Saturday, 23 June 2018

2018 FIFA World Cup Match 28: South Korea - Mexico (discussion)

Let's discuss here the performance of  Milorad Mažić  in South Korea - Mexico. Good luck to the officiating team! 
Match #28
Rostov-on-Don, 23 June 2018 17:00 CET
South Korea - Mexico
Referee: Milorad Mažić (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Milovan Ristić (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Dalibor Đurđević (SRB)
Fourth Official: John Pitti (PAN)
Fifth Official: Gabriel Victoria (PAN)
VAR: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
AVAR1: Artur Soares Dias (POR)
AVAR 2: Carlos Astroza (CHI)
AVAR 3: Tiago Bruno Lopes Martins (POR)

154 comments:

  1. What a beautiful hymn singing by Mexico players and supporters.
    Goodluck to team Mažić.

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  2. Godd luck to Mažić and his crew.

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  3. Mažić with 2 strict warnings for Koreans in first 3 minutes.

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    1. Reasonable,they made plenty fouls in their first game so looks like he is very alert abou that aspect..

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  4. USA FOX commentator: "Miloraf Mazic after had a questionable performance at the European Champions League final. A couple of calls are still being discussed." What game is he talking about?

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    1. Almost the same comment in Germany at DAS ERSTE ...

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    2. Maybe he watched CL final in some episode of The Simpsons or South Park?

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    3. Niko, that are more than likely talking about the incidents that involved Sergio Ramos.

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    4. He missed a RC for the Ramos vs. Karius situation. And then of course the Salah situation was also discussed a lot. Despite being a correct decision.

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    5. The situation involving Salah became very discussed although referee had not faults there. You know how it works... the other one should be the possible violent conduct to Karius. That's enough for commentators and fans to make a big deal.

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    6. That wasnt even RC, what are you talking about Bira?

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    7. Probably about the thing with Salah. But that's not the question about Mažić, but about Ramos.
      I believe that commentators at Das Erste praize Brych for tonight.

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    8. @Jovan: Elbow hit from Ramos against Karius. Difficult to see but still missed. Karius was later diagnosed with a concussion. So a match deciding mistake which was discussed a lot. At least in Germany.

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    9. Not even for RC again. He could tell he couldnt continue. So please get away from Mazic.

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  5. Koreans are playing so dirty. 5 fouls in 8 minutes...

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  6. Mazic with 2 great chances of setting a tone with the 1st yellow card but decides to not give it.

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  7. They still complain about Ramos against Karius (ellbow) and against Salah. For me Mazic's performance there was absolutely ok!

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  8. There will be a 'team' yellow card soon. Next one to foul, Mazic spotted the rotation policy

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  9. I think it is a matter of minute before Mazic shows YC to Koreans.Plenty of fouls,he needs to calm them down.

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  10. 13': Korean player went for the ball, trying to shot on goal, but he hit the opponent in a very reckless manner. YC was possible there. The intent of the player was absolutely genuine but it resulted in a very blatant foul.

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    1. I saw this action and I didn’t see any intention of committing a fault. the defender comes out of a desperate way and the contact that results can certainly hurt but not at all voluntary. besides nobody claims ... it's my opinion

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  11. OT:
    No assignments published yet by FIFA for Monday's matches?

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    1. I guess they are late in releasing appointments because from Monday we start with very crucial and decisive games... 4 matches every day and a big importance. Choices wille be surely done more carefully...

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  12. No YC yet necessary. His 2 warnings- the lastone very strict - should be enough. But when Kim & Co. continue that style he must pull the cards out.

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  13. 8 fouls in 16 minutes by Korea.If that trend continues,we could see 30 + fouls from them.
    In 1st game,they had 23 ,so they were not far off that number.

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  14. Classic Mazic with a very lenient approach, but I expect soon the first YC, too many fouls from Korean side now.

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  15. At least he is consistent in not issuing cards.

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    1. OT :
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    2. Wonderful. We have readers from everywhere. :)

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    3. @anonymous: Welcome. We love Cyprus.

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    4. Να η πατρίδα, (Ελλάδα)

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  16. Now correct penalty given.

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  17. Correct PK. Why arm so high?

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  18. Correct penalty now.hand in unnatural position.

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  19. Absolutely clear PK. Very quick decision. Nobody complains.

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  20. What quick whistle by Mažić!
    Correctly awarded pk.

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  21. As always: Mazic's advantage-handling is absolutely perfect - for any videolibrary for young refs the perfect learning-material.

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  22. exellent delayed whistle prior to a foul by Mexico.

    btw: Did a korean player put Mazic`s Freekick-spray out of his belt? :D

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    1. It looked like he did. Mazic seemed to be grabbing for it on his waist. Then the Korean player handed it to him.

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    2. It looked like his belt clip didn't want to let go the spray.

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  23. 8 fouls in the first quarter by Korea. After that they have listened to Mr Mazic’s verbal warnings, only 2 fouls in the last 25 minutes.

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    1. This is what I call authority and refereeing tactic.

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    2. That's show how he is fully respected by players. Big authority.

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    3. Sorry, I disagree. SKO came out playing hard and making numerous very physical challenges/fouls against the Mexicans, including multiple "hard" fouls against the Mexican's best player. All in a short time window. Any of those hard fouls could have resulted in serious injury to Mexico players. All Ref did was talk to SKO and he was lucky to escape without an issue. The fact that Mexico escaped without injury and SKO without YC during this time doesnt negate the fact that the game needed an early YC against SKO. This was evident late in the game when SKO was desperate and frustrated and began again to foul hard, but with no sko fearing a second yellow. Again, REf "survived" but had any Mexican starter been injured from any such hard tackle resulting in his loss from playing in group of 16 this discussion board would be very different regarding Ref's card management (or lack thereof).

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  24. Mažić succeeded to keep his cards in the pocket in 1st half. He had few opportunities to give one tactically, but neither foul was mandatory for YC. But he managed to have absolutely full control of the match and to calm down the atmosphere. The last foul could be YC though.

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  25. The foul in 45+2 - three grabs including jersey holding - was the only one I would have said: YC. Otherwise very solid performance, his warnings worked. Correct pk.

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    1. Absolutely not YC.
      You succeed with no card tactic for 45 minutes, number of fouls decreased, and then you give YC in 45+2'?
      Never

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    2. If the foul is YC-worthy, the minute doesn't matter.

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    3. I'm speaking about spirit of the game and tactics not about LoTG

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    4. I'm sure he'll survive without that YC :)

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    5. That's why I said, I personally would prefer YC and not that it is a mistake.

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  26. Last foul before half time was a clear YC, if you deliberately make such choice, you go against LotG. Also, let me add, but of course nothing against Mazic, what is the sense of that if in second half then cards are shown for even minor infringment? You can't manage an entire game without cards, being sure that this will work. Always the same speech.

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    1. We saw several holdings like this one in previous games, and in neither one YC was given. Someone wrote here that only if it is SPA, it should be YC - that's FIFA guidelines. I don't like it.
      In UEFA competitions this is clear YC.

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    2. Surely better management than dr Brych last night who gave YC on first fouls, no warnings at all.

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    3. It's never late to issue a card. This match is different from Irmatovs, and on this match ref is fully respected. That facts allow to ref to be a little lenient.

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    4. You cannot compare this game to the last night game... Brych was excellent in the first half and an his approach also worked as the second half was less unfair.

      Mazic had a chance to handle the game with verbal warnings, though he missed YC for blatant holding. The game reminds me a little bit for Skomina's performance. Excellent player management, absoutely spot on penalty and we must underline his great preparation for the game.

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  27. OT :

    @DrMr I left one more question for you in the Kuipers thread?? Should I forward it to your Twitter?

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    1. But I can't find you on Twitter :D Can you please send me a message so that I can identify you? :)

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    2. I can't send you message, don't know why

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  28. You can't compare this match with ARG-CRO.

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  29. Too much leniency.How we dont have one booking I have no idea.

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  30. Hallelujah,first YC 58 min.

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  31. I dont think he has been lenient. Game management has been excellent. First yellow card to a persistent offender

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  32. Roldán for "dead" match: KSA-EGY

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  33. That's the signal that WC for Roldan will end after Saudi Arabia - Egypt.

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    1. And also clear what Committee thought about his 1st performance!

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  34. Finally the first card by Mazic. But if you ask me, Mexican players are entitled to be quite disappointed. He allowed too much to Korean side. Sorry, I didn't like this choice by the Serbian.

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    1. In a more challenging match this won't work... Mazic is lucky that this match is easy!

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    2. He is not lucky. He prepared this way. He would prepare different in more harder match.

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    3. Soham, you use word 'easy' too easy, again :)

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    4. Usage of it partially means the ref made it easy too :D Of course Mazic won't carry on with this plan in a different game! :)

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    5. I won't use the word easy. Even though it was. I'll instead use the word "lucky". Lucky in the aspect that Mexico at no point reacted or retaliated to Korea's constant fouling and dirty tactics.

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  35. Great onside from AR1 in 60'.

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  36. Now also correct booking in 64'min.

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  37. 62' good second YC for step on the foot.

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  39. Irregular 2:0. Clear foul before. Crucial mistake. I'm really sorry.

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    1. If crucial mistake, why VAR don't intervene?
      I'm confused

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    2. I've the same question!

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    3. If it is a foul, it can't be crucial mistake.
      Ball played first.

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    4. No. Ball not played first. That was a mandatory free kick for SKO and directly resulted in the goal. VAR had to intervene. Big mystery why he did not. Crucial mistake because goal irregular.

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    5. No reactions from Korea's players who were there...

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    6. Reactions of Korea players is immaterial... We need to investigate the situation only based on sequence of events that happened there... Is there any video available of the events?

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    7. Thus the reason why I am not sold on VAR. A few matches ago people made it seem as if VAR had overcome it's early struggles based on a couple of correct interventions. But now we go back to VAR not stepping in when they possibly should have.

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    8. If it was foul, it occured 80 meters from the goal. The goal wasn't scored even indirectly from missed foul. Can not be considered as crucial mistake.

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    9. Would world really want goal disallowed for a foul (right in front of referee) 75 yards from goal? Would make sense to referees, but not world.

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  40. Now dangerous foul from KOR #10 ,YC given.

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  41. I'm sensing that the Koreans are possibly emboldened to continue to foul because of Mazic's overly lenient and permissable approach in the first 45 minutes.

    The Mexican coach is forced to substitute and protect Hirving Lozano's physical well being. As Mazic IMO did very little to protect a skilled player.

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  42. The very overrated Milorad Mazic has been awful today. Clear foul missed before Chicharito’s goal and terrible card administration. Should not get an elimination round game.

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    1. Please tell me that you are not serious.

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    2. Please tell me that you are not serious.

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    3. Now makes sense why you called "unknown"

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    4. Come on. He did one big mistake as Brych yesterday. No reason to question the high level of them both!

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    5. Over the top comments... Surely you don't like Mazic isn't it?? @Unknown

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    6. Bozidar, let me guess, you’re Serbian I presume? Can you not admit he made a game altering mistake when he was literally 5 feet away? How can he be classed as elite? Pitana, Kuipers and Rocchi are clearly a notch above the rest!

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    7. People like Mazic & Cakir have this mystical aura around them despite average officiating in several games.

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    8. Well, Kuipers gave PK yesterday for nothing! It is much more bigger mistake than non whistled foul in the middle on the pitch! Rocchi had bad match here either.

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    9. I don’t understand all the Mazic love. Be objective. His man management has always been poor too.

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    10. Everyone acknowledged here Kuipers penalty was too soft but not 100% wrong... Of course an excellent VAR review and Kuipers went for the more sensible choice on watching replays from other angles!

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  43. Unlike Brych yesterday whose use of his cards led to a cleaner better played match. Today's Mazic's late use of cards has done little to change the Korean tactic.

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    1. But he will be much less criticized compared to Brych's performance yesterday.
      Brych's one mistake was enough to change whole petspective on how he handled match.

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    2. Brych's discipline management did everything to Serbians. 3yc's in last 15mins of 1st half and spoken words in tunnel to Matić that he will send him off. And no cards and warnings to SWIss. That tell to all Serbian players a lot.

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    3. Most of the korean fouls were little ones, no comparison to the brutal play esp. of Serbian players yesterday. The necessary YCs were given by Mazic except 1 against Ki, whom he constantly warned instead of showing Yellow.

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    4. Can you provide me the audio of the supposed conversation Brych had with Matic? If you can, then I'll believe you. Until then it's hearsay and not worth the blogs time.

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    5. All 3 of Serbian cards at the end of 1st half yesterday were deserved.
      Now,I cant remember one Swiss foul like that in a that match.

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    6. Andrasch, foul from Matic was not even close to YC.

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    7. @ Bozidar: There are NO neutral witnesses of that sentence. Only Serbs heard that. None of the officials around. Whom should we trust more? It is so typical and sad. Some nations (Italy!) can't accept a defeat and build up excusing tales ...always the bad ref and some mafia against the poor victims. Same time in the net there were packed out hatepages against Brych yesterday where some primitive idiots talked about killing Brych and threatened him and his family. Come on and use your energy to stop those guys instead of telling unproved nonsense!

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    8. @ Teo: For me crystalclear YC.
      Please accept my different opinion. It won't change.

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    9. 1st and 2nd YC yesterday were correct. 3rd card was soft since there was no contact just intention . And that is a fact now when my head is clear.

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    10. You should re-watch it then. For 5 dangerous ankle breaking stemps Irmatov didn't give a single card, and Matic got it for really nothing.

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    11. As I said yesterday many times, Brych was very good.(with 1 crucial mistake) . Serbs don't blame him. Everybody saw that SER team was not good enough in second half.
      On internet there are many jokes,pictures,videos... witch make
      fun of Brych. From common users all around world to media like BBC. Frank Lampard and Rio Ferdinand said in BBC studio that referee commited armed robbery.
      I disagree with such things.
      My mark will be 7.9(8.3)
      But how can anyone defend choice to give a final match to ref with such error(especially in a situation that you can consult VAR)?
      Cheers...

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    12. I viewed this stream on BBC and they stated the challenge was like a robbery.

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  44. Mexicans should be happy if they come out of this match with no injuries,Koreans are conitinuing with their bad fouls.

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  45. Mazic IMO is beyond fortunate that the Mexican players have not responded or retalitere to Korea's constant fouling.

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  46. I didn't like Mazic today. He allowed too much to Korean players.
    At a certain time, a so experienced referee should read the game.
    The deliberate choice of keeping cards can't work forever.
    Of course we will see him again, but I hope he will present himself differently.

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  47. Ki from SKO was the one begging for YC by making 6 "little tactical" fouls in a row. After 2nd and 4th foul a warning. But then nothing. That I really do not understand...Ki with 2 more little fouls and could feel safe. That was really not acceptable.

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  48. Few card missed in the second half spoil generally good performance a bit.
    I must mention something:
    AR1 Ristić really done good job today.
    He was involved in few YC suggestions plus great onside decision in 60'.
    Đurđević also with standardly good performance and flag technique very enjoyable for watching.

    Safe pair of assistants, you can always rely on them.

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  49. Was very unfair to South Korea, no wonder if we think he is one of the Serbian Jackals.

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  50. We can talk about Mazic criteria (prevention) today. For me, better solution for the game would be early YC . Missed foul before second goal. That's not crucial mistake. Foul was 70-80m from Korea's goal. Full authority.
    As always, assistents on expected level. Ristic had very good decision (onside) in 60. min. He is sniper. 😀

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