Fußball Arena München, Munich (GER)
FC Bayern München - Beşiktaş JK
Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Gheorghe (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: István Kovács (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Colţescu (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Ghinguleac (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: João Morais (POR)
20.02.2018, 20:45 CET
Stamford Bridge, London (ENG)
Chelsea FC - FC Barcelona
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
Stamford Bridge, London (ENG)
Chelsea FC - FC Barcelona
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Kris Bellon (BEL)
Definitely nothing new under the sun, with Çakır appointment.
ReplyDeleteChelsea - Barcelona is again for him, after 2011/12 excellent performance in CL semifinal, before the EURO tournament.
Standard appointment also for Hațegan, I would say.
Who have seen the RC for Lozano (PSV)? In the game PSV- Heereveen (referee: Dennis Higler) I will look for a video.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/1lxhd
DeleteGood decision. It looks softer on slow motion obviously. But at real speed you can see it's excessive force. He strikes his opponent. Completely unnecessary act.
DeleteLozano was unlucky to not have had Willie Collum (Scotland) as the referee for this match. Because he would have be able to stay on the pitch with only a caution just like Shaktar's Taison did.
DeleteCan you help, please!
ReplyDeleteIn what game law was the referee based on this move? (Ref. Paixão, ex-Fifa)
https://ligaportugal.vsports.pt/vod/42112/m/361963/liga/9ee7227d72d15eb5b33ed667f0b5b3d2
Very wrong. Yellow card for SPA is the only correct thing there.
DeleteYou consider penalty?
DeleteI get the idea that the grab ends out of the box.
50/50 he still has contact near the line and the angle is too bad to tell.
DeleteAs observer, any decision that the referee would have taken, I would support him. Quite difficult to confirm if it was inside-outside. Talking about the colour of the card, I consider is closer to SPA rather than DOGSO, so YC should be correct (holding). Nevertheless, quite difficult situation to evaluate for the referee. With a AAR would be easier in that challange (he would have the complementary angle of vision).
DeleteThere is VAR in Portugal!
DeleteVAR should intervines when there is a CLEAR / OBVIUS mistake made by the referee. There are not conclusive image to say that the referee commited a wrong call
DeleteHow do you see this decision? (Ref: Xistra, Fifa)
ReplyDeleteIs there a lack?
YC or RC?
https://www.vsports.pt/vod/42091/m/361970/dn/9d13baa790a5624448a23af65d746d6c
Red to me. It's an obvious goal scoring oppurtunity because he can easily shoot the ball and score if he didn't get tackled.
Deleteit seems clear that if the referee considers that there was foul, in that case would be DOGSO, so it must be RC. IMO there isn´t foul, neither simulation, so play on should be the best decision,
DeleteOT:
ReplyDeleteBiggest Croatian match was played between Dinamo and Hajduk and again there were many controversies about decisions taken by the refereee.
Man in charge was Tihomir Pejin and even some german sites wrote that his officiating was scandalous.
There are 3 important situations:
1-Goalkeeper made contact with ball outside the penalty area:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQZN9EZds6k
2-Hajduk's goal was ruled out -offside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PutR-mRtIRk
3-Biggest talking point,penalty awarded to Dinamo and 2nd yc to Hajduk's Borja Lopez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H4rVs86JiI
What do you guys think about Pejin's decisions?
Because this is not the first time that the media are saying that his officiating was scandalous so I was surprised when he was appointed for 2nd time in a row(!!!)to officiate this big match.
His 1st match between these two:
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhib0LgGLzw
1:On replay it is clear it was outside the box and should be a red card and free kick.
Delete2:Very difficult to see when the replay shows no lines. Either it's perfect or slightli a few centimeters offside. I can't say the AR is wrong. He might actually be correct.
3:Difficult. He raises the arm before contact. The ball hits the blur player and then his arm. Smarter to either give the defender a free kick or just play on in my opinion.
1-. hanball outside the area, DOGSO situation... RC
Delete2-. it seems offside. Difficult to confirm
3-. not punishable hanball. Arm trying to keep the balance of the body after a push in the top of the back of the opponent. As Victor said, it would be smarter to give denfensive foul.
Wasn’t it Çakir that handeld Barcelona - Chelsea a couple of years ago and gave Terry a red card for almost nothing. Just curious, i think that Çakir is an excellent choice fir the game tonight.
ReplyDeleteClear VC, and a really convincing performance by the Turkish, 8,6/7 area IMO.
DeleteLet's hope that over these two games, we don't get "Tom Henning Ovrebo" part 2 in either. Best of luck to the Referee Crews.
ReplyDeleteCuneyt Cakir in splendid yellow tonight 🤓
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely correct RC for Besiktas for DOGSO. Well done by Hategan!
ReplyDeleteMinute 16.
DeleteHategan with a correct RC for DOGSO outside the box (genuine but late attempt to play the ball).
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody have the video of Vida's RC?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5i93DtKFYw
DeleteBoy oh boy!! That's a clear RC... Hategan makes the correct call.,.
Delete30' : First YC by Cakir in London... Nailed on YC for SPA... Cakir at it very quickly...
ReplyDeleteI diapprove the 1-1 goal by Barcelona. Suarez makes a huge protest against the AR/AAR and Cakir lets play continue and a few seconds later they score. Should have been called.
ReplyDeleteHad he disallowed it there would be maasive controversies and discussions that's for sure... And before a World Cup a referee might want to avoid becoming a talking point really...
DeleteThe play on is ok in such a match, but then the yellow card is non sense
DeleteDoesn’t matter Soham. What is a referee for? There is no advantge there. There wouldn’t hace been any contriversie at all if he called it when chelsea had the ball during the protest. The controversie is that Cakir allowed a goal that shouldn’t be allowed.
DeleteWell you do have a point friend... Cakir should've stopped the game there!!
DeleteMistake IMO by Cakir. He gave a YC to rudiger and it should be a RC for SFP.
ReplyDeleteYC correct decision. Close to RC
DeleteJust before Messi’s goal, there seems to be a contact by Rudiger on Suarez but it was outside the area. Many protests by Suarez, Çakır booked him after the goal scored but the game should have been stopped before, otherwise no yellow card should have been issued.
ReplyDeleteAround 80’ minute a very hard foul by Rudiger. I think that a RC may have been possible.
IT should be red, he hits The Barcelona player with his studs
DeleteYes clear protest by Suarez. Obvious mistake to let play continue. Should be a yellow and indirect not a goal.
DeleteThe game has become hard. Minute 89: awful foul by Busquets, he goes straight on the knee of a Blue, without any chance to get the ball. More RC than YC for me. What do you think?
ReplyDeleteThis is a 8.2/8.3 by Cakir... What do everyone reckon??
ReplyDeleteAllowing play to continue after Suárez' dissent is a mistake but not a crucial one from an assessor's point of view. It's a deduction of 0.2.
DeleteToo meticulous in some cases, missed an excellent chance to play an advantage (Conte was furious at him for that quick whistle). Inconsistency regarding aerial duels (Moses at the beginning - soft free kick, obvious Piqué's elbow missed).
As always, great body language and communication skills.
Nonetheless, not 100% impressed with today's performance in a really easy game.
So that will make the final score a 8.2?? Or 8.1??
DeleteÇakir does seem to struggle sometimes in big-name clashes which are characterised by fair play, it seems he is not adhereing to a particular tactical approach and struggles slightly to read how to whistle the match.
DeleteIs that because he comes from a so-called small association and the teams involved in his domestic league aren't really that big names?? 🤔
DeleteI partially agree. I speak generalistically, but matches in Super Lig are usually hard fought battles, both teams putting a lot on the line (it is one of my favourite leagues); at any rate matches revolving around fair play are fairly rare I would imagine. It's not that Cakir can't manage high profile players, especially since 12/13, absolutely he's one of the best at that.
DeleteBut in general Cakir is quite a meticulous referee, indeed he's changed circa MNU-RLM to alter that a little bit, and I don't think these clashes are suited to his style thaaaaat much. I just get the feeling he is struggling to find a line between staying in the background, and not being too lenient in such matches. Last night the final minutes were quite challenging, I think he could have avoided that.
Combatted clashes such as: FUL-HAM, MNC-DYK, BAR-CHE, SPN-POR, UKR-FRA, BRA-MEX, ALG-RUS, JUV-BAR, UKR-SVN, ATL-RLM, SWE-ITA: he can handle in a top, top way.
Ok now I'll say either Michael Oliver or Anthony Taylor can be comfortably appointed to the Besiktas v Bayern Munich return leg UCL R16 match!!
ReplyDeleteI don't see the point of sending Oliver to Istanbul again after BES-OLY last season. Taylor maybe would be a good name.
DeleteTaylor can also get it... Either way it's a meaningless game 😆
DeleteOvidiu Hategan with a very good performance tonight in Munich, full control and acceptance over 90 minutes. Both assistants (especially AR1) were very good as well, the first three goals were all ONSIDE. Very well done by the entire Romanian crew.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I cannot really agree. In first half one missed foul against Lewandowski (borderline to YC), in second half for me a missing penalty (free-kick whistle after a holding by Pepe, if he punishes it, what he did, then it was inside the penalty area) and finally the situation which JR already descripted. He whistled a foul before ending the match, then he did his final whistle and suddenly after the final whistle he gave a YC for the foul before (probably after intervention of his AAR). AR2 with a missed offside, furthermore quite a clear one.
DeleteSo, all in all they weren't really bad, they had indeed the full control and acceptance, furthermore a correct RC, but there were some mistakes as well why I would evaluate it only as an average performance in an easy game.
@Gitzlo
DeleteProbably you hate Hategan very much if you can rate his perfomance as average ... A correct red card for DOGSO (in the start of the game)and 3 superb and decisive on-side decisions (1st, 2nd and 5th goal)
Here's the holding that continued into the penalty area (49th minute) that was called as a DFK just outside the area.
Deletehttps://streamable.com/klnlo
@ petschovschi: I've never met Hategan so far, I only try to evaluate his performance based on his decisions and there were 3-4 wrong ones (including a missing penalty if you watch the video above). That's all.
DeleteRegarding the YC after the final whistle, I've to admit the foul was not BEFORE the final whistle as I've thought before, so acceptable handling.
The holding starts outside the box but it ends at least exactly on the line, if not a few inside, so penalty should have been whistled there.
DeleteHategan gave a YC against Besiktas for a foul commited before ending the match after the end. Should be a mistake.
ReplyDeleteI watched now the situation involving Luis Suárez before Barça's goal. According to LotG, that is a technical mistake. You can't delay the booking of a player when play is in progress for other reasons if not advantage. Of course, in this case advantage was not possible because Barça was playing the ball and then they even scored. If Çakır wanted to issue that card, he had to stop the game and then whistle an indirect free kick in favor of Chelsea, immediately after the situation, No matter where the ball was.
ReplyDeleteActing in this way, and booking the player afterwards (maybe following an input by AAR2 who was "involved"), was a poor show and even a technical mistake. Because in fact referee allowed to continue the play when he had to stop it. Chelsea can definitely question on this choice.
Having said that, I fully agree with referee and AAR2 about the assessment of the situation: contact was not enough to whistle a foul in favor of Suárez.
Theoretically, an advantage could've been played because Chelsea was in possession of the ball. However, there wasn't any gesture indicating the advantage is played and it would be really strange to see the advantage played so close to the penalty area of 'suffered' team.
DeleteLet's suppose it is assessed as a technical mistake by the observer. What are the consequences?
DeleteI highly doubt it will be considered in that way, but could happen. Here in Spain a technical mistake has a high probability of suspension. Two weeks ago, David Medié Jiménez confused the identity of a player who made a foul inside the penalty area and was, according to the media, suspended for a month. So, what are the consequences in UEFA?
In UEFA? None.
DeleteInstead he'll be rewarded with another match. He's one of UEFA's "favorites", regardless of the mounting evidence that his best days are behind him.
@Chefren that’s exactly what I meant. Fully agree with your words.
DeleteWatching the game live, I didn't think anything was wrong with the situation until I read the comments here.
ReplyDeleteIs there a video of the YC actually being shown? Because from the video of the goal it doesn't look like the referee was going to give a YC at all: https://streamable.com/bqm13
Assuming it was for dissent - perhaps something else happened on the way back to the restart?
According to bet 365 the goal was at minute 75 and the yellow at minute 76. But it was not shown live. Only a few minutes later on replay of Cakir showing the card.
ReplyDeleteIf the YC was issued for other reasons, or maybe other complaints by Suárez after the goal, Çakır decision would be OK.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, the only thing that the Turkish can say to explain it is that: "I gave advantage to Chelsea".
This could be the reason of Suárez' booking. In such case, we should apologise Mr. Çakır for hasty accusation.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/nho6q
I don't understand what he did...
DeleteHe pointed at the AAR after scoring the goal.
DeleteSo, very stupid behavior, and fully correct decision by Çakır. We can be sure this was the reason of the card... in that case, we must apologize for having supposed wrong things.
DeleteLet me say, that his previous reaction on the play-on call deserved a caution more than that. However, in case he was booked for the latter, we have not a clear technical mistake, just a mismanagement of the first dissent. -0,1 or nothing.
DeleteBut we can't be sure about anything... Only Cakir and the observer what exactly happened!!
Deletehttps://streamable.com/pz9kh
ReplyDeleteVery interesting incident from Hategan's game.
Müller tries to disturb the wall before the execution of a free kick by making some weird gestures. Of course, unsporting behavior without any doubt. Hategan noticed that and he invited the player from Bayen to go away. But... was that correct? In my opinion Hategan was "only" allowed to warn the player and even to book him for his stupid action, but he was not allowed to invite him to go away. Indeed, Müller was entitled to stay there, the irregular thing was only his behavior. In any case, a very interesting and difficult situation to manage, one must praise the referee for his intervention.
Probably you didn't hear (all that) Graziano Cesari said last night at Mediaset. A player (in this case Muller) is not allowed to stay in that position. He said that even players of the team which has the free kick must respect the 9,15 m distance. No one from the studio (G. Galli, A. Di Livio, S. Sabatini etc) was aware of that.
DeleteHe was indeed wrong.
DeleteThe 9,15 distance is valid only for opponents.
A teammate can stay where he wants.
Would you find logical to find something irregular because a player is close to a teammate who is executing a free kick?
From LotG:
Until the ball is in play *all opponents* must remain:
• at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the ball, unless they are on their own goal line
between the goalposts
• outside the penalty area for free kicks inside the opponents’ penalty area