Matchday 2 of 2022 UEFA Women's EURO group stage, referee appointments.
Group A, 11.07.2022, 18:00 CET
St. Mary's Stadium, Southampton
AUSTRIA - NORTHERN IRELAND
Referee: Emikar Virginia Calderas Barrera (VEN)
Assistant Referee 1: Migdalia Rodriguez Chirino (VEN)
Assistant Referee 2: Mary Blanco Bolivar (COL)
Fourth Official: Marta Huerta de Aza (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: José María Sánchez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jenny Palmqvist (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Ana Raspopović (MNE)
Group A, 11.07.2022, 21:00 CET
Brighton & Hove Community Stadium, Brighton & Hove
ENGLAND - NORWAY
Referee: Riem Hussein (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Katrin Rafalski (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Susann Küng (SUI)
Fourth Official: Esther Staubli (SUI)
Brighton & Hove Community Stadium, Brighton & Hove
ENGLAND - NORWAY
Referee: Riem Hussein (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Katrin Rafalski (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Susann Küng (SUI)
Fourth Official: Esther Staubli (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Caroline De Boeck (BEL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Caroline De Boeck (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Ginta Pēce (LVA)
Group B, 12.07.2022, 18:00 CET
Stadium MK, Milton Keynes
DENMARK - FINLAND
Referee: Iuliana Demetrescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Petruta Iugulescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Anita Vad (HUN)
Fourth Official: Cheryl Foster (WAL)
Stadium MK, Milton Keynes
DENMARK - FINLAND
Referee: Iuliana Demetrescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Petruta Iugulescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Anita Vad (HUN)
Fourth Official: Cheryl Foster (WAL)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Wendy Toms (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Wendy Toms (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Ronit Glasman (ISR)
Group B, 12.07.2022, 21:00 CET
Brentford Community Stadium, London
GERMANY - SPAIN
Brentford Community Stadium, London
GERMANY - SPAIN
Referee: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Elodie Coppola (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Manuela Nicolosi (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ivana Projkovska (MKD)
Assistant Referee 1: Elodie Coppola (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Manuela Nicolosi (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ivana Projkovska (MKD)
Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Maika Vanderstichel (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Caroline De Boeck (BEL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Maika Vanderstichel (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Caroline De Boeck (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Tamar Chichinadze (GEO)
Group C, 13.07.2022, 18:00 CET
Bramall Lane, Sheffield
SWEDEN - SWITZERLAND
Referee: Marta Huerta de Aza (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Francesca Di Monte (ITA)
Fourth Official: Emikar Virginia Calderas Barrera (VEN)
Bramall Lane, Sheffield
SWEDEN - SWITZERLAND
Referee: Marta Huerta de Aza (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Francesca Di Monte (ITA)
Fourth Official: Emikar Virginia Calderas Barrera (VEN)
Video Assistant Referee: José María Sánchez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Blaženka Logarušić (CRO)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Blaženka Logarušić (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Iva Olivari-Ulisa (CRO)
Group C, 13.07.2022, 21:00 CET
Leigh Sports Village, Wigan & Leigh
NETHERLANDS - PORTUGAL
Leigh Sports Village, Wigan & Leigh
NETHERLANDS - PORTUGAL
Referee: Ivana Martinčić (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Sanja Rodjak-Karšić (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Staša Špur (SVN)
Fourth Official: Lorraine Watson (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Sanja Rodjak-Karšić (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Staša Špur (SVN)
Fourth Official: Lorraine Watson (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Katarzyna Wierzbowska (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Katarzyna Wierzbowska (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Laura Montgomery (SCO)
Group D, 14.07.2022, 18:00 CET
Manchester City Academy Stadium, Manchester
ITALY - ICELAND
Referee: Lina Lehtovaara (FIN)
Assistant Referee 1: Karolin Kaivoja (EST)
Assistant Referee 2: Chrysoula Kourompylia (GRE)
Fourth Official: Iuliana Demetrescu (ROU)
Manchester City Academy Stadium, Manchester
ITALY - ICELAND
Referee: Lina Lehtovaara (FIN)
Assistant Referee 1: Karolin Kaivoja (EST)
Assistant Referee 2: Chrysoula Kourompylia (GRE)
Fourth Official: Iuliana Demetrescu (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Blaženka Logarušić (CRO)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Blaženka Logarušić (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Maria Mifsud (MLT)
Group D, 14.07.2022, 21:00 CET
New York Stadium, Rotherham
FRANCE - BELGIUM
New York Stadium, Rotherham
FRANCE - BELGIUM
Referee: Cheryl Foster (WAL)
Assistant Referee 1: Michelle O'Neill (IRL)
Assistant Referee 2: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Lorraine Watson (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Michelle O'Neill (IRL)
Assistant Referee 2: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Lorraine Watson (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Katarzyna Wierzbowska (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Katarzyna Wierzbowska (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Lamprini Dimitrou (GRE)
So, the same strategy as Rapallini with MKD, we have now Calderas with NIR a first test, before something bigger, in case.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting to see how she will handle this game.
About the other game, Küng should be the first assistant referee, if I'm not wrong, to get appointments with two different referees, we can't know whether this was planned before the start of the tournament, or not.
There are 25 assistants for 13 referees, so it could not be avoided to use one AR for two referees.
DeleteThere was no need to have Huerta's team on group A again!
ReplyDeleteWe can easily guess that it was for appointing a referee with the same language of Calderas, so this appointment is a bit extra-ordinary indeed, and different from the others. There weren't other possible choices!
DeleteI understand the language would make sense, group C or D would have been logical if they wanted to put them together.
DeleteEven DEN v FIN would have been possible I think
DeleteOn the other hand, Huerta might be planned for her second game as referee in group C or D on MD 2.
DeleteAlso Sanchez repeats Austria as VAR. This could have been avoided by using Cuadra in that role, but so far it seems, there is a clear order in the VAR duos from the same country.
Perhaps in group D but acting as 4th in MD 2 she could have been appointed to C/D in MD3 as referee. In any case I feel this appointment could easily have been avoided.
DeleteAs fas as i know Interational referees should speak al English very well, so why then a 4th official and VAR team from Spain again for Austria....isn't that the easy choice.... why not appoint other VAR and 4thofficials, iff they speak al English??
DeleteMost of CONMEBOL and CONCACAF international referees don't speak English.
DeleteThat may be true indeed. However, I would expect that the referees sent from CONMEBOL to a European tournament would be able to speak English to some degree.
DeleteIsn't there a requirement for all FIFA referees to have at least some knowledge of English?
DeleteI thought so until some time ago, but it seems this is valid only for UEFA (having to pass an English test, European official language). I don't know how it exactly works with referees from other confederations becoming FIFA, but you can be sure that very big names from that confederations didn't / don't speak English.
DeleteI'm sure that's right, I still would be amazed if Calderas doesn't have some understanding of English if not fluent. Otherwise, she would have to be paired with Huerta for every appointment which limits the appointments.
DeleteWell, that rises another question for me, iff not al fifa referees are able to speak proper English.... what seems impossible for me....How Fifa organises those meetings with referees on the world cup, or organises the meetings before the worldcup?
DeleteI’m sure she speaks English, at least on a basic level. The observer and delegate are from Sweden and Montenegro respectively, I doubt they will communicate with her in Spanish.
DeleteNestor Pitana, referee in the WC-final 2018 don’t speak english.
DeleteI think the point here is that we are at a UEFA tournament where the language is English
DeleteI’d be shocked if Calderas doesn’t speak English
AFC also have an English language test.
DeleteIn their referee report, the observer can indicate a box saying "English to be improved". If that box is being ticked 3 times, the referee will get English classes via Skype from an instructor selected by UEFA. Within a certain period of time the official should pass the English test.
DeleteAnd @Eric: they usually use interpreters at meetings, for example during World Cups etc. So I guess they will have an English/Spanish interpreter for our Spanish tongue friends.
In addition to my comment above: I think you overestimate the English language skills of many UEFA officials, especially those from Eastern Europe and Spanish language countries.... Not meant to be racist or whatsoever but I've been there myself and seen it many times...
DeletePrediction for Group B
ReplyDeleteDEN v FIN: Demestrecu, Monzul, Valeri
GER v ESP: Frappart, Watson, Millot
I wouldn't have appointed Frappart in that match prior to the first set of appointments in MD2. Seeing as UEFA are not concerned using the same VAR's for the same teams, then I can see this appointment would make sense.
ReplyDeletePrediction for Group B
ReplyDeleteDEN v FIN: Demestrecu, Adamkova, Van Boekel
GER v ESP: Foster, Watson, Kavanagh
I highly doubt that Foster will get both of the two biggest games in the group stage
Deleteshe could well get ENG v NIR in MD3 group A. That would be a good appointment!!
Delete(Just like Atkinson in Euro 2016)
Appointments for Group B:
ReplyDeleteDEN v FIN: Demestrecu, Foster, Van Boekel
GER v ESP: Frappart, Projkovska, Millot
Again, Millot with a group B match - I can see why the appointment of Frappart has been made, but surely the same VAR can be avoided.
Predictions for Group C:
ReplyDeleteSWE v SWI: Welch, Watson, Kavanagh
NED v POR: Martincic, Adamkova, Valeri
Predictions for Group C:
DeleteSWE v SWI: Martincic, Welch, Kavanagh
NED v POR: Lehtovaara, Watson, Valeri
Ella de Vries wasn't on the initial list of selected officials.
ReplyDeletetrue - so is Higler not around now?
DeleteFor now, he remains on the UEFA website for the BELISL game. We will have to wait and see if that changes until kick-off.
DeleteHigler is appointed for a game to be played today.
DeleteThere should be other reasons for this new appearance, but still quite particular to have her in a AVAR role, one could have expected replacements maybe only for main referees.
De Vries seems to have been selected for the tournament a week after the rest of the officials, per this news article: https://www.dhnet.be/sports/football/2022/04/27/ella-de-vries-designee-assistante-var-en-angleterre-pour-leuro-de-football-feminin-RB32YC56WRFXJHVBJOVRDQAKRY/
DeleteSWE-SUI: Huerta de Aza confirmed by UEFA
ReplyDeleteGroup C Appointments
ReplyDeleteSWE v SWI: Huerta da Aza, Caldera, Sanchez
NED v POR: Martincic, Watson, Valeri
Surprised that Huerta & Caldera have little rest (albeit as 4th official) would have put her in group D.
ReplyDeleteGroup D Predictions:
ReplyDeleteITA v ICE: Adamkova, Watson, Kwiatolski
FRA v BEL: Lehtovaara, Projkovska, Martins
Martincic the last referee to make debut, Huerta first with second game.
ReplyDeleteTess Olofsson in Belgium - Iceland
ReplyDelete29' - OFR for assigning a penalty after missed handball
https://streamff.com/v/32531c
Difficult to spot for referee, maybe AR2? She was checking the offside with ball coming in penalty area.
64' - Penalty
https://streamff.com/v/f8b966
Correct / supportable decision.
85' - YC for reckless challenge
https://streamff.com/v/10f6d5
No doubt it was a clear call.
88' and 89' - At first penalty appeal for handball, then penalty whistled on the subsequent action and correct flag by AR2 to annul it,
https://streamff.com/v/01e38e
Interesting minutes. Maybe with a bit of delay by referee and a look at AR before (this is very often told to referees before making such big calls on Quick attacks), the penalty decision could have been avoided, but never a negative thing, the call was absolutely correct.
Who is in charge of referees at this Women's Euro: Rosetti or Damkova?
ReplyDeleteOfficially: Damkova. In reality: Rosetti. Damkova proposes appointments to Rosetti, who confirms them (or makes adjustments) before they will be communicated to anybody else.
DeleteI wasn’t able to see the second half from Barrera, but I thought the first half was good. Did anyone see the full game, can we expect her a second time?
ReplyDeleteNot a real challenge for her, a few fouls and no cards.
DeleteIf committee wanted to make a detailed idea, I think this game didn't help. But of course it is not referee's fault, so she should get a second game, let's see which one. One could predict a decisive tie but with a team clearly favorite and maybe the other already close to elimination? This could be the next scenario, I think.
That would be group C, with all teams at 1 right now but Sweden and Netherlands clear favorites (of course no one will be eliminated before that game so decisive on paper)
Deletewe obviously have to wait, I wouldn't be surprised if a game like FIN v GER maybe an option in MD3
DeleteExtremely soft penalty by Hussein, VAR should confirm the call, but it is a crucial mistake in reality. It is close to simulation.
ReplyDeleteNot much contact, but still an absolutely supportable decision for me.
DeleteThe penalty call was even worse than the penalty Fred got in the 2014 WC.
DeleteSorry, but I watched it several times, and for me the penalty is AT LEAST supportable.
DeleteWhat a joke penalty. Clear simulation.
ReplyDeleteLike EURO 2017, Hussein awards a very cheap if not wrong penalty to the home nation in their second game
ReplyDeleteI am a supporter from England but I thought that was never a penalty. Did not appear to be any consequential contact to take down the legs of the attacker. Also, the English player did not appeal suggesting that she wasn’t fouled.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the laws off the game, this is a clear penalty! well seen by Hussein, and just verry stupid off the Norwegian defence!
ReplyDeleteWhere in the laws of the game does it say if you put a hand on an opponent and they fall over its a foul?
DeleteEric, I don’t think you are serious with this comment.
DeleteNo, it was a 3 times holding, until the attacker finally fell. We play soccer, this is not wrestling. Reminded me to Italy vs South Korea in the WC with our friend from Ecuador, who finally destroyef his performance in favour of South Korea with his huge arrogance. But the first penalty after holding was simply correct, even if the Italians, as always, did not want to believe.
DeleteIt's football, not handball, the Norwegian defender used her arms/hands to push, and pull her opponent 3 times, where in the laws u guys can find this is legal? Maybe it's soft....but i said it before.... Why a defender takes the risk in the penaltybox to use her hands to defend, while she knows a referee can give a penalty for that, and then when that happened.... we are all so surprised! For me still a clear penalty!
DeleteIn the laws off the game at rule 12
DeleteA direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player does commits one of the following offences:
• holds an opponent;
• blocks an opponent with contact;
as we al know a direct free kick in the penalty area.... is a penalty!
The laws of the game also says the goalkeeper can hold the ball only 6 seconds. How often to do you see a referee go exactly be the book? This was not a foul. Holding an opponent is a part of the game now. She fell after the holding...
DeleteI think the 6 seconds rule and holding is quit a weird comparisation iff you ask me.... holding in general is not allowed, so why suddenly in the penalty area it should be allowed... one referee is stricter than the other with it, but thats the risk the defender takes, and this time she got punished by the referee, doesn't mean the referee is wrong!
DeleteI get the feeling that in Eric van Marwijk's utopian vision of how football should be played. The players would run around the pitch with their arms glued to their sides so as to never run the risk of physically touching another player. Keep dreaming bud! That's not how football is played in the real world. In the real world, players who dive should be punished not rewarded.
DeleteEric, you can’t hide behind the book. Not if you watched all the UEFA RAP clips of the past years, this would be never an offence.
DeleteThe main question is: did she fall because of the contact or did she “make use” of the contact. Definitely the latter. It was close to simulation >> gave me Neymar WC2018 (Kuipers) vibes. In Real speed it looked something, in slowmo its nothing. IMO it is a shame that VAR can’t overrule this decision. UEFA Protocol sucks.
In the real world.... i'm a certtified referee for already 14 years, and yes i admitt i'm quit strict with fysical play, and no i would not allow pushing, kicking and pulling arround! Uefa and Fifa should not do either, yes it's maybe more attractive (financial maybe good for uefa, and sponsors), but referees are not there for the sponsors, and for the tv, they are there to apply the laws off the game, off course with some feeling for the game and to take care off players safety! i got so many times compliments(i take care off the players safety) about my refereeing,...i give players a lot off freedom, don't give many cards, even i'm quit talkative, and allow players to do to me, but i'm strict with misbehavior, pushing, kicking and pulling around when it's not needed and 99 procent off my matches staff and players are happy after the match, in 14 years never got big problems
DeleteNow a wrong offside flag by AR1 in a quite clear situation, the worst start of a refereeing team at this EURO, I would say. And totally unexpected.
ReplyDeleteIMO no clear error, but no penalty
DeleteWell, this offsidecall was really a bad joke... Good we have VAR!!!
DeleteNot close to being offside there, 2 defender playing the attacker onside. VAR correctly overturns to give goal.
ReplyDeleteSoft penalty. Happy that VAR didn't falsely intervene like yesterday. But this and the incorrect offside decision don't make it a good start to the tournament for Hussein.
ReplyDeleteIf that penalty was given against my team I would be upset. The initial arm across was not enough for a foul and there was no subsequent contact to cause her legs to move the way they did. I would argue simulation as it was done to deceive.
ReplyDeletePoor decision from AR1, rightly given after VAR check
Pen haha come on.
ReplyDeleteIf UEFA takes the same measures as in the '21 Euros regarding cheap penalties (Lahoz, Turpin), this was already the last match of Husseins tournament.
ReplyDeleteTurpin also had the issue of not awarding 2YC, but of course we had the offside decision here - we’ll see what UEFA does, this won’t get any attention due to score so maybe she can stay because of that
DeleteKaer, for the good of the game. It would be the best (just) decision by the UEFA Referee Committee. England is a good side. They're good enough to win matches without receiving unneeded extra help.
DeleteIn 67' a very interesting situation, even potential RC for DOGSO, I think. However, correct by VAR to stay silent because we can't be 100% sure about possession of ball to be gained. Fully careless contact while running by defender on attacker, I think that she didn't even see opponent coming, but clear foul. I think it was totally missed by Hussein, difficult to spot. A RC wouldn't have been questioned by VAR, but for me YC expected decision for SPA.
ReplyDeletefor me this is more accident than foul. dont know if offside in app. but i would ask: who initiates the contact? for me the attacker crosses the pathway of the defender and not viceversa...and I dont see any extra movement by the defender. she doesnt even see the attacker...if you give the foul, then can only be yc...rc impossible as there is no ball-control
DeleteThat is what i tould a few days before.We gave many referees like Husseim, Staubli, Adamkova, monzul they were great. But now, they make so many misstakes or forgot the feeling for the game. I dont know if the countrys have other options. I saw söder from germany in s game and grundbacher from switzerland last year in australia. I dont know why the uefa didnt change some referees.
DeleteThe truth about Reim Hussein is that she's consistently shown that she's a "so-so" referee at best. She has absolutely zero feel for the game. She is completely clueless in regards to the true "spirit of the game". She has ruined too many sonorous matches with her incomprehensible approach to officiating. However, this reflects poorly on DFB, as she is the "best" they have and have no better options. Until UEFA/FIFA realizes that she's not worth having as a referee any longer. She'll continue on her merry way ruining matches. And no, the final score does not in any way shape, or form excuse her from her cluelessness.
ReplyDeleteHarsh? Yeah! Deserved? Definitely! Because women's football deserves better!
Perhaps "absolutely zero feel for the game", "completely clueless" and "ruined too many... matches" is a bit of an exaggeration, Sheriff? Heaven knows why I remember this (:D), but I recall you praising her GS performances at WWC 2019 too. Excluding the following Norway vs. Australia game in that R16 where her DOGSO red call was thrown out by FIFA internally, I can't recall other (sonorous) matches "ruined" by her (- and a RC at 104' in a game which then goes to a penalty competition is hardly "ruining", to be honest).
DeleteI agree, btw: the penalty was rather wrong, the attacker fell of her own accord after the ball was no longer under control. Given that some kind of holding did exist though, the situation is more RUSDEN (-> correct non-intervention) than PORFRA pk2 (-> missed intervention) for UEFA. Hussein is a good referee IMO and personally I think a rejection here would be a bit exaggerated. From the times that I've watched her (inc. a Portugal vs. Finland qualifier with, iirc, three penalties) it does seem though that she suffers from what is a quite rare thing as elite football referee - being a bit 'too courageous'.
There is a clear resemblabce to the Barcelona-Chelsea CL Final, 2021: A dubious penalty (then there was no contact at all, this time there was the initial one - grabbing the upper arm/shoulder of Wright. The second "holding" was "assisted" by Wright's simulation - a rare occasion of cheating among females). The contest was "killed" (then Barcelona went on for a 4-0 lead at half-time, now the margin at half-time was even bigger).
DeleteIt was the same laid-back approach by a German VAR (then, Dankert, now Dingert) choosing not to intervene. The opposite approach was demonstrated by Kavanagh, overzealously actually overruling his compatriot's RC decision.
I agree with you Mikael. I saw a questionable penalty - yes. But if I compare the overall-performance with the shown performances so far, I would not say it was less. I would even say I saw one of only a few performances with no missed foul calls or cards. I saw a good understanding of the game (f.e. good application of advantage, etc.), I saw good communication with the players and a reliable structure in application of Law12. From a footballers perspective this match could not be ruined by a ref...the only question was how many England would score until half-time. Yes, the penalty was a bit of a can opener, but when you see the many blatant defensive errors of Norway...it is then easy to blame the ref, but in this case way too harsh...
DeleteAfter reading carefully grumpy-ref's post, I would like to differentiate between the two @dubious@ decisions I referred to at 09:07: The Barcelona penalty-kick decision was definitely erroneous, while lat evening's decision should be coined "controversial".
Delete(completely agree grumpy-r. and anonymous :))
DeleteTalking about bad VAR decisions...
ReplyDeleteThis one is worse than the one in Italy v France.
https://twitter.com/AttackingThird/status/1544107147042213893
Some referees are very incompetent.
DeleteIMO RC is absolutely supportable. Very bad intervention by VAR
DeleteJust like the France game the players intention was to play the ball. Like the Nani incident. Seems like these VAR refs went by that instead of the actual foul.
DeleteYes, Anonymous, I thought about that as well and this should be the (very poor) explanation. Going for the ball, maybe slightly touching it, and everything is allowed :)
DeleteHow can a top ref (Marie-Soleil) cannot stick to her initial on-field call ? yes VAR is a non-sense, but how can a top ref cannot stand for her field decision even after reviewing ? Is it pressure ? is it fear of denying var ? I may feel i'm has-been but where is sole discretion of the ref if the big boss is not any longer on the field but in video center ? After Rebecca who is also excellent ref, a second one is also fallen to VAR Diktat. Var is a good thing to correct big mistakes but France-Italy and this last clip are awful for credibility of VAR and more, for referees who gave up their power to off-field refs.
DeleteVAR was Carol Anne Chenard (Canada, same country as referee Beaudoin), former two-time World Cup referee. She was immediately appointed as VAR for another matches, so her intervention was supported by Concacaf. She just followed the current guidelines from FIFA that make differentiation between a full contact and a glancing contact. Like it or not, this is the instruction and match officials have to follow it.
DeleteApparently, Higler is back in as AVAR for DENFIN.
ReplyDeleteGroup D Appointments:
ReplyDeleteITA v ICE: Lehtovaara, Demetrescu, Martins,
FRA v BEL: Foster, Watson, Kwiatolski
Given how late the appointments came out, possibly some changes to the planned choice?
ReplyDeleteAnd, Sian Massey is now with Foster, should we assume that Welch & Kavanagh may not receive another match?
It's difficult to judge how they will appoint the NIR v ENG game. As really, it's a nothing game in the scheme of things yet it's a Derby of the home nation.
ReplyDeleteThe NOR v AUS game I would imagine has a QF spot riding on it! Will need a big name on this (Monzul, Frappart or Martincic)
Group A Predictions:
ReplyDeleteENG v NIR: Adamkova, Projkovska, Van Boekel
AUS v NOR: Monzul, Martincic, Valeri
Sian Massey-Ellis replaces the Cypriot AR in Foster's team, if we compare the appointment with the previous one for the Welsh, but this can't give us any clue, because there can be many reasons. Maybe the fact that the appointments have been published with delay today can be just a small thing in favor of that... one could also say, as somebody wrote, that committee wants to appoint Sian Massey in many games and not only with Welch. We will see the next appointment, in case, for the English team...
ReplyDeleteWelch can only be appointed in Group B & C and I can see really DEN v SPA in group B as the logical choice (if she is to be appointed)(as Staubli, Monzul, Demetrescu, Frappart have already been appointed there and Hussein can't whilst Caldera/Huerta as 4th could only do FIN v GER). All have potentially a second game to come.
ReplyDeleteSo we should know more tomorrow!!
Probably the winner from DEN-ESP will meet ENG. Then Welsh couldn't whistle.
Deleteor ESP could beat GER tonight and then its the winner of the other fixture that would meet ENG :-)
DeleteThat is also possible ;-)
DeleteWell whatever the results today, the game will be decisive for the England opponent I think (a Spain win later still means Denmark can get 2nd), maybe Adamkova for DEN-ESP? Not sure why Monzul was used for ESP-FIN in the toughest group btw, she would have been a great option
DeleteDidn’t Frappart have 2 games in the same group last EUROs? In that case, we could see either Monzul or Staubli again
DeleteYes, it seems Adamkova, Caldera, Martincic & Welch are only options for group B.
ReplyDeleteWell that was probably the easiest debut half Demetrescu could have asked for, I would even say too easy: she’s had absolutely nothing to do, let’s hope she actually gets to make some decisions later
ReplyDeleteSevecke should have been booked twice missed YC by Demetrescu and i am evne from Denmark
DeleteAgree. She had also poor recognition of fouls. Missed penalty for FIN as well.
DeleteIn 75', possible second YC for a player who was alreayd booked, otherwise very easy game to handle for the Romanian.
ReplyDeleteI mean that should have been her second yellow for reckless tackle even through that sige touches the ball
DeleteYes possible 2nd yellow but I think an expected performance.
DeleteFrappert has a real presence on the field, similar to Kuipers. The players have trust in her decision making and just get on with it. Good YC after half an hour or so. Not much to do because thr players are focussed on playing
ReplyDeleteThere was an offside in the build-up prior to the corner-kick which led to the second German goal. Coppola was unable to detect it because of the well-known perspective hindrance - the player in the offside position was too close to AR1.
ReplyDeleteFor me, missed RC for DOGSO by Frappart, at such high speed this has to be a foul and therefore a sending off
ReplyDeleteNow an absolutely clear foul (DOGSO) shirt pull but Frappart says no and VAR says nothing. Unbelievable decision. When it's clear VAR is silent but when they should be silent they intervene...
ReplyDeletePossible DOGSO? Not clear until seen from behind the attacking goal. Not even a hint of a check
ReplyDeleteAs a referee, you have to recognize this situation already on the pitch, and if not where is the VAR? Inconceivable. Big mistake by both referee and VAR.
DeleteYes, people forget there is still a referee on the field who missed a very clear foul.
DeleteClear red card missed by Frappart
ReplyDeleteCatastrophic non-action by Millot for a clear DOGSO. Hard to see for Frappert, but this is what VAR is there for. I’ve never seen a more obvious shirt and boob grab!
ReplyDeleteMissed DOGSO by French Crew.
ReplyDeleteMaybw not DOGSO because Popp had not the possession of the ball and therefore didn't react. Disappointing nevertheless.
DeleteOne could be cynical and say of course VAR does not interven because it would result in giving a RC and not in revoking one. ;) Clear error not to intervene, IMHO, prolonged DOGSO shirt pulling.
ReplyDeleteVAR has been an absolute mess this tournament so far.
ReplyDeleteBEL-ICE was Perfect VAR-working
DeleteFor me this is a situation in which an OFR has to be executed. RC is the way better - if not the only correct - outcome and there is no way that Frappart has seen the incident completely based on her position.
ReplyDeleteThat should be Welch, Hussein and Frappart out - maybe not for the entire tournament, as they represent big associations and the options would be very limited without them, but they should be out for the final at the very least and if UEFA didn’t so far, they will probably save someone now to ensure they remain with a suitable option
ReplyDeleteWhy Hussein out? The Penalty she gave was clear and consequent about the guidelines from UEFA before the tournament.
DeleteFor me Foster, Barrera, Huerta, Staubli and Monzul with the best performances so far.
DeleteFor me the best performances (and we haven't seem Martincic yet) are Foster, Huerta and Lehtovaara. I was also pleasantly surprised (as I haven't seen that much of them) by Demetrescu & Olofsson. I understand that some haven't been tested yet, I like their style.
DeleteI really need to see other angles as from my point of view Frappart was in complete control and as EX England Ref said had the respect of the players!
Understandable that Frappart doesn't see the pulling offence from her position but no explanation for the no-intervention.
ReplyDeleteTo me the error is with VAR - Frappert could not have seen for certain what we saw from behind the goal. Hence you invite her to review it.
ReplyDeleteShe will be disappointed
Sorry we have VAR!!! Where is it!!!! So clear dogso!!!!
ReplyDeleteSorry, why the referee did not see this clear foul? Not the VAR made the first mistake.
DeleteBtw, on this blog we’ve said before that UEFA ‘burns’ big candidates by appointing them to the biggest clash so they can appoint someone pre-decided to the final, so we shouldn’t see a big appointment as a compliment. Do you think UEFA wanted to ‘burn’ Frappart by giving her the biggest clash in the group stage?
ReplyDeleteNo. She’s done a great job so far, excellent foul identification and match control. Except for the DOGSO, which was near impossible to see from her distance and angle. The mistake is with Millot and he should not VAR again, just like Kavanagh.
DeleteNot at all. There has been one big incident in a very calm game and she missed it and so did VAR. In no way is this UEFA's fault or plan. Get the calls right and that's it.
DeleteFirst mistake by Frappart, because this foul must be seen by referee. Second mistake VAR, because clear intervention missed.
DeleteIMO Monzul and Lehtovaara are kept in the shadow so far. They are big candidates based on that strategy. Their countries don’t play a role either.
DeleteRegarding Frappart - Les Blues are one of the favorites. I can see her getting a QF with other VAR and then go home if the French indeed reach the SF
22:33 You should never excuse a referees decision because of the angle. She chose the angle, she chose where to stand. She chose to show the players that they collided and there was no foul. It's her fault. And the refs in the VAR room where no better.
DeleteTo everyone only blaming VAR: Frappart didn’t signal “I didn’t see it”, she clearly signaled “no foul / not enough”
ReplyDeleteYou can stop for dogso, but she did a clear signal to play on and soft foul according to her. It's maybe not the best call but i prefer to see a ref who remains the boss on field can one to be overturned by var even though they made the right call. Here it's just an interpretation foul. She may be wrong but i'm not far from thinking she made the right decision with a soft holding IMO. Nobody will talk about after. She remains the leader of ref team on field and did not undergo var diktat.
Delete"Not enough" because she could not see how much of the shirt (and body part) the defender had hold of.
ReplyDeleteI agree make more of an angle as you chase the ball but I still dont think she would have realised the severity.
If only we had the technology to show her that angle!!!
If you can’t see it, just tell the players you can’t see it and don’t tell them that it’s not a foul!
DeleteWholeheartedly disagree. You make a decision on the pitch based on what you see. She didn’t know she didn’t see everything that mattered. That’s absolutely what VAR is for.
DeleteAnd blaming her for positioning? On a sudden counter attack with a crazy long ball that’s in the air for 50 meters? Give me a break.
I think Frappart will stay, but perhaps with a different VAR in her next game.
ReplyDeleteThe non-intervention is just a small footnote here, as it did not influence the outcome of the game. Germans won and are qualified. Comparable to the opening game at euro’21 where just the VAR was blamed for a non-intervention
Crucial mistake by ref and especially VAR. VAR should be out for the rest of the tournament. Frappart did a really good job - and destroyed her performance in that situation, pretending that she could judge the situation, but... she couldn't and she was left alone by the VAR, who simply failed to do his job. And THAT was simply unbelievable.
ReplyDeleteOT: Matt Conger will be refereeing MLS matches for the duration of the season. No set quota of matches, to my understanding. But you will see him whistle by the end of this month.
ReplyDeletePopp did fall of her own accord btw. But I think we can all see that this was a clear mistake to play on/missed RC. Frappart to be rejected though? I suspect not (Millot more likely to get the boot, then she can stay without problems).
ReplyDeleteBesides: I was stunned how little 'armoury' Frappart presented in the ≈half-an-hour after the blown DOGSO call. Control of the players actions was close to ZERO. Only some a-bit panicky foul calls saved her from losing match control. And this was not really a hard game at all. Hussein and even Monzul by far had a better style to be honest.
Remember - the Frenchwoman's rivals to referee a match at the FIFA World Cup finals (we can be sure that one will ref a match) in a few months are: a Rwandan lady who only came into focus by being (actually) competent and from Africa at the Olympics (W), and a woman who officiates in the third tier of Japanese football(!!!), making her J.2 debut only last weekend.
Keep me loud laughing... it's too funny to read your tonite's comments. Compare Frappart and Hussein. You're in short of sleep ?
DeletePredictions MD3
ReplyDeleteNIR-ENG: Olofsson, Spahic (SWE), Overtoom (NED), Projkovska (MKD) - van Boekel, Higler (NED)
AUT-NOR: Adamkova, Ratajova (CZE), Sukenikova (SVK), Hussein (GER) - Vanderstichel, Millot (FRA)
FIN-GER: Welch, Rashid (ENG), di Monte (ITA), Watson (SCO) - Kavanagh (ENG), Valeri (ITA)
DEN-ESP: Calderas, Rodriguez (VEN), Blanco (COL), Staubli (SUI) - Godinho, Martins (POR)
SUI-NED: Frappart, Coppola, Nicolosi (FRA), Foster (WAL) - Millot (FRA), Cuadra (ESP)
SWE-POR: Demetrescu, Iugulescu (ROU), Vad (HUN), Monzul (UKR) - Osmers (GER), Mariani (ITA)
ISL-FRA: Hussein, Rafalski (GER), Baranowska (POL), Olofsson (SWE) - Dingert (GER), Sanchez (ESP)
ITA-BEL: Martincic, Rodak (CRO), Spur (SVN), Adamkova (CZE) - Frankowski, Kwiatkowski (POL)
(Direct QFs for Staubli and Monzul - experienced and no big controversies in first match)
I'm sorry but do you really think UEFA will give Kavanagh another game because I highly doubt that
DeleteAlso Frappart in SUI-NED is probably not possible when the winner/runner up of Group C will play the runner up/winner of Group D (France's group)
DeleteQuite possible that Overtoom will not be appointed again - very (too) weak at Olofsson's side in BELISL. Welch and Rashid to FINGER would be my guess as well, but IMO rather with Irodotou as second AR + NED/POL VAR duo. Actually, the Cypriot lineswoman HAS to continue her tournament or UEFA lose huge credibility, risk big damage to internal morale - Irodotou was 100% without fault in NEDSWE, but jettisoned from Foster's team only because of Welch/Kavanagh inadequacy (-> need to keep FA happy, so place Massey-Ellis with Foster-O'Neill for a British Isles trio).
DeleteThanks for the feedback.
Delete@Kavanagh/Overtoom: NIRENG and FINGER are not decisive anymore, therefore I think it would be no problem to appoint them again there. And of course, we don't know (only hope), whether UEFA really disliked the VAR intervention.
@Frappart: I don't think, it's completely impossible, e.g. Steinhaus had BELNED in EURO 2017, when both could meet Germany in the next round. Furthermore, she can't really referee in the other groups (Group A would be a quite short break), so the only alternative would be a direct QF. This could happen, but also is not ideal after the mistake yesterday.
@Irodotou: Good point. I was just assuming, that she might be unavailable and therefore replaced in Foster's team.
NIR-ENG: Adamkova, Projkovska, Van Boekel
DeleteAUT-NOR: Monzul, Olofsson, Valeri
FIN-GER: Welch, Watson, Kavanagh
DEN-ESP: Martincic, Demetrescu, Martins
SUI-NED: Frappart, Hussein, Millot
SWE-POR: Calderas, Huerta, Sanchez
ISL-FRA: Staubli, Lehtovaara, Kwiatolski
ITA-BEL: Hussein, Projkovska, Dingbert
Difficult to know what UEFA feel about VAR's so I'll stick with they will remain in GS
If I already have to predict VAR teams for the last three games, it would be a Polish, Dutch and Italian crew. All specialists and I don't see Italy or NL reaching a semi-final ;)
ReplyDeleteAt least, if Italy & NL do not meet in the quarters :D
DeleteOtherwise the Portuguese crew as back-up. Or the Germans, but I can see them go far this EURO
Is possible if Italy are 2nd in group D (assuming that France tops their group) and Netherlands are 1st in group C.
DeleteBut NL with all the covid infections and injuries, I doubt they win the group. Sweden is the favorite in group C imo
can we have a video about dogso missed ?
ReplyDeleteI will post it later if nobody will anticipate me.
DeleteFrom Demetrescu game
ReplyDeleteFirst YC for blatant holding:
https://streamff.com/v/eef02a
Possible second YC to same player for reckless challenge:
https://streamff.com/v/dd46ba
Potential DOGSO from Germany - Spain
ReplyDeleteLive: https://streamff.com/v/3e9877
Replay: https://streamff.com/v/c0fc82
My opinion: not the best angle to make an assessment for Frappart, last replay is very clear about that, she couldn't see the real intensity of the holding as it happened on the other side than her point of view (body of player covering it). However, she made a gesture like she had seen and it was not enough to whistle. Now everything is about what she saw, as said, I think she didn't see exaclt the holding and it is possible she just thought about a body vs body charge,
In my opinion foul was very clear and DOGSO scenario as well, no doubts that attacker would have reached ball alone, without defender's action.
Now, into VAR question: I think Millot added the holding argument and the fact that Frappart had seen something, so two factors in favor of supporting referee, we all know how it works with holdings and the intensity... but I think he couldn't be sure that Frappart had saw it. It can be a missed intervention by VAR, but to me, according to protocol, we are at a very extreme border, with referee making signals about the incidents and the fact that an intensity must be assessed. I would have liked an OFR, but if one wants to be 100% strict to protocol, maybe still OK... apart from that, significant mistake by Frappart on the pitch, but as we could see, it was difficult for her to see it.
IMO clear foul and RC. VAR had to intervene
DeleteFoster's team same as in MD1 with Polyxeni Irodotou replacing Massey Ellis . Reason ?
ReplyDeleteWhere do you see that?
DeleteWrong PK by Huerta de Aza, Swedish player touched the ball first. Correct OFR by Sánchez Martínez.
ReplyDeleteOFR in Sweden - Switzerland to revoke a penalty whistled by Huerta de Aza. I think correct intervention, defender played ball before and then it was like attacker kicked her, never a foul by defender.
ReplyDeleteInteresting remark by Italian commentator about which I agree, differently from men's football, women rarely take advantage on such situations to get an easy penalty.
Agree that no penalty is (obviously) the more satisfying conclusion, but Sánchez Martínez's intervention is actually not justified according to UEFA's vision, right? A clear charging-ish contact did occur.
DeleteIf I wanted to say sth really polemicist: if Sánchez wasn't personally invested in his compatriot (and friend's?) fate at this tournament, then he probably wouldn't have intervened... :)
And it all gets a bit stupid, really, because >90% of football people see an intervention here as a (very) good use of VAR. Also for FIFA.
Personally invested? Is Sanchez Martinez in a relationship with Huerta de Aza? :)
DeleteA fully correct intervention by VAR in FIFA line, but indeed you are right Mikael, for UEFA, if we think at the strict protocol wanted by Rosetti, there can be doubts. Very small doubts, but still not a 100% clean decision (contact with opponent after ball). However, let me also add, this incident has something more in favor of intervention, than being a borderline case, you will surely agree. I think committee will accept this decision without problems, it was expected.
DeleteReporter in my country initially thought it was a PK for the push :)
ReplyDeleteVAR showed her different footage though. Maybe she had a wrong perception on the pitch (e.g. a foot on a foot)
‘16 no handball offence, ball on the arm via the body of other player
ReplyDeleteA lot of -0,5 performances this far. Some have been saved by VAR, some have remained incorrect decisions.
ReplyDeleteThe fysica strong and tall Swedish team is free-kick oriented. In other words, control the ball on Swiss halve, wait for the contact or push and fall down to win a free-kick. As a neutral watcher, not a big fan of that, and I’d love to see a referee take risk and/or act against that… Not easy though!
ReplyDelete83' possible penalty for Switzerland, in my opinion contact was clear, but maybe it was outside the box. A few seconds before, I think that she missed another foul, this one clearly outside, on a corner kick action, due to the position where it occurred (referee not 100% alert, similar to Adamkova issue in her game).
ReplyDeleteMy eyes are obviously a bit biased as a swede :) but it looked outside to me
DeleteAnd before the corner kick she missed another foul against Sweden
DeleteClearly outside. But it’s unnacceptable to miss fouls like this. It was a clear kick.
DeleteThis foul in 90'+6, wasn't on the line?
ReplyDeletePolyxénī Īrodótou back as AR2 with Foster according to UEFA.com. Considering they had "Sian Massey" without her country code, the initial appointment might have just been a mistake by the website. Or not.
ReplyDeleteThere can be arguments about possible COVID issues (now maybe solved with a negative result) and Massey in case would have been her replacement, this can also explain the delay of appointment, we can't know.
DeleteSlovenian AR not quite on the same page with delaying flag. Twice now flagged, referee allowed attack to continue and then penalised.
ReplyDeleteUff, what a start for AR2 Staša Špur: Both her flags for POR attacks (latter even led to a goal) were correct, but she immediately flagged and did not follow the game. Martinčić allowed play to continue and then whistled once she considered the attack concluded...
ReplyDeleteStaša Špur with two offside flags without waiting for the end of the action. Ivana Martinčić allowed the play to continue, in second case a goal was scored. Both decisions correct by assistant referee but surely something must be reviewed in terms of cooperation, you don't create a feeling with your teammate by acting like this (see her face when goal was scored). Maybe AR thought that it wasn't a promising attack in the two situations, but she was proved to be wrong by the goal scored.
ReplyDeleteBad start for AR2 with first a too early Call for offside and then on the offside goal she was far away from her position
ReplyDeleteI like that Spur raises the flag early on these relatively clear offside positions. That's how it should always be. You should only wait for tight decisions IMO. I know that there is another rule…
ReplyDeleteYou can like whatever you want but you have to follow the guidelines…
DeleteI mean, the guideline is to flag only when it is clear and to delay when in doubt - that is subjective of course and since she’s right she didn’t make a mistake if she indeed assessed it as clear
DeleteI thought the guidelines were to always keep it down no matter how clear but I might be wrong
DeletePossible SFP when goal scored, very good decision with a YC, because could have been easily missed. Low head and rather accidental incident make the yellow fully supportable according to UEFA.
ReplyDeleteNot enough for an OFR I'm sorry
ReplyDeleteClear penalty, correct intervention by Valeri, hard to see for Martincic.
DeleteItalian standard? I strongly doubt that a German or Dutch VAR would intervene.
DeleteThe decisions in this tournament get worse by the day
ReplyDelete?????
DeleteThat is a very clear Foul an penalty.
Elliot, which game are you watching?
ReplyDeletePlayer turns inside, has her foot taken, goes over. Initial view was she we tripped herself but a different angle showed otherwise. Exactly why VAR is there (Im sure Frappert is watching wishing her VAR had done same last night)
Very soft based on the Intensity of the contact…
DeleteYou could tell from all the replays the ref didnt want to give it but valeri convinced her
ReplyDeleteThey needed a slowmotion to see the contact. That says enough
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