Thursday, 24 September 2020

Anthony Taylor in charge of 2020 UEFA Super Cup: Bayern München - Sevilla (Discussion)

Anthony Taylor in charge of 2020 UEFA Super Cup: let's discuss his performance here! 


2020 UEFA Super Cup
24/09/2020 21:00 CET, Puskás Aréna , Budapest (HUN)
FC Bayern München (GER) - Sevilla FC (ESP)
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Orel Grinfeld (ISR) 
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Milovan Đukanović (MNE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
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  1. Anthony24 September 2020 at 13:48

    Most of readers here has been discussed about Taylor performance at FA cup and his ability to handle a final. Yes it's true it was not a good match by him but that doesn't mean that he can't. Doesn't mean that Anthony it's not capable to referee a final. This year he has been most consistent referee with very good performance. IMO its very well deserved and good luck to Anthony and his team.
    PS: not real Anthony :p

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    1. Ref Fot24 September 2020 at 19:06

      Nobody say that Anthony can not handle the final. But, his questionable performance in Fa cup final made as dobutful. But Anthony for sure will be Cl final ref until the end of his career. Good luck for him tonight, also to his team.

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  3. RefSoccer341224 September 2020 at 21:11

    Penalty to Sevilla by Anthony Taylor 11'

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  4. Chefren24 September 2020 at 21:12

    What do you think about this penalty call by Taylor?
    Surely supportable, but would you have whistled it?

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    1. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 21:13

      Way to soft for a European final

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    2. fednik24 September 2020 at 21:14

      I think it is a penalty. Apart from the fact that Taylor’s positioning was the best possible, Alaba goes straight to Rakitic’s body, never challenging for the ball ‘cause he’s really late. But that’s just my opinion

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    3. Marco24 September 2020 at 21:14

      AT first glance it looked a shoulder contact, but actually it was not. At least supportable. YC then mandatory

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    4. George24 September 2020 at 21:15

      Yes, it is a clear penalty.

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    5. Referee 1224 September 2020 at 21:15

      IMO correct call by Taylor.

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    6. pele2324 September 2020 at 21:16

      The question you should ask is: would a referee like Kuipers or Brych whistle that? The answer is No.

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    7. RefSoccer341224 September 2020 at 21:17

      My opinion can give a penalty. No clear mistake

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    8. Raymus24 September 2020 at 21:17

      No. If you whistle this penalty, every brawl during a corner kick must result in a penalty in terms of shoulder to shoulder contact.

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    9. Upstylon24 September 2020 at 21:17

      Very interesting situation. Grey area, one can argue about the fact that the bayern player didn't challenge his opponent while playing the ball/ball being on distance of play, but on the other hand it wasn't that clear and keeper would have taken control of the ball anyway.

      As live perception is for sure completely different from replay angle, I might not have whistled this but I can live any day with a PK call either.

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    10. Cassius24 September 2020 at 21:21

      not a call you want to see in an european final, but I think supportable. Bayern player is late and working against opponent‘s body. But better nor to whistle, especially in such a match.

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    11. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:37

      @pele23

      That’s why Kuipers and Brych can NOT reach success in any big tournaments like World Cup,Euro

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    12. Jackson25 September 2020 at 05:38

      It's a penalty for me.

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  5. Upstylon24 September 2020 at 21:12

    And YC to BAY#27

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  6. Paddy24 September 2020 at 21:13

    Never a penalty...

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  7. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 21:14

    That penalty is a joke...

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  8. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 21:16

    If this is a penalty stop playing football. No ellbow no pushing with arms...nothing

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  9. pele2324 September 2020 at 21:20

    Missed YC for SEV#10

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  10. john oxford24 September 2020 at 21:21

    wrong appointment wrong penalty call..

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  11. Anthony24 September 2020 at 21:21

    Soft, supportable? Noo. IMO clear penalty,def goes directly to attacker body. No interest for the ball.

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    1. JR24 September 2020 at 21:42

      And what should be penalized in terms of the lotg?

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    2. Anthony24 September 2020 at 21:52

      Pushing illegally and preventing attacker to be in possession of the ball.

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    3. JR24 September 2020 at 22:01

      But there was no pushing...

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    4. Jackson25 September 2020 at 05:46

      It's clearly Charging. Clear penalty. Correct call. And I'm not Taylor's biggest fan, I still think it's a penalty.

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  12. Upstylon24 September 2020 at 21:22

    That tackle from Rakitic would have been worth a verbal warning at least IMO.

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  13. Andrasch Neunert24 September 2020 at 21:23

    For me a wrong penalty, plus some strange decisions.... Taking away a clear adv., missing a foul by Goretzka, and so on... I am not convinced so far.

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  14. Chefren24 September 2020 at 21:46

    Interesitng situation in 45'+1, was Taylor correct in issuing YC?

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    1. Upstylon24 September 2020 at 21:49

      I think the FK was taken a bit higher in Sevilla's half that it should have been, but as he allowed bayern to do so, he is right to caution the player who is not respecting the distance and trying to referee on his terms.

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    2. Jaf24 September 2020 at 21:49

      Correct yellow card. normal game for an elite referee in an european final... Expecting more in the second half

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    3. RefSoccer341224 September 2020 at 21:50

      I think Taylor shows players from Sevilla because he doesn't keep the minimum distance. In my opinion is correct yellow card.

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    4. JR24 September 2020 at 22:02

      There would be no excuse to show no YC for this.

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  15. JR24 September 2020 at 21:48

    No good personality and not to much acceptance for Taylor. I hope for a better 2nd half

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  16. xabi24 September 2020 at 21:51

    IMO an average first half for Taylor.

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  17. RefSoccer341224 September 2020 at 21:56

    https://streamable.com/f3qkc1

    Penalty to Sevilla by Anthony Taylor 11'

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    1. David25 September 2020 at 15:55

      Penalty for me. But I have seen the suggestion that a PK in a final must be very, very clear. I think he would get a lot of stick eather way. It was definitely not shoulder to shoulder and the force of the bump was not negatable, good decision IMO.

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  18. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:03

    And a lot off people here are saying that this isn't a penalty... sorry guys but wtf :/ defender makes everything to prevent the attacker (unfairly) and he has not minimum interes for the ball

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    1. JR24 September 2020 at 22:15

      Yes, then you can award an indirect freekick, but cases where it's possible to award a direct freekick are written in lotg

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    2. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:22

      JR, do you know the term of 'charge'? Just asking...

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    3. JR24 September 2020 at 22:35

      Is this really the case for you? With this intensity?

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    4. Referee analyst24 September 2020 at 23:16

      Sorry but no IFK here because of contact. And IMO clear penalty. No intention to play the ball. No acceptable defensive gesture at this level. Agree completely with Taylor here.

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  19. RefSoccer341224 September 2020 at 22:13

    Offside by VAR after goal for Bayern with 2-1.

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  20. Chefren24 September 2020 at 22:22

    Controversial call now by Taylor, I think, no evidence of a clear holding and a goal scored was disallowed. VAR couldn't intervene.

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    1. pele2324 September 2020 at 22:24

      Horrible call. No visible contact at all. Performance goes from below average to outright bad.

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    2. Cavus24 September 2020 at 22:25

      Can you explain why VAR can’t intervene?

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    3. xabi24 September 2020 at 22:25

      No foul in my opinion

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    4. Chefren24 September 2020 at 22:26

      Taylor whistled before the ball entered the net. It was like goal didn't exist at all.

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    5. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:26

      Why VAR couldn't intervene?

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    6. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:28

      I think he whistled just after the goal.

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    7. Cavus24 September 2020 at 22:28

      I do think he whistled after the goal

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    8. Chefren24 September 2020 at 22:31

      So if he whistled after the goal, crucial mistake by VAR, nothing to add.

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  21. Raymus24 September 2020 at 22:23

    No foul by Lewandowski. Poor Taylor tonight.

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  22. Andrasch Neunert24 September 2020 at 22:23

    Foul Lewandowski before the goal? What!?? I saw really NOTHING... ANYONE who saw more???

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  23. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:23

    I'm sorry but that's never a foul by Lewandowski.

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  24. Andrasch Neunert24 September 2020 at 22:24

    This is on the way to end in a scandal...

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  25. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:24

    Taylor clearly isn't able to wwhistle big finals. Another goal disallowwed for a phantom foul

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  26. RefSoccer341224 September 2020 at 22:29

    For me is no foul by Lewandowski. VAR should have checked.

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  27. Theref24 September 2020 at 22:34

    These comments... Sorry but clearly offensive. Talking about scandal and disaster and so on... There is space for improvement of course , but nobody mentioning correct yellow cards or good advantages, great positioning and so on... Only the bad things, even though Taylor is showing why he is an elite referee.
    Regarding the disallowed goal there were not a single good angle so far shown. In my opinion just based on one camera angle there could be a minor hold. But please even though you disagree with Taylor in some cases, try to keep a good manner.

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    1. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:35

      Sure, but two crucial mistakes is just unacceptable, especially with VAR.

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    2. Chefren24 September 2020 at 22:37

      Two crucial mistakes? Penalty whistled is never a crucial mistake.

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    3. JR24 September 2020 at 22:38

      Yes, you are right. But keep in mind. There should be only one ref happy about this performance.
      Michael Oliver

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    4. pele2324 September 2020 at 22:39

      Disagree. There is one comment talking about a scandal which is clearly reaching however all other comments are totally valid. All YC that he handed out were absolutely obvious. The penalty was soft. It seems that you just need to fall and you'll always get the call. On top of that the 'foul' before the second Bayern call was soft at best and non-existent at worst.

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    5. JR24 September 2020 at 22:39

      On the other hand, I cannot see, why Taylor is Elite. Therefore his overall performance isn't good enough.

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    6. Theref24 September 2020 at 22:39

      Penalty was fully correct. Offside was hard to detect and Taylor could do nothing about it.
      And let's see if someone find an angle where it's validated that there was no foul by Lewandowski.(probably camera from behind the goal would help)
      So stop these overreactions about he is not a man for a final and so on.

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    7. Anthony24 September 2020 at 22:41

      @theref totally agree with you. It seems like not a professional discussion but like a page with a bunch of Chelsea fans that are still angry with Taylor

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    8. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:47

      @JR

      I think that Oliver should be happy that he is still in Elite Category....

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    9. JR24 September 2020 at 22:52

      @anonymous
      Why?

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  28. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 22:53

    When it comes to finals, Taylor confirms he is not the man for the job, overrated ref, no clear line what to whistle, random approach. Just my opinion.

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  29. Jaf24 September 2020 at 22:55

    Taylor is controlling this game,and I just don't understand why this Chelsea fans are commenting bad about him.

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    1. Paddy24 September 2020 at 23:06

      Because there was a penalty which nobody wann’s to see in such a game and a „Foul“!

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    2. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 23:12

      @paddy so by your logic at the quarterfinal or semifinals it's OK to whistle that penalty but at the final no. Haha

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    3. Paddy24 September 2020 at 23:22

      Ok! Right so far but i‘m sure you know what i mean...

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    4. Jackson25 September 2020 at 05:50

      I'm a Chelsea fan and I have no issue with Taylor's performance in this game. Correct penalty.

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  30. Jaf24 September 2020 at 23:17

    Chefren can you please remove some comments? Seems some Chelsea fans are here who are still angry with Taylor

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  31. Cassius24 September 2020 at 23:22

    112‘ no YC?

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    1. Upstylon24 September 2020 at 23:25

      Should have been shown IMO

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    2. Cassius24 September 2020 at 23:27

      I thought the same. one could argue that there was no foul, but if whistled, YC is mandatory imo. clear SPA.

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  32. Paddy24 September 2020 at 23:40

    7,6 will ne the mark

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    1. Paddy24 September 2020 at 23:43

      Overall -0,1, „foul lewandowski“ -0,5, 2 mandatory YC 2x -0,1

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  33. usaref24 September 2020 at 23:43

    What is the LOTG argument for the penalty not being DOGSO?

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    1. Paddy24 September 2020 at 23:44

      No control of the ball

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    2. JR24 September 2020 at 23:44

      No control of the ball

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    3. Mikael W25 September 2020 at 01:12

      I'm glad someone had the same thought as me, usaref!

      To answer your question: there isn't one.

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    4. Jackson25 September 2020 at 05:52

      Did you not read what JR and Paddy just said Mikael? If you are going to say "there isn't one" I think you should at least explain why.

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    5. JR25 September 2020 at 11:35

      @Jackson +1

      @Mikael
      It's really kind of awkward. We gave you one reason, while you gave none against.
      For me, I think "there isn't one" to show a RC.

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    6. usaref25 September 2020 at 15:21

      I've thought about this more overnight and spoke to a friend (MLS referee) about it.

      The control of the ball issue is obviously subjective. I would say the likelihood/possibility of gaining possession at the MOMENT OF THE FOUL is quite high, so for me DOGSO conditions are clearly met. The only reason it looks like he won't gain control is because he's fouled and the ball falls easily to the keeper.

      However... re-reading the Laws I am reminded that the word "charge" is not included with the examples of "holding, pushing, pulling." So the LOTG are not written in a way that all non-leg fouls have to be DOGSO-red. This is a charging foul, but it's a charging foul with an attempt and possibility to play the ball. So, on reflection, I would conclude that a red card would be wrong from an LOTG perspective (and to be clear, from a match management perspective I would never expect a red card here).

      All that said... I do think this was DOGSO and a yellow.

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  34. RefSoccer341224 September 2020 at 23:46

    Not best tonight for Taylor and his team. Sorry, that is my opinion.

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  35. Anonymous24 September 2020 at 23:51

    Any predictions for the EURO qualification semi finals?

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    1. Philipp S25 September 2020 at 11:37

      Should be more or less the same names as in the CL play-offs + supercup.

      Predictions
      ISL-ROU: Mateu
      BUL-HUN: del Cerro Grande
      BIH-BIR: Brych
      SVK-IRL: Orsato
      SCO-ISR: Skomina
      NOR-SRB: Kuipers
      GEO-BLR: Marciniak
      MKD-KOS: Taylor

      Remark: I made those some time ago, so they don't consider recent performances.

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  36. Andrasch Neunert24 September 2020 at 23:56

    And the rest was average, at least. All in all I must say Taylor did IMO 2 crucial mistakes and missed at least 2YCs, and his foul detection was not convincing at all. I have seen him much, much better. Good luck next time.

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  37. Anonymous25 September 2020 at 06:01

    Maybe you are only envious and you would really like to be at the level of Taylor. Good performance, no doubt. Or maybe you are Chelsea fans? Go to the site of your team, not here.

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  38. Ref Fot25 September 2020 at 09:54

    Absolutley correct performance by Anthony Taylor. He is man for the job.I think that until the end of his career he will accomplish the UCL final.

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    OT: Europa League play off appointments are published. As I expected Bebek is appointed (Cluj-KUPS). After his performance in Juve-Lyon Zwayer is also appointed in EL as expected. Missing elite are: Kuipers, Lahoz, Brych, Orsato, Marciniak, Grinfeld, Skomina if I am right.

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    1. Philipp S25 September 2020 at 11:34

      The missing Elite referees were the expected names for the CL play-off second legs - except Grinfeeld, who probably is missing due to yesterday's appointment (or travel restrictions).

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    2. xabi25 September 2020 at 20:18

      Two more elite refs are missing: Aytekin (injured) and Kralovec (I don't know the reasons).

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