Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) - AS Monaco FC (FRA)
Referee: Mattias Gestranius (FIN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan-Peter Aravirta (FIN)
Assistant Referee 2: Mikko Alakare (FIN)
Fourth Official: Jukka Honkanen (FIN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Antti Munukka (FIN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Dennis Antamo (FIN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jaap Uilenberg (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Iveta Bankova (BUL)
Group D
28 November 2018, 18:55 CET - Moscow (RZhD Arena)
FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) - Galatasaray (TUR)
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Teodoro Sobrino Magán (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Xavier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO)
UEFA Delegate: Jevgeņijs Miļevskis (LVA)
28 November 2018, 18:55 CET - Moscow (RZhD Arena)
FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) - Galatasaray (TUR)
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Teodoro Sobrino Magán (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Xavier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO)
UEFA Delegate: Jevgeņijs Miļevskis (LVA)
Group A
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Dortmund (Signal-Iduna-Park)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - Club Brugge (BEL)
Referee: Gediminas Mažeika (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vytautas Šimkus (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Vytenis Kazlauskas (LTU)
Fourth Official: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Manfredas Lukjančukas (LTU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Luciano Luci (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Ivan Lekov (BUL)
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Dortmund (Signal-Iduna-Park)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - Club Brugge (BEL)
Referee: Gediminas Mažeika (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vytautas Šimkus (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Vytenis Kazlauskas (LTU)
Fourth Official: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Manfredas Lukjančukas (LTU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Luciano Luci (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Ivan Lekov (BUL)
Group B
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Eindhoven (Philips Stadion)
PSV Eindhoven (NED) - FC Barcelona (ESP)
Referee: Pavel Královec (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivo Nádvorník (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Kamil Hájek (CZE)
Fourth Official: Jakub Hrabovský (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Miroslav Zelinka (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Karel Hrubeš (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Domenico Messina (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Rotem Kamer (ISR)
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Eindhoven (Philips Stadion)
PSV Eindhoven (NED) - FC Barcelona (ESP)
Referee: Pavel Královec (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivo Nádvorník (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Kamil Hájek (CZE)
Fourth Official: Jakub Hrabovský (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Miroslav Zelinka (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Karel Hrubeš (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Domenico Messina (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Rotem Kamer (ISR)
Group B
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - London (Wembley Stadium)
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) - FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarık Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Þór Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Jim Stjerne Hansen (DEN)
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - London (Wembley Stadium)
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) - FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarık Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Þór Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Jim Stjerne Hansen (DEN)
Group C
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - Liverpool FC (ENG)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Radosław Siejka (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Božinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - Liverpool FC (ENG)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Radosław Siejka (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Božinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)
Group C
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Naples (Stadio San Paolo)
SSC Napoli (ITA) - FK Crvena zvezda (SRB)
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Fourth Official: Íñigo Prieto López de Ceraín (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Danijel Jošt (SVN)
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Naples (Stadio San Paolo)
SSC Napoli (ITA) - FK Crvena zvezda (SRB)
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Fourth Official: Íñigo Prieto López de Ceraín (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Danijel Jošt (SVN)
Group D
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragão)
FC Porto (POR) - FC Schalke 04 (GER)
Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Eugen Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Adrian Ștefan Ghinguleac (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Radu Marian Petrescu (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Constantin Colțescu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Leslie Irvine (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Joël Wolff (LUX)
28 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragão)
FC Porto (POR) - FC Schalke 04 (GER)
Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Eugen Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Adrian Ștefan Ghinguleac (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Radu Marian Petrescu (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Constantin Colțescu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Leslie Irvine (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Joël Wolff (LUX)
CL debut for Mattias Gestranius. Totally deserved, IMO.
ReplyDeleteSensible appointment for Hategan. Both teams are through and they only care about the 1st place of the Group.
Kralovec with a CL match but definitely a match that could go to a 1st group referee. Also Lahoz with a low-profile match.
Good appointments for Marciniak and Cakir.
-Not a decisive match at all, but anyway, committee member for Gestranius. Also an interesting match for Mazeika. Looks like Rosetti definitely has lots of candidates considered for promotion to Elite.
ReplyDelete-Unexpectedly, big game for Gil Manzano, he recovered from his poor performance in Gelsenkirchen with a pair of good performances in UEL.
-Hategan with another 1st v 2nd match. I hope he continues his brilliant path of this season.
-Çakır and Marciniak with maybe the biggest games.
-IMO, somehow disappointing appointment for Mateu Lahoz. Lokomotiv-Galatasaray could have been easily a match for First candidate.
That's not only about Gestranius, but I find it a bit strange, that a referee, who was not considered for EL KO stage at the beginning of the year (where several 1st group referees were appointed) suddenly is ready for CL. Wrong order of milestones IMO.
ReplyDeleteA bit surprising that UEFA considers.
I agreee, that Mateu did not get such a good match - was anything weong in his previous performances?
The rest was more or less expectable, if it is not a problem to have two Spaniards in a row for Belgrade and 4 matches in a row for Hategan.
Everything has changed with Rosetti. This is the only reason, with Collina this wouldn't have happened. A referee had to officiate at least a game in EL KO stage, before getting CL group stage. Now the need of having new options is forcing committee to accelerate the process.
DeleteIt is in any case very particular that Gestranius will get his first CL game while Gözübüyük, after having been tested for years, has still to wait. Maybe the same for Lechner (AUT).
For sure if one considers everything, at a certain point finds many inconsistencies. But for sure the main reason is that everything has changed.
Is Gestranius the first Finnish referee in CL? If not, who was the last?
ReplyDeleteNo, first one was Ilkka Koho, who handled 2 group stage matches 1994 and 95.
DeleteOT
ReplyDeleteMilorad Mažić said that his team is feeling great and that they could finish career after EURO 2020.
Mazic is already 45 years old. After two World Cups (2014, 2018), EURO 2016, a final in Confederations Cup (2017), a Champions League final (2018) I think it's time for Mazic to retire. It's a matter of common sense, there are also many referees who are waiting to whistle big games. Same discurs is valid for Kuipers (and even Rocchi)
DeleteÇakır with another decisive game. One can't describe how much big is the trust by committee. Once I said that he is among the best FIFA referees ever, the appointments are confirming that. Maybe even a step ahead than the other big names at moment in Elite Category.
ReplyDeleteMarciniak has the biggest game in this Matchday. No problem that he had been appointed for the other two teams in the same group, no problems as well for assigning a referee for a team (Crvena Zvezda) from the same nationality of the previous one.
These are quite forced choices and for sure a consequence of a limited set of options for big games.
Deserved game in CL for Mažeika after his recent performances while Královec gets a game that could have been handled by a Category 1. However, still a better situation than Karasev and I don't think that the Czech is in danger for demotion. In any case, I always expected more and one could say he reached his top.
Hațegan with his fourth game, considering also that he had replaced Turpin in Turin. The French could get a fourth appointment on MD6 as well, in case of good performance in Roma - Real Madrid.
Mateu Lahoz with a very low profile game, but for sure options are limited also in this case and the focus about Spanish referees now seems to be more on other names.
A great article written by 2014 World Cup and former A-League referee Ben Williams. The Australian talks about everything from VAR, to refereeing in Asia and at the world cup as well as the pressures on referees from the media and from Social media.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.playersvoice.com.au/ben-williams-problem-with-chasing-perfection/
for me, this time is a low profile game for Hategan and far for the spotlights. I think he will be rest this stage and he could handle an important game in MD6. and an interesting observer for him after what happened last year in WC play-off.
ReplyDeleteHategan can't have only important games (even Cakir whistled TSKA- Roma). Keep in mind that his mother died last monday, funerals were less than a week ago. A low profile game is best option in this moment for him (maybe it would have been even better to wait a liitle bit and give him a low-profile game game in MD6). Anyway, imho, in this moment Hategan is a valid option for a semifinal in CL (of course, after a good performance in the KO-stage)
DeleteWell, I partly disagree with some readings of Mateu Lahoz's appointment. It is indeed a low-profile match, with not much in play (only Galatasaray can still qualify, and the difference of 4 points makes it difficult for Lokomotive to qualify to UEL even if they win on Wednesday). However, there were not many other options for him. Only AEK-Ajax, Lyon-City, Porto-Schalke, Hoffenheim-Shaktar and the match he has were possible, if I'm not wrong. Of those, Lyon-City and Porto-Schalke were better possible appointments. City with Guardiola, after last season, wouldn't have been a sensible idea. The other were more or less similar to the one he has, which I think is slightly better for off-field factors (Russia-Turkey). First leg was handled by Rocchi.
ReplyDeleteHowever, he is still (and will likely be) the only Spanish referee with 3 UCL group stage matches, so I don't really think he has lost Spain's number 1 position yet. But of course, yes, he could have had a Porto-Schalke, which would have been better.
Porto-Schalke might have been prevented by Gil Manzano's mistakes in the first leg.
DeleteBut one could have appointed him on MD6 on a decisive match, e.g. in groups D or F or potentially in a group, where a Spanish team has already secured its position.
For Lokomotive-Galatasaray, Undiano might have been a sensible alternative.
Mark Clattenburg was appointed for the 1st leg of China League Cup with 2 penalties whistled. He refused to whistle the third one and I think that's a correct decision with clear explanation. You can also see a lot of gestures as he used to behave on the pitch. Any comments?
ReplyDeleteHe is the probably the only one till now whistled three penalties at Old Trafford against Manchester United.
DeleteWould be interested in any videos if you have them? Always like seeing Clatts body language and communication techniques.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6L4wntdsmg
DeleteI cry if I think Mark now works in modest championships .........Why? was an incredible, unacceptable loss . How much miss me his performances, his body language and his personality. Mark, you were the biggest of all !!!!!!
DeleteFull expected level 1H from Mattias Gestranius.
ReplyDeleteA very easy game so far. Mattias looks alert and firm. He could have issued a yellow card for SPA in 31' but decided to manage it, perhaps due to result AND character of the game. Acceptable, imo.
DeleteVery easy first half for Gestranius. Only a single YC issued, correctly IMO.
ReplyDeleteFor me, the games for MD6 in group A and D should be handled by the referees from first class. Only in B & C we could have Elite refs. So for Liverpool - Napoli i go with Skomina.
ReplyDeleteMissed RC for Savic? Violent conduct for me. Elbow clearly used as a weapon, even after Gestranius warned him just before.
ReplyDeleteOops, funny slip from Gestranius while he was about to issue a correct YC for SPA (good delayed whistle).
ReplyDelete:D
76' correctly disallowed goal by AR1 in Moscow, so far for what I watched no problems at all for Mateu. Maybe only some borderline offside calls in first half...
ReplyDeleteCorrect disallowed goal for Lokomotiv by Pau Cebrián Devís.
ReplyDeleteVery incorrect handball penalty for Monaco. And because of that a second yellow card. Clearly not deliberate. The defender even tried to avoid the ball.
ReplyDeleteAgree
DeleteWell, Savic anyway got send off...
ReplyDeletePK for handball (IMO, supportable) + 2nd YC.
*sent off.
DeleteIMO, wrong penalty to Monaco for handball. Savic did his best to avoid the contact with the ball.
ReplyDeleteHowever, once whistled correct 2nd YC as it was a shit on goal
Wrong PK for Monaco and RC for Savic.
ReplyDeleteMany cards in the last minutes of Gestranius game...
ReplyDeleteWrong offside call by Marciniak‘s team in 7‘. Very likely would this have been a goal...Unluck start for the Polish in Paris
ReplyDeleteAnd now clear foul missed on Di Maria. Weird star by polish refs...
ReplyDeleteStart *
DeleteWhen Mbappé is down on the pitch near goalkeeper, you can let play a goal kick Mister Marciniak ? Not in my rules book !
ReplyDelete25’ : SFP by Verratti. RC missed by Marciniak....
ReplyDeleteNot a clear mistake but I would have gone red as well. Studs up, leg raised and strechted
Deletehttps://streamable.com/l0fxt
DeleteWatching it live, I went straight away, "Shit, I think thats red" And the replays only confirm that for me. I think you will find that they say this is a red in the next UEFA RAP.
For me refereeing isn't just about getting the big decisions right, it's about making the big decisions when they will affect the outcome of a game. Or in the case of this game, the qualification to the next round.
For me this is a clear mistake, clear SFP that ticks all the boxes. Contact is very, very high and endangers safety of the opponent.
DeleteWrong offside call from Listkiewicz, missed stamp leading to a quick counter-attack, underpunished SFP. Poor first 30 minutes from Polish crew...
ReplyDeletePenalty for Liverpool correct IMO. But Marciniak showed corner kick first and then after advise by his colleagues (probably AAR) changed his opinion
ReplyDeletePK for Liverpool...very delayed!
ReplyDeleteAnd also, I'm not sure...
Marciniak...lack of concentration..he is not up to the level of this derby. Going to be a tough second half...
ReplyDeleteGil Manzano with an expected level first half, nothing to report.
ReplyDeleteA correct YC a few seconds before the final whistle. Very easy game.
Unfortunately, after slo-mo replays, it was a simulation from Liverpool player. Marciniak was right. A pity that when he accepts an advice, it's a bad advice. Sorry to say, but I can't see the room for further good games for Polish crew this season... Who knows, maybe only UEL...
ReplyDeleteIf there was VAR, I think it wouldn't have recommended Marciniak to make and OFR.
DeleteSorry, from the replays definite contact and definite penalty. To not give a penalty would have been criminal. Never Simulation in a million years
Deletehttps://streamja.com/ep9J
DeleteVlad is right, hard to detect but it is a 100% simulation.
For me also a clear penalty. The fact that Marciniak gave a corner kick first shows that he saw a touch of the ball by Di Maria. So a brave but good advice by his assistant
DeleteI really find it funny that some say "100% simulation" and others say "clear penalty" yet everyone thinks VAR would solve this.
DeleteI see what others do on slo-mo replay, which is that Mane slightly starts to go toward ground a millisecond before there's actually contact. Is Mane embellishing and/or anticipating the contact? Well, yes.
But you have to watch the play at full speed, too (which is preferred in the VAR protocols). Di Maria dives in with little control and misses the ball completely. He's also thrown himself into the path of Mane. Mane braced for contact and started to go down early, yes. But he was going to get cleaned out if he didn't.
There is absolutely no WAY that a well-trained VAR would send this down as clearly wrong. None. This is not the type of decision that VAR is for.
Similarly, if Marciniak did NOT call it, the fact that Mane goes down early is probably enough to ensure a VAR would not send it down either.
I personally think penalty is the preferred call (at the very least, Di Maria attempted to trip his opponent and never made a fair tackle) but there's nothing that is clear and obvious about this decision.
I agree with your thought but Di Maria didn’t attempt to trip his opponent. He attempted to get the ball. If you deem this as an attempt to trip an opponent then it’s a penalty no matter if he touches him or not.
DeleteSure. But I guess my point is that if Mane keeps making his run, he would have got tripped by Di Maria anyway.
DeleteThe idea that we should start excusing poor tackles like Di Maria's just because the attacker starts to go to ground a millisecond early... seems like a bad one. That's why I think this should be a penalty.
But I fully believe that a VAR needs to accept either decision here. He's not there to re-referee the match. He is there to prevent clearly wrong decisions.
The way Di Maria slid in makes this an acceptable penalty to me. Had Di Maria came in carelessly then I think a yellow for simulation would have been correct. But yeah either way this is not a VAR case.
DeleteI agree with usaref here.
DeleteMaybe the VAR could have intervened, if Marciniak stated to him, that he saw a touch on the ball and took that as reason against the penalty. Then it's a matter of wrong perception and an OFR might be correct.
Of course, that refers to the case, that the penalty was not given. After the actual decision, an OFR would be wrong, as explained by usaref.
DeleteVery weird performance by Marciniak’s crew. Unbelievable delayed correct penalty whistled with AAR’s help after two arms signal of corner kick, Obvious RC for Verratti forgotten, Listkiewicz’s wrong flag cost probably a goal...Don’t recognize this ref tonight !
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice to have some videos about Marciniak's game, I don't find anything...
ReplyDeleteBest to check for new posts in the soccer subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/new/
Deletepenalty: https://streamja.com/ep9J
The three most important moments in PSG-Liverpool 1st half.
ReplyDelete7’ Offside decision
https://streamable.com/e6zfh
24’ YC Verratti (PSG)
https://streamable.com/f9mbb
45’ Penalty LIV
https://streamable.com/s0xrs
1. Wrong offside.
Delete2. Wrong YC, SFP for me.
3. I'd preferred play-on as Marciniak decided before AAR's advice. Mané is already falling before the contact.
*I'd have prefered. I must stop typing while doing other things.
Delete1) Difficult call but player onside, very likely after the first save by keeper, this would have been a goal by the teammate.
Delete2) SFP and I wonder why Marciniak didn't show it, he is a referee who was not problems in taking such decisions. Very strange. It was a dangerous challenge directly on the leg with excessive force.
3) Extremely poor management, I really don't understand! After having signaled twice corner kick, he changed decision, based on what? It wasn't AAR side, impossible for AAR1 to make assessments there. No credibility, sorry. In addition, for me simulation, but this was impossible to spot live. In this case, one must back referee if he whistled penalty, attacker was already falling without any contact, the touch didn't change the outcome of the action.
3. For me this is simulation.
DeleteTo be honest, with replays, even PK is doutbful. Perhaps, simulation by english player but difficult to assess as crucial mistake by definitively bad work by polish team on first half.
ReplyDeleteNow PSG goal correctly disallowed by AR1.
ReplyDeleteAgree. Very good decision. :)
Deletehttps://streamable.com/7cmww
DeleteClear SPA from Zvezda player,not even a warning from Manzano.
ReplyDeleteGil Manzano missed an incredible YC for SPA, blatant holding. No explanations...
ReplyDeleteNow arm to the face,again no YC.
DeleteWhat minute was this?
DeleteAbout 70'
DeleteClear PK missed on Neymar
ReplyDeleteMay I clearly disagree :) Van Dijk played the ball and only after that hits Neymar’s leg due to momentum.l - and only in a careless way. Correct decision in my book.
DeleteAgree with dutch ref here :)
DeleteI maintain my opinion, but no problem ;)
DeleteI think that one can’t make such challenges in the box under the pretext that they touch the ball (IMHO).
All the commentators were saying that the AAR made that Penalty call in PSG v LIV
ReplyDeleteThat would be against UEFA guidelines... Marciniak's responsibility in that zone.
DeleteI know. But unfortunately that's what it looks like.
DeleteHow can Verratti end that game?
ReplyDeleteFiery ending for Marciniak,4 bookings in 90+,lot of them were L'Pool players frustrated with Neymar.
ReplyDeleteUuaaauuu Jesus, excellent. The future.
ReplyDeleteFrom PSG-Liverpool:
ReplyDeleteVan Dijk challenge
https://streamable.com/9vz54
Neymar escaping sanction?
https://streamable.com/gfufx
For me the outrageous thing that I read on this blog is the simulation of Mane. Honestly, how many of you did play (serious) football in your lives ?
ReplyDeleteWhy is simulation ?
- there was no contact ? No way, it was contact
- Mane provoked the contact ? Yes, Mane started to fall with 0,01 seconds before the contact (possible to see only on slow-motion re-plays) but it's a normal thing when you see (or feel) an opponent coming to you with a certain (excessive sometimes) force. You try (instinctively) to protect yourself, to avoid a full contact, to reduce the damage (which the opponent will provoke to you).
It would have been a contact (and a serious foul) even if Mane wouldn't start to fall (with 0,01 seconds) before the contact. That contact is provoked only by Di Maria with his stupid and dangerous jump. On every pitch from this world, in every stadium from this world this is penalty.
I repeat, I'm shocked because of opinios of some (important) members about a simulation. In my humble opinion only someone who didn't play (serious) football in his life can pretend it's a simulation.
This was my last post on this blog. When someone says "clear penalty" and someone says "simulation" there is a problem. Someone is wrong. Badly. I prefer to retire from any discussion from now on. I wish all of you good luck in the future !
I tend to agree. Posters criticizing Marciniak a bit too much about the penalty. In real time it looked a stonewall penalty and while it does seem that Mane wanted to go over impossible to tell in real time. Di Maria got nowhere near the ball and was clearly late and made significant contact. Regardless, clear penalty imo. Even with VAR i think penalty is still given. As for SFP, yes that is a crucial mistake. Clear RC and right in front of the ref. That one cannot have any arguments.
DeleteChill out man. Football is a game of opinions.
DeleteWhat is not "chilled out" about my opinion?
DeleteI agree too. PK looks like the correct decision to me.
DeleteWas not referring to you Bgymn.
DeleteTerrible night for Marciniak anyway. I hope it won’t injure him for the rest of his season, but I’m a bit afraid for him.
ReplyDeleteCrucial games on MD6:
ReplyDeleteShakhtar Donetsk - Olympique Lyonnais
Inter - PSV
Barcelona - Tottenham
Crvena Zvezda - PSG
Liverpool - Napoli
The games in Livepool and Kharkiv are between two direct contenders.
My predictions:
Shakhtar Donetsk - Olympique Lyonnais
Mažić (SRB)
Inter - PSV
Zwayer (GER)
Barcelona - Tottenham
Soares Dias (POR)
Crvena Zvezda - PSG
Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Liverpool - Napoli
Skomina (SVN)
Looks good - only Kuipers is missing. He in Ukraine and Mazic in Barcelona would be an alternative.
DeleteAnd of course a questionmark behind Skomina because of his first CL match this season. But really hard to find an alternative under normal procedures (i.e. not appointing Cakir, Zwayer or Kuipers again in that group).
Skomina refereed semifinal Roma Liverpool last season and made several crucial mistakes, Italians were very angry then. And again decisive match between Italian and English club for him? Doubt it.
DeleteSo if not Skomina we have only Sidiropoulos for Liverpool. It would be the game of his career...
DeleteWhy do you think it is not possible to see Skomina in Ukraine? His first and only match this season was between Hoffenhaim and Manchester City at this group
DeleteWhat's the Foss about between Rangers FC. And Willie Collum
ReplyDeleteI have followed this story. Collum incorrectly sent off a Rangers player for a second caution, which Rangers appealed. The appeal was thrown out and the FA detailed Collums attempted justification, blowing a kiss at an opponent, which television proved Collum couldn’t see.
ReplyDeleteRangers have since released very aggressive statements against Collum, his reasoning and performance, suggesting he lied to defend his decision. Now the FA have charged Rangers for their statements. This story will run for some time I’m sure.
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ReplyDeleteI would like to ask you to make clear if a yellow card must be given when a player tries to stop a promissing attack via holding but the opponent can free himself and the ref can give an advantage? I talking about the yellow card PSG-LIV in the 86th min. for Storridge.
I remember we already discussed about that topic, IFAB Laws of the Game says YC when the ball is next out of play
DeleteLotG does not say that. Is sais that a YC can be given after atvantage. That ist clear.
DeleteBut it is imo really important to understand if the attempt to stop a promissing attack is a yc by LotG?
The original Text sais: "...commits a foul which interferes with or stops a promising attack"
Imo this means that the spa-foul must have come to an succesfull ending.
2 of my thoughts about this question:
1. When a player tries to block the ball from a free kick while not having the 9.15m distance and a goal is scored he will not be cautioned. So to say the yc is downgraded to "nothing"
2. If a player commits a foul for DOGSO and a advantage is given the Player gets the YC. So the RC downgradedy to a YC
--》 So for my point of view an attempt for SPA when an advantage is given must be no YC. That would be the logical way.
I don't know about the original Text but the current one is quite clear:
Delete"If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution / send off
would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution / send off MUST be
issued when the ball is next out of play, except for the denial of an obvious
goal-scoring opportunity when the player is cautioned for unsporting
behaviour."
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