2021 FIFA Arab Cup will be used for testing preselected WC referees. These are the referees in charge of Quarterfinals.
10 December 2021
Tunisia vs Oman
Referee: SIEBERT Daniel (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: FOLTYN Rafael (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: GITTELMANN Christian (GER)
Fourth Official: CONGER Matt (NZL)
Reserve AR : MAKASINI Tevita (TGA)
Video Assistant Referee: DINGERT Christian (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: BLOM Kevin (NED)
Offside VAR : SOKOLNICKI Pawel (POL)
Support VAR : KWIATKOWSKI Tomasz (POL)
Qatar vs United Arab Emirates
Referee: MATONTE CABRERA Andres Matias (URU)
Assistant Referee 1: SOPPI Martin (URU)
Assistant Referee 2: BARREIRO JARA Carlos (URU)
Fourth Official: SIKAZWE Janny (ZAM)
Reserve AR : SIWELA Zakhele (RSA)
Video Assistant Referee: GONZALEZ Leodan (URU)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: SOTO Juan (VEN)
Offside VAR : BRAILOVSKY Ezequiel (ARG)
Support VAR : KIMURA Hiroyuki (JPN)
11 December 2021
Egypt vs Jordan
Referee: MARTINEZ Said (HON)
Assistant Referee 1: LOPEZ Walter (HON)
Assistant Referee 2: RAMIREZ Christian (HON)
Fourth Official: HERNANDEZ GOMEZ Fernando (MEX)
Reserve AR : DIAZ MEDINA Karen (MEX)
Video Assistant Referee: GUERRERO Fernando (MEX)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: MARRUFO Jair (USA)
Offside VAR : CHADE Gabriel (ARG)
Support VAR : EVANS Shaun (AUS)
Morocco vs Algeria
Referee: SAMPAIO Wilton (BRA)
Assistant Referee 1: SIMON Danilo (BRA)
Assistant Referee 2: PIRES Bruno (BRA)
Fourth Official: SATO Ryuji (JPN)
Reserve AR : MIHARA Jun (JPN)
Video Assistant Referee: TRACI Rafael (BRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: CUADRA FERNANDEZ Guillermo (ESP)
Offside VAR : DOS SANTOS Jerson (ANG)
Support VAR : ESCOBEDO Adonai (MEX)
Can we expect the referee for the final to be among these 4 or is it more likely that the referee for the final will immediately officiate the final without another knock-out-game?
ReplyDeleteReferees for semi finals : marciniak -faghani / 3 rd place : janny sikazwe / final : siberet
ReplyDeleteSiebert is the new star!
DeleteA bit belatedly (ill :/), here is my review of Day 4’s officiating at FIFA Arab Cup:
ReplyDeleteTello (JORMAR: https://we.tl/t-IVtgZe6c4s)
DeleteKMIs:
If you scroll all the way back, I agree exactly with Chefren (87’) and Flip (+91’) respectively.
MtG:
Good performance in an unchallenging game, more comments can be made c. game two for the Argentine team.
Mark:
7
Marciniak (LBNALG: https://we.tl/t-Io0AqYNC1H)
DeleteKMIs:
37’ - can discuss technical merits of foul or no foul but absolutely fair enough to play on
46’ - hmmm, the problem is that this is actually a cast-iron SYC according the interpretation of the rule book; however, a) look at all those Algeria players mobbing the referee for this ejection…, and, b) the Lebanon player actually kicks the ball cleanly; so common-sense points towards no card, and FIFA want empathy-guided game-managers not robo-cop refs (and, btw, always have done!!); in Marciniak’s stead, the sensible person who wants to ref FIFA’s WC final should do the same thing I guess
60’ - fair tackle, go on
67’ - 100% correct penalty for me, if you go down the ‘dive’ route, then attacker had no option but to fall as the defender ‘impeded’ where he was going to put his leg; fouling player’s reaction encapsulates the scene perfectly, outwitted by a more skillful footballer
78’ - always when we discuss RCs, we can often here “would a YC have been enough?”; fine, it is a reasonable question, but the reverse should also be asked in some cases, “can the referee (CREDIBLY!) keep this player on the pitch”; I would defend Marciniak’s call on these grounds, kick on the borderline to reckless and SPA-ish… no issue from me with the SYC; weirdly, I wonder if not already booked, was there less chance of a (F)YC being issued? :)
79’ - penalty would be a travesty in this scene IMO; attacker and goalkeeper are both hitherto reasonably going to challenge for this aerial ball, until he realises that if he stops, he can get the goalkeeper to crash into him, DEFINITELY no offence committed by the keeper; with their football understanding, both the players (no serious appeals) and officials realise that, correct play on
81’ - show this to one-hundred (serious) football fans, ask “is this a (S)YC?” and I’d guess >95 would say yes; and they’d be right, clear correct call
MtG:
Marciniak’s brilliant ability to arouse the trust and respect of the players is almost unmatched in refereeing history (maybe Webb?). Full respect. He backed his instict when assessing disciplinary incidents, and (if you support him re. all KMIs), completely succeeded. Very convincing performance again from the Pole!
Mark:
7
Conger (SDNEGY: https://we.tl/t-LZMmI8WMoO)
DeleteKMIs:
12’ - correct penalty; actually, a very tight SPA vs. DOGSO question (I’d go yellow), but you had to detect this offence immediately in order to recognise that, Conger didn’t; you can see him craining his neck in order to see the holding, and he blows just one-ish second too late to really take that necessary ‘snapshot’; hence, the sanction question gets completely lost and the OFC team are satisfied with just awarding the penalty
15’ - Sudan player is lucky that his opponent takes evasive action because his body momentum was rather reckless indeed when he didn’t get a toe-end to the ball; nobody expects a penalty here, glad that VAR did have a detailed check, too
31’ - a very clear reckless challenge and by the book missed SYC!; from the live sequence, it looked like a simple failed attempt to kick the ball, which in this context, assessing as anything other than careless would be grave mistake; replay showed it actually turned into a stamp, and was defo reckless; to be clear, 100% no fault for Conger not issuing a SYC in ANY case, goal was scored, common-sense, especially having the perception of a kick (poor weak Sudan player, just an accident, etc.)… BUT, I think the problem is that this scene simply overtook the ref, and he didn’t really perceive anything in a sophisticated way; more of an MtG point than KMI in the end
44’ - crystal clear RC, correct final decision; on an exp-per-recog level, Conger HAS to blow up immediately and realise that this was a minimum RAP8, and sprint over to give a sanction (he’d have to guess YC vs. RC, tbf), is poor not to recognise this v. dangerous challenge in real time; with respect, referees were much better at this in mid-90s to mid-noughties at this, no excuse for Conger though
53’ - quite simple scene to unpack really, so I’m surprised it took Conger so long to finally blow up and eject SDN no.3; advantage would be lunacy in THIS game, this context, and the challenge was clearly reckless; slightly weak and caused more trouble than needed with the delay, but correct decision at the end
71’ - shot is already away so we have reckless+ vs. no foul decision to make; actually at the ref’s discretion with either call okay, but everything on common-sense level points towards the latter option
81’ - goalkeeper’s challenge was quite close to SFP IMO(!); I guess even a YC would have inflamed everyone but after the already-reckless challenge at 78’, Conger should have warned him in no uncertain terms to be careful
(Mutukera was, de facto, correct in both 72’ and 78’ :P)
MtG:
New Zealander succeeded in his primary task on this evening - curtailing the physical excesses of a rough Sudan team. Disciplinary was used effectively to keep a lid on both teams; would highlight very good cautions at 26’ (reckless(!) holding) and 75’ (technically acceptable + v. valuable balancing call).
His player interactions seemed more successful this time, but there were still occasions where he used a macedoine of random gestures in lieu of real ‘charisma’ / connecting with the actor (eg. coach warning at 77’). Very solid but technical accuracy (12’, 31’, 44’, 53’ in KMIs, plus 27’, 66’) just a bit low to take his officiating to the next level IMO.
Mark:
6
S. Martínez (PLEKSA: https://we.tl/t-s1mLRo3Qiv)
DeleteKMIs:
53’ - pre-WC-2014, a borderline incident between determining excessive force or not (I guess at WC 1998, RC a very distinct possibility); for me, no RC
57’ - hilarious scene IMO :DDDDD, the most nonchalant handling offence ever(?); if we compare to eg. Paris vs. Man Utd 2019 call, defender’s body was very tense there, whereas here, we had the impression of the Palestine defender just standing still, 10/10 for execution(!); so, I guess penalty is the more technically correct call, but agree with Flip, expectation is no offence
77’ - accidental handling, go on
81’ - depending on one’s interpretation, we can see clearly reckless + late tackle or simple late challenge for the ball with careless conseuqences; for me, rather the latter
89’ - just my personal vision, that when standing leg tackles, a) play the ball decisively, and, b) are not SFP, we should not consider SPA vs. DOGSO question due to a kind of “well the tackle was fair but…” level; would take a very strong ref to defend what would be IMO the correct call: tackle being foul not fair AND offence not being DOGSO, YC and freekick
MtG:
Tough game and great performance by the Honduran referee IMO!
- maybe I’d prefer it differently (clearer action at 11’, no statue-esque response at 13’, pulling a PLE player out more clearly in the same scene), but he acted well against dissent and prevented it for the rest of the match
- calls at 20’, 22’ were more wrong than right and showed some small lack of courage (‘smala-vision’), but showed that Martínez read this game well and understood that it could have gotten out of hand
- EXCELLENT interactions as a serious, no-player-friend leadership figure (31’, 36’, 50’, 53’, 80’, 81’)
- contrary to F. Hernández, he managed to pull off the ‘frenetic’ approach very well
Mark:
7
I forgot: thanks so much to Euro Soccer Ref for his hard work!(!)
DeleteI think that by adding more technical accuracy (53', 59', 89') to his performances, Said Martínez could become a world-class referee. Great management (!!!) but at the end of the game he could have started to issue cautions because "managing players" didn't work so good in 80'.
DeleteThe same could be said about Matthew Conger. Excellent rapport with players, widely accepted figure on the field of play, but technical accuracy is not so high in his games.
Two penalties for Qatar already. Both clearly correct - second one given after OFR.
ReplyDeleteNot the best half for Matonte or his assistant Soppi. The second penalty was one they really had to get right in real time, and at the end, the AR was corrected by VAR to allow Qatar's fifth goal. Matonte struggled more widely (MtG level) in addition.
DeleteNicholas Walsh in CSKA Sofia - Roma.
ReplyDeleteDisciplinary management:
24' First YC to Bove (Roma)
https://streamable.com/4byghp
49' Possible second YC Bove (Roma)
https://streamable.com/frw5su
71' First YC Geferson (CSKA Sofia) and (missing) dissent management
https://streamable.com/3w23jb
88' Possible second YC Geferson (CSKA Sofia)
https://streamable.com/sh2mlr
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Penalty appeal, hanbdall 39'
https://streamable.com/b3y70x
My assessments: referee had to warn the player for his blatant reaction after the YC in 71', unacceptable behavior if directed to referee, the card was 100% correct.
Second YC to Bove at the beginning of second half was mandatory, impossible to consider the challenge as careless, I think clear reckless action.
Second YC to Geferson not mandatory, but could have been given, we know how much SPA is very often grey area.
The penalty is just VAR stuff, very clear but 100% impossible for referee, maybe AR1 could have helped but I wouldn't penalize for that, despite of a possible 7.9 on paper, this must never really be considered as negative remark.
Wilton Sampaio é nome de qualidade. Vivencia uma excelente fase na sua trajetória como árbitro.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think about Man City penalty against Wolves? The ball at first hit ribs of the defender and then his armpit, for me not a penalty. I wouldn't too much blame Moss in real time it looked like a pen but VAR should have overruled it
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't look at an isolated episode in this match. First, it was the second yellow for Jimenez just seconds after a non-existing first yellow, after that was the not-given penalty for Wolves and then this simply ridiculous call came. Pure stats: since the beginning of 2019 it is the 10th!?!?!? game of J. Moss at the Etihad... You may agree or disagree but IMO almost half of these games were marked by blatant help for City.
DeleteDon't know about what Wolves potential penalty you are talking about. First YC for Raul Jimenez was may be soft for PL standards but it wasn't the key moment of the match. He can only blame himself for stupid second YC
DeleteIMO this is a quite clear PK for handball. I think when the ball hits the under side of the arm, it very often hits the triceps and is almost impossible to only hit the armpit... If it hits the upper side of the arm, you can make a point it hit the shoulder. I don't remember a scene where it hits only the armpit on the underside of the arm. Do you know any?
DeleteHere is the link: https://mixture.gg/v/61b4aa09e06f1
DeleteAny oppinions are appreciated.
Nothing to say, it is a very clear penalty, we can be sure that touch with arm happens at the same tim with another part of body, position of arm 100% to be punished. David is right.
DeleteThank you for your feedback Chefren. I can tell you, that this decision has been very very controversial for many fans. (https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/re0bso/manchester_city_1_0_wolves_raheem_sterling/?sort=top). I'm trying to understand why. For me the arm is in an unnatural position, and even the slightest touch will make it a punishable handball. That being said, the block of the ball is 95% from the side of the body. So if the arms would not be there, it would have been a successfull block. Maybe that is the reason many see it as no handball. I can not think of other reasons at the moment.
DeleteIt shows once again how little referees understand football. Most of the referees are just reading some words from the LoG but cannot understand their real meaning... And it stems from the fact that in most of the cases referees are not connected with football - their are dentists, lawyers and so on but they haven't played football and they don't watch football because simply they have no time...
DeleteNow, about this particular situation. Is it written somewhere that the defender cannot lift his arms or should defend with arms behind his back?!?!?! NO, IT IS NOT. It is said that the position of the hands sometimes can indicate to the referee if the handball is deliberate or not. In this particular case as David has said if there is a hand contact it is not more than 5 per cent. So there is simply no penalty. The position of the hands always should be just the last thing to consider because I repeat once more: IT IS NOT FORBIDDEN TO DEFEND WITH RAISED ARMS.
It is not forbidden to defend with raised arms but if the ball hit your raised arm, it's an offence. Your only action is to block a shot/pass and you make yourself unnaturally bigger -> unfair action. What more factors would you want for handball being an offence? :D
Delete@ESC,
Deletehave you watched the situation?! The defender lifted his arms because the expected flight of the ball was exactly at the body. Then probably the ball would hit 100 per cent of the arm and now it hit only 5 per cent. Moving the arms up is also a way to try to hide your arms. Nothing personal but again - you should know this if you have ever played football. Every defender feels where the ball can go and exactly because of this the defender here moved it up - to take it as far as possible from the ball.
Anonimous @ 20.09 is absolutely right. If the defender didn't lift his arm the ball would hit 100% of the arm's surface. Also the ball actually first hit the ribs and then (maybe) the arm. IMO not even close to a penalty.
DeleteReading all these opinions, I think that only thing to do about handball rule, is to abolish it. Definitely, we will never agree.
DeleteReally impossible to say that this is never a penalty, try to explain it to all Italian referees for example :D
SF predictions
ReplyDeleteTUN-EGY: Marciniak, Sokolnicki, Listkiewicz (POL), Tello (ARG) - Kwiatkowski (POL), Cuadra (ESP), Chade (ARG), Al Marri (QAT)
QAT-ALG: Conger (NZL), Makasini (TGA), Mutukera (SOL), Martinez (HON) - Blom (NED), Dingert, Gittelmann (GER), Evans (AUS)
Sf predictions : - Egypt vs Tunisia : alireza faghani iran / Qatar vs Algeria : marciniak Poland
DeleteIntervention to annul a penalty given on-field in the Egypt vs. Jordan match yesterday (92'):
ReplyDeletehttps://send.cm/d/6nkB
I think, the handball is at least a missed incident, therefore a good VAR intervention.
DeleteAnd then one can say, that he moves his arm there to play the ball.
Very difficult to spot this handball live, excellent work by VAR in my opinion, but I want to underline how much brilliant was Said Martinez in pointing the spot, see the replay behind goal, the arm moves like a spring and in a very elegant way he indicates the spot, as if he already knew before that he had to do that.
DeleteI think it is given because the player who handled the ball is being fouled (PK= goalscoring opportunity). Now with the rules stating that only the goalscorer is punished for any hand contact (immediately), how are the rules concerning a penalty kick?
DeleteAccording to the curent version of the LOTG, it can only be punished if the referee considered it as deliberate handball, since it was not a goal scored by hand. There is no specific handball rule for a penalty kick.
Deletethank you @anonymous.
DeleteIs this really a punishable handball? I understand that in the opposition box it is often given. But the arm is tucked to the body. I have my doubts.
Delete** Why handball? It is not deliberate. Arm is on his body. Only if there was a goal scored then this handball is punishable. In this case not handball and even not penalty in my opinion. ��
DeleteNo handball by the letter of the law, but I think it was a decision expected and accepted by football world.
DeleteWith quite big delay but still...
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DeleteChefren, prediction for new uefa referee category.
ReplyDeleteChefren, will there be fireworks or immobility? I foresee fireworks.
DeleteIt is very difficult to sum up all predictions, but I can say that I expect for sure Siebert (:D) promoted to Elite, and Jovanovic 99% as well, based on his appointments. The rest is very tricky, there are too many candidates but mostly all unclear situations, I really don't know where to start.
DeleteAbout the promotions to Category 1 from 2 we should have a pair of hot names as well, the most obvious, based on appointments, looks to be Di Bello then other candidates are Obrenovic, Walsh, Fesnic, Osmers, Glova, but it is very difficult to say more. I would also add Levnikov as name, after his last EL, I see indeed that after Karasev there is only a Category 1 without a real chance to achieve more, and so I think he will be promoted.
We can only wait...
Obrenovic, Di Bello, Levnikov , Eskas e Glova are the ones who seem most ready to me
DeleteEarly CL predictions
ReplyDeleteBenfica-Real: Turpin / Cakir
Villareal - ManCity: Vincic / Siebert
Atletico - Bayern: Oliver / Orsato
Salzburg - Liverpool: del Cerro Grande / Kovacs
Inter - Ajax: Karasev / Taylor
Sporting - Juventus: Marciniak / Gil Manzano
Chelsea - Lille: Zwayer / Makkelie
Paris - ManUnited: Hategan / Mateu
Salzburg Liverpool Marciniak/ Gil Manzano
DeleteMan City Villareal Cakir/Vincic
Atletico madrid Bayern munich Turpin/ Orsato
Benfica real madrid Hategan/Taylor
Sporting Juventus Siebert/Karasev
Chelsea Lille Zwayer/Del Cerro grande
Man. United PSG Makkelie/Lahoz
Inter Ajax Dias/Kovacs
That's obviously assuming that UEFA returns to 16 different referees for R16, which didn't happen in the recent seasons.
DeleteFirst alternatives (but less likely than my choices IMO) are Bastien, Soares Dias and anyone, who gets promoted to Elite.
I am not sure, whether Hategan is possible in Paris again. If not, I would swap him with Makkelie.
Philipp S, I like your predictions. Of course, we will see some names twice because otherwise it would not remain enogh options for UEL.
DeleteI think that is the time for Hategan and Vincic to get some big games in order to prepare them for eventual finals and semifinals in the future, when some of the actual top referees will have been retired. They definetly showed this autumn that they are ready for this.
CL Draw will be repeated
DeleteDraw will be redone at 15:00
ReplyDeleteDraw annulled
ReplyDeleteOMG!!! These people are running an industry with billions and billions of money... They should be ashamed of themselves and stay as far from football as possible. The same, by the way, should be said about the Referee Committee.
ReplyDeleteThis will probably be the end of Deputy General Secretary of UEFA, Giorgio Marchetti. Referees are destroyed for making mistakes in split seconds, while a draw is fully prepared.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Lutz-Michael Fröhlich, Felix Zwayer won't handle any further matche of Borussia Dortmund.
ReplyDeleteLogical decision
DeleteSo, we have an actual proof that the used software IS or COULD BE manipulated. I think that all involved parties should: A) resign immediaaely and B) MUST be investigated immediately by the European Prosecution. Anything less than that would be a joke with the thousands of millions of fans who are spending their money to follow the sport they love.
ReplyDeleteUEFA should be praised for having admitted mistake and the draw was made again, what do you want more? It was an error with a wrong team added, no manipulations.
DeletePredictions:
ReplyDeleteSalzburg - Bayern / Oliver - Turpin
Sporting CP - Man City / Manzano - Kovacs
Benfica - Ajax / Orsato - Del Grande
Chelsea - LOSC / Siebert - Dias
Atletico - Man United / Marciniak - Cakir
Villarreal - Juventus / Hategan - Karasev
Inter - Liverpool / Vincic - Lahoz
Paris - Real Madrid / Taylor - Makkelie
Mine are
DeleteSalzburg - Bayern / Oliver - Gil Manzano
Sporting CP - Man City / Turpin - Makkelie
Benfica - Ajax / Zwayer - Mateu
Chelsea - LOSC / Soares Dias - Karasev
Atletico - Man United / Marciniak - Orsato
Villarreal - Juventus / Cakir - Siebert
Inter - Liverpool / del Cerro Grande - Vincic
Paris - Real Madrid / Hategan - Taylor
Salzburg-Bayern: Taylor/Hategan
DeleteSporting-ManCity: Aytekin/Karasev
Benfica-Ajax: Marciniak/Cakir
Chelsea-Lille: Soares/Del Cerro
Atletico-ManUtd: Turpin/Orsato
Villarreal-Juventus: Siebert/Makkelie
Internazionale-Liverpool: Mateu Lahoz/Vincic
PSG-Real: Makkelie/Taylor
After all the protests by Real Madrid and considering the level of French team, I think that PSG - Real Madrid will be the most sonorous and discussed game of recent years.
ReplyDeleteUntil a few months ago we would have had this "classic" choice: Kuipers and Brych, now not possible anymore.
There will be only three candidates for these two games (first and second leg): Taylor, Makkelie and Orsato. Turpin is out and there aren't any other 100% trusted Elite, unless committee starts to change their point of view, as somebody already wrote, by appointing new names for big games.
Ok, maybe Marciniak can be the fourth name there :)
DeleteTurpin seems an obvious choice for Inter-Liverpool?
DeleteBig clash and Rosetti always careful with Italian teams. Orsato and Taylor not possible. Makkelie officiated Liverpool twice.
Turpin seems obvious for me.
I usually don`t make predictions but:
ReplyDeleteSalzburg - Bayern : Massa - Oliver
Sporting CP - Man City : Orsato - del Cerro Grande
Benfica - Ajax : Kovacs - Zwayer
Chelsea - LOSC : Siebert - Cakir
Atletico - Man United : Hategan - Vincic
Villarreal - Juventus : Karasev - Taylor
Inter - Liverpool : Lahoz - Turpin
Paris - Real Madrid : Marciniak - Makkelie
With Makkelie his games are always under control. For Taylor counts more or less the same. All other refs showing mixed performances. Very interesting to see which approach committee will have regarding these important appointments. It wouldn’t surprise me if we see Makkelie and Taylor in both legs R16. It’s all about quality and the best refs should do the most games.
ReplyDelete@ All:
ReplyDeleteDo we expect that the committee keeps their prospective CL-final Ref away from the spotlight (the biggest clashes)?
Normally I would say yes, definitely. However as already mentioned above, the top of Elite referees is super narrow.
Good question! I expect the prospective CL-final referee to be appointed for a R16 UCL and then a QF UEL. Of course taking into account which teams reaching SF and Final.
ReplyDeleteMy TOP 3 candidates for the UCL final (in the right order):
1. Makkelie
2. Taylor
3. Turpin
I would not give the final to Makkelie if I were Rosetti. He is only 38 yo and has so many seasons ahead. The wisest decision is to keep him available in future because the Top Elite could become even more narrow in future.
DeleteTaylor would be my choose but imo the chances not to see an English in final are very low. Turpin is in focus too, definitely a candidate. It would be very interesting to see the decision if both PSG and an English club make to the final.
I don't know man :)
DeleteTurpin is only 8 months older than Makkelie and was not in charge of semi-finals this year. Makkelie 3 semi's.
If committee truly considers age to be important, then we might even have to think about Carlos DCG :D
I'd like to point out that Cakir was 38 when he refereed the Champions League Final.
DeleteHoward Webb was 38 when he refereed the Champions League Final and the World Cup final.
I don't think age is that big of a factor here.
Disagree! Age doesn’t matter in sports. Makkelie will be 39 in May and because the elite group is so narrow, it will most likely not his first and last CL final. He deserves it based on performances. What motivation would you give referees if age is the only matter?
ReplyDeleteWhat you suggest is without precedent, no one ever had more than 1 UCL final and this should stay like this. Would have you liked to see only Kuipers and Brych in the finals in the last 5 years? I don`t think so.
DeleteNormally the committee would appoint a referee who is at the end of his carreer. To keep the younger referees 'hungry' :)
DeleteTo be honest there are not that many "older" available options. Unless they consider Carlos DCG for example.
-Taylor: like him a lot, but agree; unlikely based on the amount of English teams. And he got the Nations League final. I hope he gets his shot once.
-Marciniak: very experienced. Just came back to business. Might be not so in focus yet.
-Karasev: it never happened that a ref got the Supercup and CL final in the same year.
-Turpin: for sure in focus. Although it almost never happened that a referee got the CL final the year after his EL final. I think Kuipers is the exception.
Makkelie and Turpin are both still very young and good, consistent referees. Both are not faultless and have been discussed by media the past season.
Based on match control, acceptation by players and experience, I would expect that Makkelie is a little bit ahead of Turpin. He might be younger but - if I'm not mistaken - has officiated more matches in his entire carreer than Turpin. Also more sonorous matches (including three semi-finals).
But let's not forget politics. I won't be too surprised to see a Dutch or French team in the final. We'll see :)
EL&ECL predictions
ReplyDeleteSevilla-Dinamo: Guida / Bastien
Atlanta-Olympiakos: Jovanovic / Karasev
Leipzig-Sociedad: Frankowski / Kovacs
Barcelona-Napoli: Ekberg / Gözübüyük
Zenit-Betis: Massa / Siebert
Dortmund-Rangers: Sanchez / Kulbakov
Tiraspol-Braga: Schärer / Mateu
Porto-Lazio: Gil Manzano / Vincic
Marseille-Qarabag: Kehlet / Jug
Eindhoven-Maccabi: Kruzliak / Stieler
Fenerbahce-Slavia: Lechner / Collum
Midtjylland-PAOK: Ivanov / Pawson
Leicester-Randers: Jovic / Rumsas
Celtic-Bodo: Mariani / Peljto
Sparta-Partizan: Nyberg / Aytekin
Rapid-Vitesse/Tottenham: Dabanovic / Raczkowski
Blatantly missed penalty in Croatian League.
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/wsBfeeAS53E
Ref is Tihomir Pejin.
Blatant is surely an exaggeration. In my oppinion the striker dives, but there probably was a handball by the defender first, which was very hard to spot live.
Delete@David
DeleteIndeed, the problem was the missed handball, both by refs on the field (hard to see, also IMO) and VAR.
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QATIRQ: https://we.tl/t-PGUPFKaAFs
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MARKSA: https://we.tl/t-ui8YW948MN
JORPLE: https://we.tl/t-M3qtLsXUGs
LBNSDN: https://we.tl/t-e8svtLR02E
ALGEGY: https://we.tl/t-sC9VBzVCs7
Thanks to Flip, Mikael W and Howard Maxi for their contribution :)
Arab Nations Cup - Qatar 2021
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Tunisia vs Egypt
Referee: FAGHANI Alireza (IRN)
Assistant Referee 1: ABOLFAZLI Mohammadreza (IRN)
Assistant Referee 2: GITTELMANN Christian (GER)
Fourth Official: MATONTE CABRERA Andres Matias (URU)
Reserve AR : SOPPI Martin (URU)
Video Assistant Referee: CUADRA FERNANDEZ Guillermo (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: EVANS Shaun (AUS)
Offside VAR : FOLTYN Rafael (GER)
Support VAR : DINGERT Christian (GER)
Assessor : DOUE Noumandiez (CIV)
Qatar vs Algeria
Referee: MARCINIAK Szymon (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: SOKOLNICKI Pawel (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: LISTKIEWICZ Tomasz (POL)
Fourth Official: MARTINEZ Said (HON)
Reserve AR : LOPEZ Walter (HON)
Video Assistant Referee: KWIATKOWSKI Tomasz (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: BLOM Kevin (NED)
Offside VAR : BRAILOVSKY Ezequiel (ARG)
Support VAR : ESCOBEDO Adonai (MEX)
Assessor : MOHD SALLEH Subkhiddin (MAS)
Fully expected appointments. I just don't know why Matonte is so liked/pushed by FIFA - imo, he didn't convince in any of his games.
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