The appointments for Quarterfinals at 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup.
Match 57 (Wellington)
11 August 2023, 03:00 CETSPAIN - NETHERLANDS
Referee: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Manuela Nicolosi (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Elodie Coppola (FRA)
Fourth Official: Maria Sole Ferrieri Caputi (ITA)
Reserve AR : Francesca Di Monte (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Tatiana Guzman (NCA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
SBVAR : Abdulla Al Marri (QAT)
SBAVAR : Adil Zourak (MAR)
Assistant Referee 1: Katrin Rafalski (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Susanne Kueng (SUI)
Fourth Official: Katia Garcia (MEX)
Reserve AR : Karen Diaz Medina (MEX)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Drew Fischer (CAN)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Neuza Back (BRA)
SBVAR : Salomé Di Iorio (ARG)
SBAVAR : Daiane Muniz (BRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Manuela Nicolosi (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Elodie Coppola (FRA)
Fourth Official: Maria Sole Ferrieri Caputi (ITA)
Reserve AR : Francesca Di Monte (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Tatiana Guzman (NCA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Ella De Vries (BEL)
SBVAR : Abdulla Al Marri (QAT)
SBAVAR : Adil Zourak (MAR)
Match 58 (Auckland)
11 August 2023, 09:30 CET
JAPAN - SWEDEN
Referee: Esther Staubli (SUI)Assistant Referee 1: Katrin Rafalski (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Susanne Kueng (SUI)
Fourth Official: Katia Garcia (MEX)
Reserve AR : Karen Diaz Medina (MEX)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Drew Fischer (CAN)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Neuza Back (BRA)
SBVAR : Salomé Di Iorio (ARG)
SBAVAR : Daiane Muniz (BRA)
Match 59 (Brisbane)
12 August 2023, 09:00 CET
AUSTRALIA - FRANCE
Referee: Maria Carvajal (CHI)Assistant Referee 1: Leslie Vasquez (CHI)
Assistant Referee 2: Monica Amboya (ECU)
Fourth Official: Laura Fortunao (ARG)
Reserve AR : Daiana Milone (ARG)
Video Assistant Referee: Nicolas Gallo (COL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Soto (VEN)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Mariana De Almeida (ARG)
SBVAR : Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
SBAVAR : Alejandro José Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
Match 60 (Sydney)
12 August 2023, 12:30 CET
ENGLAND - COLOMBIA
Referee: Ekaterina Koroleva (USA) Assistant Referee 1: Kathryn Nesbitt (USA)
Assistant Referee 2: Felisha Mariscal (USA)
Fourth Official: Oh Hyeonjeon (KOR)
Reserve AR : Ramina Tsoi (KGZ)
Video Assistant Referee: Carol Anne Chenard (CAN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Armando Villarreal (USA)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Chantal Boudreau (CAN)
SBVAR : Muhammad Taqi (SIN)
SBAVAR : Pol van Boekel (NED)
Two more QF games, candidate is Monzul? Keighley? Olofson? Mukansanga?
ReplyDeleteVery unlikely for Mukansanga but consider that Frappart appointed in this stage, I can understand the base if Yamashita and Mukansanga will chosen by them.
DeleteYou can as she done the final 4 years ago
DeleteI think we can’t exclude Frappart for the final if France are out.
ReplyDeleteReally??? She did the finals 4 years ago!!! That’s the very first person you can exclude!!
DeleteThis is women world cup, if you include political and experience aspects still we can’t exclude her
DeleteIt will be very unjust if we don’t see Olofson again!!! Maybe she is definitely for a semi Final because appearing again in the quarter final would mean 3 UEFA officials at this stage which is very much unjust especially as I don’t see a need for Frappart!!
DeleteWith all respect to her experience and ability that much better than Bastien (for me she and Letexier are 2nd best referee in France now), still she is the ultimate tool to destroy the merit, we can’t forgot about her appointment in Super Cup and FIFA Men’s world cup, so why not appoint her again on the final if they can do that
Delete@Anonymous weather is Womens World Cup or children's World Cup, a referee cannot officiate a FIFA final back to back!! It’s impossible!! Very impossible!! There is no politics or no matter the talent you might have for that to happen!! I dare say she has better odds at even officiating the FIFA mens World Cup final than another womens World Cup final
Deleteit was paradox, I mean you can easily appoint Foster, Staubli, or Monzul for that game, do you think mentioned referee are worst than Frappart? Or do you think Frappart perform better than Koroleva/Penso/Fortunato/Carvajal that prevent them to get Japan-Sweden, both are huge clash but I don't see need to push Frappart to get final game, she already had complete achievement. We just have 6 games left, at least 1 game is already decide as give away (either for the co-host or CAF/AFC), so we have only 5 remaining and then still we have Foster, Monzul, Staubli, Koroleva/Penso, Fortunato, Keighley, and Carvajal that perform well, at least and I don't see (again) any reason to push Frappart, except it was her last game as international referee.
DeleteThe first observation is about Olofsson, let's see whether she will appear in a Quarterfinal, but I think that the Swedish national team made things complicated for her. Nevertheless, FIFA could have appointed her before, in a Round of 16 game.
ReplyDeleteFrappart gets another game, we can surely say that among some other things there is a lack of options because otherwise you would have many other referees.
No AFC after Yamashita, no CAF at all in KO stage.
At moment, before final, appointments seem over for CONCACAF as well.
We can maybe say:
QUARTERFINALS
Olofsson, Fortunato / Carvajal
SEMIFINALS
Monzul, Fortunato / Carvajal
The only reason is political background and favoritism, if we applied same condition the game Spain vs Netherlands, we have Alves, Penso, Welch, and Foster and we still have Staubli, Monzul, and Koroleva. For the sake of merit and neutrality IMO that game should be for Staubli/Foster and JPN-SWE is for one of the rest mentioned it.
DeleteNo AFC VARs in KO stage continues: Irrati and Guzman among the most trusted. We will see UEFA and maybe CONMEBOL VARs in the other 4 games, I think. Sorry to say, but the difference between the VARs from such confederations and the others is simply abysmal.
ReplyDeleteTatiana Guzman the only who distinguished herself, but not the others outside UEFA and CONMEBOL.
Drew Fischer from Canada must be mentioned as well. He was VAR in WC semifinal after all.
DeleteKoroleva, Fortunato, Monzul and Olofsson all with 2 games in knockouts and haven’t been 4th officials in knockouts so I expect them all to have games with maybe one more repeat or possibly 2 repeats with 1 of the 4 left out.
ReplyDeleteFinal is likely Penso or Jacewicz
*2 games in group stage
DeleteThey just love Frappart don't they. An extra game for her while other good officials miss out.
ReplyDeleteShe gets a extra game for a reason she is a good referee. Maybe be her last if france get through
DeleteMy prediction
ReplyDelete6 games left
Alves,Monzul,olofsson,Jacewicz,Yamashita,penso
Monzul and Jacewicz should be on the plane home.Monzul only gets appointed because of politics and is a very poor referee and Jacewicz has been too lenient and has allowed games to get away from her
DeleteCollina must step down, this is very poor arrangement and lack of integrity and independency
ReplyDeleteI’m sure he’ll get right on that.
DeletePrediction
ReplyDeleteQF:
AUS-FRA: Koroleva
ENG-COL: Yamashita
SF-F (depending on teams)
Monzul
Penso
Alves Batista
3rd place game
Jacewicz
I think this is right, with two possible (or even likely) exceptions.
DeleteFirst, I could see Keighley or Mukansanga slotting in on the playoff. In fact, I'd expect Mukansanga. Saves everyone a lot of face and is politically advantageous.
Second, I wouldn't slot Penso in on the semifinal or final right away. Don't get me wrong, she is better than Koroleva on most given days. But Koroleva has more of a reputation within FIFA, has the better trio, and hasn't done anything wrong. If Koroleva works a QF and does well, then I could see Koroleva working twice. It's ALSO possible that Koroleva is just held for a semifinal (a la Cunha and Orsato) and that a CONMEBOL referee (Carvajal?) gets AUS-FRA. After all, it will be weird if only one South American referee works the final 16 matches--even if that referee gets to work twice. Regardless, I wouldn't discern Penso's appointment in the R16 as meaning she is viewed as the top American--rightly or wrongly. FIFA might have just wanted to reward her and it was seen as a safe R16 match to do it on. And that would make a lot of sense if you were also expecting the USWNT to advance further than the R16.
So Carvajal did get that last possible QF and Koroleva just stayed on the QFs, too. Still think this is all going to largely check out and the final 3 referees are Alves-Monzul-[best USA referee of the two] in some combination. Mukansanga for 3/4.
DeletePretty unlucky for the two US refs to have five matches at the World Cup and be written off for late stage matches because they were all too easy.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure there's no other possible explanation of how all of these easy matches stayed under control...
Meanwhile we now return to your regularly scheduled CONCACAF bashing.
I really don’t know why people keep saying there is bias or ‘CONCACAF bashing’ on here. There have been lots of varied comments on here. I, for one, have said how well a number of officials have done and (even with Collina!!) it’s surely a non-uefa turn, with lots of good performances. USA in particular has a longer tradition in women’s football and both US refs did very well imo. I think Keighley is an excellent referee, with lots of experience and good performances. The Japanese referee is obviously well liked, if slightly over-rated for me. If uefa do get it again, I think Olafsson or Foster. I’m a bit fed up with Frappart appointments - she’s not stood out and fifa is never going to develop new talents if you keep obsessing over one referee who, frankly, has had her turn - lots of refs have had good performances and are available and should not be overlooked.
Delete+ Politically though, CONMEBOL has perhaps more sway. Not as big a tradition in women’s football as USA, but have had two very strong performers in Carvajal and Fortuna. They equally have a chance and definitely deserve a KO game somewhere, more than Alves did.
DeleteI am highly surprised at the fact that most of you repeat the same names over and over. But very few of you are mentioning Cheryl Foster. If there has been a UEFA referee that has done very well (better than her UEFA counterparts) and is deserving of more. It's her.
ReplyDeleteSeeing Frappart's name again, in all honesty, makes me want to vomit. At this point, just give her every single effin' match and have the rest of the referee's act as her support crew.
Frappart is the best women referee ever!!! when another women referee work half than she… you can speak! this is a fact and the trust that comite have on her is based on all she show until now. just accept the true
Deletei agree! its not fair to see Frappart all the time, even if she is great and expirienced. But she comes from a country that is very privileged and that lets women work in that job! Ivana Martincic would be great too but she doesnt get the support from her country. Give her games, let her gain expirience! im sure on the way there she would already lead games really well!
DeleteI also hope Foster gets another game. Unfortunately I feel the fact that she haven't been tested could rule her out even though that would not be very fair on her. Maybe FIFA rate Frappart's experience highly and feel that just a few games below par, but certainly not terrible, should prevent her from get the big games, but that is not really fair on the other referees that are here and have put in better performances than her, and also considering Frappart already have done the final, I don't think she would be devasted if FIFA decided to give those games to other referees
DeleteIn regard to the comment that Frappart is the best ever, Kari Seitz might have something to say about that. Officiated in four World Cups and four Olympic tournaments. Worked in MLS 20 years ago. Reason she never got a final is because the US was always playing. I’m fine with an argument that refereeing in Europe now is more difficult than refereeing in US 20 years ago, but Seitz was limited in her time by attitudes toward women and by the success of the US Women’s team. Just saying it is in no way obvious that Frappart is the best ever.
DeleteFirst of all, Seitz had 3 Olympics (not 4) and in 1 World Cup she was just a 4th official. Nonetheless, impressive career. However, when referring to best, I think we should not forget the Swiss woman Nicole Petignat, who in my opinion has been the best woman referee ever. She was passing the men's fitness test, refereeing in the top men's national league for many years, got even UEFA men's games. In an era exactly opposite than the one we are in now...not only women referees were not pushed like now, but they were not even getting the same opportunities or judgement. The football ties were against them with the mentality that women should do their own business only...
DeleteI’ve no problem with your support for Petignat. It’s definitely well supported. My point was only that it’s not a given that Frappart is obviously the best ever. I feel like there are arguments for Seitz, Petignat, Frappart, and possibly even Yamashita. I generally shy away from these arguments because there is almost never an obvious right answer, I respect them all for what they have done. Having worked regularly with one of the first female FIFA officials in the USA, I have an appreciation for what they went through in the old days. And I’m really glad to see the support they get now.
Delete28' link is wrong
ReplyDeletenever mind, fixed now, thanks for these!
DeleteBoth big North-American teams of USA and Canada are out, while they have 3 referees there. American Seitz is also the boss of women refereeing. There is absolutely no way that none of them will get a further match.
ReplyDeleteMunzul for SF Or Final.
ReplyDeleteShe did the final in 2015 so impossible that she get's it again, however I would expect her in one of the two SFs
DeleteAgree with you.
ReplyDeleteI think a referee of AFC or CONMEBOL or CONCACAF
Delete@ Ahmed Aderdour (or anyone else): Any news of which referees were released after the Round of 16?
ReplyDeleteMy predictions for the next two games
ReplyDeleteAUS-FRA: Carvajal, Vazquez (CHI), Emboya (ECU), Karboubi (MAR) - Muniz (BRA), Soto (VEN), Jermoumi (MAR)
ENG-COL: Koroleva, Nesbitt, Mariscal (all USA), Mukansanga (RWA) - Fischer (CAN), Villareal (USA), Caudillo (MEX)
I know it shouldn’t be related, but given that Colombia has really attracted the support of their country, I cannot see an American ref do England - Colombia after the Geiger disaster. What happened to Beaudoin, why is she no longer considered?
Delete5 years later how many non ref nerds would even piece something like that together.
DeleteThe media would piece it together instanteously. Particularly given the British involved on one side.
DeleteI kind of want it to happen. But I also think it's not in Koroleva's best interests.
Philipp S your predictions is correct 👍👍
DeleteThis tournament reeks of unprofessionalism and favoritism, enough is enough. Colina should resign
ReplyDeleteI agree!
DeleteDon't forget the corruption in FIFA ,Collina is probably working with his hands tied because of the dodgy politics within the organisation.
ReplyDeleteWould you for once stop with idiotic comments about Collina resignation an corruption in FIFA etc. It is obvious that for some people here this is the first world cup . In every male and female World cup appointments were made as in this one, there were always referees who were protected and receieved appointments no matter what and on the other hand there were referees who received no further appointments despite their good performances, this is nothing new. Furthermore, appointments are not made individualy by Collina or Seitz but the entire Referees Committee (although Collina and Seitz probably have the final world). All in all, appointments policy in this World cup is nothing new.
ReplyDeleteAny info reported by national FAs about referees returning home after R16?
ReplyDeletePredictions:
ReplyDeleteAus-Fra Kateryna Monzul
Colombia - England Koroleva
Eng -Fra Fortunato
Jap - Esp Olofsson
Esp - Eng Penso
3rd place - Jacewicz
Penso Fortunato have to lead one of the matches in SF or Final also Keighley.
ReplyDeleteIts important for the referees worldwide that we not only Europeanen referees to referee the finale stages.
Staubli deserve a match in QF. Very good referee!
Cüneyt Çakır new head of Georgian referees.
ReplyDeletehttps://gff.ge/ge/media/news/25302
David Fernández Borbalán with the same role in Bulgaria.
https://bulgaria.postsen.com/sports/243339/Official-A-referee-from-La-Liga-is-the-new-head-of-referees-%E2%80%93-BG-football.html
Here we go, expected promotion for Kruashvili and especially Kabakov (IMO he’s very good referee)
DeleteCity x Sevilha
ReplyDeleteArtur Dias
Paulo Soares
Pedro Ribeiro
VAR Tiago Martins
Australia - France
ReplyDeleteReferee: Maria Belen Carvajal (CHI)
Assistant Referee 1: Leslie Vasquez (CHI)
Assistant Referee 2: Monica Amboya (ECU)
Fourth Official: Laura Fortunato (ARG)
Reserve AR : Daiana Milone (ARG)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Nicolas Gallo (COL)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Juan Soto (VEN)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Mariana De Almeida (ARG)
SBVAR : Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
SBAVAR : Alejandro José Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
Koroleva and Carvajal for the 2 last QF
ReplyDelete🏴 Inglaterra vs Colombia 🇨🇴
ReplyDeleteA: Ekaterina Koroleva🇺🇸
A1: Kathryn Nesbitt🇺🇸
A2: Felisha Mariscal🇺🇸
4ta: Oh Hyeonjeong🇰🇷
5t: Ramina Tsoi🇰🇬
VAR: Carol Anne Chenard🇨🇦
AVAR: Armando Villarreal🇺🇸
OVAR: Chantal Boudreau🇨🇦
SBVAR: Muhammad Bin Jahari🇸🇬
SBAVAR: Pol van Boekel🇳🇱
🇦🇺 Australia vs Francia 🇫🇷
A: Maria Carvajal 🇨🇱
A1: Leslie Vasquez 🇨🇱
A2: Monica Amboya 🇪🇨
4ta: Laura Fortunato 🇦🇷
5ta: Daiana Milone 🇦🇷
VAR: Nicolas Gallo 🇨🇴
AVAR: Juan Soto 🇻🇪
OVAR: Mariana De Almeida 🇦🇷
SBVAR: Juan Martinez 🇪🇸
SBAVAR: Alejandro Hernandez 🇪🇸
England - Colombia
ReplyDeleteReferee: Ekaterina Koroleva (USA)
Assistant Referee 1: Kathryn Nesbitt (USA)
Assistant Referee 2: Felisha Mariscal (USA)
Fourth Official: Oh Hyeonjeong (KOR)
Reserve AR : Ramina Tsoi (KGZ)
Vidéo Assistant Referee: Carol Anne Chenard (CAN)
Assistant Vidéo Assistant Referee: Armando Villarreal (USA)
Offside Vidéo Assistant Referee: Chantal Boudreau (CAN)
SBVAR : Muhammad Taqi Jahari (SIN)
SBAVAR : Pol Van Boekel (NED)
SF Monzul, Olofsson or Yamashita
ReplyDelete3rd Jacewicz
F Alves
Depends on match result…
So it seems quite unlikely for Fortunato to get the final?
ReplyDeleteImpossible
DeleteShe has been appointed as fourth official, in such cases, it is unlikely to see the official appointed for a next stage as main referee.
DeleteWould be strange if one of the Americans gets the final because that would mean England would get to the final and have 3 Americans in the knockout stage
ReplyDeleteKoroleva is their first...
DeleteAfter these appointments, the next sure choice is Monzul for a semifinal. Maybe Olofsson if Sweden will be eliminated, but less likely than the Ukrainian.
ReplyDeleteAlves Batista, despite of having been not so busy to he bonest, stays as candidate for the final, Yamashita as well.
Didn't expect Koroleva after Penso, but thinking about Nesbitt, the AR who attended Men's WC, maybe one could have guessed that this was the "most ranked" US trio among the two? Or maybe this isn't an argument at all? What do you think?
American trio was chosen QF because they were better as assistant referees than referees.
DeleteI am not sure regarding Monzul and Olofsson. They are without game for so long (yes, I remember Cunha 2018...) and it's also quite possible that Foster, Staubli or Welch get the remaining UEFA appointment(s). If it's not simply Staubli in all cases, it also depends on the progress of SWE and/or ENG, of course.
DeleteRegarding the Americans, I think, their status is quite similar and as both performed well (and better than e.g. Beadoin), it was logical, that they both get games. The elimination of their national team maybe also helped, although their actual games are independent of that.
After Borjas' performance, they should also be the first CONCACAF candidates for a further game - probably rather Penso, if it's a SF. And Koroleva can apply for the final in ENGCOL, if not everything is already planned until the end.
However it's also possible that CONCACAF stays with 3 KO games and it is Alves, Yamashita + UEFA in the last 3 games.
There's no guessing. I've been saying forever that Koroleva's trio has more credibility with FIFA but that Penso is the better referee. Penso earned a knockout match the hard way. And Koroleva didn't do anything wrong to lose the opportunity. Once you saw Penso's performances, I think each one of them getting a KO match was a guarantee.
DeleteNow, with the US eliminated... the question is whether one of them earns a second KO match and, if so, which one it is.
I want a referee other than UEFA to be in charge of the final.
ReplyDeleteI could see it being Jacewicz or Penso for the final
DeleteI want the best referee in the final. I dont care where they come from...
DeleteThat’s the right sentiment but a bit naive as we know the way FIFA operates
DeleteI think we can easily predict that Chenard and/or Guzman will serve as VMOs on the final regardless who will be in the middle on the final.
ReplyDelete+1 it will be a full female VMO crew
DeleteI mean, Alves has a Brazilian female VAR with her...
DeleteThat said, I don't think this is the open and shut case some might believe. There are no real "optics" of having a female VAR; at least not to the extent that they exist for the on-field officials.
I'm sure FIFA would prefer a female VMO crew. But Guzman doesn't have great mastery of English and from what I've seen in MLS, Chenard is prone to some rather big gaffes. You could end up with one of the bigger male names in the main VAR role solely because it's the best thing for the game.
Completely no CAF again.
ReplyDeleteSurprising, that Gallo works as VAR with COL in the QF, that AUS/FRA meet in the SF.
That’s so avoidable…
DeleteNo CAF appointments for R16 and QF
DeleteI think 3rd place for Mukansanga ? Or maybe not
Predictions:
ReplyDeleteSF #1: Frappart
SF #2: Frappart
3d Place: Frappart
Final: Frappart
If FIFA wants to give everything to Frappart because all other referees can't compare to the greatness of the Frenchwoman. They should stop messing around, go all in, and give it all to her.
I think Frappart is out after the QF
ReplyDeleteI hope. This tournament many other referees did much much better. Then we can see. Nobody is the best. All referee are in a good level.
DeleteFifa just announced only a 2 match ban for the English player James for a deliberate stamp on the Nigerian player. Absolutely shocking!
ReplyDeleteIt was more of a step on rather than a violent stamp 2 seems about right
DeleteReally? Is that a violent conduct or not? What is the standard punishment for a violent conduct? A double standard
DeleteSo Borjas was right to only have shown yellow. I mean if it was only “a step”. And if the FIFA disciplinary committee wasn’t going to punished for what it really is.
DeleteStill no info about the first referee release?
ReplyDeleteThe support referees plus Lehtovaara, Martincic and Huerta.
DeleteKarboubi for the final
ReplyDeleteI wish her , but I don't think
DeleteWeird that Olofsson didnt get any game in r16 or quarterfinal. She did 2 good games in the Group stage
ReplyDeleteI feel that too many of you erroneously continue to have faith in and trust the FIFA Referee Committee. Even though they have continuously disappointed you. I personally am no longer shocked or amazed by their ineptitude, favoritism, and nepotism. Since Busacca stepped into the role and now with Collina. The bar has been set so low, that it’s impossible to actually expect more from the Referee Committee. It’s quite sad really. But it’s the world we live in.
Delete+1 they are just so poor. They were good on the field but out of it, just really abysmal. Nothing is exciting again.
DeleteJust waiting for a Frappart final so that everyone knows Collina is a total fraud
ReplyDeleteWe don't need Frappart in another Final to see him for what he is. Some of us already know and accept that.
DeleteIt's sad that those who were pillars of correctness and righteousness on the pitch as referees. Go on to sell out and become corporate shills.
Huh? What gibberish!
ReplyDelete34' Correct YC for ESP #12, reckless challenge
ReplyDeleteForgot to put my name in :p
DeleteNow goal cancelled after missed flag by AR1, I think it could've been spotted live but still wasn't the easiest of decisions
Delete37' I think AR1 will be disappointed to have not given that offside live
ReplyDeleteNot the best of days for the ARs, wrong flag by AR2 even though the attack didn't lead to anything
ReplyDeleteLet's calm down with the Frappart hate a little bit. Yes, I agree that she didn't deserve this QF, maybe not even her R16-game, however we have to be impartial and judge the performances for what they are. I think her performance today is better than the previous three, but she still lacks a bit in foul detection as she always have imo
DeleteIf the Referee Committee has shown to be unable to properly evaluate and judge their referees. Why should we be any different?
DeleteSo far this is match is a "Cheryl Foster". It's been EASY. With only one team trying to win. While the other is afraid to lose and has chosen not to play up to their level.
I won't applaud her cautioning of the Spanish player. Any halfway decent gives that card 10 out or 10 times. I mean, it was so obvious that her not showing yellow would have been farcical. However, her decision to try to play advantage was poor. As the Dutch player wasn't in any sort of advantageous position.
Clear and obvious mistake, huh? Good to know one can body check a player without punishment now….
ReplyDeleteI was certain that the review was for DOGSO, but it was actually to cancel the penalty, such a terrible decision, I would even call penalty correct in that situation
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly. Unbelievable OFR. It's a clear penalty. The only question is the color of the card.
DeleteI think it's safe to say that FIFA was very happy with the review in ENG-NGA, otherwise there's no way this would have been sent down!
I mean Villarreal got another assignment. Enough said.
DeleteI think an OFR for DOGSO would also be wrong in this situation, for me the touch by NED player is too heavy and the goalkeeper would be first to the ball even if the push doesn't happen
DeleteI was perplexed by this OFR too, absolutely wrong one for me. IMO, it also goes against the whole doctrine of using VAR.
Delete63' Correct decision by Frappart no penalty after review
ReplyDeleteEveryone Lopes their mine over Frappart reversal of penalty kick in 3, 2, 1….
ReplyDeleteDamn spell check.
DeleteFrappart always has many VAR reviews but keeps getting assigned big matches. Make it make sense Collina
ReplyDeleteThis OFR is absolutely mandatory but I think there will be a lot of complaints after the game from the NED camp, rightfully so…
ReplyDeleteIf this result stands of course
DeleteI can understand getting it wrong whether the handball is inside or outside the PA live but to not call that handball at all live and have to rely on VAR to bail you out is bad imo.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it is a clear handball that should really be seen live. I can understand how, given Frappart's angle, there could have been an optical illusion that it hit the chest instead. But in this case, teamwork is needed from the AR as well. Pretty bad miss on the field. At least the review was efficient.
DeleteI agree, a very bad miss, especially by the AR. A penalty that has to be called live for my taste.
DeleteDidn't she have a similar moment with VAR in the 2019 WWC final?
DeleteOT:
ReplyDeleteLucila Venegas has been the "referee expert" on the Spanish broadcast in the US. Needless to say, she's been worthless and has done more bad than good. She's spent most the time being a referee apologist. Always siding with the referees or making up excuses. Unwilling to say anything that could possibly indicate that the referee actually committed an error.
Horacio Elizondo has definitely been much better in the past few men's World Cup with this same broadcaster. Unafraid to speak his mind on the telecast. Heaping praise on those that deserved it. While openly criticizing and critiquing those who were bad.
Why have Assistant Referee's? If they're unwilling or unable to make calls other than offside, throw in, goal kick, and corner kick.
ReplyDeleteFor a FIFA level referee and a FIFA level AR to miss such blatant and obvious handling is so poor.
I hope UEFA is watching too. After this match they should absolutely reconsider her ability to arbitrate any substantial match. She absolutely has a shocker. How the nl penalty gets revoked after ofr is a total joke to me. partially biased as im dutch but still, its never a crucial mistake to me to give the penal and YC. Then she misses the hand by vd gracht. Seems like she is totally blind today.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't new. She's had performances just like this or worse in the past. But she continues to get a pass from everybody. There is absolutely zero accountability in regard to Frappart and her crew.
DeleteThis might be the worst refereeing performance in the knockout stage
ReplyDeleteNow at least 30 minutes more but all I can say is what an absolute s**tshow this performance have been, Frappart, ARs, VAR all below the level required. This is why you have to appoint referees on form and not just on old merits
ReplyDeleteAssistant referees can’t even get their flag signals straight. In extra time AR2 tried to signal for a Spain throw in after a Spain player played the ball out with no NED players in sight. This better be the end for the Frappert crew. Very poor job this evening. This incident just tops it all off.
ReplyDeleteI can't say I'm happty that Frappart had this performance because I'm always in favor of referees, but today must be a learned lesson by FIFA, it was clear that she didn't deserve this game after the previous performances.
ReplyDeleteNevertheless, if they still think she is the best despite of such performance and the others would have made even worse, well, it's a different speech, but I definitely don't think so.
If you replace FIFA with UEFA the same speech applies. Dont want to see a ref fail but if some refs show that they are not there based on their abilities but only because of their background (eg being rosettis favorite or italian) i wont be unhappy
DeleteIt’s not a perfect game, but the people posting like Frappart is walking around the pitch without a clue are ridiculous. I figure this was going to be her last game to begin with, so if she doesn’t get another game, i don’t think it’s a reflection on this performance.
ReplyDeleteThe reversal on the YC and PK wasn’t a clear and obvious error. In the moment, when she didn’t call it immediately, I figure she got talked into by her AR, but im not privy to that communication, so I really don’t know. But she called it. There was a foul there, but I think you have ten officials at that level and as many as 3-4 call it in the moment. The rest don’t. It falls under the category of there really isn’t enough evidence to overturn it either way. I don’t know if I would have called it on the field, but in review, without VAR training and instruction from FIFA at the tournament, I’d like to think I confirm the call made. The review did seem to confirm her first instincts.
The handball should have been called, but I don’t know what her angle on it was,
An NBA official once said he rarely sees an official have a bad game. They sometimes have a bad two minutes here and there. This performance by Frappart reminds me of that. She’s a good official. Most of what she’s done this game is right. This isn’t someone from the rec leagues working a World Cup quarterfinal. Just had a few moments she’d probably like to have back. And they were reviewed and the decision made, so no harm. If you are angry over it, I don’t know what to say to you.
Try again.
DeleteYeah, I am not puckering up and kissing her *** just because it's Frappart. I'll leave that to you.
DeleteYou lost all credibility when you said NBA and bad game.
DeleteThe things she should have got right she got wrong! To me that means that today she didnt do her job. So try again to be the Frappart apologist
DeleteYou never had a game where you were less "in" with some unclear calls ? you career was short so that and maybe not at top level. A less less successful does not question all your abilities and previous achievments.
DeleteShe made so many that even some ici never reached...so you can criticize technically today's performance...it's a good thing but one performance even fail does not challenge a successful career.
So stop criticizing ref who ever he/she is...just performance
Jealousy never makes other to success. She deserves to be here...now she's human and can be less efficient one match. Does it challenge final score and equity ?
she is trusted by FIFA and UEFA so i trust her. Committee must make choices so let's trust them even if you would make others choices if one day you are in committee.
Hi from Wellington NZ, what do you think of our stadium
ReplyDeleteIt seems nice. As do all the other venues. They all have grass pitches and that's a huge positive. Canada forcing the women to play on plastic was a disgrace.
DeleteIs it supposed to be an athletics track around, because otherwise I don't understand why the stands has to be so far away from the pitch
DeleteIts also used for Cricket in the summer, hence the round shape. Having it for Football & Rugby would limit it's use & reduce the revenue they can generate.
DeleteAh of course
DeleteYou mean the "cake tin"?
ReplyDeleteOT: We have a new (huge) documentary about (German) referees, giving insight in the match communication also. Have not watched the five episodes yet, but it could be comparable to the 2009 UEFA documentary of EURO.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ardmediathek.de/serie/deutschlands-elite-schiedsrichter/staffel-1/Y3JpZDovL2Rhc2Vyc3RlLmRlL3VucGFydGVpaXNjaA/1
Maybe not watchable outside Germany and in German, but you surely find your ways… ;-)
Thanks for sharing! Indeed to able to watch it outside of germany, but normally sportschau productions are uploaded to youtube and as you say, I think the interested ones find their ways to watch it...
DeleteGood luck for Staubli and her team!
ReplyDeleteBig game for Staubli. If all goes well, her next game deserves to be the final.
ReplyDeleteOnly seen approx 30 mins or so, but looking like she is having a good game.
DeleteGood game for her
DeleteVery harsh penalty, "Italian" handball penalty for me, but I do like the fact that we get a reason with the announcement, it's clear why she decided to give it unlike other OFR-decisions this tournament
ReplyDeleteI'm with you. Extremely harsh. Arm is in a natural position for jumping. We are seeing these handballs given more and more now, but I hate it.
DeleteLooks like Staubli‘s not to happy about it, neither. But she knows that she has to give it by the books.
DeleteGreat explanation by Staubli after OFR, very hard to detect live but clear on replay
ReplyDeleteyes, this is how the explanations make sense...for me the question is just: is this a punishable handball^^ but okay, arm is away from the body, arm is in position already before the ball is there, those are components for unnaturally bigger...i can live with the ofr...positioning during corner was not optimal...a swedish attacker just ran in her line of vision...
DeleteUtterly ridiculous handball decision
ReplyDeleteI'm not very hapoy with the fact that handballs like this one are punished but explanation after OFR was very clear by Staubli and the whole VAR process was fastly and well executed, also well done to Irrati therefor.
ReplyDelete(Very) unrelated question: why was Sandra Braz Bastos (POR) sent to the Copa America? It's an exchange that should allow you to adapt more easily to different conditions, which would be a great experience to have at the World Cup. However, she's 45 now so this World Cup was probably her last possible tournament, but she wasn't selected. So why was she given the exchange, instead of someone who could have used this experience this tournament? Because of this, she has never been a referee at the EURO's either. Very interesting question with the current knowledge in my opinion
ReplyDeletehttps://streamin.me/v/0b58e2da
ReplyDeleteThe arms are very open and also moving, player is jumping yes, but that's a clear enlargment of body's volume. It is harsh, but again, my idea is that if you don't give such penalties, you can justify almost all handballs. It must be whistled for consistency.
Nevertheless, it is surely a problem that will be never solved: having different decisions based on who works at monitor, maybe another VAR woldn't have called it. So one could wonder: what is the sense of having VAR for penalty area incidents? Almost never objective stuff... and all people disagree, VAR has not been introduced for that... in my opinion somehing must change.
I know it’s a penalty according to “the rules”, however this is unintentional, bounced on her hand from a very close distance. Nothing the defender can do to avoid the contact, therefore “cheap”. They really need to change the handball rule…
DeleteChefren can you please please get a video where she explains why she gives the penalty after OFR, everyone is saying it was very good communication
Delete@11:08 It’s not a penalty according to the rules either. That’s not unnaturally bigger. If anything it’s as natural as it can be. Unnatural would be tuckning in both arms.
DeleteThey don’t need to change the rule. They need to change the referees knowledge of what natural means.
now clear tripping penalty for japan, wells spotted on the field by staubli...
ReplyDeleteWhere is the tripping? I don't see it. Correct by VAR to support due to the arm on the shoulder, but still very soft
DeleteThere is contact, but it has almost no effect on the attacker, who waits a step before letting herself go and falling to the ground.
DeleteYeah, I saw the little trip on the foot now watching it in very slow speed. Absolutely supportable penalty by Staubli, I think she's been very good both tonight and in the tournament overall
DeleteDouble touch by penalty taker well spotted by Staubli.
ReplyDeleteEsther Staubli movements, positioning and reading of the game is giving her accurate spot on decisions!
ReplyDeleteTop class refereeing from her!
Spotting the double touch is always something that makes the difference, I saw top ranked officials missing the infringment. This was very good alertness by Swiss referee. You can clearly see that, despite of a VAR intervention for handball, the performance is surely good.
ReplyDeleteI think it was more of her assistant because she delayed so much and was about to give a goal kick or maybe they where confirming the goalkeeper had not touch the ball which would have canceled the double touch!! All in all good spot!
DeleteLooke like Olofsson will not handle any game in KO stage due to Sweden. Poor management by committee, she would have deserved an appearance. Now we will have Monzul in semifinal and the other referee is very difficult to guess.
ReplyDeleteWe could see Yamashita if she isn’t planned for the final Moreso as Japan is out!
DeleteThe names left for the other semi-final and the final are, in my opinion, Yamashita, Batista, Penso and Jacewicz (dependent on Australia, of course). Staubli has been great, but I can't see an UEFA official getting the final again
DeleteIs Rebbeca Welch still at World Cup?
DeletePersonally I'd like to see Keighley get another game, but of course politics will probably prevent that.
DeleteSpot on performance by Staubli and her crew in a difficult and close game. Missed handball penalty is difficult to spot in live (speed). Her presence and alertness distinguish her from a lot of what we‘ve seen this WC so far. For me clearly the No. 1 candidate for the final. Also because this likely is her last WC.
ReplyDeleteEverything is dependent on how FIFA judges the key penalty incidents. My view is that neither was a penalty! But I think FIFA will support the handball at least. The second one is more interesting... it's very, very soft.
DeleteI agree, Staubli should be no1 for the final however FIFA cannot take the political backlash of appointing UEFA officials to four finals in a row. It will be between the referees named by @anonymous 11:46 in a reply above
ReplyDeleteMaybe, Yamashita will apointed for SF ofr Final.
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