MD8 of 2023/24 European Qualifiers starts on Sunday 15 October with the following referee appointments.
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| Davide Massa (ITA) will be observed by a committee member |
Sunday15 October 2023
15:00 CET - Tbilisi (Mikheil Meskhis Stadioni)
GEORGIA - CYPRUS | Group A
Referee: Robert Jones ENG
Assistant Referee 1: Ian Hussin ENG
Assistant Referee 2: Wade Smith ENG
Fourth Official: Simon Hooper ENG
Video Assistant Referee: David Coote ENG
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Peter Bankes ENG
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs SUI
UEFA Delegate: Aian Äljanov KAZ
18:00 CET - Plzeň (Doosan Arena)
CZECHIA - FAROE ISLANDS | Group E
Referee: Rohit Saggi NOR
Assistant Referee 1: Morten Jensen NOR
Assistant Referee 2: Anders Olav Dale NOR
Fourth Official: Kai Erik Steen NOR
Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Edwin Van De Graaf NED
UEFA Referee Observer: Cüneyt Çakır TUR
UEFA Delegate: David Findlay SCO
18:00 CET - St. Gallen (Kybunpark)
SWITZERLAND - BELARUS | Group I
Referee: João Pinheiro POR
Assistant Referee 1: Bruno Jesus POR
Assistant Referee 2: Luciano Maia POR
Fourth Official: Fabio Verissimo POR
Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho POR
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Hugo Miguel POR
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Božinovski MKD
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd SWE
20:45 CET - Oslo (Ullevaal Stadion)
NORWAY - SPAIN | Group A
Referee: Tobias Stieler GER
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Dietz GER
Assistant Referee 2: Mark Borsch GER
Fourth Official: Tobias Reichel GER
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz GER
UEFA Referee Observer: Viktor Kassai HUN
UEFA Delegate: Lars Richt SWE
20:45 CET - Konya (Konya Büyükşehir Belediye Stadyumu)
TÜRKİYE - LATVIA | Group D
Referee: Enea Jorgji ALB
Assistant Referee 1: Denis Rexha ALB
Assistant Referee 2: Ridiger Çokaj ALB
Fourth Official: Florian Lata ALB
Video Assistant Referee: Daniele Chiffi ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Kreshnik Barjamaj ALB
UEFA Referee Observer: Lutz Michael Fröhlich GER
UEFA Delegate: Marcin Stefański POL
20:45 CET - Cardiff (Cardiff City Stadium)
WALES - CROATIA | Group D
Referee: Davide Massa ITA
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli ITA
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio ITA
Fourth Official: Matteo Marcenaro ITA
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luca Pairetto ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Carlos Velasco Carballo ESP
UEFA Delegate: Claude Runavot FRA
20:45 CET - Warsaw (PGE Narodowy)
POLAND - MOLDOVA | Group E
Referee: Artur Dias POR
Assistant Referee 1: Paulo Soares POR
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Ribeiro POR
Fourth Official: António Nobre POR
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins POR
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Hélder Malheiro POR
UEFA Referee Observer: Marián Ružbarský SVK
UEFA Delegate: Luis Cuervas Del Real ESP
20:45 CET - Bucharest (Arena Națională)
ROMANIA - ANDORRA | Group I
Referee: Kristo Tohver EST
Assistant Referee 1: Silver Koiv EST
Assistant Referee 2: Sten Klaasen EST
Fourth Official: Juri Frischer EST
Video Assistant Referee: Pascal Müller GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Harm Osmers GER
UEFA Referee Observer: David Malcom NIR
UEFA Delegate: Igor Radojčić SRB
Postponed Game - Pristina (Stadiumi Fadil Vokrri)
KOSOVO - ISRAEL | Group I
Referee: Ivan Kružliak SVK
Assistant Referee 1: Branislav Hancko SVK
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Pozor SVK
Fourth Official: Peter Kralović SVK
Video Assistant Referee: Sören Storks GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sven Jablonski GER
UEFA Referee Observer: Kýros Vassáras GRE
UEFA Delegate: Andrey Medintsev BUL
Very surprising appointment for Jorgji after his not so good performance in Bern vs Leipzip with his wrong decision after OFR. In this very important game for Turkiye we could have expected a more experienced referee honestly.
ReplyDeleteBut Latvia has zero points, therefore an Elite referee would have been too much, I think.
DeleteAnd a First group referee, who currently works in CL is the next best option.
By the way, the match between Kosovo vs Israel was postponed today. It is oficial from UEFA.
ReplyDeleteI was surprised that Kosovo - Israel was still confirmed as game and indeed it has been officially postponed by UEFA a few minutes ago.
ReplyDeleteToo late to remove the appointment, and we know that Kruzliak with an important observer would have been in charge. Particular to note that the fourth official, Kralovic, had been assigned to Israel as well in the postponed under 21 game against Estonia, originally planned for today.
About the rest, we have EURO observation for Massa, with Velasco, that's very clear, he is fightging for a spot, it was difficult to understand before today, due to rather regular assignment, but I think the Spanish head will assess him in this regard. I know that many people will disagree if he will be called, but after working as fourth official at previous EURO, this could have been expected.
Some below expectations games for Dias since his return, but I think this depends on the moment, he will get more later in case of good performance in Poland.
Very important game for Stieler and you can even more draw the conclusion that he has replaced Siebert in recent games, reaching a similar status to Zwayer and maybe trying to understand whether he can get more. Nevertheless, the management of German Elite referees by UEFA, stays as the most crazy thing we saw by years...
Yeah, the management of German referees is very wired; Zwayer, Siebert and Stieler are going up and down very rapidly in the latest 3 years
DeleteChefren... Stieler reaching a similar position to Zwayer. You are joking, come on there is a huge gap right now between Zwayer and stieler also siebert. Their position is very clear
DeleteSoares Dias indeed a lower profile game, but this could be a hint that he will get sth like PSG-Milan or reversed.
ReplyDeleteObviously a very sensitive game - the losing side will have a difficult time to qualify for the knock-outs. It will be two experienced heads for sure. Soares Dias, Vincic or they repeat one of the Spaniards again. I can’t think of many other names.
Rob Jones with a non FIFA AR?
ReplyDeleteI reckon Smith and Mainwaring will come on the fifa ar list in the near future, Hatzidakis out
Anyone know why Alireza Faghani’s AR from Iran, Mohamed Reza Mansouri (45), still active in AFC competition but not selected for AFC Asian Cup 2024, despite Iran still have Mooud Bonyadifard.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the ref you mentioned has different ARs in his trio. Also, the Asian Cup is in 2024, when perhaps Mansouri might retire.
DeleteIt is not really such a bad game for Dias. After all, 4 out of 5 teams in group E are in direct fight for qualification. So except the games involving Faroe Islands, only Elite referees expected there (see Makkelie in today's game).
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, Soares Dias got an extremely high-profile match: Moldova is currently two points ahead of Poland but has to play abroad and can only qualify directly by reaching at least the second position - but they can not advance to the play-offs. Both Poland (currently 4th) and Moldova (currently 3rd) have to win this game in order to have a chance to overtake the Czech Republic with 8 points (as many as Moldova but one match less).
DeleteIt is a crucial game for qualification, and certainly not to be underestimated, but this is not a high profile imo. In case of any controversy, it won’t be on the frontpages in, for instance, England, Germany, Spain, Italy etc., which is different for play-offs, UCL, knock-outs, or when a top5 country is involved.
DeleteBut I repeat, definitely not an easy game to referee.
Soares Dias getting low profile but extremely important and challenging game. I think its the year for a Final, maybe even UCL..
DeleteOBSERVERS
ReplyDeleteUCL
Galatasaray - Bayern (Bernardino González Vázquez ESP)
Man United - Copenhagen (?)
Sevilla - Arsenal (?)
Lens - PSV (Milorad Mažić SRB)
Braga - Real Madrid (Stefan Johannesson SWE)
Union Berlin - Napoli (Rien Koopman NED)
Inter - Salzburg (Juan Antonio Fernández Marín ESP)
Benfica - Real Sociedad (Edgar Steinborn GER)
Feyenoord - Lazio (Stéphane Lannoy FRA)
Celtic - Atlético (Frank De Bleeckere BEL)
Paris - Milan (Tomasz Mikulski POL)
Newcastle - Dortmund (?)
Leipzig - Crvena zvezda (Alain Hamer LUX)
Young Boys - Man City (Carlos Velasco Carballo ESP)
Barcelona - Shakhtar Donetsk (Roberto Rosetti ITA)
Antwerp - Porto (Volodymyr Petrov UKR)
UEL
Olympiacos - West Ham (Terje Hauge NOR)
Bačka Topola - Freiburg (Uno Tutk EST)
Marseille - AEK Athens (Stefan Meßner AUT)
Brighton - Ajax (Lucílio Cardoso Cortez Batista POR)
Sparta Praha - Rangers (Dejan Filipović SRB)
Aris Limassol - Real Betis (Emil Božinovski MKD)
Sturm Graz - Atalanta (Rune Pedersen NOR)
Raków - Sporting CP (Vlado Svilokos CRO)
Union SG - LASK (Martin Hansson SWE)
Liverpool - Toulouse (Alexandru Deaconu ROU)
Villarreal - Maccabi Haifa (Vladimir Antonov MDA)
Panathinaikos - Rennes (Leslie Irvine NIR)
Roma - Slavia Praha (David Fernández Borbalán ESP)
Sheriff - Servette (Manuel Díaz Vega ESP)
Molde - Häcken (João Francisco Lopes Ferreira POR)
Leverkusen - Qarabağ (Stávros Tritsónis GRE)
UECL
Lille - Slovan Bratislava (Nerijus Dunauskas LTU)
KÍ Klaksvík - Olimpija Ljubljana (Ognjen Valjić BIH)
Gent - Breiðablik (Michaíl Koukoulákis GRE)
Maccabi Tel Aviv - Zorya Luhansk (?)
Ballkani - Astana (Simon Lee Evans WAL)
Dinamo Zagreb - Viktoria Plzeň (Robert Schörgenhofer AUT)
Lugano - Club Brugge (Mark Steven Whitby WAL)
Bodø/Glimt - Beşiktaş (Jens Larsen DEN)
AZ Alkmaar - Aston Villa (Tony Asumaa FIN)
Zrinjski - Legia (Karel Vidlák CZE)
Genk - Ferencváros (Robert Sedlacek AUT)
Fiorentina - Čukarički (Calum Murray SCO)
Eintracht Frankfurt - HJK (Matteo Simone Trefoloni ITA)
Aberdeen - PAOK (Kjell Gunnar Alseth NOR)
Fenerbahçe - Ludogorets (Nicolae Grigorescu ROU)
Spartak Trnava - Nordsjælland (Chrístos Nikolaḯdis CYP)
The Scottish press is really worried and furious about the decisions of Gözübüyük in Sevilla. Why he never raised his hands for offside? Why we haven’t seen the lines of offside. Strange approach
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Very good decision see here picture of lines and see picture of restart game indirect for offside.
No problem to delete my comments. But if we talk about the rules/procedure it’s as follow: after the OFR (why OFR? the offside is factual because of the contact with the goalkeeper) the referee makes the VAR gesture and direct his decision. Gozubuyuk indicated a foul or something else but didn’t raise his hand for offside. Let’s wait for the outcome of the audio
DeleteYes, there might have been procedural mistakes when communicating the final decision.
DeleteBut the outcome "no goal" is clearly correct, so it seems quite unreasonable to react in a "worried and furious" manner.
And no, the offside is not factual due to the contact. There is nothing like that in the LotG. It still remains a subjective decision here, whether that is interference with play or not.
The bottom line is media want to blame anyone but the player, who stood off side, who pushed the keeper. It’s too convenient to not pick what the referee team did in what, either way was the correct decision and restarted in the correct manner
DeleteAccording to UEFA Stieler has 2 games in 48 hours NOR ESP tonight then FRA SCO friendly in Lille on Tuesday. Thoughts?
ReplyDeleteVIA UEFA:
DeleteFRA SCO 2100 CET LILLE 17/10/2023
Ref: Tobias Stieler
AR1: Christian Gittelmann
AR2: Robert Kempter
4th: Daniel Schlager
VAR: Günter Perl
AVAR: Mike Pickel
Seems indeed unnecessary. E.g., Daniel Siebert would have been a logical alternative.
DeleteBTW, Kempter and Schlager meet France twice in a few days after having been in Zwayer's team.
The Scottish Football Association has requested the audio between Gözübüyük and Pol van Boekel from UEFA
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, and I have big respect for Scottish federation, this is something that shows that they just don't accept the loss, because the reason for disallowing the goal is evident, offside. They want to use a detail to change reality, there can be mayba a procedure mistake by referee making wrong signal, but if they are fair they must say goal was correctly disallowed.... so?
DeleteThe initial comment is incorrect. The SFA has NOT requested the VAR audio. They have however asked UEFA for clarification regarding the process in this decision. Which I feel is fair given the confusing nature of the decision
DeleteTohver with an appointment after those terrible mistakes in Conference League. If he is trusted by the Committee this could be a recovery match to get something else in UEL/UECL. Otherwise this match could have gone to a young Cat. 1 or even Cat. 2.
ReplyDeleteVery good spot by Robert Jones in GEO - CYP, hanbdall penalty, not eaty to detect.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamff.co/v/c6GWBiqU-N
Czech Republic - Faroe Islands
ReplyDelete36' very good yellow card to Czech #20 for diving.
Overall a great Saggi so far.
Who is referee for Mexico - Germany?
ReplyDeleteRubiel Vazquez (USA)
DeleteVery long VAR check in Switzerland - Belarus, third Belarussian goal initially disallowed for offside and then conceded after VAR intervention, quite difficult to determine if the player who made the 'assist' actually touched the ball or not.
ReplyDeleteVAR check in SUI - BLR for 3rd belarusian goal, onfield decision was changed, but very difficult case to spot for AR.
ReplyDeleteI think that a replay showed a very soft touch by head but it existed, nevertheless, given VAR decision, I can be wrong. Such cases are almost impossible to assess, better to stay with pitch decision.
DeleteI'm assuming that the Belarusian striker was onside from the 'flick on' as it was impossible to determine if it was actually touched on that flick on
ReplyDeleteAnd here we go with another controversial decision...
ReplyDeletehttps://streamin.me/v/338d6aa6
Crucial penalty in Saggi game. Arm as support, in this case should be clear, but penalt given.
I would like to write a letter to head of refereeing... that's impossible to understand.
I think you have to distinguish between tackling (eg. famous Faghani/Al-Marri penalty at the WC) and blocking (acting like a goalkeeper) motions when considering the supporting arm clause. The aim of the defender's action here by going to ground is making his body surface bigger to block the centred ball; he succeeds, by stopping it directly with his arm. I'd back up Saggi's decision of a penalty here personally.
Delete(watching most of the 2H: Saggi showed very good soft skills but I wasn't completely convinced by disciplinary actions; in general it was an easy task for the Norwegian as there were few duels to assess, owing to the weak technical ability of the away side).
I agree with Mikael, that's not just a "supporting arm", it's streching for the ball and making the body unnaturally bigger
DeleteThe issue of hands is an absolute mess, it's true. In this case I agree with Mikael, it seems penalty to me.
DeleteYes, Elliot makes the right argument IMO. I would say, a relatively clear penalty and even the defender seemed to immediately accept his mistake.
DeleteHowever, I am not so convinced by the general distinction between tackling and blocking in this context, because I think, there are many blocking actions, where the arm is in a supporting position, which is a natural consequence of the body movement - and then it should be considered as no penalty.
Spain goal. Deliberate play or deflection? To me it's an interception that has deflected
ReplyDeleteSimilarities to Spain vs. Scotland:
Delete- (clearly) correct interpretation of Law11 by the officials
- 'Rory and Michael' show themselves to be clowns (sorry), again
Another case where the 'Mbappé Nations League final' rule just complicates matters, and it would be better to go back to the interpretation of ≈15yrs ago. But the lawmakers want to 'have their cake and eat it', and you get into the same sort of mess as TUNFRA caused at the last WC. No wonder normal fans are confused!
Spain no.5's caution should be incorrect, right, I don't think you can deem that as either SPA or LoR?
DeleteCommentators had no clue, quite correct. Certainly a clip I can see in laws of the game discussions in the future
DeleteI think it is quite similar to 7 or (especially) 8 in the IFAB series below; and indeed a perfect seminar example for 'no deliberate play'.
Deletehttps://www.theifab.com/news/law-11-offside-deliberate-play-guidelines-clarified/
Very immature to call commentators clowns.
DeleteUEFA are treating them like clowns with the decision making process and lack of communication.
VAR will be removed from football if no improvements are made in next 2 years
"The player had time to coordinate their body movement, i.e. it was not a case of instinctive stretching or jumping, or a movement that achieved limited contact/control"
DeleteBy the LOTG is very clear if it is a stretching or jumping to the ball is not a deliberate play.
Clearly deliberate play. He had time and his intention was clear. Full control and it's deliberate. I think they saw it as a save. There is no way they saw this as a deflection.
DeleteIMO correct decision by Stieler, not a deliberate play
Delete"Full control"? I have a different understanding of that...
DeleteThe main factor with the new interpretation is whether the ball was controllable. And I don't think, there was any chance for the defender to get the ball under control (i.e. being able to then make a free choice where to pass the ball).
Very long check in Oslo.... Multi faceted offside decision.
ReplyDeleteWas Morata offside from the shot. Difficult angle to tell definitively. Was the other player in the keepers line of vision, and was he offside?
All in all, looks like the correct decision
Didn't affect his ability to play the ball in any way. The check should have been over in less than half a minute.
DeleteI agree with VG, surprised it took that long. For me it would even be a clear and obvious error to disallow the goal
DeleteYes, too long, but they needed to check at least three things
Delete1) Was Morata in an offside position, when he touched the ball - probably very tight and needed some time
2) Was Gavi active (influencing an opponent's ability to play the ball) in the same situation - probably needed several angles to exclude it
3) Was Morata active for the final shot - the easiest one of the three to deny, but still relevant and to be checked
Plus the rest of the APP needed to be checked as well, of course.
Missed offside before corner and then goal scored from corner for Croatia in Wales. Also Massa with not good foul detection tonight.
ReplyDeleteVery inconsistent Massa about foul detection,also time added againis problematic for him,5 added on,there was timewasting in those 5 mins and he blew his whistle at 5:05...
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ReplyDeleteI think that today Stieler has taken a big step towards being in the Euros. Being in Germany, I think there will be two German referees: Zwayer and probably Stieler.
The referees who have not performed in these two qualifying matchdays are: Hategan, Karasev, Kulbakov, Scharer, Collum, Bastien, Siebert, Greenfeld and Jovanovic. The referee for Israel-Switzerland remains to be known, perhaps the Serbian. Bad sign for Bastien, Siebert, Collum and Greenfeld.
Decent performance from Soares Dias in POLMDA.
ReplyDeleteNo big KMIs to assess - some minor penalty appeals (no replays), brilliantly spotted simulation by 19POL (46') and potential handball (impossible to be sure from the only replay shown by broadcaster, 90+3').
46' - https://streamable.com/c5w6ld
90+3' - https://streamable.com/9tqcy9
He was too lenient against blatant DtR by Moldovans at the beginning (12', 19', 37' should've been all YCs, especially the first two) but then he finally cautioned 17MDA in 42'. In the second half, the Moldovan GK was testing Portuguese's patience (59', 61') and he was indeed booked in 84'. Also the substitution in 79' lasted too long - the player should've been ordered to leave the field of play at goalline and not to be allowed to walk slowly for almost a minute.
https://streamable.com/mqun2j
One can question some play-on calls but other than that everything was fine. Maybe it's just me but Soares Dias looked slightly fatigued and maybe his fitness level is not optimal.
Remaining YCs, all mandatory:
17' - https://streamable.com/gun3g0
21' - https://streamable.com/5re73e
45+4' - https://streamable.com/4o3ml6
82' - https://streamable.com/eduoz1
Thanks, while for the simulation I think that most of referees would have just played on (you can see a softh touch by defender), so excellent decision by Portuguese, the rest doesn't convince me.
Delete12' and 19' are too evident behaviors to be ignored. Better management of the third situation, when Dias started to be aware against them, and then in the fourth (42') he booked. I really don't understand why an Elite referee should have such approach, even appearing just stronger, without booking player, would have been better, but if you allow that in the beginning, game can become complicate. I have the feeling that sometimes referee are too lazy to take actions (then later in the game they still have to do that), so can't find other explanations. But all in all, seems an OK performance by him and he can now get more on MD3 or 4.
Indeed, I was really disappointed to see such blatant DtRs ignored yesterday. The beginning of the season looked promising in this aspect. We will see whether UEFA have already relaxed their approach or it was lack of awareness by the Portuguese.
DeleteTohver with an OK performance in Romania vs Andorra. 7 YC and 1 RC, all correctly given, 3 of them in the first 15 minutes.
ReplyDeleteThe most interesting situation of the game was the penalty for Romania in min 42', for an off-the-ball foul. It took 12 seconds from the moment when the foul occurred until Tohver whistled it, and from his gesture it seems like he totally missed it and it was communicated to him by the 4th official.
42' - penalty for ROU: https://youtu.be/MzMgiwcmau8?t=274
90'+1 - 2YC (RC) for AND: https://youtu.be/MzMgiwcmau8
Also some words about the Andorra national team, a filthy, disgusting squad, whose players' only goal was to provoke, simulate, hit their opponents and waste time. Their game has nothing to do with football, even when they were down 4-0 they were simply staying in their own half without any attempt to play any constructive football. They're like Getafe's evil cousin, but with zero talent.
I think that video can't be watched outside Romania (maybe in other countries is not the same).
DeleteThe problem with the issue deliberate play - deflection according to the current LotG and also guidelines is that some deliberate plays, at least in the intention, are assessed as deflections. This makes things complicated to understand to fans, but also to referees themselves and experts. Because if a player puts his leag to play ball and he does that, but he makes a wrong play, then you have still to say deflection, despite of the clear intention to play ball and movement toward it that should be enough if we stay to the real meaning of the term. But that's indeed not enough, we saw several incidents in serie A and all were assessed as deflections, with offside confirmed decisions. Many people, also referees, had different ideas.
ReplyDeleteOrsato released an interview in which he stated, among other things, that for this matter he just relies on his assistant referees (one can read his words in the meaning that even he himself confesses to be unable to make this distinction).
So for having a deliberate play I think we must see a player, mostly controlling without problems the ball on the ground, stopping it, having time to think about where to play it... and then making his action. On the contrary, all head actions could be discussed with current regulation. I think it is very complicated and should be solved in a different way.
Possible offside before CRO corner and goal:
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Maybe tight offside by upper body and especially head, but not calling it by AR seems to be not a mistake, I think we can see attacker and second last defender on a quite similar level.
Penalty for ROU vs Andorra:
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Difficult to spot by Tohver, given the delayed whistle and signal afterwards, it was probably communicated by the 4th official.
Thanks, interesting to point out how Tohver was taking a look at penalty area every now and then, while following the action, but he missed the incident, definitely impossible to see for referee.
DeleteI think the call was rather made by AR1, with a better view on the incident, but the communication to referee was not immediate.
Correct foul and YC, good spot by officials but it wouldn't have been VAR stuff.
I guess the communication came from the 4th official, because there was a "thumb up" in his direction by Tohver
DeleteSimilar case to the (in)famous red card issued by Fandel on the advice of his linesman in Denmark vs. Sweden - actually the correct restart would be defensive freekick, because the defender was initially provoked by the attacker into the retaliation. However, I don't think you can really fault the 'trailing eye' official for not picking everything up, and better to praise them for the alertness in the first place. A VAR intervention in this case to reverse the penalty for a freekick to Andorra would definitely be exaggerated imo.
DeleteHow was Stieler Overall in Norway yesterday?
ReplyDeleteI feel like the management of England 🏴 PGMOL is affecting the performance of the referees, Oliver was so good but not at his perfect best now
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