Saturday 26 November 2022

Game 21 - Daniel Siebert in Tunisia vs. Australia (discussion)

German referee Daniel Siebert will make his World Cup debut in Tunisia - Australia. The rising star from  Germany is expected to show his skills that in recent past lead him to the selection for the major tournament in Qatar. A special wish of good luck. 



Game 21 - Al-Wakrah (11:00 CET)
TUNISIA - AUSTRALIA
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Said Martínez (HON)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Karen Díaz (MEX)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Corey Parker (USA)
Support Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Standby Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Katheryn Nesbitt (USA)

35 comments:

  1. Quite intense and hectic first 20 minutes. Many duels to assess but Siebert is doing a good job so far imo. But definitely feels like a game that can boil over quickly if he starts to get only a few foul calls wrong.

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  2. Tunisia player tripped over Siebert in build up to the goal. Intense game so far

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  3. 26': reckless challenge (and maybe just for discussion even something more), mandatory first YC by Siebert.

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  4. I make that at least 5 handballs called in the first less than 30 minutes of the game. That seems like a lot.

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  5. 31 tunisia sub threw the ball at Australian laying on ground with minimal force no YC. Why should that be allowed.

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    1. IMO Siebert solved this situation brilliantly

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    2. Well handled handled yes but I would still like the YC

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    3. I actually thought this was managed really well. Siebert went to talk to the player on the bench and then made him apologize to the Australian player. Way better than just dishing out a YC. (Of course YC would have still been possible)

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    4. The ball made contact with the player's head. No replay really showed the full context; I think Siebert is arguing that it wasn't thrown at the downed player on purpose, but I have a hard time seeing that as not even a yellow card based upon what we saw. The management was fine. That said I don't think there was any need to make the Australian player run all the way over to shake hands.

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  6. Loved his handling of the situation in 31'

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    1. Fully agree, this is called refereeing, being in between the players, and still have the authority!

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  7. In 41', a foul whistled that belongs to the famous story "keepers can't be touched..." but it was nothing if you ask me.

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  8. I've never been fully sold on Siebert previously, but the game management in this first half has been excellent!

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  9. Maybe some smaller decisions that could be discussed but I think still a pretty good and satisfying performance from Siebert in the first half. He has indeed done important homework on his game managment!

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  10. Maybe there were some missed YC in first half, but in general very good performance, he is consistent, the game is fully under control, and well manged in the 1st half

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  11. Quite a firm and concentrated impression by Siebert, IMO. The only really mandatory YC was in 26' and he gave it correctly. 2-3 minor calls that maybe went wrong (the foul on AUS GK in 41' being definitely wrong), but nothing too important, I would say.

    I am completely on the side of those arguing that the situation with the bench in 31' has been solved excellently. We have no proof that the ball was thrown at the AUS player's head on purpose. Quite the contrary, it all felt like a coincidence, and I think that a friendly chat those two players had at the end of the 1H proves that. Giving a YC in such a situation seems unfair and would put unnecessary pressure on the referee for the remainder of the match.

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  12. If you want to turn back to yesterday, our reports on the games:

    WALIRN (Escobar):
    http://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2022/11/game-17-mario-escobar-in-wales-vs-iran.html?showComment=1669456662462#c5690889536652577755

    QATECU (Mateu):
    http://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2022/11/game-18-antonio-mateu-lahoz-in-qatar-vs.html?showComment=1669454438515#c7811214438049785939

    NEDECU (Ghorbal):
    http://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2022/11/game-19-mustapha-ghorbal-in-netherlands.html?showComment=1669408466729#c5067674836966236343

    ENGUSA (Valenzuela):
    http://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2022/11/game-20-jesus-valenzuela-in-england-vs.html?showComment=1669413337402#c243412768057952800

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    1. And in addition, overview of all reports for every game can be found here :)

      https://mikaelreferee.blogspot.com/p/wc22refs.html

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  13. 52': possible YC for a reckless challenge after a penalty appeal (correct to play on), the game escalated.

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    1. Should have been given IMO, according to the presented line and due to game control reasons you refer to.

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  14. Below average performance in a match without any key incidents so far. He tripped tripped the player marking Aus nr 17 who later scored. Maybe accidental but with better positioning he could avoid that.
    Terrible foul detection, safe refereeing, whistling everytime a defender/goalkeeper falls in PK area. No real acceptance by the players on the pitch, small protests almost after every foul whistled or not whistled. Annoying constant whistling three or four times.
    Some other referees would have been destroyed for this performance in this blog.
    The only positive thing is handling the thrown ball from the bench in the first half.

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    1. I think this is a little harsh but I agree with this more than with some of the more complimentary comments. Easy game with well-behaved teams and not a whole lot to deal with. Some small mistakes (positioning leading to the goal blocking a Tunisian player, pretty bad foul decision at 41' that stopped an attack). His body language isn't very convincing to me. Not too much for him to do, easy game as the committee probably expected.

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    2. I ask myself what game you saw... Just a completely normal and rather easy match, good communication and YCs, where needed, some little mistakes, not completely convincing in terms of body language, so all in all - average.

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    3. Sorry Lukas086. But your comment is complete nonsense.
      Im not a fan of Siebert but well done. Full acceptance by pkayers and full control. Very good big picture. Minor errors with no influence ob the fame. No VAR needed.

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  15. I must confess that I have never quite understood Sieberts progress beyond UEFA First Category, but I was astonished at the referee's passive positioning today. Stuck in the middle of the pitch, he was far away when play was on the flanks and got in the way when the ball was played through the middle (eg 1-0). I am sure that Germany has better referees than Siebert.

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    1. I expect that Osmers and Jablonski might be the rising stars next seasons.

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  16. Siebert is a solid referee and his today's performance was good.

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  17. Haven't watched this game, but two general comments.

    1. If it's up to those commenting in this blog, this WC would have a very high number of YCs and very likely players already in danger of suspension. We have the world's best match officials at this tournament. These officials have a range of personal styles and approaches. However, they can all more than manage things without immediately reaching into their pockets.

    2. Speaking of the world's best match officials. The majority are painted quite poorly by the armchair comments made here. Some of those comments are based on a very short-sighted and/or poor understanding of refereeing.

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    1. Totally agree dear friend Ref Al. I already read each comment that seems to me basketball instead football. If depends of these comments all games of this WC will be fully of PKs or expulsions. We need remember that FIFA's priority consider the spetacle, not a sttoped game!

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    3. 1) Referees don't "give out" cards. Players "EARN" them with "their actions". We as referees oblige them by enforcing the LOTG. The "goons" who go out to make the game messy are not the ones who the fans go to see.

      2) Agree to disagree. You a$$ume you know the referee's knowledge all of all here and you dismiss any dissenting or critical comment as being made by ill-informed people. Maybe it's you that is short-sighted and ill-informed.

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  18. I totally agree. A missed freekick here a wrong throw in there... totally unimportant. No one has 100% correct decisions. The big decisions must be correct. No one talks about the ref. The best compliment for a ref.

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  19. Analysis

    Daniel Siebert navigated through the game well, focusing on the invidual assessment of the several incidents, and showing mandatory cards only.

    Three fully corrects YCs issued in 26'(charging),64'(SPA- holding)
    and 90+3' (SPA handling). In fact, there have been plenty of situations where a card was possible as well (31',35',39',50',51',58',62'), but the German didn't reached his pocket.
    This area wasn't quite optimally handled in my eyes, especially with the rather high amount of borderline challenges sorted by Australian players, who got away, Siebert allowed them too much, I believe.

    Foul detection was quite a strong suit for the German, besides some FKs missed in 22',30',38' and 90+6' coupled with a wrong FK in 41' (a smart whistle to avoid any trouble rather than a detection failure, if you ask me :) ), he was sharp in assessing the high number of duels he faced.

    Everything went fine on a presence level: excellent management of accidental ball kicking in 31', good reaction in 43' after a FK. Strong gestures and body language as well.

    AR1 had a very calm afternoon, and AR2 only missed a blatant handball right before him at the very end of the game

    A decent job by Siebert and his team; they can hope for a second appointment in this GS.

    Marks: ( 7 - 7 - 7 - III )

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