Discussion about 2023 Women's World Cup.
Match 1 (Auckland)
20 July 2023, 09:00 CETNEW ZEALAND - NORWAY
Refereee: Yoshimi Yamashita (JPN)
Assistant Referee 1: Makoto Bozono (JPN)
Assistant Referee 2: Naomi Teshirogi (JPN)
Fourth Official: Ivana Martinčić (CRO)
Video Assistant Referee: Tatiana Guzmán (NCA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Carol Anne Chenard (CAN)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Chantal Boudreau (CAN)
Match 2 (Sydney)
20 July 2023, 12:00 CET
AUSTRALIA - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Refereee: Edina Alves (BRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Neuza Back (BRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Leila Cruz (BRA)
Fourth Official: Maria Carvajal (CHI)
Video Assistant Referee: Daiane Muniz (BRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Soto (VEN)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Mariana De Almeida (ARG)
Assistant Referee 1: Neuza Back (BRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Leila Cruz (BRA)
Fourth Official: Maria Carvajal (CHI)
Video Assistant Referee: Daiane Muniz (BRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Soto (VEN)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Mariana De Almeida (ARG)
Match 3 (Dunedin)
21 July 2023, 07:00 CET
PHILIPPINES - SWITZERLAND
Refereee: Vincentia Amedome (TOG)
Assistant Referee 1: Carine Atezambong (CMR)
Assistant Referee 2: Fanta Kone (MLI)
Fourth Official: Myriam Marcotte (CAN)
Video Assistant Referee: Drew Fischer (CAN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Adil Zourak (MAR)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Kathryn Nesbitt (USA)
Assistant Referee 1: Carine Atezambong (CMR)
Assistant Referee 2: Fanta Kone (MLI)
Fourth Official: Myriam Marcotte (CAN)
Video Assistant Referee: Drew Fischer (CAN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Adil Zourak (MAR)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Kathryn Nesbitt (USA)
Match 4 (Melbourne)
21 July 2023, 04:30 CET
NIGERIA - CANADA
Refereee: Lina Lehtovaara (FIN)Assistant Referee 1: Chrysoula Kourompylia (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Karolin Kaivoja (EST)
Fourth Official: Iuliana Demetrescu (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Abdulla Al Marri (QAT)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Katrin Rafalski (GER)
Match 5 (Wellington)
21 July 2023, 09:30 CET
SPAIN - COSTA RICA
Refereee: Casey Reibelt (AUS)Assistant Referee 1: Ramina Tsoi (KGZ)
Assistant Referee 2: Xie Lijun (CHN)
Fourth Official: Kim Yujeong (KOR)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Armando Villarreal (USA)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Match 6 (Hamilton)
22 July 2023, 09:00 CET
ZAMBIA - JAPAN
Refereee: Tess Olofsson (SWE) Assistant Referee 1: Lucie Ratajova (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Polyxeni Irodotou (CYP)
Fourth Official: Anahi Fernandez (URU)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Salomé Di Iorio (ARG)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Franca Overtoom (NED)
Match 7 (Brisbane)
22 July 2023, 11:30 CET
ENGLAND - HAITI
Refereee: Emikar Calderas (VEN)Assistant Referee 1: Migdalia Rodriguez (VEN)
Assistant Referee 2: Mary Blanco (COL)
Fourth Official: Marianela Araya (CRC)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Soto (VEN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Nicolas Gallo (COL)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Neuza Back (BRA)
Match 8 (Perth)
22 July 2023, 14:00 CET
DENMARK - CHINA
Refereee: Marie-Soleil Beaudoin (CAN)Assistant Referee 1: Chantal Boudreau (CAN)
Assistant Referee 2: Stephanie-Dale Yee Sing (JAM)
Fourth Official: Akhona Makalima (RSA)
Video Assistant Referee: Armando Villarreal (USA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Shirley Perelló (HON)
Match 9 (Auckland)
22 July 2023, 03:00 CET
USA - VIETNAM
Refereee: Bouchra Karboubi (MAR)Assistant Referee 1: Fatiha Jermoumi (MAR)
Assistant Referee 2: Soukaina Hamdi (MAR)
Fourth Official: Ivana Martincic (CRO)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Michelle O'Neill (IRL)
Match 10 (Dunedin)
23 July 2023, 09:30 CET
NETHERLANDS - PORTUGAL
Refereee: Kateryna Monzul (UKR)Assistant Referee 1: Maryna Striletska (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulina Baranowska (POL)
Fourth Official: Myriam Marcotte (CAN)
Video Assistant Referee: Drew Fischer (CAN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Abdullah Al Marri (QAT)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Joanna Kate Charaktis (AUS)
Match 11 (Sydney)
23 July 2023, 12:00 CET
FRANCE - JAMAICA
Refereee: Maria Belen Carvajal (CHI)Assistant Referee 1: Leslie Vasquez (CHI)
Assistant Referee 2: Loreto Toloza (CHI)
Fourth Official: Laura Fortunato (ARG)
Video Assistant Referee: Nicolas Gallo (COL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Soto (VEN)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Mariana De Almeida (ARG)
Match 12 (Wellington)
23 July 2023, 07:00 CET
SWEDEN - SOUTH AFRICA
Refereee: Ekaterina Koroleva (USA) Assistant Referee 1: Kathryn Nesbitt (USA)
Assistant Referee 2: Felisha Mariscal (USA)
Fourth Official: Kim Yu-Jeong (KOR)
Video Assistant Referee: Carol Anne Chenard (CAN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tatiana Guzman (NCA)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Enedina Caudillo (MEX)
Match 13 (Adelaide)
24 July 2023, 13:00 CET
BRAZIL - PANAMA
Refereee: Cheryl Foster (WAL) Assistant Referee 1: Michelle O'Neill (IRL)
Assistant Referee 2: Franca Overtoom (NED)
Fourth Official: Iuliana Demetrescu (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Match 14 (Auckland)
24 July 2023, 08:00 CET
ITALY - ARGENTINA
Refereee: Melissa Borjas (HON) Assistant Referee 1: Shirley Perello (HON)
Assistant Referee 2: Sandra Ramirez (MEX)
Fourth Official: Ivana Martincic (CRO)
Video Assistant Referee: Tatiana Guzman (NCA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Armando Villarreal (USA)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Chantal Boudreau (CAN)
Match 15 (Melbourne)
24 July 2023, 10:30 CET
GERMANY - MOROCCO
Refereee: Tori Penso (USA) Assistant Referee 1: Brooke Mayo (USA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mijensa Rensch (SUR)
Fourth Official: Akhona Makalima (RSA)
Video Assistant Referee: Carol Anne Chenard (CAN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Muhammad Taqi Jahari (SIN)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Neuza Back (BRA)
Match 16 (Sydney)
25 July 2023, 04:00 CET
COLOMBIA - SOUTH KOREA
Refereee: Rebecca Welch (ENG)Assistant Referee 1: Natalie Aspinall (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Anita Vad (HUN)
Fourth Official: Marianela Araya (CRC)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Drew Fischer (CAN)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee :Armando Villarreal (USA)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Match 17 (Wellington)
25 July 2023, 07:30 CET
NEW ZEALAND - PHILIPPINES
Refereee: Katia Garcia (MEX)Assistant Referee 1: Karen Diaz Medina (MEX)
Assistant Referee 2: Enedina Caudillo (MEX)
Fourth Official: Kim Yu-Jeong (KOR)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Abdulla Al Marri (QAT)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Adil Zourak (MAR)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Fatiha Jermoumi (MAR)
Match 18 (Hamilton)
25 July 2023, 10:00 CET
SWITZERLAND - NORWAY
Refereee: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)Assistant Referee 1: Manuela Nicolosi (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Elodie Coppola (FRA)
Fourth Official: Anahi Fernandez (URU)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
Match 21 (Dunedin)
26 July 2023, 07:00 CET
JAPAN - COSTA RICA
Refereee: Maria Sole Ferrieri Caputi (ITA) Assistant Referee 1: Francesca Di Monte (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mihaela Țepușă (ROU)
Fourth Official: Myriam Marcotte (CAN)
Video Assistant Referee: Massilimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Salomé Di Iorio (ARG)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Match 20 (Auckland)
26 July 2023, 09:30 CET
SPAIN - ZAMBIA
Refereee: Oh Hyeonjeong (KOR)Assistant Referee 1: Lee Seul Gi (KOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Park Misuk (KOR)
Fourth Official: Ivana Martinčić (CRO)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Muhammad Taqi Jahari (SIN)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Abdullah Al Marri (QAT)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
Match 19 (Perth)
26 July 2023, 14:00 CET
CANADA - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Refereee: Laura Fortunato (ARG)Assistant Referee 1: Mariana De Almeida (ARG)
Assistant Referee 2: Daiana Milone (ARG)
Fourth Official: Akhona Makalima (RSA)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Aejandro José Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Neuza Back (BRA)
Match 22 (Brisbane)
27 July 2023, 12:00 CET
AUSTRALIA - NIGERIA
Refereee: Esther Staubli (SUI) Assistant Referee 1: Katrin Rafalski (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Susanne Kueng (SUI)
Fourth Official: Lina Lehtovaara (FIN)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
Match 23 (Wellington)
27 July 2023, 03:00 CET
USA - NETHERLANDS
Referee: Yoshimi Yamashita (JPN)Assistant Referee 1: Makoto Bozono (JPN)
Assistant Referee 2: Naomi Teshirogi (JPN)
Fourth Official: Kim Yujeong (KOR)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Juan Soto (VEN)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Nicolas Gallo (COL)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Leslie Vasquez (CHI)
Match 24 (Hamilton)
27 July 2023, 09:30 CET
PORTUGAL - VIETNAM
Referee: Salima Mukansanga (RWA)Assistant Referee 1: Queency Victoire (MRI)
Assistant Referee 2: Mary Njoroge (KEN)
Fourth Official: Anahi Fernandez (URU)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Adil Zourak (MAR)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Daiane Muniz (BRA)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Fatiha Jermoumi (MAR)
Match 27 (Dunedin)
28 July 2023, 02:00 CET
ARGENTINA - SOUTH AFRICA
Referee: Anna-Marie Keighley (NZL)Assistant Referee 1: Sarah Jones (NZL)
Assistant Referee 2: Maria Salamasina (SAM)
Fourth Official: Iuliana Demetrescu (ROU)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Abdulla Al Marri (QAT)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Drew Fischer (CAN)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Felisha Mariscal (USA)
Match 25 (Sydney)
28 July 2023, 10:30 CET
ENGLAND - DENMARK
Referee: Tess Olofsson (SWE)Assistant Referee 1: Lucie Ratajova (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Polyxeni Irodotou (CYP)
Fourth Official: Oh Hyeonjeong (KOR)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Tatiana Guzman (NCA)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Carol Anne Chenard (CAN)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Kathryn Nesbitt (USA)
Match 26 (Adelaide)
28 July 2023, 13:00 CET
CHINA - HAITI
Referee: Marta Huerta De Aza (ESP) Assistant Referee 1: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Sanja Rođak-Karšić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Marianela Araya (CRC)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Mariana De Almeida (ARG)
Match 28 (Brisbane)
29 July 2023, 12:00 CET
FRANCE - BRAZIL
Referee: Kate Jacewicz (AUS)Assistant Referee 1: Kim Kyoungmin (KOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Joanna Charaktis (AUS)
Fourth Official: Lina Lehtovaara (FUIN)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Armando Villarreal (USA)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Enedina Caudillo (MEX)
Match 29 (Perth)
29 July 2023, 14:30 CET
PANAMA - JAMAICA
Referee: Kateryna Monzul (UKR)Assistant Referee 1: Marybna Striletska (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulina Baranowska (POL)
Fourth Official: Akhona Makalima (RSA)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Adil Zourak (MAR)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Match 30 (Wellington)
29 July 2023, 09:30 CET
SWEDEN - ITALY
Referee: Cheryl Foster (WAL) Assistant Referee 1: Michelle O'Neill (IRL)
Assistant Referee 2: Franca Overtoom (NED)
Fourth Official: Myriam Marcotte (CAN)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
Match 33 (Dunedin)
30 July 2023, 09:00 CET
SWITZERLAND - NEW ZEALAND
Referee: Tori Penso (USA) Assistant Referee 1: Brooke Mayo (USA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mijensa Rensch (SUR)
Fourth Official: Iuliana Demetrescu (ROU)
Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Match 31 (Sydney)
30 July 2023, 11:30 CET
GERMANY - COLOMBIA
Referee: Melissa Borjas (HON)Assistant Referee 1: Shirley Perello (HON)
Assistant Referee 2: Sandra Ramirez (MEX)
Fourth Official: Yoshimi Yamashita (JPN)
Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Match 32 (Adelaide)
30 July 2023, 06:30 CET
SOUTH KOREA - MOROCCO
Referee: Edina Alves (BRA) Assistant Referee 1: Neuza Back (BRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Leila Moreira (BRA)
Fourth Official: Marianela Araya (CRC)
Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Match 34 (Auckland)
30 July 2023, 09:00 CET
NORWAY - PHILIPPINES
Referee: Marie-Soleil Beaudoin (CAN)Assistant Referee 1: Chantal Boudreau (CAN)
Assistant Referee 2: Stephanie Yee-Sing (JAM)
Fourth Official: Anahi Fernandez (URU)
Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Match 35 (Melbourne)
31 July 2023, 12:00 CET
CANADA - AUSTRALIA
Referee: Assistant Referee 1:
Assistant Referee 2:
Fourth Official:
Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Match 36 (Brisbane)
31 July 2023, 12:00 CET
REPUBLIC OF IRELAND - NIGERIA
Referee: Assistant Referee 1:
Assistant Referee 2:
Fourth Official:
Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Match 37 (Wellington)
31 July 2023, 09:00 CET
JAPAN - SPAIN
Referee: Assistant Referee 1:
Assistant Referee 2:
Fourth Official:
Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Match 38 (Hamilton)
31 July 2023, 09:00 CET
COSTA RICA - ZAMBIA
Referee: Assistant Referee 1:
Assistant Referee 2:
Fourth Official:
Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee:
Second announcement went better, overall good game by the referee, shame about the 2 wrong, but close decisions by AR1
ReplyDeleteShe mixed japanese with English. It was very unclear. They should remove this nonsense new thing. Body language is much more clear. Now they talk instead of using body language. Can't they do two things at the same time?
DeleteI dont get how you as a referee can put yourself in this position. When you are appointed as an international referee the first thing you should do is to sign up for an english class if you are not fluent already. Tess Olofsson did 4 announcements in her game perfect
DeleteIts not just about announcing decisions like this. How do you talk to players, coaches, colleagues and observers when you cant speak english?
English isn’t a world language. Especially not for Japanese people. You compare Tess from Sweden with a Japanese? More than 75% of Swedish tv is English. They learn English in 1st grade in school.
DeleteI post it here again: Interesting situation in Spain-Sambia, third goal. Defender tries to commit a red card DOGSO in the penalty area (pushing the attacker), but the attacker stays on her feet and scores. The Referee is visibly showing advantage. Shouldn't there a YC be following despite the goal? What do the LotG say?
ReplyDeleteYes, you're absolutely correct. A yellow card is required by law here (unless someone thinks that was somehow not an obvious goal scoring opportunity!)
DeleteWith the visible advantage shown by referee, should be indeed YC for DOGSO after the goal scored.
DeleteYes but nobody expects it. They should remove that law. If it’s a goal who cares. But as it is now it’s 100% a misses yellow card.
DeleteThanks for your replies! Glad that I remembered it correct. Of course I don't actually know if I would want to give it in one of my games if I'm honest, but I'm also not a world cup referee... ;-)
DeleteDoes someone have of a clip of that situation please ?
Deletehttps://streamin.me/v/99d86826
DeleteSpain -Zambia
DeleteAnnouncement mix up: have to feel sorry for referee who clearly isn’t confident in English. Bad luck there should then be another one! Let’s hope Figa don’t overreact as she had an excellent game.
Advantage for GSO: Good alertness and decision to play on (claimed credit for a good advantage by only signaling advantage when ball on the way in to goal…!). Technically a YC, but if Collina wants people to ‘manage’ cards (ie. ignore them and often ignore clear offences early in games) then this has to be ignored too as nobody cares or expects a YC there, especially in a one-sided game.
Thanks Chefran !
DeleteWhat do you think FIFA will do at CRC-ZAM? A "dead" game where neither team has a chance, chance to see a support referee? or someone who performed poorly and will get a second chance here?
ReplyDeleteNo 4th official assignment for Ivana Martinčić 27-30 July. This makes her a strong candidate for CRC-ZAM.
DeleteAR from Palestine is a strong candidate for a dead game. She lives in Sweden and is probably around their 10th best AR in the womens league and would not be a FIFA ref. Swedens strongest AR-candidate (Almira Spahic, was in Euro 2021) would have been far better choice for this tournament. But politics...
DeleteThe only YC in JPN - CRC, I didn't watch it, but it looks like an extremely fair and easy game for Ferrieri Caputi, maybe same as Spain - Zambia...
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/xh88fb
Big emotion at coin toss:
Deletehttps://streamable.com/4b5e96
Moreover, I rarely saw the officials doing that still with the jackets.
What emotion do you mean?
DeleteJust try to catch the detail, not difficult for me to understand :)
DeleteThere is no detail. She caught the coin and then changed her mind. Where is the emotion?
Deletei thought it is a shame that FIFA makes Ivana Martincic a 4th official so many times. She is one of the best referees but now i thought, what if they put her there to support less experienced referees. you can see her coaching them (see sambia/spain minute 37 she clearly says: " just send them out") love to see her!
ReplyDeleteIt’s great that she’s taking on that role, but she has never been a referee at the World Cup herself, so it would be very unfair to make her wait just for this role, since she clearly deserves to be a main ref. If FIFA indeed thought about this (feels more like a personal action than a planned action from FIFA though), it should be someone like Staubli or even Adamkova, who already achieved games at the World Cup
Deletethats true. well i just hope we will see her. i really like the way she works.
DeleteExcellent yc on 60 mins for delaying restart/ unspoilt behaviour
ReplyDelete*unsporting
DeleteSpain - Zambia, troubles with referee's announcement after VAR intervention:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/lpj1pi
I must admith, very poor to be watched and she was also angry at herself after, changing the tone. I don't know how much this, taken alone, can be enough for an assessment?
Hopefully FIFA does not take much notice of this and rather look at the rest of the performance instead. Referees are here to take decisions, not to talk in a mic
DeleteWhy is this such a big topic? She was very nervous and things like that can happen.
DeleteSecond announcement: https://streamable.com/orycep
DeleteBetter, but still with a very agitated body language.
Not clear what she says after "review" and before "offside".
https://streamable.com/orycep
I think she might be trying to say "number seventeen is not offside"
DeleteIt's unfortunate, but this seems a good case where talking adds nothing. Pointing to the centre after a tv symbol is very clear to all. Saying just the decision with no explanation/clarification just seems pointless. I wonder how this would work in domestic leagues? I assume the local langauge would be spoken, but with no signal it'll take international audiences (and maybe foreign players) time to work out what happened. I would much rather a signal, then a clarification after if the situation requires. Or better still, Ifab to allow a trial of the live conversation being broadcast!
DeleteOn another note, why took the decision so long in the first situation? Shouldn't this be much quicker with SAOT?
DeleteVery good performance by Fortunato
ReplyDeleteWell refereed game by Fortunato in Perth. Both YCs correct (I echo Ecrosse's statement about the 2nd one). Correct rejection of an early IRL penalty appeal as well. Not the toughest game, but still convincing imo
ReplyDeleteEcosse* I'm sorry :)
DeleteBest non-Uefa performance I've seen this tournament. Not fussy, noticable when needed, always in control. Really happy to see an advantage after an offside at 50' (several cases where this should have happened in other matches), and a foul throw being given (again, about time!) No doubt better games to come
ReplyDeleteSerbia found another excellent referee for future in UEFA, Milos Milanovic. I am watching him in Crvena zvezda- Fiorentina. He will be flying soon.
ReplyDeleteCome on, it was a friendly game and absolutely not challenging.
DeleteI have seen him before, this evening confirmed . I like to look beyond the mere performance, I look at the substance. It seems to me he has a lot of it. We'll talk again in three years dear anonymous.
DeleteWe heard similar things about Maresca a few years ago, but he is still at the same level, with no significant progress...
DeleteI agree with pita, I think someone also already said when he got UECL match last year in such young age, the new Milorad Mazic.
Deletetalent and career do not always travel parallel, bad luck, crucial errors or the personal interpretation of a committee member can determine the way... but if you feel like watching some of Maresca's matches you will understand his excellent skills
DeleteOT: I read the news about the UEFA referees committee in the previous post and I have a question...where is Dallas?
ReplyDeleteSecond match of Monzul , Foster and Penso
ReplyDeleteFirst match of Jacewicz FRA vs BRA
How to avoid YCs at all costs: Yamashita's first half. Ignoring PI (e.g. Groenen), wishing away reckless offences (e.g. tackle in 13') and rather than using her cards giving verbal warnings until the cows come home (27', 45+3', 45+4'). There is leniency and there is simply not doing your job.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the tackle in 13 is a big mistake, clear YC for reckless challenge. I can support the verbal warnings in 27, 45+3 and 45+4 but she really can't continue to keep her cards in her pockets. Her great alertness stops this game from boiling over, but not even that can save her for much longer
DeleteIf you're okay with only cautioning 1 of all those incidents mentioned. Then you sir, are part of the problem. The matched turned into an ugly overly physical brutal affair because of Yamashita.
DeleteAre Reserve Assistant Referees not being appointed? Or are they just not noted here?
ReplyDeleteDoes FIFA really think Yamashita is one of the top refs? I am really confused. There were so many times where a dutch player made no attempt for the ball and pulled shirt and hair. No yellow
ReplyDeleteWho are you kidding? Yamashita is an "amazing" referee (in the eyes of those who wish to destroy what refereeing should be). She's exactly what FIFA wants its "modern" referees to be. Mindless lumps of spineless mush that follow "orders", no questions asked. So don't be surprised by the matches she's assigned to. FIFA rewards those who are good sheeple.
DeleteShe recovered very well from her biggest mistake in the match when she did not card NDR #10 for a really nasty foul on USA#10. This was shortly after giving the USA the first caution for a nasty reckless (retaliatory foul). Prior to this she had done her best to control behavior with 4 "public talkings". USA#10 was really hot, and let it show. Ref, took her time, allowed some dissent then waiting till the temp went down before proceeding with a corner (that #10 USA scored on). After that it was soccer the rest of the game. Could have been a disaster for the Japanese ref, but it all worked out well for her. Some would say luck, others would say great management.
Delete“FIFA wants … mindless lumps of spineless mush who follow orders no questions asked.” You say this about referees using judgment when deciding to call fouls and issue cards to control a game vs a robotic stance where everything is called and every situation in which a card could be issued it is. I would suggest you are the one advocating for mindless lumps of spineless mush to call games in strict adherence to the laws of the game. I remember world cups where cards were issued for all the things FIFA was trying to crack down on and it wasn’t a pretty game, and the players didn’t adjust. They still time wasted, I think there is also something to the idea that you can call a match differently in a brief tournament like the World Cup vs a marathon 8-10 month season. A strong referee can use their personality more in a World Cup to manage players and keep them in the game when cards issued have more severe consequences.
DeleteIt’s pretty arrogant for the people on this blog to think they understand the game better than the people governing it. And Collina is arguably the greatest referee ever (not saying that he absolutely is, but that the argument is out there). He probably understands a little more about controlling a match at that level than we do.
There was a lot of complaining about refereeing at WC2022. If you only read this blog and didn’t watch the matches, you would have thought it was just horrendously officiated from top to bottom, except for maybe the final, which everyone agreed was great. But matches that reportedly should have had five more yellow cards issued and maybe a send off were highly entertaining, often without a lot of dissent, and the players played. I thoroughly enjoyed that WC, and aside from a bit of a rough start for a few officials, have really enjoyed the matches I’ve been able to see here. There were some early women’s world cups where because of countries advancing, the referees selected in later rounds weren’t great. I’ve not seen any indication that will be a problem here. And if Yamashita gets the final next month, it will be well deserved.
All the BS that happened from the 61st minute up until the US scored. Was a completely pointless "stunt" by Yamashita. It truly felt and looked as if she simply likes hearing herself speak. Because the players weren't paying her no attention because she had already lost them. I thought she was going to make Horan and van den Donk hug and kiss to make up. That's how dumb that whole thing was. For a referee that seems to want to go unnoticed, she made it all about herself for that time period.
ReplyDeleteIf this is what passes off as good officiating. Maybe it's time to look for other sports, where referees actually honor and follow their rule books.
ReplyDeleteI just realize that there is an all-CONCACAF match in the group stage (Panama - Jamaica) that will be handled by Kateryna Monzul. How was that draw result possible? Usually, two teams from the same confederation are not allowed (with the exception of UEFA with more than eight representatives)?
ReplyDeleteHaiti qualified after play-offs, but the draw was made before the play-off results were known; since it is impossible to account for all confederations that participate in a play-off path, this is not taken into account and so Panama and Haiti ended up together
DeleteI think, I found the answer to my question: The draw was made when the play-offs were still pending:
DeleteGroup A with AFC/CAF/UEFA
Group B with CAF/CONCACAF/CONMEBOL
Group C with AFC/CONCACAF/CONMEBOL/OFC
There would probable have been too many restrictions if one had considered all the possible results. For example, the winner of group A should have been drawn in a group with exactly one other UEFA representative as well as one from CONCACAF and CONMEBOL each. (OFC was itself in the play-offs).
Anyone to comment on Referee Salima Mukansanga performances? I think she had a brilliant game! No much pressure!
ReplyDeleteYes, very good performance, no mistakes in am easy game.
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DeleteGood first YC by Staubli
ReplyDeleteAnd correct to send her off the pitch, medical treatment was too long
DeleteWhat about Yamashita and Mukansanga performance ?
ReplyDeleteWhen no talk, nothing in the games
DeleteRead above. Plenty of comments in regard to Yamashita. In reality, she was nowhere near good or even acceptable. But in FIFA's insane, idiotic, and warped view, surely, she was excellent.
DeletePoor moment for Staubli - YC correct for Aus #9 but less than a minute later fails to call even a foul for similar challenge
ReplyDeleteShe gave advantage and clearly noticed the foul
DeleteI agree with 1253... excellent delay and advantage given
Deletedelay and advantage are perfect and surely the right thing here to not immediately whistle.
Deletemy broadcaster didn't show a good replay, it looked like a YC could have been given afterwards but I'm not sure.
Good Performance so far
DeleteIt was the player who was already booked, so it would have been 2YC
DeleteOk missed the advantage being played but still poor not to go back for YC considering the very short proximity of the two very similar fouls.
ReplyDelete55' Good no penalty decision. Staubli well detected that it was a foul by the attacking player. Decision came in fast and confident manner. So far generally a good performance. One can see that Staubli is an experienced and trusted referee.
ReplyDeleteVery hard kick to chest of nigerian attacker while she scores the second goal. hard to detect but I think a card should have followed and would surely have if there would not have been a goal scored.
ReplyDeleteShe didn't see her and her only intention was to kick the ball. No card is correct. Otherwise it’s SFP not a yellow card.
Deletehttps://streamable.com/yug6go
DeleteThis is a missed RC for me.
The idea that this is a missed red card seems insane to me.
DeleteThe defender is trying to clear the ball off the goal line. She only has eyes on the ball. She turns and kicks at the ball and an opponent (who also only has eyes for the ball) gets there first and heads it into the net. Both players were absolutely doing their jobs and they only thing they should do. It's all instinct. We're going to send off defenders who are second best here AFTER the goal is scored? Why? Who on the field reacted like this was an egregious or unacceptable challenge?
Goals matter a lot in our sport. People are desperate to score them and desperate to stop them. Sometimes unfortunate phsyical results happen. This isn't a gratuitous kick the abdomen at midfield. It's different. And the players understand that. We would do well as referees to understand that, too. The idea that any referee would sort this out with a red card is somewhat frightening to me.
IMO the comparable incident in SWERSA is a pretty nasty challenge and a RC could be an option (in theory), but on this scene I agree entirely with what usaref wrote.
DeleteRather an unlucky incident, with defender trying a save, totally unaware of opponent coming to score, and then you have as result a very strong kick on chest. No other options than red card for SFP if you assess the incident without the context, but how much referees must be allowed to find such explanations for challenges? This could be valid. If football refereeing is understanding of the moments, we could then explain many moments... basically I would agree with you, but this was an extremely dangerous action. Then we see penalties for very soft contacts and all people are happy, this is definitely something more serious. I threfore think you can't blame a referee issuing a RC. Also, according to my opinion, this was definitely more evident than SWERSA.
DeleteI'm sorry. I'll leave things alone after this, but I just have to respond and say you DO have to blame a referee for issuing a red card here. It would show absolutely no feel for the game or its participants. I can't believe people are seriously suggesting that's the correct outcome here. It shows no understanding of what our role and responsibilities are in the sport.
DeleteAlso, why is this an "extremely dangerous action?" She's trying to clear the ball off the goal line. She did exactly what every defender in the world would do in that situation. Nothing more.
"If football refereeing is understanding of the moments..."?!?! There should be no "if" there.
Very good performance by Staubli and her team. Foul detection, cards & game control spot on. Really happy for her! She hasn‘t ever had a WC Final, why not her?
ReplyDeleteShe was indeed doing good
DeleteIf it is possible to have again a UEFA referee for final game after Frappart, then indeed: why not Staubli? She is well trusted, very experienced and has had all other great finals (EURO 17 and Champions League). But I think it will be a referee from another confederation, but probably it also depends on the last two teams. Staubli should definitely be a candidate for late stages of the tournement.
DeleteI see the point of appointing a ref from another confederation; in the end, the WC needs a suitable ref for the final. Till now, there is just no ref who has stable and good performances like UEFA refs when it comes to female refs. (Let‘s see if Fortunato, Mukansanga (or maybe Yamashita) perform well in the knockout stage).
DeleteDon’t rule out Borjas (good first game, very experienced) or Beaudoin (semi-final last time, but both dependent on potential USA involvement). I would argue that Jacewicz is a strong contender as well, but we still need to see her this tournament - overall, too many possibilities to appoint a UEFA referee is my feeling
DeleteAnd staubli is in men top divison with many games i saw. And Its her third WC. Same like frappar. I am shore she will have a next big game or final!!!
DeleteI agree, Staubli looked great. The decision at 56’ was really good, and the body language to explain it was even better. All game she looks focused, calm, and confident. Correct YCs are well. The one notable miss, I think she should have cautioned the defender on Nigeria’s second goal for the reckless kick.
DeletePortugal - Vietnam: unclear the reason of this YC.
ReplyDeleteIt can be either for the foul or the reaction.
https://streamable.com/vlh6zb
Broadcaster didn't help at first with a replay and then later without following closely the incident.
Mukansanga shows herself a bit agitated against the player.
66': Penalty appeal by Portugal.
Deletehttps://streamable.com/1n5v34
Attacker extremely convinced to get a penalty, she couldn't believe PLAY ON decision.
In my opinion very risky action by defender, penalty could have been whistled, but no VAR stuff.
50' Missed YC for reckless challenge?
DeleteAssessed as careless, no card.
https://streamable.com/3e4xve
I grow tired of this "no VAR stuff" for things like 66'. It's a deliberate foul to stop a goal-scoring opportunity. Just because the Portuguese player still gets the shot off we are supposed to say "meh, good enough?"
DeleteWe parse handballs down to a science on plays where we know they are completely accidental. But we should let these sort of fouls go because... why, exactly?
I'm sorry, but it's comical that this was a play on and very poor by the VAR team to not intervene. If this is good officiating we are missing the forest for the trees.
I'm slightly bemused by the amount of potentially avoidable travelling undertaken by some of the officials as the tournament progresses. It is obviously impossible to have 1 base for all officials given the geography of the host nations. It looks like Makalima will be FO at all 5 games in Perth (she travelled Perth-Melbourne-Perth for GER-MOR). FOs for the 5 other Australia grounds will be a mix I expect. Ditto Martincic as FO in Auckland, Fernandez as FO in Hamilton, Marcotte/Demetrescu as FO in Dunedin & Wellington & Kim in Wellington. Foster had BRA-PAN on 24/7 in Adelaide & then has SWE-ITA on 29/7 in Wellington. Monzul had HOL-POR on 23/7 in Dunedin and then has PAN-JAM in Perth on 29/7. Oloffson had ZAM-JAP in Hamilton on 22/7 and then has ENG-DEN on 28/7 in Sydney. Oh had SPA-ZAM in Auckland on 26/7 and then is FO for ENG-DEN on 28/7 in Sydney - that strikes me as ridiculous. And, perhaps most peculiarly of all, Demetrescu is FO twice in Australia and then flies to NZ for another 2 (at least) FO. Physical and mental health concerns alongside confederation neutrality, it seems the former are underestimated.
ReplyDeleteThe way they've played I wouldn't rule out an American ref yet for the final.
ReplyDeleteMy final candidates: Beaudoin, Borjas, Yamashita, Jacewicz and Staubli
DeleteWhy u ruled out Keighley? She is from cohost nation
DeleteKeighley’s opening game is significantly worse than those of the 5 names mentioned by anonymous 19:52, I would agree with that selection. Keighley, for me, is in the ‘only an option if none of those 5 are available due to politics / bad performances’ category, in which I would also place Mukansanga and Penso, who also had some not-so-great games to start with (on paper)
DeleteLet's see how many of the last 16 group games can be predicted accurately, the 1st is already known
ReplyDelete30/7 - SWI v NZ - Conmebol - Penso (USA) already known
30/7 - NOR-PHI - SA - Carvajal (CHI)
31/7 - CAN-AUS - UEFA - Frappart (FRA)
31/7 - ROI-NIG - Conmebol - Borjas (HON)
31/7 - JAP-ESP - SA - Calderas (VEN)
31/7 - CRC-ZAM - UEFA - Welch (Eng)
1/8 - CHI-ENG - SA - Alves (BRA)
1/8 - HAI-DEN - Asia - Reibelt (AUS)
1/8 - POR-USA - Oceania - Keighley (NZ)
1/8 - VIE-HOL - CAF - Amedome (TOG)
2/8 - PAN-FRA - Asia - Oh (KOR)
2/8 - JAM-BRA - UEFA - Ferrieri (ITA)
2/8 - SAF-ITA - Conmebol - Beaudoin (CAN)
2/8 - ARG-SWE - Asia - Jacewicz (AUS)
3/8 - SKO-GER - CAF - Karboubi (MAR)
3/8 - MOR-COL - UEFA - Huerta de Aza (ESP)
All of which would point to 5 whose 2nd game would be round of 16 (Mukasanga, Garcia, Koroleva, Staubli & Fortunato)
Penso, Borjas and Beaudoin are from Concacaf, not Conmebol.
Delete31" A perfect example of why to delay the flag. Quite a clear onside distance-wise in the end, but understable why flagged
ReplyDeleteARG-RSA, 31‘: Goal given after VAR decision, no offside, difficult to see for AR2 but she had no good position. Good by Keighley to give first the explanation and than the final decision.
ReplyDeleteWasn’t a difficult decision if in the correct position. AR2 at least 3 metres ahead and out of position, having not come out with the defender. Very poor alertness and thankful to VAR to help correct. Keighley doing well - wouldn’t surprised to see AR2 swapped in any future game.
Delete43' Player booked so will miss next match. Was it as bad as the challenge around 21mins which was also a highish boot that went without a caution? Absolutley not. The player is unlucky
ReplyDeleteAnd now in like the 52nd minute or something around there, she is very lucky, could easily have been booked again for a reckless arm to the face
DeleteI couldn't watch it, but the Google commentary said the YC at 43 was for a reckless elbow.
DeleteSecond match of Borjas , Alves and Beaudoin
ReplyDeletePretty small game for Alves. I wonder what FIFA thought of her AUSvIRL game which, in my opinion, was below average. I have noticed over the course of the tournament that the leniency we saw early on has faded a bit. Maybe FIFA didn't like it. Yamashita appointed as fourth official, as well, is notable.
DeleteDecent game for Borjas, though I expected something a little bigger. And Beaudoin, well-trusted, gets an important game, but one that could turn out to be much less difficult than it is important. So, in a sense, this is a game that protects her for future assignments, while also being an insurance policy in case the match becomes difficult and/or critical for qualification.
Predictions MD3
ReplyDelete[KOR-MAR: Caputi, di Monte (both ITA), Tepusa (ROU), Araya (CRC) - Irrati (ITA), di Iorio (ARG), Porras (ESP)
GER-COL: Reibelt (AUS), Tsoi (KGZ), Xie (CHN), Amedome (TOG) - Al Marri (QAT), Fischer (CAN), Fomo (CMR)]
SUI-NZL: [Penso, Mayo (both USA), Rensch (SUR), Demetrescu (ROU)] - Chenard (CAN), Bin Jahari (SGP), Back (BRA)
NOR-PHI: Koroleva, Nesbitt, Mariscal (all USA), Fortunato (ARG) - Villareal (USA), Guzman (NCA), de Almeida (ARG)
JPN-ESP: Calderas, Rodriguez (both VEN), Blanco (COL), Marcotte (CAN) - Soto (VEN), Gallo (COL), Massey (ENG)
CRC-ZAM: Martincic (CRO), Kourompylia (GRE), Saadieh (PLE), Fernandez (URU) - van Boekel (NED), de Vries (BEL), O'Neill (IRL)
CAN-AUS: Frappart, Nicolosi, Coppola (all FRA), Makalima (RSA) - Martinez (ESP), Fritz, Rafalski (both GER)
IRL-NGA: Oh, Lee, Park (all KOR); Garcia (MEX) - Bin Jahari (SGP), Al Marri (QAT), Diaz (MEX)
POR-USA: Carvajal, Vazquez, Toloza (all CHI), Karboubi (MAR) - Gallo (COL), Soto (VEN), Jermoumi (MAR)
VIE-NED: Borjas, Perello (both HON), Ramirez (MEX), Demetrescu (ROU) - Guzman (NCA), Chenard (CAN), Caudillo (MEX)
HAI-DEN: Mukansanga (RWA), Victoire (MRI), Njoroge (KEN), Yamashita (JPN) - Zourak (MAR), Al Marri (QAT), Bozono (JPN)
CHN-ENG: Alves, Back, Cruz (all BRA), Araya (CRC) - Muniz (BRA), di Iorio, de Almeida (both ARG)
ARG-SWE: Jacewicz (AUS), Kim (KOR), Charaktis (AUS), Amedome (TOG) - Bin Jahari (SGP), Chenard (CAN), Fomo (CMR)
RSA-ITA: Beaudoin, Boudreau (both CAN), Sing (JAM), Marcotte (CAN) - Villareal (USA), Fischer (CAN), Mariscal (USA)
PAN-FRA: Keighley, Jones (both NZL), Salamasina (SAM), Kim (KOR) - Al Marri (QAT), Zourak (MAR), Massey (ENG)
JAM-BRA: Staubli (SUI), Rafalski (GER), Küng (SUI), Makalima (RSA) - Fritz (GER), van Boekel (NED), de Vries (BEL)
MAR-COL: Huerta, Porras (both ESP), Rodak (CRO), Koroleva (USA) - Hernandez, Martinez (both ESP), Nesbitt (USA)
KOR-GER: Garcia, Diaz, Caudillo (all MEX), Fernandez (URU) - Fischer (CAN), Villareal (USA), Perello (HON)
Lol - CRC-ZAM is really the game for the referees that was politically assigned that isnt really good enough to be in this WC.
DeleteHumiliation for Martincic?
DeleteCalderas after horrible performance no way without CONMEBOL political interference, Martincic more deserved than her, sorry to say
DeleteFor Martincic, I think it would be better to not be appointed at all than an appointment to meaningless CRC-ZAM. This would just be a complete humiliation and yet another confirmation that politics and not actual talent is the deciding factor when it comes to appointments
DeleteVery curious about Costa Rica - Zambia, one thing is sure for me, they will appoint AR from Palestine, still not used. Then, difficult to guess about the rest, maybe a full AFC trio...
DeleteI do think it's a bit surprising having a Swedish referee for Denmark. I can't imagine you'd ever have a Scottish referee for England
ReplyDeleteENG and SCO have the same King. So not possible with a SCO referee for ENG game. The King of SWE and the Queen of DEN are cousins. Maybe that is the difference that makes this assignment OK?
DeleteHardly the monarch that is the problem here. I don't think there would be any problem with assigning Beaudoin to a England game if needed. It's more to do with the fact that England and Scotland are part of the same country while Sweden and Denmark are different countries. But still a bit surprising considering that ties between the Nordic countries are still pretty strong compared to other neighbours
DeleteIt’s women’s football. That’s the only reason. No hooligan fans. They don’t care about things like this.
DeleteSolid 1st half by Olofsson; confident, calm and in control. Good decision to stop play for the serious knee injury. Not too many challenging situations, hopefully the 2nd half will be more intense.
ReplyDeleteTwo playing teams. A referee who allows football to be played and not fussy. All happy. I'm sure wee things could be found, but a clean sheet and good match for Olofsson
ReplyDeleteI Linke Olofsson and her style. Good performance in a normal game.
ReplyDelete*like
DeleteNot the worst performance from Tess Olofsson , but not the best. Gave a lot of fouls when a player just decided to fall down after a slight touch.
ReplyDeleteCorrect intervention for RC serious foul play.
ReplyDeleteVery concise and good announcement by the referee too
The announcement thing is so unnecessary. It’s nothing more than a competition on who speaks English the best.
DeleteCorrect RC after OFR by Huerta
ReplyDeleteCorrect SFP RC for Chinese player after OFR, underpunished with a YC by Huerta de Aza.
ReplyDeleteThe RC for SFP after OFR:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/7lftlj
Disappointing miss from Huerta de Aza on the red card, but the review was very efficient and the announcement very clear.
ReplyDeleteNot the best start for the Spaniard. There was another incident in the 18th minute that I think she wrongfully assessed, she called a careless foul by China when in reality I think it was a reckless foul by Haiti, very unorthodox collision that was difficult to assess in real time. Other than these two incidents, Huerta de Aza hasn't had too much to do.
Just as well that was offside. The touch of the head of Huerta de Aza clearly changed the course of the ball
ReplyDeleteIf that hadn't been offside it would have been very interesting to see if we would have had an on-field review for "ball out of play" for the touching a match official and starting a promising attack! Strange decision not to stop play in that situation.
DeleteVery tight onside here. Hueza signalled a penalty kick but then offside on the delayed flag. Very marginally onside, the assistant referee in perfect position got it wrong. Decision corrected after factual review (Huerta mistakenly said "on-field review" in her announcement, but she never went to the RRA).
ReplyDeleteVery difficult for AR2, but good to bring the flag with delay. Foul was clear so correct PK.
Delete*correcting myself here. I misheard the referee the first time. She indeed said “factual review” and not “on-field review.”
DeleteInteresting. Huerta de Aza blows for offside when a PK for careless tripping is committed. VAR checks that there's no offside, so Huerta de Aza points to the spot without checking in the monitor.
ReplyDeleteShe whistled penalty first, then changed the decision to offside. So no need to watch the monitor.
Delete76' I'm all for forgiving light contacts, but that looked a fairly strong push in the back to me, will be interesting how Fifa assess it. I'd like to have seen a penalty there
ReplyDeleteAlso an important question of inside/outside the box. It's very close to the line and we never got a surefire camera angle.
DeleteIf they have deemed that the foul itself was not clear and obvious, it must be very, very close to the clear and obvious threshold.
To me it looks like rather just outside the box from the angle provided, but need more to be completely sure. In UEFA competition I don't think the foul reaches clear and obvious treshold, but the bar is lower in FIFA games…
DeleteIt was outside so VAR can do nothing
DeleteAngle was poor for contact, gut was in but I very easily could have been mistaken. If it was out, then VAR correct but still a missed foul by the on field officials
DeleteAfter seeing it again on a bigger screen, contact clearly inside. Missed intervention by Hernandez Hernandez, both his and Huerta de Aza's tournaments should be over.
DeleteDefinite missed call by the Spanish referee, this was probably the only match this ref was going to get anyway though
ReplyDeleteNever a penalty
ReplyDelete92' Ha! In Uefa and England, there is no way the video assist is getting involved there. That being said, probably too soft for a penalty at this world cup
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the VAR intervention. At first I didn't like the penalty in real speed, but then when I watched it again, it showed what Huerta saw, the defender's arm struck the attacker in the head. It's on the softer side, but I would have thought it a supportable decision...
DeleteCorrect VAR intervention by Hernández Hernández, unfortunately Huerta de Aza's tournament as a main referee should end today.
ReplyDeleteDon’t think that’s unfortunate, she’s been pretty bad . Both Var decisions shouldn’t have to happen on obvious calls
DeleteWith Huerta de Aza likely being out of KO stage, is it possible that we see Porras Ayuso moved over to for example Olofsson's team? She is way to good of an AR to go home after GS imo
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteWhat about Rodjak-Karsic? She‘s such a great assistant referee.. would be a shame to send both female assistants home just cause of the poor performance of Huerta de Aza
DeleteNot seen as much from her tbh, but from what I have seen, I think she is also very good. Unfortunately made a mistake today with the offside before the penalty, but I would not regard that as a big one. Can see her staying as well if FIFA decides to do a shake-up of assistants before the KO stage
Delete90+8' Should be a penalty. The defender didn't touch the ball.
ReplyDeleteHuerta de Aza got 1 penalty decision right and 2 wrong (one after VAR, one which she should have decided on the pitch for penalty, and where the VAR was oddly passive...). Her charisma is great! But that decision-making is not good enough to go further.
ReplyDeleteSeveral key incidents here.
ReplyDelete90'+10' a very hard shoulder charge in China's penalty area. To me, debatable incident but definitely not a clear error. Comparisons can be made to the 76' incident, though this one was more shoulder and less back, despite having more force.
Then 90'+11' a possible holding/impeding foul by a Chinese defender. I think by the book it is impossible to argue against the claim that this is impeding with contact when not within playing distance of the ball; however, it's one of those things that is just never called.
Thank you to the Anonymous poster for also bringing my attention to 90'+8', I mean, the attacker doesn't go down but this is a pretty clear holding offense. To me, missed intervention by Hernandez Hernandez.
Delete(If I remember correctly, Haiti also was involved in the very rare incident of an OFR for a holding PK in one of their qualification playoff matches! Or maybe that was some other team).
One of the poorest performances so far. Underpunished clear SFP, deficient in foul detection and disciplinary, and for me, at least one missing and one wrong intervention by VAR...
ReplyDeleteI might be in minority about this one, but I genuinely can't find a reason for the VAR intervention to revoke the penalty awarded to Haiti. Just look at the impact between the defender's arm and the attacker head. Simply never a crucial mistake.
ReplyDeleteBelow-par foul selection, especially in crucial incidents (76' is a really, really clear foul in my view and 90+10 is a wrongly assessed ball clearance at the very least). Huerta de Aza simply has to be rejected by FIFA, I would be stunned if she gets another appointment as referee.
I feel bad for Huerta, because this game (even added time alone, maybe) had far more critical incidents than most of the other matches at this tournament! But there were just too many mistakes. Considering Lehtovaara got relegated to 4th Official for similar mistakes, I think we can expect the same fate to Huerta.
DeleteYamashita apointed 4th official at Melbourne.Is this a confirmed knockout stage? Or will it end in the group stage?
ReplyDeletePredictions for MD3 of Group B&C&D&E
ReplyDeleteGroup B
Canada vs Australia–Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
Ireland vs Nigeria–Katia García (MEX)
Group C
Japan vs Spain–Laura Fortunato (ARG)
Costa Rica vs Zambia–Kim Yu-jeong (KOR)
Group D
China vs England–Ekaterina Koroleva (USA)
Haiti vs Denmark–María Carvajal (CHI)
Group E
Portugal vs United States–Casey Reibelt (AUS)
Vietnam vs Netherlands–Emikar Calderas (VEN)
My predictions:
DeleteCAN-AUS: Frappart (FRA)
IRL-NIG: Koroleva (USA)
JPN-SPA: Carvajal (CHI)
CRC-ZAM: Calderas (VEN)
Evident RC missed by Huerta De Aza, good VAR intervention, it was expected.
ReplyDeleteWill watch the rest of incidents soon, but Smala is right when saying that there were many crucial situations, and some of them difficult to read. It doesn't happen in all games, so you can't say that another referee would have surely done better. This is refereeing, you must be ALSO lucky, but yes, taking alone the RC incident, is enough to say that she had to see it and this will probably cost the tournament. About the penalties, one can have still different views, but still,.. incidents can also be missing in a game.
ARG - RSA Reported incidents:
ReplyDelete31' Wrong offside flag, VAR correction and announement.
Very quick action but stopping the frame, evident ONSIDE. Should have been seen live.
https://streamable.com/svqq0q
An English mothertongue feels allowed to use different words.
19'
Foul - NO YC. Careless or reckless?
https://streamable.com/qnqehp
43'
YC for reckless challenge.
https://streamable.com/r8cy0v
Correct by itself, but if compared to previous situation...
52'
Possible second YC
https://streamable.com/iosz7x
I must say that based on last replay, indeed we can be (are?) in reckless area, putting the hand and making a certain pressure on face. Very often, we see soft cards for such kind of incident, in this case it would have suit, because player did that even deliberately (but still not violent act).
Some things definitely to be revieewd in this game, not the best performance, all about how much important will be for committee these incidents. Second game still possible.
China - Haiti RC full live sequence:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/abgfsb
The reason of the mistake by referee, assessing only a reckless challenge and missing the point of contact, can be in my opinion easily found in the unnecessary excessive backward movement. Had she stopped herself some seconds before, instead of going so far away, she would have spotted it. Of course you can't expect a SFP in all circumstances, but in this case in my opinion with a different positioning she could have easily issued the correct card. Even only a few steps backwards less than she did.
OFR is perfect regarding timing and understanding of the missed situation by referee once at the monitor, the key frame is shown (point of impact), then one decisive replay and nothing else to see, the RC is obvious, an Elite referee doesn't hesitate, all correct.
Then a comment about the crowd, quite mild reaction if compared to announcements about goals and penalties, some people reacted only after the shown RC instead of YC. I really dare to say that most of fans don't have the basic knowledge to understand what referee says in such circumstances :D especially terms like "Serious Foul Play". Emotions are only with goals and penalties...
You're wrong in your "assumption" about Huerta de Aza. I can 100% guarantee that even if she had the best unobstructed view of the challenge. She is not going straight Red Card. Don't forget that nowadays everything in the moment on the pitch is under punished. It's left up to VAR to actually make the hard/gutsy decisions. That's what FIFA wants and that's what these referees blindly go and do.
Delete- Cynical fouls that are by the book Yellow Cards are now just endless/meaningless hand gestures and talks.
- Fouls that in any other era would be no questions asked Red Cards are now just a Yellow Cards.
On the crowd, also worth noting there was a large Chinese support in the crowd, who, like the players, probably did not understand the announcement because they don’t speak much English.
DeleteI also feel bad for Huerta de Aza. I didn't watch the whole game but from what I saw it is clear to me that she had a tough game and I also think she took many correct decisions. Of course it is expected that an Elite referee gets the RC correct but regarding the penalty situations she was not that wrong. The one she initially gives is soft but in my eyes supportable and no stuff for VAR and the other appeals she waves correctly away. Time management was good and I also liked that dhe cautions the Haiti coach.
ReplyDeleteHonestly I saw poorer performances in this tournament in much easier games. Probably these were to many controversies now, but personally I would ulf like to see Huerta de Aza once more. Let's see.
She's mediocre at best, whose referee team required (4) VAR interventions. With how low the bar is currently set for these referees. I'm not surprised to see these types of disastrous performances. While women's football continues to grow by leaps and bounds. Most of these women referees have been surpassed by the level of play. Add in FIFA's ridiculous ideals on how a referee should perform and you've got a recipe for disaster.
Delete4 interventions? I thought there were only 3, the red card, the China penalty given, and the Haiti penalty overturned.
DeleteWhy are all of you piling on Huerta de Aza?
ReplyDeleteThe foul on the Red Card is the type of cynical foul that is trying to be normalized as a common foul with maybe a Yellow Card shown. Personally, I was quite surprised that VAR actually intervened.
When people say, "not enough", "too soft", "definitely not VAR stuff", "not enough force", etc. Then you are all part of the problem of which you then go and crucify the referee when he/she gets it wrong.
FIFA and its Referee Committee can talk until they're blue in the face about taking care of the players. But until the referees on the pitch actually show with it with actions. It's all talk, and talk is cheap. It's cheap in press conferences and it's cheap on the pitch. Because actions speak louder than words. But FIFA doesn't want its referees to take any actual meaningful actions on the pitch.
Still Haiti - China, the rest of the incidents
ReplyDelete72' VAR intervention to cancel an offside decision and confirming a penalty originally whistled by referee before changing to offside:
https://streamable.com/no50rc
76' Penalty appeal, no VAR intervention
https://streamable.com/q5a2an
In my opinion it was penalty and it looks inside. If in this case VAR didn't intervene because outside (but I don't thin so) I would find this announcement to fans by far more important than the other communication. For me this is a foul and should have been whistled.
90'+2 Revoked penalty after OFR
https://streamable.com/2b2g60
I agree that this shouldn't have been whistled, too soft and never a penalty, but at the same time I'm not 100% sure this was clear and obvious mistake as the defender made a certain action with arm on the shoulder. Surely play on is best decision, but strictly according to book, to me this wasn't VAR stuff. Common sense was added in decision making, but definitely penalty area's decisions are mostly grey areas, so this is what we have. Another VAR maybe wouldn't have intervened... what I can say about Huerta is that she maybe whistled too hurry this penalty, thinking about something definitely more serious.
90'+7 Possible penalty for holding
https://streamable.com/igzvbc
We must admire attacker's behavior here, she continued her action, but she was strongly and firmly held by opponent all time long. This didn't make referee notice about the infringment, and at the same time it is difficult for a VAR to intervene, but surely if UEFA keeps the battle against holdings, this one should have been a big call by Spanish crew. Many things to discuss, sometimes player must act unfairly to get penalties... and I think this is not good.
90'+10 Another possible penalty
https://streamable.com/dhr7w7
VAR allowed play on, in this case I agree. Definitely less penalty than the situation in 76' that remains as the "main one", in my opinion. In this case Huerta De Aza could have whistled, but no mandatory. Still maybe a slight perception of more penalty than nothing, but no more than that and close to 50-50.
90'+11
https://streamable.com/fwbj8m
Deliberate action by defender to impede opponent from reaching ball by taking position, very hard to see a penalty in such situations, OK play on for me.
So, an incredible game for Huerta de Aza, clearly we can't say that another referee would have done better (or worse). Can committee consider this? But for me etremely unlikely to see her in another game.
Summing up, for me important mistakes are:
1) Missed RC
2) Penalty in 76' if INSIDE, clear mistake and also VAR mistake
All the rest: one can discuss. But unlucky for the Spanish that all this happened in only one game.
Would be nice to have many opinions...
My opinions are above, but I messed the incident in 76'. Not good not to whistle at all there, it is expected that a UEFA elite sees this push and gives free kick/penalty kick. So my assessment is less positive than before but still I think the spagnard did not a bad job regarding the late penalty incidents.
DeleteEerily reminded me of Lindhout in FRAITA U21, an insane amount of crucial incidents to assess. Good presentation, but poor decision making.
DeleteIn my opinion, all of these penalty incidents above could actually be whistled. For every situation there are points to whistle a foul. But, I totally agree, that the most important "Mistakes" have been the missed red card, the missed push in 76min, and the VAR intervention in the 90+2 minute.
DeleteAll in all, both, VAR and Huerta, should be out. But I'm still hoping that both AR's will get a new referee (why not Martincic?)
@Quilava I also liked the presentation. Even with the controversies she leaves a professional impression. I also liked the management of the penalty that is finally given. She didn't hesitate for a second. Initially whistled and kept sure and confident about her assessment after the offside review.
DeleteYes indeed a pity for Huerta De Aza, I think she has been very unlucky at major tournaments, remember also EURO. All the referee should be tested with similar games for being fair in the assessment!
DeleteAbout assistant referees, Porras Ayuso excellent performances also at men's level, but the Croatian made this mistake before penalty, despite of her big experience. You can excuse her but it was borderline situation and she could have detected the ONSIDE. So maybe an argument to be considered.
She could have detected it, yes, but it was an incredibly close call and therefore not a mistake that should determine whether she can stay in the tournament. These are exactly the decisions for which the technical support was introduced.
DeleteIf FIFA wants to maintain confed neutrality and not give a referee a 2nd match only in R16 (not so small Ifs...), there are only three real options for UEFA referees (+ the unimportant CRC-ZAM), so those should go to Frappart, Welch and Staubli.
DeleteSo in this case, it would be hard to find a game for Huerta anyway (unless she directly gets CRCZAM) - and there is also Caputi as another UEFA option.
On the situations:
Delete90+2' shouldn't be a VAR intervention based on the normal line, we see for clear and obvious mistakes. We sometimes (e.g. in Bundesliga) get explanations for that like "crucial moment of the game" or "the referee wanted to see it again himself", so that could have been the reason here. I don't really like such arguments, because they lead to less consistency.
90+7' shouldn't be a VAR intervention as well IMO.
Yes, technically there is a foul, but it is quite far away from a situation, where everyone expects a penalty and therefore it certainly misses the "obvious" aspect.
On the rest, I agree with Chefren.
At least the explanation given by Huerta for the 90+2 incident was actually somewhat helpful (even though VAR intervention was still wrong for my taste)
DeleteWhat's wrong with this tournament organization?!?!?!
ReplyDeleteWhy are teams in Group A to playing their 3rd group stage matches before Germany and Colombia (Group H) play their 2nd group stage match?
While it's only a couple of hours that is quite strange
DeleteTime zones is the reason I think
DeleteAlso I think the broadcasters play an important role. A large country with a lot of money like Germany has a lot of influence regarding kick off times. A 11:30 kick off is more suitable for their audience than a 7 or 8 o'clock kick off
DeleteYep. Besides NZL and Western Australia being four hours apart you also had four match days to support the US playing at a good time for TV in North America. Plus the two opening day matches. A lot of variables have group H and A playing on the same day.
Delete🇻🇳 Vietnam vs Países Bajos 🇳🇱
ReplyDeleteA: Ivana Martincic 🇭🇷
A1: Sanja Rodak 🇭🇷
A2: Karolin Kaivoja 🇪🇪
4to: Iuliana Demestrescu 🇷🇴
🇨🇦 Canadá vs Australia 🇦🇺
A: Stephanie Frappart 🇫🇷
A1: Manuela Nicolosi 🇫🇷
A2: Elodie Coppola 🇫🇷
4to: Tess Olofsson 🇸🇪
🇮🇪 Irlanda vs Nigeria 🇳🇬
A: Katia Garcia 🇲🇽
A1: Karen Diaz Medina 🇲🇽
A2: Enedina Caudillo 🇲🇽
4to: Lina Lehtovaara 🇫🇮
🇯🇵 Japón vs España 🇪🇸
A: Ekaterina Koroleva 🇺🇸
A1: Kathryn Nesbitt 🇺🇸
A2: Felisha Mariscal 🇺🇸
4to: Myrian Marcotte 🇨🇦
🇨🇷 Costa Rica vs Zambia 🇿🇲
A: Bouchra Karboubi 🇲🇦
A1: Fatiha Jermoumi 🇲🇦
A2: Soukaina Hamdi 🇲🇦
4to: Kim Yujeong 🇰🇷
Wow, lots to discuss here.
DeleteMartincic comes “off the bench” to work a game that figures to be pretty one-sided on paper but is nevertheless important for qualification. And breaks confederational neutrality in the process.
Frappart with a predictable assignment, though I’m a little disappointed to see it tbh - her first game was actually poor, surprisingly. Nevertheless, if anyone has the body of work to warrant such a big appointment after a bad first match, it’s her.
Garcia’s game is pretty good, it should be competitive and it is surely important for qualification too. I didn’t watch her first game too closely, but FIFA must be satisfied with it.
Koroleva with a “big” but relatively unimportant matchup between two big teams who have already qualified. Curious to compare this to her compatriot Penso’s game, which is sort of the opposite: fairly small teams (with the caveat that one is a host nation) but very important for qualification.
And finally Karboubi on the dead rubber match. Very rare to see confederational neutrality broken with a CAF referee! Interesting that they chose to give this game to a referee who already had a whistle instead of debuting a “support referee” here. And it strikes me as different from, for example, Wilmer Roldan and Nawaf Shukralla’s dead rubber matches in 2018, which were essentially punishments for “bad” performances from referees with a lot of expectations (I strongly disagree that Shukralla’s POLvSEN was bad but that’s another debate); for Karboubi getting two games at all at this tournament must be seen as a success. Maybe others can weigh in, but this strikes me as even potentially a “developmental” appointment for her, to get her more experience at the WWC in preparation for the future, perhaps? She will get more out of this game than a confederationally-neutral referee would.
Oh, and Olofsson as 4th on the biggest game: I wonder if this is some rejection of her performance. Or perhaps they just didn’t have plans to use her going forward (or maybe they even still do) and just wanted a quality referee as fourth official on such a big game.
DeleteWorth noting also that Karboubi refereed the game that qualified Zambia to this Women’s World Cup!
DeleteYamashita and Olofsson with similar situations, both got 2 games and 1 as fourth official. For me it is a clear sign of a date in the next round for both.
DeleteI didn't expect to read Karboubi's name there, I never imagined it. It was more "reasonable" to place Martincic in CRC-ZAM and Karboubi in VIE-NED, if they wanted a game for both
DeleteSorry, I forgot Karboubi made USA-VIE
Deletemy mistake
Interesting choices!
ReplyDeleteBreaking confederation neutrality for a dead rubber match.
FIFA following Concacaf Gold Cup policy by assigning referees who started as fourth officials.