Please find below the officials selected for 2023 FIFA Under 17 World Cup.
FIFA Under 17 World Cup - Indonesia 2023
10 November - 2 December 2023
AFC
Omar Al Ali (UAE)Fu Ming (CHN)
Hyung Jin Ko (KOR)
CAF
Pierre Atcho (GAB)
Dahane Beida (MTN)
Ibrahim Mutaz (LYB)
CONCACAF
Keylor Herrera (CRC)
Bryan Lopez (GUA)
CONMEBOL
Augusto Aragon (ECU)
Ivo Mendez (BOL)
Roberto Perez (PER)
Gustavo Tejera (URU)
OFC
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UEFA
Espen Eskas (NOR)
Morten Krogh (DEN)
Atilla Karaoğlan (TUR)
Rade Obrenovic (SVN)
Joao Pinheiro (POR)
Khalid Saleh Al Turais (KSA)
Kate Jacewicz (AUS)
Abdullah Jamali (KUW)
Lahlou Benbraham (ALG)
Daniel Laryea (GHA)
Ismael Cornejo (SLV)
Joseph Dickerson (USA)
Tatiana Guzman (NCA)
Igor Benevenuto (BRA)
Rodrigo Carvajal (CHI)
Derlis Lopez (PAR)
John Perdomo (COL)
David Coote (ENG)
Aleandro Di Paolo (ITA)
Rob Dieperink (NED)
Aggelos Evangelou (GRE)
Fedayi San (SUI)
Ivaylo Stoyanov (BUL)
SUPPORT REFEREES
Aprisman Aranda (IDN)
Thoriq Munir Alkatiri (IDN)
Yudi Nurcahya (IDN)
Is it normal to have all local support referees?
ReplyDeleteObrenovic? I do wonder what UEFA/FIFA see in such a weak referee.
ReplyDeleteHe has so many car crash performances. Least the u17 in Ireland where it made worldwide news!! I don’t think uefa look at performance only look at the country the referee is from. ALL POLITICAL
DeleteHe was among Espen best referee at Euro u21...so absolutely deserved
DeleteHow the **** did Coote get selected?
ReplyDeleteOT: Hi everyone! I would like to ask if any of you know a link of the official profiles WITH FOTO of the referees in England - Select group 1 and Italy. A big part of the referee section in the Premier League site is completely non functioning and in the AIA site the referees are presented only by names. Thanks anyone in advance!
ReplyDeleteObrenovic?????? Shame, shame , shame for UEFA, FIFA, Aleksandar Ceferin, Vladimir Sajn and Roberto Rosetti.
ReplyDeleteAll corruption of the highest order. Unfair on many other small country referees who have zero chance of getting these competitions even as support. Maybe if Andorra had uefa president, Andorra refs would get this very special treatment
DeleteHope my ref Alkatiri make it to quarter final
ReplyDeleteHe will only act as support referees no more and also he is very poor referees, very undeserved and it was political decision from FIFA to use special designation for support referees but IMO they will only use only single game as FO, and another more deserved referee will be act as FO.
DeleteOT: Bundesliga top game on Friday
ReplyDeleteBayern München - Bayer Leverkusen: Daniel Schlager, Sven Waschitzki, Arno Blos, Florian Badstübner - Matthias Jöllenbeck, Jonas Weickenmeier
List of referees for AFCON 2023 preparatory course:
ReplyDeletehttps://ibb.co/w7DRdLw
Very poor to see some names in this list
DeleteCaf dont learn for its mistakes if the continu like this
Caf officials will take less match in 2026
Rossetti is like that, he takes very good care of what he really likes.
ReplyDeleteIt's worth little if they whistle well if not. What counts are the phone calls, the pats on the back, etc...
The result of this work is the terrible performances of the referees that we have been seeing lately.
Bravo Rossetti, you are number 1!
At least he deserves to read his surname spelled correctly...
DeleteThe same applies to Morten "Korgh". 😉
DeleteOT: does anyone know if Schärer and Dias are injured?
ReplyDeleteAnd Jovanović, he didn’t whistle in the Serbian Superliga yet this season?
I assume that you refer to a source like the following where "your" Mr. Jovanović seems to be confused with another one from Montenegro with the same assistants:
Deletehttps://www.weltfussball.de/schiedsrichter/srb-super-liga-2023-2024/1/
Bravo Atilla Karaoğlan uefa U 17 den sonra world cup 17 de
DeleteIt's basically normal for someone like Karaoglanto go to the U17 World Cup in his first year as international referee?
Delete@Peter, Transfermarkt same issue?
DeleteSeems so:
Deletehttps://www.transfermarkt.at/srdjan-jovanovic/profil/schiedsrichter/58841/saison_id/2023/wettbewerb_id/SER1
Regarding Karaoglan in his first year on the FIFA list:
ReplyDeleteHis selection is indeed quite remarkable.
However, he already did the U17 EURO final and a Conference League play-off (and the Turkish cup final) this year, so it looks like he is heavily pushed at the moment.
The other UEFA places simply go to U21 EURO KO stage referees, so one could have expected Lambrechts instead of the Turk.
Karaoglan is a very talent referee. Very reliable and consistent.
DeleteDidn’t watch him often, but he was horrible in last weeks U21 Swi-Fin (at least 1 missed RC and 5 missed YC), no consistency and very lenient, doing warnings over warnings. Reminded me a lot of Sanchez in horrible PSV-Rangers.
Delete"Atilla Karaoğlan is one of the worst referees in Turkey. He officiates with the support of UEFA Executive Committee member Servet Yardımcı. Despite making numerous fatal mistakes, he is untouchable. His appointment to officiate in major tournaments' finals is also thanks to Servet Yardımcı. You can be sure he is better protected than Joe Biden. Normally, referees who make such mistakes see the end of their careers in Turkey (e.g., Ali Palabıyık). However, you will soon see him elevated to the Elite Category. Now, I will demonstrate how poor of a referee he is with the penalties he awarded in two very important matches."
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1. https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/865184964
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2. https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/865184992
Now Krogh Definately is Denmarks nummer 1 with this appointment
ReplyDeleteNot spanish Referees?
ReplyDeleteVAR David Coote 😳😳🤢
ReplyDeleteAsian Cup Referees
ReplyDeletehttps://assets.the-afc.com/2023_AFC_Asian_Cup/Downloads/AFC-Asian-Cup-Qatar-2023%E2%84%A2-Match-Officials.pdf
Wow it was huge number of “poor” referees :) but nevertheless I think some name will be act as VAR specialist and if we look at 2019 then for some referees didn’t have their full team. Interesting to see Alireza Faghani present as representative of Australia not Iran, will he have the chance in 2026 as Australian representative? Or maybe like Irmatov in 2019, The Final in Qatar will be his farewell match.
DeleteIt all depends on how FIFA will see Faghani's age in 2026, when he will turn 48.
Delete2013 - Slavko Vincic (Euro U17)
ReplyDelete2013 - Matej Jug (Euro U21)
2013 - Damir Skomina (U20)
2015 - Matej Jug (U17)
2016 - Mitja Žganec (Euro U17)
2016 - Damir Skomina (Euro)
2017 - Slavko Vincic (Euro U21)
2017 - Slavko Vincic (U17)
2018 - Damir Skomina (WC)
2019 - Rade Obrenovic (Euro U17)
2019 - Slavko Vincic (U20)
2020 - Slavko Vincic (Euro)
2022 - Slavko Vincic (WC)
2023 - David Smajc (Euro U17)
2023 - Rade Obrenovic (Euro U21)
2023 - Rade Obrenovic (U17)
They succeed with Skomina and Vincic and failed with others and now Obrenovic with the same path as Vincic in 2017.
The question are that all Slovenian appointments based on merit? I don’t think so, especially when we look at Ceferin taking over UEFA in 2016. But we can’t said that was “nepotism” when someone can proving themself that they deserved to be at the tournament. So IMO based on 2023 Euro U21 performance (also with Eskas, Krogh, and Pinheiro), Obrenovic more than deserved to be chosen as main referee in Indonesia, maybe the others that “unlucky” is Fesnic and Rumsas (but he’s in Argentina).
Interesting to see who are his AR? Is Jure Praprotnik, former Skomina team will play a role like Erwin E.J. Zeinstra in Gozubuyuk team?
1) I think that more than Čeferin's, it's Šajn's influence and membership in UEFA referees commitee that leads to Slovenian referees being pushed within UEFA ranks or at least given the chance to do it.
ReplyDelete2) Despite 1), Slovenia has been doing a very good job in producing good referees in the last 10-15 years (Skomina, Vinčič, Jug, Obrenovič, possibly Šmajc), besides the political support it's a country clearly punching above its weight and Šajn is probably doing a very good job at home.
As a German I say: Slovenia did a very good job in the last years and has got a lot of top referees!
DeleteSlovenia doing good job?
DeleteMy question is: what if Vincic or Obrenovic are not from Slovenia but from another small country like Slovenia? Let's be honest if you push a normal referee all the time and you close one eye for every mistake he makes he makes its obvious that he would achieve something.
You also mentioned Smajc, from Euro U-17 until now one of most mediocre referee i have ever watched. Mistake after mistake and Ref com continue to push him.
It‘s very easy - would the slovenian referees have the same chances if they came from a country with a similar weak league as for example Bulgaria, Azerbaijan or moldavia? - I say never.
DeleteAnyone who knows a bit about international refereeing knows that the current situation with Ceferin and Sajn is an incredibly big advantage for the Slovenians.
That‘s a fact!
Same for italy and their referees who with exeption of Orsato would be mediocre 1st category refs at best.
DeleteNo referees from OFC are selected?
ReplyDeleteNope, indeed.
DeleteI thought Yareboinen would be selected
DeleteThis year selected for OFC Champions League final, his hope is to officiate at very high level, at World Cup.
DeleteThis tournament would have been definitely suitable for him, I think.
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/every-match-a-grand-final-ref-yareboinen-excited-for-challenge/
The fascination with Oceania never ceases to amaze me. The fact that it's its own confederation is a quirk of geography and political administration. And it's dominated by one nation anyway. Remove New Zealand and the matches in that confederation would effectively be amateur matches almost any place throughout Europe, the Americas, and beyond. The idea that referees in the South Pacific islands are likely to be up to snuff for elite level referee strains credulity. Even if there's a diamond in the rough to be found, why focus there and not elsewhere?
DeleteThe combined population of Oceania is just about 20M. By comparision, India has 1.4B, Indonesia has 275M, Pakistan has 240M, Nigeria has 220M and Bangladesh has 170M. All of those nations have either never had a World Cup referee or haven't had one in a long, long time. That's almost 2.5 billion people who don't have a referee representing them at the World Cup, yet some of us get fascinated with Fiji or Tahiti because of how FIFA chooses to organize itself.
Greece: It's Anastásios Papapétrou (VAR Anastásios Sidirópoulos) for PAOK - Áris and Artur Soares Dias (Hugo Miguel) for AEK - Olymbiakós.
ReplyDeleteIf I'm not wrong, no appointments so far in UEFA competitions for Sidiropoulos?
DeleteHe was injured and undergo surgery on his shoulder. He did pass the physical test quite recently.
DeleteFirst year's game for Artur Soares Dias if I am not wrong. Finally, UEFA sent elite referee to Greece
ReplyDeleteFellas anyone know info about Simone Sozza? That Fella Will handle Milan Derby this week
ReplyDeleteI talked about him in particular here on the blog, now just to write a few words, in my opinion a very good referee, who deserved the FIFA nomination. Nevertheless he had a very negative period for a quite long time (about a year). It seems as now he is recovering, the old Sozza, one year before nomination, was a real talent. Hopefully he will not lose himself by applying a certain style we saw in some games... he can reach very important goals.
DeleteI dont know how to feel about this appoitment.
DeleteOn one hand I'm happy for him,he gets chance to handle biggest match in Italy.
But on the other,concerned.
Why?
Well cause of his inconsistent form,lenient style and that could be problematic for this match that has plenty hotheads and when derby match is at stake,even players that are cold become fiery ones.
He has sometimes great way of managing players through talk,but waits too long with cards and in this big match,you dont have time for mistakes like that.
Yes,he handled big matches in couple of years,Milan vs Lazio,Inter vs Roma,Juve vs Fiorentina and so on,but this is different aninal.
Also,I hope that Rocchi and co.lear ed something about beneficiary factors of implementing new rules with bookings,player management and timewasting and that we will see changes in Italy.
If not, then it will be another matchday that's going to be frustrated to watch in terms of referreeing.
Hours before Maresca will handle Juve vs Lazio will be interesting to see how he performs cause this season he only had 2 Serie B matches and in those matches he showed 17 YC's and 3 RC's.
Also he was very giving UEC match where he showed 8 cards.
Could we say that Maresca rosso is back?
If I had to choose between these 2 ,I would rather choose Maresca's style cause it is most of the time textbook,when it's YC,there is no waiting,he shows YC.
I think that in terms of disciplinary control, he is one of rare,if not the only one that still has that old school mentality that Rocchi and Rizzoli had.
Anyway, hopefully we see great games and even better officiating.
#another overhyped italian
DeleteChampions league predictions for next week?
ReplyDeleteYou can find some under
Deletehttp://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2023/09/202324-european-qualifiers-referee_7.html
Young Boys - Leipzig: Jorgi
ReplyDeleteAC Milan - Newcastle: Gozubuyuk
Manchester City - Crvena Zvezda: Nyberg
PSG - Dortmund: Gil Manzano
Feyenoord - Celtic: Jovanovic
Lazio - Atlético de Madrid: Letexier
Barcelona - Royal Antwerp: Pjelto
Shakhtar Donetsk - Porto: Zwayer
Real Madrid - Union Berlin: Rumsas
Galatasaray - Copenhague: Arthur Dias
Braga - Napoli: Vincic
Bayern Munich - Manchester United: Makkelie
Benfica - Salzburg: Oliver
Real Sociedad - Inter Milan: Taylor
Sevilla - Lens: Kabakov
Arsenal - PSV: Massa
As a NL based person, it would surprise me to see Gozubuyuk in a big game like that. KNVB appointed him in 2nd league game today which normally leads a game on Tuesday and potentially ‘something big’, however I considered he might have the Classico (24 Sep) which could also explain the low profile game today
DeleteEL predictions:
ReplyDeleteWest Ham - Backa Topola: Lindhout
Olympiacos - Freiburg: Grinfeeld
Ajax - Olympique de Marseille: Hernandez Hernandez
Brighton - AEK: Di Bello
Sparta Prague - Aris Limassol: Obrenovic
Rangers - Real Betis: Dabanovic
Atalanta Bergamo - Rakow Czestochowa: Tohver
Strum Graz - Sporting: Aranovskyi
Union Saint_gilloise - Toulouse: Morten Krogh
LASK - Liverpool: Meler
Panathinaikos - Villarreal: Stieler
Stade Rennais - Maccabi Haifa: Frankowski
Sheriff Tiraspol - AS Roma: Turpin
Servette - Slavia Prague: Kruashvili
Qarabag - Molde: Petrescu
Bayer Leverkusen - BK Hacken: Eskas
ECL predictions:
ReplyDeleteLille - Olimpija Ljubljana: Lambrechts
Slovan Bratislava - Klaksvik: Masiyev
Zorya Luhansk - KAA Gent: Pawson
Maccabi Tel Aviv - Breidablik: Nalbandyan
Viktoria Plzen - Ballkani: Van der Eijk
Dinamo Zagreb - Astana: Sozza
Lugano - Bodo/Glimt: Fotias
Club Brugge - Besiktas: Delajod
Zrinjski Mostar - AZ: Guida
Legia Warszawa - Aston Villa: Lukjančukas
KRC Genk - Fiorentina: Stegemann
HJK Helsinki - PAOK: Minakovic
Frankfurt - Aberdeen: Schnyder
Ludogorets - Spartak Trnava: Al-Hakim
Fenerbahce - Nordsjaelland: John Brooks
Sander van der Eijk has a match in the Youth league (PSG - Dortmund). Based on the domestic appointments, I expect Joey Kooij to be in the ECL.
DeleteI didn’t check all domestic appointments, but here we go:
ReplyDeleteFeyenoord - Celtic: Meler
Lazio - Atletico Madrid: Turpin
Milan - Newcastle: Manzano
PSG - Dortmund: Kovacs
Young boys - Leipzig: Jorgji
Man City - Crvena Zvezda: Gozubuyuk
Barcelona - Antwerp: Orsato
Shakhtar Donetsk - Porto: Kruzliak
Galatasaray - Copenhagen: Sanchez
Bayern München - Man Utd: Letexier
Sevilla - PSV: Vincic
Real Madrid - Union Berlin: Nyberg
Braga - Napoli: Zwayer
Benfica - Salzburg: Taylor
Sociedad - Inter: Siebert
@X: Sevilla - PSV is scheduled to be played on matchday 5 at the end of November. You missed Sevilla - Lens and Arsenal - PSV instead.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
DeleteI tried to make predictions for MD1 and MD2 as one set, cause the ref com did the same thing, but thats where things got confused 😀 It seems almost impossible to not repeat a MD1 referee for MD2
I’d predict:
Arsenal - PSV: Vincic
Sevilla - Lens: Massa
DFB and DFL have published guidelines for their referees today.
ReplyDeleteMainly obvious statements but still a new step of transparency to have those guidelines as a presentation in the public domain.
Probably understandable with an online translator, if you are interested:
https://assets.dfb.de/uploads/000/290/704/original_Leitbild_Leitlinien_Elite-SR.pdf?1694718236
Also some parts of the latest Bundesliga referee documentary can be found on YouTube (where you can use subtitle translation to some extent)
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/@sportschau/search?query=unparteiisch
Philipp, unfortunately I can't watch it here, I'm outside of Europe. :/
DeleteMine predictions:
ReplyDeleteYoung Boys - Leipzig: JORGJI
AC Milan - Newcastle: VINCIC
Manchester City - Crvena ZveVda: SOARES DIAS
PSG - Dortmund: MARCINIAK
Feyenoord - Celtic: JOVANOVIC
Lazio - Atlético de Madrid: ZWAYER
Barcelona - Royal Antwerp: MELER
Shakhtar Donetsk - Porto: COLLUM
Real Madrid - Union Berlin: GUZUBUYUK
Galatasaray - Copenhaghen: MARIANI
Braga - Napoli: BASTIEN
Bayern Munich - Manchester United: MAKKELIE
Benfica - Salzburg: EKBERG
Real Sociedad - Inter Milan: TAYLOR
Sevilla - Lens: STIELER
Arsenal - PSV: SIEBERT
I red just now that Ekberg has asked a temporary break from refereeing for personal issues and reasons. Hope everything is going well for him. I would replace him in my above prediction with Grenfeeld
DeleteAfter Mike Dean, another referee talks about the difficulties of being VAR. The interview is in Italian, but the highlights is “as a VAR sometimes you can feel what the referee would feel at the monitor and you avoid to ruin the ref’s day. This should not happen”
ReplyDeleteWhat is your opinion?
Of course Dean’s words were worse but still I don’t really like that such an experienced ref - most probably the best VAR in the last years - releases such statements.
https://www.sportface.it/calcio/serie-a/irrati-a-volte-chi-e-al-var-rischia-di-solidarizzare-con-arbitro-che-sbaglia-non-rovinargli-la-giornata/2295478
DeletePhantom 11m by Schläger…
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely not phantom, I do have a bit of doubts regarding clear and obvious though. The clash between the feet surely means the final decision has to be supported
DeleteClear PK
DeleteSchläger doesn't manage to referee big games without getting into trouble/discussions afterwards. Soft PK. he still has a lot to learn. I thought his facial expression looked very frightened.
ReplyDeleteIndonesia vs Ecuador for the opening match, what’s your prediction? IMO UEFA No.1 will be the referee, for me UEFA No.1 is between Eskas or Pinheiro, but I can’t exclude Obrenovic. The VAR surely I predict Di Paolo.
ReplyDeleteI don't think, this pairing really needs a big name, so I am going with Pierre Atcho (with Benbraham as VAR) for the opening match (which isn't even the first game of the tournament...).
DeleteBut I agree that Pinheiro and Eskas are the top names in the tournament, probably together with Ko, who is quite experienced in AFC and K-League.
CAF officials for the opening match? Is it “possible” with the trend recently.
DeleteI think Indonesia v Ecuador really needs big name, I expect Pinheiro, because this is Indonesia first match, in front of Indonesian supporter, so much scrutiny for the referee, and appointing big name means respect for Indonesian host
DeleteI don't think the Gabonese is right for this match. This match needs European as the referee
Eventhough this is not the first match, this is the match where president will attend, presidential candidates attend, politicians attend, opening ceremony will happen, so of course all eyes must be on the referee, Indonesian media will scrutinize every single referee that is appointed to Indonesian matches
DeleteI don’t know how you rate “opening match” of the tournament, but iinm opening “host” match of the FIFA tournament always give the stage for big name and final candidate, isn’t it?
Delete@Philipp can you give an example when opening match of the tournament use “unorthodox” referee?
U17WC 2017: Vargas, U17WC 2015: AlJassim
DeleteU20WC 2019: Ghorbal
I think, those weren't among the biggest names at the time - without much international experience at that point.
And of course Irmatov 2010 is the classic example...
Yes in certain degree I agree, IDNECU could be the best game to try the best unpredicted names from the refcom but I don’t think his background would help him, it’s different case with names you mentioned at that time iinm, maybe only one similarity between those, their age. Vargas, Ghorbal, and Irmatov from “big enough” confederation/nations. Al Jassim clearly in preparation for Qatar 2022 (Abd. Abdou’s age not support the situation).
DeleteWomen To Officiate At AFC Asian Cup 2023 in QATAR For The First Time Ever.
ReplyDeleteThe AFC choose 5 women's referees.
2 referee .
3 assisant referee.