled to much pressure in high profile international matches, and family life, It was Simons hiw own choice.

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    5. Of course, of course! Do you still believe in fairytales as well?

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  25. I have to be honest: I'd forgotten that;) With the important difference though that Kuipers, at the time, was nowhere near being the established name that Makkelie now is. He was only in charge of 8 CL matches and a dozen other international matches (WC-qualifiers etc.) before 2011 if I'm not mistaken.

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    1. That’s not completely true, spring 2011 Kuipers did semifinal EL and late summer 2011 when Kuipers did European Supercup as main ref. But yes, a little less established I agree

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  26. Sidiropoulos can't go to Euro as the first referee the only one who can pick up the sign

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  27. Well that's it then. No Oliver. A disappointing European season for Michael Oliver with only 3 Champions League appearances in the group stage and 1 Europa League match in the round of 16.
    He deserved much better in my opinion.

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  28. So the referee team in Manchester has 4(!) different nationalities. Why you need Gil as AVAR with a German VAR?

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  29. I knew Cakir would be appointed to this match as soon as I saw he is not in the QF of CL.

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  30. On 4 appointments in EL KO stage as VAR, Bastian Dankert got twice Manchester United and Milan AC.

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  31. Other thoughts CONCACAF:
    Have been watching some CONCACAF Champions league and if you are curious about some of the officiating in UEFA, then check out some of these videos:

    Club America vs Olimpia Tackle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTp9rcSLMLs&ab_channel=TUDNUSA

    Saprissa VS Philadelphia Tackle and Brawl (skip to 1:55): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNSCquGM2fQ&ab_channel=FOXSoccer

    Philadelphia vs Saprissa Leg 2 (0:10): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK7CcG9Utas&ab_channel=FOXSoccer

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    1. And here is another one, "offside"
      Cruz Azul vs Arachaie (1:51): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuFPLVgrv18&ab_channel=OneSoccer

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  32. Offtop

    UEFA banned Sergey Lapochkin for 90 days (starting from March 25, 2021) from all football-related activities for possible violation of disciplinary regulations. The episode is back to 2018, when Ventspils lost to Bordeaux (0-1) the first leg of the 2nd QR EL. It was communicated by information agency RIA-News that Lapochkin was approached by unknown people who asked to fix the result of this match. Lapochkin declined but did not inform UEFA about the incident. The latter is regarded as violation of regulations.

    The links (in Russian):
    https://rsport.ria.ru/20210415/lapochkin-1728446299.html
    https://rsport.ria.ru/20210415/lapochkin-1728443162.html

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  33. Do you remember when someone on this blog said that Sovre is banned by Romanian Commitee? Well, that was incorrect information because tomorrow Hategan will handle AFC Astra - Dinamo Bucharest with his regular ARs, Sovre and Gheorghe.

    What do we expect now? I think he will attend EURO without a doubt with Sovre.

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    1. The info had been reported by a Romanian journalist on twitter:
      https://twitter.com/Emishor/status/1380451841574629377

      "The Romanian Refs' Committee decided to STOP assistant ref Sovre from refereeing for the time being. He will not be part of Hategan's officiating team on the last round of the regular season in the Romanian first tier."

      About EURO, after what happened in Manchester, in my opinion it is quite sure that Sovre wont attend it.

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    2. Well, that info was wrong. This link is the official website for Romanian Committe where everyone can see the appointments.
      https://www.frf-cca.ro/delegari/15/04/2021/22/04/2021/1/89/0

      So, we must wait and see all teams for EURO.

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    3. Maybe the decision was changed after they found out the reason behind the Haaland autograph?

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  34. Correct penalty + YC by Cakir, but he could have delayed his whistle waiting for advantage IMO

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    1. Clearly a missed advantage by Cakir, this shouldn't happen, player was ready to shot and very likely to score.
      In addition, to report VAR intervention for disallowing a goal after a previous offside call, very likely missed by AR2. I think that VAR assessed that player had touched the ball, otherwise referee should have been invited to OFR. To be rewatched.

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    2. This offside decision is factual for me and VOR is the right solution for this situation. The ball coming back from goal post direct to the player which is an offside position.
      About penalty decision, better to whistle for me as soon as possible

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    3. Regarding the offside, maybe I didn't watch the action in full, I thought it had been reported for a player who had tried to remove himself from the trajectory of the ball,if after that there was a direct control, correct to call offside without OFR.

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  35. Busy 20 mins for Çakır in Prague. Goal cancelled by VAR for an offside, first goal checked for offside, correct penalty whistled. All happened between 14-20 mins.

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  36. Very clear penalty decision by Cakir

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  37. VAR intervention in Villarreal: wrong offside by AR2, left leg of defender kept attacker ONSIDE. Definitely not easy to see...

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  38. A penalty appeal by Ajax in Rome: off the ball incident, definitely not enough to whistle, I agree with Taylor, correct NO VAR intervention.

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  39. Good first half for Çakir in Slavia-Arsenal.

    17' correct disallowed goal after VAR interventional (factual decision)
    Hard to see for Tarik Ongun!

    20' correct penalty to Arsenal + YC
    Maybe he could have waited but for me not 'that' clear chance to score.
    For me only advantage in 1000% oppprtunity to score like goalkeeper committed foul etc.

    Foul detection was good, no bigger problems at all.

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    1. Letting the player shot is very easy, not a proper advantage but a delayed whistle, it is expected by UEFA in such situations!

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    2. I agree with Ref545 here, not a very clear goal opportunity for me either. It is understandable to whistle as soon as possible to call the penalty. Good decision by Cakir

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  40. Kevin Blom who is Var in Villareal was caught by camera on the pitch in the haftime. Relaxing outside the VAR room :)

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    1. I saw the scene and to be honest they were close to police, I don't know whether something particular happened because I never saw VAR on the pitch during half time.

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    2. In Croatian media (and probably Dinamo's players) think that Blom checked offside in the wrong moment, they claim offside should be checked a second later and they claim that than it was an offside. Since players were watching something on the phone and Blom was there, maybe he explained them why he decided for no offside in that situation.

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    3. IMO very very difficult situation even for VAR, but I think correct decision by Blom at the end. When I saw the first replay my initial thought was that offside call by AR will be overruled.

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  41. Correct VAR intervention for offside in Prague-Arsenal.

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  42. Taylor was on 2 meter and had perfect view on the incident

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  43. 0-2 disallowed in Rome after OFR. Foul occurred by Tagliafico while Taylor was in front of the situation.

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    1. Yes, another point against an intervention. Maybe Taylor communicated that the he did not see any contact at all and Atwell wanted to show him that there was (even if it was a slight one)?

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  44. What do you think about the VAR intervention in Rome? For me no foul and therefore goal was not wrong. Rome player falls before any contact
    is made. In the end I think foul is okay but was
    it really VAR stuff...?

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  45. Big mistake from Taylor. That would have to cost him the European Championship. He's been weak in the last couple of games.

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    1. I believe that a decision will not jeopardise the euro. It was also a decision for the Italian team. In England, he would never have considered this scene a foul.

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    2. Not sure about that 'anonymous'. On BT for expample, the commentators agree that it was a foul.

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    3. Taylor is one caprice of Rosetti.

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  46. Arsenal minute 63. Manager clearly outside the technical area and yells and shows gestures to Cakir for a red/yellow card. As usual it's ignored and he doesn't get sent off. What's the point of this when the pro referees always ignore it?

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    1. Same situation happaned yestarday in Liverpool from Kuipers in front of the Liverpool bench.
      Both top referees ( cakir and kuipers) did excellent jobs while managing those situations.

      They took two yellow cards on pitch, rigid body languages and gives strong massages to all player.

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    2. Huh? How is it excellent when you clearly ignore what the laws of the game says? When a manager leaves the technical area and shows dissent towards an official the manager must be sent off. I hope you were joking.

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    3. I dont want to answer your thoughts because you are crossing the limits. Please choose your words while you are writing. By the way “ I am not joking” .

      If you handle those kinds of top games in your career, you understand why they do that.

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    4. When someone thinks it's ecellent to ignore clear laws then I can't respect that opinion because it's imply 100% wrong and shows lack of knowledge.

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  47. About situation in Rome, min 56, VAR intervention is acceptable for me because clear action from the attacker to his opponent. After that action , the ball goes directly to the post. Good job from British team.

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    1. Adler, i'm a Ajax Fan, and referee myself, i absolutely can understand the Var intervention, and cancelling the goal, it's a soft but important foul, and i think Taylors View is in the back off the two players, that's why he missed it

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    2. If intervening for the semi-foul Tagliafico made before Ajax’s 2nd goal, then Mr Atwell should have come forward in the 1st half as well, when Tadic was slightly pulled at the shoulder in Roma’s penalty area.

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  48. Quite a dark YC missed by Taylor now, very clear mistake. Taylor with a VAR intervention, some (not one!) fouls missed and a clear YC (at least) missed. So, according to all of you, should Taylor have replaced Orsato on PSG-BAY?

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    2. What a disrespectful, harmful comment. If you aren't able to contribute to refereeing discussions, then this might be not the best place to comment your inflammatory stuff.

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  49. Taylor doesn't quite convince me. In addition to the goal disallowed, he has been lazy in the application of the advantage law. Not bad at all, but not enough to direct the Champions League final.

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  50. Bad Taylor tonight. Bad foul and card management, bad advantage calls. Luckily for UEFA, there’s VAR

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  51. To be honest, I waited before writing, but I'm not still 100% convinced by this VAR intervention in Rome. Taylor was there, was that a clear and obvious mistake? Very important, crucial for qualification.
    In any case, this makes not a good performance for Taylor.

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    2. Chefren, wich i think... Taylor missed the complete incident, because he was behind the players, maybe Var asked Taylor to confirm if he has seen the foul, and Taylor responded negative, and Var then send him to the screen to see it himself, to judge about it

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    3. He was also shouting GO ON, GO On so he assessed the situation. Imo not a clear mistake. And as Chefren says it was crucial to qualifying.

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  52. Convincing performance by Çakir!

    Convinced all players and all major decisions correct.No bigger problems at all.No one talks about referee this night in Prague.

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  53. My predictions:
    RMA-CHE: Orsato and Çakir
    CIT-PSG: Brych and Makkelie
    VILL-ARS: Vincic and Hategan
    MUN-ROM:Del Cerro and Soares Dias

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    1. IMO Hategan is not deserved to get any game in the rest of the season due to his terrible performance in Dortmund-Man City.

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    2. IMO No more match for Del CERRO

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    3. Del Cerro is one great referee.

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  54. My SF predictions:
    Manchester-Roma: Grinfeld/Kuipers
    Villareal-Arsenal: Karasev/Vincic
    (with Brych, Cakir, Makkelie, Orsato in CL)

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  55. My predictions for EL semi-final and final

    Arsenal-Villarreal: Vincic and Orsato
    Man United-Roma: Dias and Del Cerro
    Final: Turpin

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  56. So finally you are now knowing who is the real Taylor.

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  57. Solid and good performance of Makkelie in a normal match. Nothing to speak about, only one difficult offside call for AR2, not visible for the eye and correct intervention.

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  58. After this is clear, final UEL Turpin, UCL with Spansih team Makkelie. Super up these year: Vincic. But, what are you think about possibility if Psg do not pass through final, to se Frappart as a referee.

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    1. Well, if I thought it'd be good I'd get in an argument with Mikael. ;) (Just joking!)

      But no - that would be ridiculous. She's performed on an acceptable level, certainly earned some matches in UEL or maybe UCL next season, but certainly not that.

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    2. If that happens we can all together switch to some other sport

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    3. However, Frappart as the Fourth Official to Turpin in a UEL final would make lots of sense.

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  59. Very good performance from Cakir. He again showed that he is always candidate for finals. Probably a UCL semifinal next.

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    1. Easy game that was decided in the first half. Not to take it away from him but he didn't need to do anything special in this game.

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  60. Some clips from Çakır's game.

    14' - Goal disallowed for offside [AR2] after VAR intervention
    https://streamable.com/ka1517

    20' - Penalty given to Arsenal (tripping) + YC; advantage?
    https://streamable.com/o7avux

    34' - Potential penalty to Arsenal (tripping)
    https://streamable.com/rligwb

    58' - Potential penalty to Arsenal (tripping)
    https://streamable.com/eb87di

    63' - Potential Violent Conduct by Slavia no.9, YC given
    https://streamable.com/xxyygt

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    1. All interesting clips. I would have given two more penalties for arsenal, what do you think Mikael?
      34' If the defender gets the ball, no PK. But he is so near to the ball, that VAR should not intervene.
      58' looks like he goes down easily, but for me, after a skillful turn of direction, if the defender doesn't get any of the ball and there is a soft trip, normally it's given. Probably good noVAR.

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    2. In my opinion for these clips:

      34' - nobody expects a penalty decision. This is a QF game so it will be funny if penalty was given while nobody expecting.

      58'- the referee is very close to the situation and attacking player starts to fall down then there is a very slight tackle from the defender. Is this a penalty for you really?

      63'- Is there enough speed, brutality and excessive force for SFP? I don't think so. This is not more than a reckless tackle.

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    3. My views:

      34' - actually, 'by the book' this can only be a penalty IMO, (if) the defender doesn't play the ball and blocks the attacker from shooting; however, playing on as Çakır did was clearly the more sensible choice

      58' - I'm only seeing a 40-60 penalty here, the contact existed but my feeling is that the attacker could have carried on if he so wished, I would play on too (this situation is different to the end of PORJUV IMO)

      63' - the replay isn't 100% clear but what I would class as a VC seems to happen here; however, especially given that I doubt that reaches the UEFA/FIFA threshold of 'brutality', in addition to the game context, Çakır again took the sensible decision in practice

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    4. I agree with you Mikael! At 34' it's very hard to sell, if the 'attacker' doesn't go down.
      58' reminds me of Rose vs. Coman (68' Tottenham vs. Bayern, 1.10.19). Turpin also didn't give a foul and no VAR intervention, but there was a clear trip after a skillful change of direction.

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    5. IMO, by the book, in all three scenes penalty/RC were possible.
      However, Cakir took die safest and most sensible choices, I think.

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  61. https://streamable.com/xvzg2j

    Intervention in Taylor's game. I agree with Adler and Eric - it's a foul. Roma player plays the ball through the legs of his opponent who deliberately moves to trip him, and succeeds.

    Only then can the perpetrator's teammate get the goal, and Ajax go on to score in the same APP. I don't think we should overcomplicate scenes like that - it's a (clear) foul before a goal, VAR should intervene, simple.

    -> Correct intervention, correct outcome (goal disallowed)

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    In a non-VAR game, this would be a really important mistake by Taylor, so how does he miss such a (clear) tripping / impeding foul?

    Despite having a clear view, the English ref is looking at the challenge from the back, not the front - I would call this a zero insight angle. If you remember the controversial Soares Dias intervention in Real Madrid - Paris, then that is another example.

    When you can't see the effects of the push, or in this case the tripping / impeding, your default reaction is to play on (at least mine is in my games).

    Furthermore, Taylor is too close to properly assess the duel. He correctly follows play when it looks like Ajax will start an attack, but when possession changes to the defenders, the Englishman should start back-peddling more.

    Hope that explains it :)

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    1. When using the “let’s not overcomplicate things”- phrase I cpuld use an explanation on why VAR did not intervene when Tadic was grabbed around the shoulder in the first half. There was a clear and deliberate movement of the defender’s arm around Tadic’s shoulder. With regard to fairness and “not overcomplicating” I see non consistency.

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    2. Penalty appeal at 37', IIRC.

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    3. @Anonymous, don’t forget to mention that ball was far away, the light hold had no effect on the play and Tadic falls in the opposite direction of the holding and exaggerates the fall. This is why VAR can’t intervene

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    4. https://streamable.com/vztlfr

      Thanks, Flip. For all the reasons mentioned by Anonymous 11:34, play on is clearly the more optimal call IMO, even if a penalty wouldn't be totally wrong as some kind of holding did exist.

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  62. https://streamable.com/xn6nfi

    From Makkelie's game - goal given (-> no offside [AR2]) after VAR intervention at 36'.

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    1. In Croatian media this decision is being assesed as very debatable, even likely wrong.

      The reason for this is because the director of the broadcast froze the image at different moment and offside lines are drawn the moment before. From this angle it is not possible to see 100% if Parejo touched the ball already.

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    2. It could be a "mistake" by director also, but indeed if you compare footage it is not completely the same.

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  63. I dont understand Why I see prediction, Every person write Final EL for Turpin, I understand he is one of the best referee, and I think the same but Please see This situation, when is crucial and important matches, Turpin is not main, he gets only game Which is No big and he hasnt Super Cup, IMO he wont be main

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  64. Istvan Kovacs He's a weak referee like tea. Yesterday the foul on Greenwood will not beep foul on Amad Diallo will not beep.

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  65. If Real goes to CL Final, maybe Mateu for EL Final, if Villarreal are not in the Final ?

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  66. OT

    A new blog covering the refereeing at World Cup 1998 is open. Games will begin on Friday (next week), until then there is some daily preview pieces. Hope users enjoy!

    wc98refs.blogspot.com

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    1. something like this is always is always welcome Mikael, have fun yourself to! Thanks already in forward!

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    2. Thank you, I am very happy

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  67. Very soft penalty given to Everton against Tottenham given by Oliver.

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    1. Clear penalty. Very well Oliver as always.

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  68. Gentlemen.....
    I'm still struggling who should be the ultimate candidate for the UCL final, Makkelie would be a good choice, because his performances where good!, Mateu would be also a good choice, maybe Turpin and Taylor also, but i also still have a feeling Rosetti is as whe al know a huge fan of Bjorn Kuipers, and his Euro/WC final dreams never came true, Kuipers is on international level already for 16 Years!!!!
    Makkelie they should save for in a few years, he is only 37. Might be a crazy guess, but history shows in 2012 (Proenca/2016 Clattenburg) both Champions League, and Euro final to 1 referee, iff Uefa again does the same tric, and maybe to give Kuipers an ultimate goodbye.........i also know Kuipers did the CL final in 2014, but suddenly i was thinking about this!

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    1. I am a big fan of Kuipers, but I have to admit Makkelie is a very good referee, despite of his poor human management skills. For me, the best way to award Kuipers is give him an EURO final rather than a second CL final. I do not think UEFA should break the "each referee can only in CL final once" rule and I think Makkelie completely deserve CL final based on his overall performance.

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    2. I am a big fan of Kuipers, but I have to admit Makkelie is a very good referee, despite of his poor human management skills. For me, the best way to award Kuipers is give him an EURO final rather than a second CL final. I do not think UEFA should break the "each referee can only in CL final once" rule and I think Makkelie completely deserve CL final based on his overall performance.

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    3. We wouldnt have had the whole problem if Orsato wasnt pushed and Mateu already got what he should have had (UCL final) last season when the chance was there. In that case Orsato for me would have been an almost sure choice for now. But they didnt and now Rosetti pays for it...

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    4. Sam, agree, but what iff The Netherlands in Euro suddenly goes to 1/2 final? Then Kuipers has nothing, same like 2014! Again the argument in 2012 and 2016 both CL and Euro Final where going to the same referee!
      Mateu (if Madrid goes to CL final), would be possible option for Europa League, and Rosetti saves Makkelie for maybe next year or 2023/2024, so then with Kuipers he only break the one time CLfinal, but he breaks it for a long time (16 years) serving referee, who had the Cl-final 7 years ago! and Kuipers will have at least the Cl-final

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    5. Sam, agree, but what if Germany in Euro suddenly goes to 1/2 final? Then Brych has nothing, same like 2014! Again the argument in 2012 and 2016 both CL and Euro Final where going to the same referee!
      Mateu (if Madrid goes to CL final), would be possible option for Europa League, and Rosetti saves Makkelie for maybe next year or 2023/2024, so then with Brych he only break the one time CLfinal, but he breaks it for a long time (17 years) serving referee, who had the Cl-final 4 years ago! and Brych will have at least the Cl-final

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    6. Taylor is one disaster as referee.

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    7. My wish for this years finals
      EL:Turpin
      CL: Mateu Lahoz
      EC: Kuipers. As A farewell game for one of the best refereeing teams (his ARs are world class too) in the last 15 years, who clearly would have had the WC14 final IMO if not for NL reaching the SF.

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    8. Eric, I see your point, although I think Netherland will not get into last 4 in EURO. IMO Kuipers is the best referee after Collina, but I do not see a reason to give him the 2nd CL final to admit all of his accomplishment. If Kuipers does not get EURO final and semi-final because Netherland is in the last 4, I am totally fine with this just because Kuipers' career has been so successful. CL final + 2 EL final + confederations cup final + 3 EURO + 2 World Cup + Numerous outstanding performance. I will miss him a lot after his retirement.

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    9. Sam, i agree with you, Kuipers has an amazing career, and should bee so proud at it, but once he stated in an interview after the CL final, i have one more dream, eather World Cup Final, or Euro Final, i hope for him he getts the chance to make his dream come true, because he deserved it so so much!

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    10. Agree, Eric, let's see if he can make the EURO final.

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  69. Germany:
    Sören Storks (no-FIFA) is appointed for today's important Bundesliga derby Bayer Leverkusen - FC Köln.

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  70. Anonymous,but what if Germany in Euro suddenly goes to 1/2 final? Then Brych has nothing, same like 2014! Anonymous 13:59 this is a very stupid argument! Mr.Brych did not even reach 1/8 finals in 2014, so he definetly should nod had the final that WC! Kuipers everybody knows had a big chance, even his collegue referees where saying that, only he was unlucky Netherlands proceeded to semi finals! And lets say honest.. did Brych show good performences at WC, the answer i think, 2014 No, and 2018 NO, he never not even reached Knock out phase in World Cups!

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  71. Can anybody remind me, what was the mark of Anthony Taylor in Fa cup final last year? Thanks in advance.

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  72. HT in Copa del Rey final. No crucial mistakes but not convinced by Martínez Munuera so far. Very lenient disciplinary line, improvable foul detection and doesn't seem to be in full control of the match and the players.

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    1. Do you think earlier performances of Martinez Munuera are still in mind by Barcelona players (the Classico PK early this season)?. Players undermine the refs authority.

      When I read Spanish social media and/or news papers. There is always a lot of controversies about referee appointments.

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    2. There were some problems in foul detection but IMO that was a satisfying/good performance. As Quilava said, lenient line in a fair game. You don‘t need to throw your cards if its not necessary.
      Would be interesting to see if that final would have been more challenging.

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    3. Yes, good performance in an easy match.

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  73. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTp9rcSLMLs
    :(

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    1. Video not available, but I see that offender got a YC. Was it the result of an SFP-worthy challenge or just 'unfortunate'? (see Ekberg in SRB-AUT of 2019 Euro u21)

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    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMSSlaJ1A4

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    3. https://twitter.com/i/status/1382557725201170432

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    4. Clear RC, unintentional but terrible miscalculated tackle.

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  74. Who was the best in Spain luis Medina or mejuto Gonzalez ?

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  75. When UEFA EURO 2020 referees list will be presented? any insides?

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  76. "Next week may be a key date to know the list of referees chosen to attend the Eurocup next. A list initially composed of 18 referees, and where VAR representatives are not included, which can be made official on the occasion of the 45 Ordinary Congress of the UEFA dated for the 20th of this month of April ". This is what I have read in a Spanish newspaper. The journalist who writes it, Ramón Fuentes, usually gives quite reliable information.

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  77. Stuart Attwell on Var Arsenal v Fulham. Awful to say the least... I think Taylor needs a new Var

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  78. Next week EURO referees to be announced.

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  79. Let's continue on the WC 2018 VAR post :)

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