Sunday, 20 January 2019

FIFA Seminars for Referees - List of Participants

FIFA is already working for World Cup 2022. On next months there will be two seminars in Doha, Qatar. Just click the link to read the names of the selected officials.

FIFA Seminars for Referees - List of Participants
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  1. Quilava20 January 2019 at 16:34

    Wow, only 3 Elite referees among the chosen ones in UEFA. Out of 12.

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    1. Chefren20 January 2019 at 17:08

      The situation is particular. You have also Makkelie and Soares Dias but called as VAR. About them, especially the Dutch, I think that they are also candidates for being main referees at WC, but given their experience behind the monitor, at moment they will work as VAR for instructing the new referees.
      Then, the "big names" who were already in Russia, with chances for Qatar 2022 are: Skomina (if he wont retire, he will be 46 in 2022), Marciniak, Turpin, Mateu Lahoz (the duel is indeed with Gil Manzano). All the rest of Elite referees should be out, for Italy Orsato will retire after EURO 2020.
      The important news about England is that FIFA seems to have made a choice between Oliver and Taylor.
      Among others, interesting to read Jovanović and Treimanis names. The first one presents himself as the new Mazić, Treimanis has for sure a very big chance coming from a so small (of course in terms of refereeing) country.
      It will be very interesting to follow this preselection.

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    2. Chiagozie20 January 2019 at 18:30

      I think FIFA preselected this referees and feel most of them if not all might be in the UEFA elite category come 2022

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    3. George20 January 2019 at 21:27

      I don't know if there is a duel between Mateu Lahoz and Gil Manzano. Qatar 2022 will happen in the 2022/2023 season for the first time, instead of the 2021/2022. Thing is, Mateu Lahoz turns 45 before July 2022, and with the current rules in Spain, he should retire after 2021/2022 season. It is somehow "unfair" because the delay of the tournament for a few months rules him out, so maybe he could get a permission to keep going until 2023, or maybe even to push back the retirement age as it was suggested a while ago.

      That is, of course, if FIFA prefers Mateu over Gil Manzano. At the moment, I think they would, but let's see if Gil Manzano improves with the years. It's still too far away to make predictions.

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    4. Chefren20 January 2019 at 22:53

      You are right about that. I forgot that WC 2022 will be played on November and December, so 2022/2023 season. So, very likely, Mateu Lahoz must be already considered as retired for that date.
      No competition with Gil Manzano...

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  2. usaref20 January 2019 at 19:00

    I told everyone that there would be a big surprise in the CONCACAF VAR list!

    Chefren is right about Makkelie and Soares Dias; they have to be there for instruction purposes.

    In addition to the obvious UEFA names, recall that Marrufo and Ramos will return from CONCACAF. This list does not include any potential returnees (except when they are called to train as VARs or instruct). Marrufo will be the American representative--not Villarreal or Elfath. This list is about giving younger referees a chance to work the U20s and U17s this year, gain experience with VARs, and either have an outside shot at 2022 or prepare for 2026.

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  3. chris bramis20 January 2019 at 20:26

    http://www.novasports.gr/web-tv/on-demand-player/video/59561/ofi-panaitolikos-3-0-hl/

    At 2.16 you can see a very interesting situation. Surely a very difficult one. First of all, was the ball outside the penalty area when the GK touched the ball? And second, was RD the right decision?

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    1. Quilava20 January 2019 at 20:43

      I think it's a mistake from AR as ball seems not to be completely outside the area. RC in case of previous correct decision is OK.

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    2. Alex F21 January 2019 at 00:06

      Look at the AR's position when the GK handles that ball on the penalty area line... he's 4-5m ahead of the play, and sidesteps backwards to get in line with the penalty area line, where he signals for an offence.

      Here's a streamable, clipping the incident down to just this offence.

      https://streamable.com/skb7y

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  4. greek ref20 January 2019 at 22:15

    Penalty from Greek Superleague match Xanthi - Atromitos

    Referee Skoulas (New FIFA)

    https://streamable.com/kajrm

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  5. Unknown20 January 2019 at 22:15

    Off topic - Situation from Ajax Amsterdam vs Heerenveen; Im lost, anyone able to explain this no penalty? I cant find any reason..

    https://streamable.com/fgisw

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    1. Chefren20 January 2019 at 22:49

      I think that Gozubuyuk didn't like to whistle a penalty for the attitude by attacker, who was clever in making that move, removing the ball and finding himself in contact with keeper who was trying to complete the save. This is the only argument for PLAY ON, but merely looking at what happened, it is a clear penalty of course. Penalty is the easy and expected decision there.

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    2. Fidje21 January 2019 at 12:49

      Gozubuyuk explained that from his point of view, both on pitch and after review on monitor, that it was a soccer duel. The ball was to far way; to easy fall of the attacker. So no penalty.

      Later that evening Dick van Egmond, Head of dutch refereeing, stated that it was clear penalty. He did that before Gozubuyuk explained tho the press and he stood by his decision and and dis agreed with van Egmond.

      After this failure media are very much critism the VAR and the level of all referees in the Netherlands. Mario van der Ende as the main Leader with Some big newspapers .

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  6. superstar011020 January 2019 at 22:20

    Goal by Suarez in 71' Barcelona vs Leganes
    How is that not foul on goakeeper?

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    1. Yk20 January 2019 at 22:33

      Unbelievable! Did he even touch the ball? What a mess VAR is in LaLiga. Every match day there's a new controversy.

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    2. superstar011020 January 2019 at 22:46

      I really can't explain VAR mistakes for situations like this.

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    3. Chefren20 January 2019 at 22:51

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mdZiZEPy1o

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    4. George20 January 2019 at 22:58

      For me, it is a foul. However, there is controversy and difference of opinions, so IMO, no VAR intervention is OK.

      However, by listening to some players and Leganés coach I am astonished. How is it possible that there are professionals who still think that touching the goalkeeper inside the goal area is always a foul? Does that happen in other countries too?

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    5. Yk20 January 2019 at 23:00

      Please, this is a clear foul; absolutely not up for debate.

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    6. Yk20 January 2019 at 23:02

      And re: fouling gks. The referees are the ones who have contributed to this culture by whistling every time the gks are touched.

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    7. Euro Soccer Ref20 January 2019 at 23:29

      https://twitter.com/fxpvideos/status/1087106057095315456

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    8. Euro Soccer Ref20 January 2019 at 23:33

      https://twitter.com/RealFloPerez/status/1087099477599625216

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  7. petschovschi20 January 2019 at 23:45

    Most probably these referees will be selected for WC U20 and WC U17.

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  8. Neil21 January 2019 at 00:59

    This weekend during the Liverpool v Crystal Palace fixture James Milner was sent off for a second bookable offence by his former PE teacher Jon Moss. In doing this he has made premier league history 😂😂

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/james-milner-claims-football-history-13884102

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    1. Chiagozie21 January 2019 at 11:57

      And note one of the best performance I have seen from Mr. Moss in a very long time

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  9. chris bramis22 January 2019 at 09:23

    The Dutch FA published the audio footage of the penalty incident between AJAX vs Heerenveen. Can someone Dutch friend translate the discussion of the VAR and Gozubuyuk?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Sb0QMKw2nZ4

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    1. DutchRedREF22 January 2019 at 10:50

      I try to translate it

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    2. DutchRedREF22 January 2019 at 11:15

      I translate the whole video:

      Referee: No No No No, play on
      VAR: Possible foul
      Referee: Just a football contact
      VAR: Play back play back, I want to see it large
      Referee: Dennis (Higler,VAR), there is contact, just a football contact. See how easy he’s is falling. Play on
      VAR: I want to see a total view. Angelo (Boonman, AVAR) what’s your opinion? The ball is now out of game. What’s your opinion Angelo?
      AVAR: Show me the replay
      VAR: Serdar, wait with continue the game!!!
      Referee: Yes Yes
      AVAR: He (Serdar) thinks it’s a football contact, but he (GK) missed the ball and touched the player. Yes, let’s do an OFR.
      VAR: Serdar, Serdar You think it is a football contact, but I think the ball is gone without touch of the goalkeeper and then he hits the player. I ask you to do an OFR.
      Referee: Where do you see doubt?
      VAR: I think you have to do an OFR
      Referee: Ok, I do an OFR
      START OFR
      VAR: You see a moment in the replay, ball is gone. Striker is not able to go to the ball
      Referee: I watch, I know. See how he comes in. Where does the goalkeeper touch the striker? What else could the goalkeeper do?
      VAR: Goalkeeper does not touch the ball
      Referee: I know, but look the football duel. Do you have other views? Behind the goal? I want to see the legs, is there a touch?
      VAR: The body is the point of contact, neither foots nor legs
      Referee: OK, he is too late
      VAR: You get the ‘’in goal cam’’.
      Referee: He’s too late. No No, this is too easy for a penalty. Let’s play on

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    3. Chefren22 January 2019 at 11:46

      Thank you for this translation, everything is clear. Maybe Gozubuyuk didn't even want to make an OFR... well, this penalty should be whistled in my opinion.

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    4. VG22 January 2019 at 11:48

      Clear penalty. There is nothing difficult about this situation in any way. He sees replays from good angles and still says no penalty. There is nothing that can justify how he thought about the situation.

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  10. George22 January 2019 at 10:57

    Well, considering this previous post (https://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2019/01/uefa-27th-advanced-course-for-top.html) and Chefren's comments regarding Elite officials arriving to Portugal, it seems Gil Manzano has got a permission to get there on Monday, because he has been appointed for RCD Espanyol de Barcelona - Real Madrid on Sunday evening (Kick-off 20:45).

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    1. Chefren22 January 2019 at 11:48

      Indeed, I can confirm that UEFA in the official invitation has asked referees to arrive on Sunday evening because on Monday morning the activities will start very early.
      However, one must also add that Spain and Portugal are not so much distant. Maybe Gil Manzano will travel during the night.
      I'm curious about Italy as well, on Sunday evening we have Lazio - Juventus, very important game, at least 7 refeerees should be out because busy with UEFA, maybe Rizzoli will ask for a special permission as well...

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  11. DutchRedREF22 January 2019 at 12:36

    Feyenoord - Ajax Sunday 27th January 14:30
    Scheidsrechter: Danny Makkelie
    Assistent-scheidsrechters: Diks & Steegstra
    Vierde official: Allard Lindhout
    VAR: Bjorn Kuipers
    AVAR: Sander Van Roekel

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    1. Philipp S22 January 2019 at 18:02

      So, Makkelie will apparently not stay in UAE until the end of the Asian Cup.

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    2. MARIO23 January 2019 at 09:43

      who is in UAE as VAR trainer and coach besides Makkelie and Valeri ?

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  12. greek ref22 January 2019 at 17:36

    Greek Cup match today Panionios - Pas Giannina.

    This scene was whistled a penalty.

    https://streamable.com/da9mv

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  13. Jackson23 January 2019 at 04:12

    An interesting story has just come out on one of the referees mentioned in the above seminar list, Jarred Gillett. Jarred is one of 3 full time referees in Australia and has refereed the last 4 A-League grand finals in a row. He has resigned from FFA and will be moving to the UK where he will join PGMOL select group 2 and will referee in the English Championship next season.
    A big loss for Australian refereeing but also something that could open up whole new pathways.
    Here is the link for the full story:
    https://www.a-league.com.au/news/jarred-gillett-resigns-hyundai-a-league-referee-panel

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