2024-25 UEFA Nations League. Please find below the appointments for MD4.
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| Giorgi Kruashvili GEO in charge of Finland - England |
League B, Group 3
15:00 CET - Almaty (Almaty Ortalyq Stadion)
KAZAKHSTAN - SLOVENIA
Referee: Craig Pawson ENG
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts ENG
Assistant Referee 2: Neil Davies ENG
Fourth Official: Darren Bond ENG
Video Assistant Referee: Peter Bankes ENG
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Andrew Madley ENG
UEFA Referee Observer: Karel Vidlák CZE
UEFA Delegate: Metin Kazancıoğlu TUR
League B, Group 2
18:00 CET - Helsinki (Helsingin Olympiastadion)
FINLAND - ENGLAND
Referee: Giorgi Kruashvili GEO
Assistant Referee 1: Levan Varamishvili GEO
Assistant Referee 2: Zaza Pipia GEO
Fourth Official: Giorgi Avazashvili GEO
Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot FRA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Aleko Aptsiauri GEO
UEFA Referee Observer: Jørn West Larsen DEN
UEFA Delegate: Edgars Pukinsks LVA
League C, Group 4
18:00 CET - Yerevan (Vazgen Sargsyan anvan Hanrapetakan Marzadasht)
ARMENIA - NORTH MACEDONIA
Referee: Stuart Attwell ENG
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt ENG
Assistant Referee 2: Akil Howson ENG
Fourth Official: Tony Harrington ENG
Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh ENG
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sian Massey-Ellis ENG
UEFA Referee Observer: Gediminas Mažeika LTU
UEFA Delegate: Geórgios Fandáros CYP
League D, Group 1
18:00 CET - Vaduz (Rheinpark Stadion)
LIECHTENSTEIN - GIBRALTAR
Referee: Horațiu Mircea Feșnic ROU
Assistant Referee 1: Valentin Gabriel Avram ROU
Assistant Referee 2: Alexandru Cerei ROU
Fourth Official: Szabolcs Kovacs ROU
Video Assistant Referee: Ovidiu Alin Haţegan ROU
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Adrian Sorin Costreie ROU
UEFA Referee Observer: Kristinn Jakobsson ISL
UEFA Delegate: Alpaslan Kavas TUR
League D, Group 2
18:00 CET - Ta’ Qali (National Stadium)
MALTA - MOLDOVA
Referee: John Brooks ENG
Assistant Referee 1: Simon Bennett ENG
Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Robathan ENG
Fourth Official: Samuel Barrott ENG
Video Assistant Referee: Michael Salisbury ENG
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Timothy Wood ENG
UEFA Referee Observer: Robert Schörgenhofer AUT
UEFA Delegate: Claudius Macher GER
Friendly Match
18:00 CET - Andorra la Vella (Estadi Nacional d’Andorra)
ANDORRA - SAN MARINO
Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera ESP
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero Sevilla ESP
Assistant Referee 2: Iván Massó Granado ESP
Fourth Official: Marta San Juan Casado AND
League B, Group 2
20:45 CET - Piraeus (Stádio Geórgios Karaïskákis)
GREECE - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Referee: Joey Kooij NED
Assistant Referee 1: Joost van Zuilen NED
Assistant Referee 2: Patrick Inia NED
Fourth Official: Jannick van der Laan NED
Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jeroen Manschot NED
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez ESP
UEFA Delegate: Könül Mehtiyeva AZE
League B, Group 3
20:45 CET - Linz (Raiffeisen Arena)
AUSTRIA - NORWAY
Referee: Tamás Bognár HUN
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás HUN
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor HUN
Fourth Official: Gergő Bogár HUN
Video Assistant Referee: István Vad HUN
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ferenc Karakó HUN
UEFA Referee Observer: Giorgi Vadachkoria GEO
UEFA Delegate: Darko Ramovš SRB
League C, Group 4
20:45 CET - Tórshavn (Tórsvøllur)
FAROE ISLANDS - LATVIA
Referee: Philip Farrugia MLT
Assistant Referee 1: Alan Camilleri MLT
Assistant Referee 2: Duncan Sultana MLT
Fourth Official: Matthew De Gabriele MLT
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Silvio Mazzoleni ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Valerio Marini ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Volodymyr Petrov UKR
UEFA Delegate: Marko Simeunovič SVN
League B, Group 2
20:45 CET - Piraeus (Stádio Geórgios Karaïskákis)
GREECE - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Referee: Joey Kooij NED
Assistant Referee 1: Joost van Zuilen NED
Assistant Referee 2: Patrick Inia NED
Fourth Official: Jannick van der Laan NED
Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jeroen Manschot NED
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez ESP
UEFA Delegate: Könül Mehtiyeva AZE
League B, Group 3
20:45 CET - Linz (Raiffeisen Arena)
AUSTRIA - NORWAY
Referee: Tamás Bognár HUN
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás HUN
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor HUN
Fourth Official: Gergő Bogár HUN
Video Assistant Referee: István Vad HUN
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ferenc Karakó HUN
UEFA Referee Observer: Giorgi Vadachkoria GEO
UEFA Delegate: Darko Ramovš SRB
League C, Group 4
20:45 CET - Tórshavn (Tórsvøllur)
FAROE ISLANDS - LATVIA
Referee: Philip Farrugia MLT
Assistant Referee 1: Alan Camilleri MLT
Assistant Referee 2: Duncan Sultana MLT
Fourth Official: Matthew De Gabriele MLT
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Silvio Mazzoleni ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Valerio Marini ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Volodymyr Petrov UKR
UEFA Delegate: Marko Simeunovič SVN
Monday 14 October 2024
League B, Group 1
18:00 CET - Tbilisi (Mikheil Meskhis Stadioni)
GEORGIA - ALBANIA
Referee: Danny Makkelie NED
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra NED
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries NED
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout NED
Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Erwin Blank NED
UEFA Referee Observer: Viktor Shvetsov UKR
UEFA Delegate: Alina Capațîna MDA
League C, Group 1
18:00 CET - Baku (Tofiq Bəhramov adına Respublika Stadionu)
AZERBAIJAN - SLOVAKIA
Referee: Rohit Saggi NOR
Assistant Referee 1: Morten Jensen NOR
Assistant Referee 2: Anders Olav Dale NOR
Fourth Official: Sigurd Smehus Kringstad NOR
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tom Harald Hagen NOR
UEFA Referee Observer: Vadims Direktorenko LVA
UEFA Delegate: Edlira Jaupaj Sherifaj ALB
League A, Group 2
20:45 CET - Udine (Bluenergy Stadium)
ITALY - ISRAEL
Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea ESP
Assistant Referee 1: Iker de Francisco Grijalba ESP
Assistant Referee 2: Alfredo Rodríguez Moreno ESP
Fourth Official: Pablo González Fuertes ESP
Video Assistant Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande ESP
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Adrián Cordero Vega ESP
UEFA Referee Observer: Rusmir Mrković BIH
UEFA Delegate: Thura Win ENG
League A, Group 2
20:45 CET - Brussels (Koning Boudewijnstadion)
BELGIUM - FRANCE
Referee: Irfan Peljto BIH
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrišimbegović BIH
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo BIH
Fourth Official: Luka Bilbija BIH
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski POL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Pskit POL
UEFA Referee Observer: Kjell Gunnar Alseth NOR
UEFA Delegate: Neil Morrow NIR
League A, Group 3
20:45 CET - Munich (Allianz Arena)
GERMANY - NETHERLANDS
Referee: Slavko Vinčič SVN
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik SVN
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič SVN
Fourth Official: David Šmajc SVN
Video Assistant Referee: Nejc Kajtazovič SVN
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alen Borošak SVN
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alen Borošak SVN
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín ESP
UEFA Delegate: Aristídis Stavrópoulos GRE
League A, Group 3
20:45 CET - Zenica (Stadion Bilino polje)
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA - HUNGARY
Referee: Anthony Taylor ENG
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick ENG
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn ENG
Fourth Official: Darren England ENG
Video Assistant Referee: David Coote ENG
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Constantine Hatzidakis ENG
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Constantine Hatzidakis ENG
UEFA Referee Observer: Cyril Zimmermann SUI
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj ESP
League B, Group 1
20:45 CET - Wrocław, POL (Tarczyński Arena Wrocław)
UKRAINE - CZECHIA
Referee: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández ESP
Assistant Referee 1: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso ESP
Assistant Referee 2: Íñigo Prieto López de Ceraín ESP
Fourth Official: Miguel Ángel Ortiz Arias ESP
Video Assistant Referee: José Luis Munuera Montero ESP
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Valentín Pizarro Gómez ESP
UEFA Referee Observer: Christopher Lautier MLT
UEFA Delegate: Cenk Cem TUR
Mentor for Delegate: Peadar Ryan IRL
League B, Group 4
20:45 CET - Reykjavík (Laugardalsvöllur)
ICELAND - TÜRKİYE
Referee: Damian Sylwestrzak POL
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki POL
Assistant Referee 2: Bartosz Kaszyński POL
Fourth Official: Marcin Kochanek POL
Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Malec POL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Krzysztof Myrmus POL
Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Malec POL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Krzysztof Myrmus POL
UEFA Referee Observer: Milorad Mažić SRB
UEFA Delegate: David Findlay SCO
League B, Group 4
20:45 CET - Cardiff (Cardiff City Stadium)
WALES - MONTENEGRO
Referee: Filip Glova SVK
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Poláček SVK
Assistant Referee 2: Peter Bednár SVK
Fourth Official: Lukáš Dzivjak SVK
Video Assistant Referee: Michal Očenáš SVK
Video Assistant Referee: Michal Očenáš SVK
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Martin Dohál SVK
UEFA Referee Observer: Kostadin Gerginov BUL
UEFA Delegate: Kris Bellon BEL
League C, Group 1
20:45 CET - Tallinn (A. Le Coq Arena)
ESTONIA - SWEDEN
Referee: Juxhin Xhaja ALB
Assistant Referee 1: Arbër Zalla ALB
Assistant Referee 2: Rejdi Avdo ALB
Fourth Official: Albert Doda ALB
Video Assistant Referee: Kreshnik Barjamaj ALB
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Olsion Yzeiraj ALB
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Olsion Yzeiraj ALB
UEFA Referee Observer: Mark Steven Whitby WAL
UEFA Delegate: Garry O’Hagan SCO
Tuesday 15 October 2024
League A, Group 1
20:45 CET - Warsaw (PGE Narodowy)
POLAND - CROATIA
Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández ESP
Assistant Referee 1: José Enrique Naranjo Pérez ESP
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Sánchez Rojo ESP
Fourth Official: Juan Luis Pulido Santana ESP
Video Assistant Referee: César Soto Grado ESP
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jorge Figueroa Vázquez ESP
UEFA Referee Observer: Sabri Çelik TUR
UEFA Delegate: Thibault De Gendt BEL
League A, Group 1
20:45 CET - Glasgow (Hampden Park)
SCOTLAND - PORTUGAL
Referee: Lawrence Visser BEL
Assistant Referee 1: Rien Vanyzere BEL
Assistant Referee 2: Thibaud Nijssen BEL
Fourth Official: Simon Bourdeaud’hui BEL
Video Assistant Referee: Bram Van Driessche BEL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jan Boterberg BEL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jan Boterberg BEL
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefano Podeschi SMR
UEFA Delegate: Patrick Dempsey IRL
League A, Group 4
20:45 CET - Córdoba (Estadio Municipal Nuevo Arcángel)
SPAIN - SERBIA
Referee: Daniel Stefański POL
Assistant Referee 1: Dawid Golis POL
Assistant Referee 2: Michał Obukowicz POL
Fourth Official: Wojciech Myć POL
Video Assistant Referee: Piotr Lasyk POL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Raczkowski POL
Video Assistant Referee: Piotr Lasyk POL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Raczkowski POL
UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec FRA
UEFA Delegate: Michael O’Brien ENG
League A, Group 4
20:45 CET - St Gallen (Kybunpark)
SWITZERLAND - DENMARK
Referee: Halil Umut Meler TUR
Assistant Referee 1: Kerem Ersoy TUR
Assistant Referee 2: İbrahim Çağlar Uyarcan TUR
Fourth Official: Arda Kardeşler TUR
Video Assistant Referee: Gianluca Aureliano ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Daniele Doveri ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: David Malcolm NIR
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell-Zor SVN
League C, Group 2
20:45 CET - Kaunas (Dariaus ir Girėno stadionas)
LITHUANIA - ROMANIA
Referee: Nicholas Walsh SCO
Assistant Referee 1: Graeme Stewart SCO
Assistant Referee 2: Calum Spence SCO
Fourth Official: Christopher Graham SCO
Video Assistant Referee: John Beaton SCO
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ross Hardie SCO
UEFA Referee Observer: Viktor Kassai HUN
UEFA Delegate: Hayri Çavuşoğlu TUR
League C, Group 2
20:45 CET - Pristina (Stadiumi “Fadil Vokrri”)
KOSOVO - CYPRUS
Referee: Matej Jug SVN
Assistant Referee 1: Matej Žunič SVN
Assistant Referee 2: Manuel Vidali SVN
Fourth Official: Dejan Balažič SVN
Video Assistant Referee: Asmir Sagrković SVN
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Rade Obrenovič SVN
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Rade Obrenovič SVN
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz TUR
UEFA Delegate: Sergei Hohlov-Simson EST
League C, Group 3
20:45 CET - Belfast (National Football Stadium at Windsor Park)
NORTHERN IRELAND - BULGARIA
Referee: Jérôme Brisard FRA
Assistant Referee 1: Alexis Auger FRA
Assistant Referee 2: Benjamin Pagès FRA Nicolas Danos FRA
Fourth Official: Mathieu Vernice FRA
Video Assistant Referee: Eric Wattellier FRA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastien Dechepy FRA
UEFA Referee Observer: Michal Beneš CZE
UEFA Delegate: Alexander Gruber AUT
Mentor for Delegate: Scott Struthers SCO
League C, Group 3
20:45 CET - Zalaegerszeg, HUN (ZTE Aréna)
BELARUS - LUXEMBOURG
Referee: Atilla Karaoğlan TUR
Assistant Referee 1: Ceyhun Sesigüzel TUR
Assistant Referee 2: Abdullah Bora Özkara TUR
Fourth Official: Direnç Tonusluoğlu TUR
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sören Storks GER
UEFA Referee Observer: Fredy Fautrel FRA
UEFA Delegate: Igor Radojčić SRB
How is this? Belgium was supposed to play against France on Sunday, not Monday. The first leg was on Thursday and the second leg was on Sunday, not Monday.
ReplyDeleteWhere did you read that it was on Sunday?
DeleteUEFA says on Monday at 20:45 together with Italy - Israel.
I don't read any news about a change of date.
https://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/match/2040133/
My brother, what I mean is that France and Belgium played their matches on Thursday, so their match should be on Sunday, not Monday.
DeleteWhat are your predictions for the referees of Monday's matches Belgium vs France / Germany vs Netherlands?
ReplyDeleteInteresting that atwell and pawson got games I would have expected one of the other first category England,madly,gillet,jones
ReplyDeleteCategory 2 must get games as well. Once demoted, the game in Kazakstan is a classic one for a referee belonging to this category. While I think Attwell in Armenia, for such a clash, must be absolutely watched. A totally different concept of football between th two national teams, if compared to Premier League games... hopefully he will be aware about which kind of game he will officiate.
DeleteI think Craig Pawson has been give game due to retire end of year from fifa list.
DeleteMaybe its a goodbye game for Attwell. Maybe he's stepping down as FIFA ref at end of the year and just staying on as a VAR specialist. Think Tierney got his only World Cup qualifying game as a goodbye gesture for stepping down early. Attwell has never had a NL or WCQ game before so could be that?
ReplyDeleteA short "journey" on the other side of the world :-)
ReplyDeleteFIFA World Cup 2026 Qualifiers – OFC (Round 2, Matchday 1)
10-12 October 2024
New Caledonia – Papua New Guinea Referee: Campbell-Kirk Kawana-Waugh (NZL)
Solomon Islands – Fiji Referee: Norbert Hauata (TAH)
New Zealand – Tahiti Referee: Mederic Lacour (NCL)
I continue to find Vinčič' journey as a referee “intriguing”.
ReplyDeleteIn 2022 Vinčič was assigned to the Europa League final, while a bald Polish referee was better. This was planned after a committee member observed the Slovenian in the quarter-final.
What followed was a terrible European season in 22/23. In June 2023, he was all of a sudden appointed to the semi’s of the Nations League (Spain vs Italy) under observation by Kuipers. On paper a nice appointment; in practice a semi-friendly. Players were tired after a long season.
In August 2023, at the start of the new season, Vinčič was observed by Rizzoli. The big test followed in MD3 (PSG-AC Milan). After that, Vinčič was a bit hidden, kept away from the brightest spotlights, in order to whistle the UCL final at the end of the season. That deal was settled before the winter break (just like Soares Dias was given the Conference League final). Vinčič’ biggest highlight of 2024 was obviously Poland-Estonia ;-)
After the UCL final 2024, two early appearances followed at the EURO 2024 (MD1 and MD2). At least the Slovenian crew finally started to see some big teams again like Italy and Spain, but still early at the tournament hence not decisive for qualification thus “safe”. After that problematic MD2 game, team Vinčič could put their feet up and relax, in anticipation of an already booked semi-final.
And now, after the UCL final and European Championship, Vinčič is officially “settled” as one of the top names within UEFA refereeing.
This journey shows how politically driven UEFA’s motivations and policy are. UEFA can (carefully!) guide a referee to the top, by avoiding the most risky appointments, as long as they want to — or if there are powers or other “influences" that require Rosetti to do so.
Sylwetrzak's intensive autumn. Nations League League C Slovakia Azerbaijan, Europa League Olympiakos - Braga (observer Sajn), now Nations League league B Iceland Turkey. With a satisfactory level of refereeing in this match, he has a chance to debut in the Champions League in my opinion
ReplyDeleteThe main reason why Sylwestrzak is pushed so much recently is Marciniak’s injury.
DeleteYou're wrong. Marciniak refereed last week in the Polish Ekstraklasa. Besides, Marciniak and Sylwestrzak are on another level.
DeleteIt was reported here that Marciniak didn’t pass the fitness test at the summer course. Poland needs more representation/referees at the highest level, therefore Sylwestrzak is monitored closely and pushed towards a debut.
DeleteWell, it's true that Marciniak failed the tests and is closer to the end of his career than the beginning, Raczkowski and Frankowski ... we all know what they did, Stefański is ending his career, Kos and Kuźma are rookies. So Sylwestrzak is on a straight way to being number 1 in Poland and Marciniak's natural successor in the elite.
DeleteLetexier with a moderate performance Missed a hit by Tah to Dzeko.
ReplyDeleteThis cause unrest in the Side.
(Bosnia-Germany)
Makkelie unfortunately getting the crumbs again, just to say he's got game. And finally, fortunately, someone has woken up and is watching the I. Peljto's games and see that he is one of the best uefa referees out there giving to him one of the top games in the NationsLeague…
ReplyDeleteA very strong game for Stefański, probably a farewell match... I expected an elite or strong referee in this match, category 1
ReplyDeleteYes, correct what you say. At moment, given the demotion, this is on paper something more than what he could have got (see other referees, like Pawson, in the same situation). So I think it's possible it will be a farewell, for a very experienced Category 1. Even if today committee doesn't use anymore to do so, for a Nations League game, it seems still possible.
DeleteQuestion: Why will the match between Belgium 🇧🇪 and France 🇫🇷 be played on Monday and not today, Sunday? The match was supposed to be played on Sunday night, as far as I know. Previously, during international breaks, teams played Euro qualifiers, World Cup qualifiers, or European Nations League matches. Two rounds were played in each international break. The matches were played on Thursday, Friday, Saturday / Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. For example, the teams that played their matches on Thursday get a 3-day break and play their matches again on Sunday. The teams that played their matches on Friday do the same thing. They play again on Monday. The teams that played their matches on Saturday play again on Tuesday, and the international break ends. But now, during this break, France played on Thursday. They were supposed to play on Sunday. Why did UEFA decide to play on Monday and get an additional 4-day break?
ReplyDeleteMaybe UEFA wanted a day with more focus on the lower divisions, because usually League A get all the media exposure and not so much for the others. That's the only (somewhat) logical explanation I could think of
DeleteThe reason is that there are elections in Belgium today.
DeleteBrooks whistled two corrct penalties without needing VAR, first one clear contact, second for handball.
ReplyDeleteLIE - GIB, Fesnic
ReplyDelete60' Disallowed goal after VAR intervention for ball out of play, overturned AR decision, no evidence shown. I wonder how Haţegan did that.
https://streambug.org/cv/908305
90'+2 Penalty whistled and second YC. Not a fully clear situation to me. VAR supported.
https://streambug.org/cv/6213ab
Austria - Norway
ReplyDeleteMissed mandatory YC by Bognar in 45' (only foul given). Then correct YC in 46', but inconsistent disciplinary action.
Penalty incident in 47'. Action by Norwegian defender assassed as careless and YC given for DOGSO.
DeleteDoubtful penalty for me but again if given I understand VAR not intervening
DeleteSorry, but finding one case of not brandishing a YC without assessing the whole performance might be misleading the readers. As for the penalty decision - it was a very sensible detection of a player (Hanche-Olsen) deliberately fralling to the ground in order to impede an opponent (Baumgartner) and prevent him from shooting at goal. There were many cases of applying the advantage rule, hence assisting the fluidity and flow of of the game. One perfect example was the booking of Berge following a perfect advantage to the Austrian team after a nasty foul committed by the Norwegian player. Excellent piece of refereeing.
DeleteThe mentioned incidents:
Delete28'
YC after advantage, a good decision to let game flow before booking.
https://streambug.org/cv/b01927
45'+1
https://streambug.org/cv/da23c8
For me, a very clear YC for reckless.
45'+2
https://streambug.org/cv/33b387
Reported by AR1, otherwise referee would have missed this one as well. Clear YC.
Penalty
https://streambug.org/cv/68f82f
Classic case of careless action, supportable decision, it is clearly a DOGSO and one should wonder whether defender wanted to play ball? Surely not, so for me RC to be given, but again, in such situations it seems as YC is always prefered. I strongly disagree on that read.
Did anyone see Kooij's match? I'm very curious how he has done it (that he hasn't been mentioned here yet is already positive)
ReplyDeleteWill take a look later, if possible.
DeleteFurther clips from BUL - LUX.
ReplyDelete5' Violent conduct?
https://streambug.org/cv/5ed7a0
That's deliberate because Bulgarian player aware of the opponent.
One must say that the VAR Alen Borošak decided to leave the referee alone, in all the situations in which he could have intervened. Let's include also the very possible RC for SFP in 64'.
50' Management
https://streambug.org/cv/734343
Maybe a "physical" intervention by AR2, who had clearly noticed the altercation between players, would have prevented what then happened later. I think assistant referees shouldn't be afraid to step in and working for the referee, if needed. In this case an observer could give him some faults for the missed alertness, even if he warned the players by words (not enough).
@Chefren and others,
ReplyDeleteThe observer in Leipzig-Liverpool has been released after a pretty long delay; Milorad Mažic it is. I thought the Serbian is well-known for observing young talent and involved in the Talent and Mentor program, hence a younger referee seems possible. The game itself is too big for a debut, isn’t it? With Leipzig-Real Madrid still fresh in our mind. The game in Leipzig could be an open tie imo. Will be interesting to find out the referee; I think the delay might be caused by a Nations League game — e.g. the referee was appointed to a bigger game in Nations League / or the Refcom wasn’t sure about his form, hence used the Nations League game as a form check.
Yes it's possible that the delay was for Nations League game, but well, at the same time one should wonder why only for that game with so many to be apppointed?
DeleteMilorad Mazic very often observed regular and experienced Elite referees as well, so we can't be sure there will be a young referee in Leipzig. The game wouldn't allow 100% this choice, I agree, but looking at the recent way of appointing by committee, one shouldn't be surprised in case of such a choice. German teams are always seen in a very different way, and here we have an English club against a German, the best tie, on paper, to avoid risks that a referee can face in games involving Spanish, Italian, Portuguese teams.. you know. So I'm very curious as well.
Also, interesting to notice that after a certain time of break, Mazic and Cakir seem to be again active as UEFA observers, I think they still work for Russian federation, but I thought that they were not appointed anymore for this reason...
True, that’s exactly the question: why just for this game? There must be a special reason :)
DeleteSome thoughts:
Eskås had a game that involved Italy. Possible that Rosetti wanted to see his performance first. Moreover, a couple of Italian referees made an early appearance in Nations League. Perhaps it will be one of them (the best one?). We know how Rosetti works :)
Another prediction could be Kovács who has been out for an entire month. I think the observer was released after his game in Croatia.
Joey Kooij in Greece - Ireland
ReplyDelete4' Penalty area incident
https://streambug.org/cv/1766b2
To me, a penalty you can give but not an expected whistle, as the effect on the attacker was not significant (the latter was already about to shot).
23' Possible YC
https://streambug.org/cv/9c556b
Maybe not an immediate SPA, but in my opinion deliberate and very dangerous action by Irish player, impeding the opponent with a certain force. The player should have been booked, for me this one belongs to an expected yellow card. A very calm game until the minute before, contributed to NO CARD decision by referee, I think.
37' Possible YC for holding
https://streambug.org/cv/2096ff
Another situation in which a card could have been issued by referee, Greek player impeded in his action to get ball, possible to book, but referee still decided to whistle only foul. For me, the possible previous YC was in case more YC than this one, but this could have been issued as well, with a different approach.
39' Troubles with laser used by fans. Communication to UEFA official.
https://streambug.org/cv/58e611
45' YC for holding - reckless arm
https://streambug.org/cv/5156e8
Called by AR1 who was close, I think that both arguments are weak, but in reality the player is impeded and the result is still a foul. A card that was not accepted by Greek side due to the possible bookings to Ireland before, and one must agree, if this was YC, then at least one of the previous two should have been issued.
46' Management
https://streambug.org/cv/cb935c
63' Possible YC for reckless action by Irish player, putting the leg there, but very difficult to spot.
https://streambug.org/cv/c078ae
71' Correct YC for reckless action
https://streambug.org/cv/382dc8
In my opinion, clearly no more than reckless, agree with NO VAR intervention, no evidence that this was SFP / deliberate action.
84' Soft foul
https://streambug.org/cv/a2867b
Definitely not enough to whistle, in my opinion. Should have played on. Possible attacking chance for IRE.
86' PAI, involving #3 IRE #20 GRE
https://streambug.org/cv/157f99
Not a closer replay to judge better, but no protests by Irish player, maybe mutual holding, impossible to say.
Definitely not a challenging game for the Dutch referee in Greece. It was fair. He could have done better with the cards in first half, but not a big issue. It could be assessed a bit below the expected level, but stil an OK performance. Very good booking in 71' for me, mandatory. You can support the penalty area incidents both in first and second half. A certain communication with players was ensured, but rather not a hard affair in this game.
Thank you very much for these clips!
Delete84 is a clear foul, why? The Irish player pushes the Greek, and because of that The Greek Lost the ball, and the Irish got the advantage off that.......and goal opportunity......perfect call by Kooij!
DeleteI watched Gibraltar-San Marino today: well done Felix Zwayer. This was absolutely a good performance by the German no1 in a game where he had little to gain and much to lose. Despite a number of yellow cards issued (eleven) comparable to Tohver's (fourteen) in his D1 fixture last month, Zwayer did a far (far) better job than the Estonian and always had the game under his grasp.
ReplyDeleteBookings were issued in the match for the following reasons:
🇸🇲 10’ -- SPA (holding)
🇸🇲 15’ -- Reckless sliding tackle
🇬🇮 17’ -- Reckless play
🇬🇮 23’ -- RST
🇸🇲 59’ -- RST
🇸🇲 63’ -- Dissent
🇸🇲 75’ -- RST
🇬🇮 78’ -- RST
🇸🇲 83’ -- Dissent
🇸🇲 87’ -- SPA (challenge)
🇸🇲 93’ -- Aggressive Behaviour
The game was quite challenging on both a foul recognition and disciplinary level, but not for key match incidents, where one can only discuss these two 'penalty area blocking/impeding' episodes:
1> https://www.streambug.io/cv/7482b0
2> https://www.streambug.io/cv/c2b73b
Good job by Felix Zwayer, who if he felt like 'a big fish in a small pond' on this evening, hid it very well and delivered a strong performance in this bohemian game.
:D
DeleteSending off by Saggi in AZE - SVK.
ReplyDeleteFirst YC, dissenting gesture after whistled foul:
https://streambug.org/cv/28a432
Second YC, reckless challenge:
https://streambug.org/cv/d1e38e
I don’t particularly like the body language in either scene. It could be handled more confidently and if he took the whistle out of his mouth during the second yellow card instead of keeping it in the whole time, he would be able to speak as well.
DeleteDifficult start of the game for Vincic. First 2 minutes he spent trying to get his shirt right, then an offside that wasn't signalled and a very long review, also on field. I think an okay decision, but I also think no one on the pitch expected it.
ReplyDeleteVERY VERY LONG VAR check in Munich to disallow german goal for offside in APP.
ReplyDeleteCould be wrong but believe it was judged that gnabry had challenged an opponent for a deflected ball whilst retreating from offside position
I'm a supporter of the 'uncontrollable ball' rule, but I honestly think the way it's applied is wrong.
ReplyDeleteBUT it is just consistent: If the defender is not given the time and space to gain control of the ball, the offside situation is not reset.
https://streamff.com/v/571a5918
ReplyDeleteQuestion is indeed about deliberate play or deflection (that's why long time to check it) and then after you have the possible punishable offside. In case of deflection assessment before, should be a clear offside, because attacker was about to play the ball before defender, he was absolutely active.
I see! Totally understand that.
DeleteThe pass by #3 to #5 looks quite controlled to me, but apparently opinions are split on that.
DeleteFor me it's onside and same height... I'm sorry, it's very ridiculous! My opinion !
ReplyDeleteAs is your comment… You really believe that VAR, with their technology, will make a wrong decision concerning the offside position? A discussion about whether or not we have a punishable offside at hand I can understand, a discussion about the position seems ridiculous.
DeleteIsn't that a possible red card for Reijnders?
ReplyDeleteHe hits him with the studs above the ankles.
how on earth is that not a red card, insane foul there and i don't know how VAR didn't ask for OFR
DeleteVery soft penalty at best given by Glova
ReplyDeletehttps://streamin.me/v/cc723910
DeleteContact rather used by attacker, but indeed VAR can't intervene given that there was a movement and a contact.
A correct penalty whistled by De Burgos to Italy.
ReplyDeleteDBB is very sharp today. Good performance so far.
DeleteIn 43. Yc forgiven for Ger#19 after reckless scissor tackle from behind.
ReplyDeleteVery good decision by De Burgos in 45'. Indirect free kick to Italy because Israeli attackers failed to keep away by 1m from Italian wall.
ReplyDeleteGER-NED:
ReplyDelete- Reijnders YC was one that hits many SFP boxes.
- ‘43 was a missed stonewall YC to German player. Endangered the players safety.
Typical Vincic performance in a one-sided game; full control, you barely notice him (and probably nobody talks about him after the game if GER wins), but… Disciplinary he is never really on a top level.
2 wrong ofsides before penalty and then goal for Belgium by AR (Peljto) corrected by polish VAR
ReplyDeletePoint of contact with studs suggests a clear red card.
ReplyDeleteAlso, frontal tackle. Arguments for backing YC? Intensity but a very marginal point for discussion, the contact was very quick. This can't be enough to save player, but well, Vincic had everything under his eyes, maybe you should blame him before VAR.
And once again, with Vincic, to be honest, I see Kajtazovic very rarely intervening if not for offside issues...differently from Obrenovic games. This was a red card for me.
https://streambug.org/cv/996f3f
DeleteAgree. Should have been a RC. But I think we all know why Vincic didn’t issue it (and VAR didn’t intervene). With a RC, the referee draws all the attention to him. With YC and normally an expected Germany win, nobody will talk about the tackle or the referee after the game.
DeleteAnd again, I strongly disagree with YC. However, this is exactly how Vincic avoids to draw too much attention (on himself) for years.
I can't say that you are wrong. Trying to avoid very big calls at all costs and then expecting just good luck with the final score. This has happened very often, other referees were very unlucky.
DeleteHere the situation in 43': https://streambug.org/cv/3c53f1
For me the one in 30' remains as the main one, though.
Sorry, correct link for 43': https://streambug.org/cv/6a1cb5
DeleteShocking first half from Vincic.
ReplyDelete3´ For me very big doubts if it was offside. Not about the deliberate play but the line looks to be simply wrong (not even close from what I have seen)
30´ missed RC for SFP. Studs above the ankle and high speed. No words. Vincic himself didnt even see the foul and gave a YC in the next stop after info from AR1. Kajtazovic should honestly be suspended for missing that, given he had over 1 minute from the action to the resume of play after the next stop.
43´ missed YC GER19 reckless
45+1´ foul given the wrong way and bad management of unsporting behavior from the dutch side.
Added time: 2 minutes with a OFR of 3 and a half minutes, a possible RC situation and Verbruggen time-wasting for the last 30 minutes.
If this would be Italy or Spain, and not Germany Vincic would be in huge trouble. Really interested how the 2nd half goes and if we see consequences.
Nick Greenhalgh is one of Taylor's assistants tonight. No Gary Beswick as listed.
ReplyDeleteVery good Peljto but chaotic decisions by AR 1 (two offsides errors) and AR 2 (awful decision at 56 ‘ mn)…not good enough for Elite…very good act to disallow France 1-2 (hand foul).
ReplyDeleteBusy evening for us - a lot of penalties around Europe...
ReplyDeleteVery disputable decision allowing the Israeli goal. Impeding on ITA GK, without an evident movement but clearing preventing the save. Maybe not Var stuff, but referee and assistant should have spotted it live
ReplyDeleteDe Burgos in Udine is difficult to watch, terrible with his endless discussions and explanations, often surrounded by 5-6 Italians, even when it was easy to avoid it, as with the Israel goal.
ReplyDeleteIf discussions and protests have to be avoided and not tolerated, then it has to be with all the referees, and not arbitrary. In national leagues even it csn be s bit flexible, but internationally nk.
Just watched crucial incidents in Peljto game and I must say very good display by him so far in challenging context, with big troubles by AR1 who made two crucial mistkes.
ReplyDelete23' Penalty whistled by referee live but wrong offside call, Peljto changed in offside, but VAR had to correct assistant referee. Good that the Bosnian didn't need VAR to check again the situation, but one could blame the missed teamwork inside the team (waiting for AR signals, before deciding).
In 35' a correct penalty for handball, player lying down on the ground but committing for sure a deliberate action.
To follow, in 45'+3 another wrong decision by AR1, and VAR intervention to allow the goal (wrong offside).
59' great handball detection by referee before a goal scored, and he also waited the end of action for VAR purposes (you can see that in a replay, making a gesture like he was aware, but then letting game go for a while).
This was outstanding for me, because he had to face also AR mistakes.
If Vincic awards Ned a Fk here (74.) it should be a mandatory Spa Yc
ReplyDeleteI praise Del Cerro for this decision to allow Israel goal.
ReplyDeleteVery long check, but in this case long time justified.
Had it been an offside position by player close to keeper, no discussions, but in this case, no offside, directly from a corner, you can easily say that it was not a clear foul, as the attacker was there, but without doing anything. Surely referee could have whistled it, but I don't think this was a big mistake
Video:
https://streamff.com/v/67f7e220
I must say that I rarely saw a good performance by De Burgos, today it seems the case, at least so ar.
Iceland vs Turkey, two penalties for Turkey given for handball and one not given for Iceland if given it would have been also red card for Turkish defender, goal line clearance. Arms close to the body but there was movement towards the ball, I think it should have been given
ReplyDeleteVery busy game for as well for the Polish.
Delete53' https://streamin.me/v/63f34d85
OFR for handball penalty and then goal annulled for double touch. Don't know whether the referee directly whistled it or not, but it was possible to take this decision without VAR (classic case with the kicker slipping).
67' https://streamin.me/v/5e9ecf49
Another penalty for handball after OFR, not easy to see after a header by attacker, but very evident.
I try to look for the other situation
70-smth minute, there was quite a long review for Iceland penalty appeal.
Delete77' https://streambug.org/cv/131a3e
DeleteStill not 100% clear for me.
An Italian VAR would have had a nightmare here because it's simply impossible to play on and then to be accepted follow a touch by arm on the line as save, but still. I think that VAR didn't find the evidence to say that this was a clear penalty, but no doubts that in case of whistle by referee live, no questions, penalty would have been supported 100%.
I'm not sure it even hit Demiral's arm in that situation, to me it looks like rather the side of the chest. And there was also a touch off his knee before that might also have been a mitigating in case it hit the arm
DeleteWhat difficult situations... Only the one from 67' is affordable on the field... the rest is so difficult to call live. About 77' it is not possible to be sure even on TV
DeletePeljto added a correct second YC in second half as further good decision. It was for SPA, there was another defender ready to intervene otherwise DOGSO.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamff.com/v/2de9f078
UKR - CZE: correctly disallowed goal by AR1 Porras Ayuso in 45'+3.
ReplyDeleteShe will be also busy on Wednesday in Women's CL: two games in 48 hours, a classic standard for Spanish officials, but maybe in this case also UEFA fault. BTW she confirms to be among the best women assistant referees to officiate in men's competitions.
Then to follow at the beginning of second half, 53', great handball penalty call by Cuadra Fernandez, I think he couldn't see in detail this incident, either he added a bit of intuition to the call, or it was again a report by AR1 Porras, in a better position to see it.
Well, at the end a UEFA night that we will remember, I think that so many incidents never happened in recent times :)
Another challenge for her and other top female assistants is switching between games with and without VAR.
DeleteTaylor gave a penalty to Hungary for absolutely nothing?! (defender holds attacker outside the penalty area) and VAR did nothing?
ReplyDeleteBut handplay by Cucurella was no penalty?
It seems that Taylor is not able to make correct penalty decisions at all.
There was a clear trip inside the box, absolutely nothing controversial about that decision. Well done Taylor!
DeleteIn fairness to Taylor, the handball is never ever given in England, and as Elliot says there was a clear trip. He very much got that one right!
DeleteTonight good old Visser in action, in a not spectacular game of course, beit that the country names (SCO-POR) in itself are attractive. By the way, he is not litterally "good old" since he is not 35y yet. We have, besides Lambrechts (who will beat Visser in number of UCL leagues is my guess : it is 2/2 now), two very young and promising internationals of which one (you have to be lucky as well, that's why I cannot "make a choice") could perhaps obtain Elite status within let's say 5 years : Lothar D'hondt and Jasper Vergoote. Finally, Frank De Bleeckere has completely disappeared from Belgian referee scene (he was once observer in a UEL game some weeks ago in Budapest, that's all).
DeleteSylwestrzak with an insane VAR denial of the clearest handball penalty on the goalline ever. Wow.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone have an explanation for the offside line in Germany-Netherlands?
ReplyDeleteMany questions have been raised because the image with the two lines drawn does not show the points of Stefan de Vrij's body.
Is there technology that can draw a line on an image taken from a different angle and then project it onto the image from the 16-meter camera?
Have missed most of the match so can't judge about that.
ReplyDeleteVincic yesterday not with the best ending of the match. After the amount of extra time (4min) was shown there was a mass confrontation after a harsh foul by a german player in min '92. The YC was issued but was borderline to red in terms of harshness.
After 4.08 mins Vincic ended the match. The time of the mass confrontation wasn't added to the 4 minutes. In the last minutes the Netherlands were pushing for a equalizer. So an extra 30 sec was fully justified here. The match was stopped to calm everybody down for 1.15 min.
Vincic with a really horrible performance, not the first time this year. The "offside" ridiculous, his foul protection without any consistency, his communication simply gone, his body language not existent. He whistled without any interest in the game and players, acted like a roboter being out of order. What has happened to this man?
DeleteDetection, not protection, sry
Deletesee my comment on Belgian referees at the moment, for those (rare) interested, above as the third reply on comment of Fritz of yesterday evening 22:57h
ReplyDeleteThey are from the Flemish (Dutch) speaking part of Belgium aren’t they. I noticed that Belgian officials cooperated with a Dutch VAR recently, while in the past they often had French VARs.
DeleteBtw, Frank de Bleeckere is appointed as referee observer in MD3 next week.
Any appointments for the women world cup U17 in dominican Republic?
ReplyDeleteWaiting for Arbitro Internacional!
DeleteClips from Peljto game:
ReplyDelete20' https://streambug.org/cv/371eb8
VAR intervention and penalty confirmed after a wrong offside flag by AR1. We can observe that live it looked more offside than onside, but replay showed that attacker was even a bit behind the second-last defender, so flag to be kept down.
33' https://streambug.org/cv/5094fd
Penalty for handball, referee with a perfect positioning, spots the movement by elbow, defender could have avoided that, deliberate action to block the ball while on ground. VAR confirmed.
45'+3 https://streambug.org/cv/74bf40
Wrong offside flag by AR1, VAR intervention to allow the goal scored by Belgium. Important mistake, attacker clearly coming from behind. This was in my opinion by far easier to see than first situation.
58' https://streambug.org/cv/11bce3
Goal disallowed for handball. Peljto spotting the foul but then waiting for a possible goal, indeed it happened.
75' https://streambug.org/cv/bb91fc
Second YC for SPA. Correct decision, assessed as SPA due to the other defender who was about to intervene, otherwise clear DOGSO, central attack. I think that VAR could have supported straight red card as well, but you can understand the decision by referee to go with yellow.
The first YC to the player (24') was reported to be for persistent infringment (third foul):
https://streambug.org/cv/41a318
To be honest, I rarely saw such a focused and extremely good performance by a referee in a very challenging game.
Tchouameni had indeed already committed offences at 4' and 9' (both on the borderline to reckless) before being cautioned. Peljto generally was quite outstanding. The only mistake by him (noticed by me) was a missed grappling foul on the edge of the box at 85'. Very, very good performance!
DeleteOne can criticise Rosetti in some aspects, but the bringing through and development of the Bosnian referee by him has been a huge success and for that he (and Peljto!) deserves big credit.
A REALLY promising big talent... I hope they treat him fairly.
DeleteI don't know if this has been discussed before, but I noticed that some countries' local VARs were not trusted before, but now they are. That's something to keep an eye on. I suspect that this could increase the chances to be considered for UEFA finals, in particular the Champions League final. The fact is, as of 2020 the VAR in a UCL final always had the same nationality as the CR.
ReplyDeleteExample: Vincic used to work with foreign VARs, also in his UEL final. Until at some point the Slovenian VAR was "trusted" and then they he had a quick run to the UCL final.
Kruzliak now works with a Slovakian VAR. Since when? This is one to keep an eye on, Kruzliak has been under a certain focus by the Refcom for some time now. Not everyone agrees with that (Mikael ;-)). I have to admit, he changed his style by 180 degrees. Given the focus of the Refcom and now the Slovakian VAR addition, I wouldn't be surprised if Kruzliak will get one of the smaller finals this season.
Another name to keep an eye on is Peljto; although he doesn't have a Bosnian VAR, but cooperated a lot with Bebek (Croatia). I think that could be a fruitful collaboration, after all, the Croatians don't have an Elite.
I noticed that Nyberg, Eskås and Meler still work with foreign VARs. That could be a disadvantage. Kovacs as well. Perhaps, the latter will have to cooperate with a Romanian VAR (Popa?) at some point, to be considered for the UCL final.
Your thoughts? 💭
It's an interesting topic and one which Chefren seems well-placed to comment on.
DeleteAs it got a mention, I want to clarify my view about Kruzliak. I am not anti-Kruzliak. I watched every game of the Euro and my opinion was that two referees showed a considerably lower level of officiating in their matches than the others: Guida, and then with a fairly significant gap below him, the Slovakian. In detail, I explaned the reasons for that on posts at the time. While personally I would have deemed his Euro performance(s) as a kind of 'caesura' for Kruzliak (a la Ekberg/21, Moen/16, Batista/04 and so on), UEFA instead seem to have read it the other way and have pushed the Slovak official on.
I can understand why they have acted like this, but in their stead, I would have done it differently. That's it. To be clear, I wish him -- and indeed all referees generally -- well for the future.
Well, I wrote many times about this topic on the blog and it's absolutely fascinating for me because I could never find a logic in what committee did about the trust to be given or not to VAR from certain countries! It would be a very, very long speech.
DeleteLet me say the first thing: basically my opinion is that committee has a big attention regarding the domestic use and development of VAR, and that's of course something we can easily understand, BUT.... I also think if they want to give to a certain referee a final or a big game, they don't damn themselves :) Thery just appoint VARs from other nations, in case. Indeed we have many examples in past about that, the early Champions League finals with VAR, Skomina for sure couldn't rely on a VAR from his country at that time, and if we want to stay at today era, some of the names you mentioned, have clearly a full trust even without a VAR from their country. Nyberg before all the others, and the situation in Sweden is even worse because, don't know if you heard that, Sweden is the only country that has officially abolished the VAR, after having used it for a while. But I can't imagine Nyberg being rejected for that, impossible. Same for Eskas, Norway at moment is tarting with VAR, a very big delay, but they are on the good way. Still, committee doesn't trust Norwegian VAR and they will need time, but no troubles for this reason on Eskas assignments.
So I think they are happy if a country offers a certain development, but they have their trusted VAR and referees, so not a big trouble if some of them gets a foreign assignment as VAR.
At moment there is a certain trust on many countries, but after many changes of opinions (of course I can't know in detail and I can only think that), it seems as Turkey stays as the least trusted country. You can see that even Karaoglan for a game like Belarus - Luxembourg gets VARs from Germany. We haven't seen Turkish VAR anymore in recent times in UEFA games, after a period full of controversy before Cakir retirement.
About the rest of the nations, Romania must be mentioned, they were very late in adding the technology and Hategan surely paid for that, indeed he didn't have VAR in domestic games, and at a certain point somee years ago, he was almost the only Elite referee with this issue (maybe together with Collum). So basically something that for sure goes against the same referees, but if they show good performances, the committee doesn't make a big problem of it.
Kovacs was reported to have some issues with his countrymen, some Romanian readers told us that he doesn't want to work with Hategan, maybe he doesn't want to work with other Romanian VARs, I don't know, but since his start of the excellent path in UEFA, he has been assigned to foreign VAR, and in that case I don't see a problem, for a CL final assignment, he could get the regular VARs.
Because, at the end, the last thing I want to say, we have this pool of "Elite" VARs in UEFA, not reported on paper, but existing in reality. So, we see, they are used also for the mentioned big names, who can't rely on VAR from the same country. Committee would be more content with VARs from same country because also no troubles in language, but again, I don't think they are in trouble for that. Nevertheless, how they make some VAR choices is still beyond my understanding.
Just to correct you on a little point Chefren, Sweden has never used VAR. What was abolished was the plans to introduce it, because the board of the FA realized they have zero chances of making it happen with the democratic system that exist in Swedish football
DeleteThanks for this clarification. So let's correct in: Sweden the first country to reject officially the VAR system.
DeleteStuart Attwell, Armenia - North Macedonia.
ReplyDelete5' https://streambug.org/cv/208dde
Disallowed goal AR1, VAR confirmed after very long check.
The other attacker in very clear offside, the player who received the ball in a very borderline position. Frame used was not shown, but of course we must trust VAR.
8' https://streambug.org/cv/8f4547
First foul of the game, clear reckless challenge, YC, very good decision
21' - 22'
https://streambug.org/cv/cd82df
https://streambug.org/cv/e24006
Two YCs for SPA in a row, one for each team.
60' https://streambug.org/cv/95b509
Possible YC for reckless challenge, I think more to be given than to spare it, but very fair behavior between the players after the incident and one of the replays shows that the intensity was not excessive. Still for me, YC, but maybe not an important mistake by referee.
72' https://streambug.org/cv/c7c504
Possible foul before 0-1, the start of counterattack and how North Macedonia gained the possession of the ball. Attwell looked to be a bit worried in this case, but I think absolutely correct decision. Fair action on the ball before and then contact with opponent that we can easily deem as normal collision. Armenian player looked to be injured, but honestly can't see a foul there. Nevertheless, decision was accepted without remarkable protests.
Excellent approach by the English who was clearly aware about the game he had been assigned to. I also think that the firm decisions he took with the mandatory cards calmed down players for the rest of the game, but surely this wasn't the only factor. Also a good luck, because in such a clash if players decide to make fouls and not to play, it's a totally different story for the referee. Well done to English crew, but one should have expected definitely a more challenging match.
I watched this game as well. A very good display, indeed! Such a pity that PGMOL demoted him back then - he was a very talented UEFA first group referee with a really big future ahead of him. He was the most 'European' referee England had and, without doubts, he would've reached the top...
DeleteDemoted is correct but the nuance is important: Attwell himself asked PGMOL to recategorise him during the season to the 'National List' (at that time, Tier II-IV leagues), telling them that if he remained in the 'Select Group' (PL refs), he would quit refereeing altogether.
DeleteAh, thanks for clarification. Sad story.
DeleteToday's AFC WC qualifiers:
ReplyDeleteJPNAUS: Ahmad Al-Ali (KUW)
KORIRQ: Rustam Lutfullin (UZB)
CHNIDN: Omar Al-Ali (UAE)
KGZPRK: Mohammed Al-Hoish (KSA)
UZBUAE: Ma Ning (CHN)
IRNQAT: Yusuke Araki (JPN)
JOROMA: Khaled Al-Turais (KSA)
PLEKUW: Abdulrahman Al-Jassim (QAT)
KSABHR: Salman Falahi (QAT)
Estonia - Sweden, Juxhin Xhaja ALB
ReplyDeleteDespite of the final score and the "nordic" clash, this was in reality a challenging game for the Albanian referee, in my opinion more than Armenia - North Macedonia for some aspects, and maybe one can't believe that if not watching it. The tone of fouls was always high, let's clarify, not a battle, but surely something more than a normal difficulty match. There were many contacts, of course this happened by far more in first half, when score was still open. Then, Sweden started to score and the game turned into an "easier" one for referee.
Early minutes, some penalty area incidents
https://streambug.org/cv/f351f6
One of them not clear whether inside or outside, but still, all supportable / acceptable decisions to play on.
15' YC SPA
https://streambug.org/cv/4202f3
Mandatory decision, foul to stop opponent's counterattack after a lost ball.
19' YC SPA
https://streambug.org/cv/f19c04
Another similar decision to previous one, YC to Swedish player for impeding a quick attack by opponent in the midfield.
21' Foul called before a possible OGSO by Estonia
https://streambug.org/cv/cbf49c
You can also hear the crowd. This contributed to the challenging atmoshpere I was describing. At the end correct or at least supportable call, you can see a foul on #4 SWE by Estonian player.
39' YC SPA
https://streambug.org/cv/c3ed91
Another situation in which I can agree with the card by referee. Stopped a promising attack by opponent.
41' YC reckless
https://streambug.org/cv/3e7ccf
Well seen by referee, player trying to kick ball but hitting clearly opponent, injured. One point for improvement here, poor card showing procedure, not clear, should have been more accurate.
44' Management
https://streambug.org/cv/165499
Clip also useful to understand the tone of the game. Unluckily broadcaster started with replay and missed the last part of referee's warning.
54' Possible YC for reckless
https://streambug.org/cv/610b71
Could attacker have avoided contact with keeper?
84' YC for reckless arm
https://streambug.org/cv/fcce9a
Correct decision.
I think that the Albanian referee did well, all recent performances by him have been quite good.
Inexplicable penalty awarded for handball by Nicholas Walsh in min 4 in LTU vs ROU. Beaton called him for OFR, but Walsh keeps his original decision. Shocking decision.
ReplyDeleteYou know I'm handballs fan, but in this case... I must agree with you. No explanations here: impossible to understand what Walsh saw in this action to decide it was punishable arm position.
DeleteVideo to follow soon.
Here the video: https://streambug.org/cv/d8be76
DeleteWalsh asked for different replays. Then he confirmed the original field-decision: penalty. Honestly one can't believe that.
At least this one should be a very clear situation with full arm close to body.
To follow, second penalty for handball whistled by the Scottish. In this case quick VAR check and correct or at least supportable decision.
Deletehttps://streambug.org/cv/c1d3f7
Honestly, it is difficult to understand how a referee at this level could misjudge such a simple situation during the OFR.
DeleteIronically that on matchday 1 in Scotland Walsh and his team didn't give a penalty for a situation similar to this... (correctly not a penalty).
Deletehttps://youtu.be/SnZ2a7rmglE?t=441
Trying to understand the reasons:
Delete- The arm moves towards the (path of the) ball, so he might have assessed as deliberate (and then, the arm position is irrelevant)
- Technically, the arm increases the body surface, because without it, the ball would probably have passed
So while penalty is not the expected call, there are some arguments, I think.
I was surprised, but the angle from near technical area shows the arm “follow” the ball. I don’t think it played out how he thought but it’s not totally wrong
DeleteMixed evening so far for Brisard in Belfast. Missed some obvious fouls but allowed a super advantage (could have whistled for a PK) for NI 2nd goal.
ReplyDeleteVery good with delayed whistle in penalty area, that's what Rosetti wants to see... https://streamin.me/v/50437631
DeletePenalty whistled by Karaoglan in Belarus - Luxembourg:
ReplyDeletehttps://streambug.org/cv/d5aa1c
Attacker desperately running in the "foul area" to get the contact by defender, but indeed all people agree this must be whistled. Correct decision by the Turkish.
Penalty whistled for BUL in NI v BUL (40”). Defender had a handful of jersey but didn’t impede or hold back the attacker. Cleared by VAR but certainly a soft award that wasn’t expected.
ReplyDeleteWatched and rewatched, can't see where this foul was. French referee very firm, immediately pointed to the stop when nobody expected that. I hope VAR had better footage to confirm the call, the check was rather quick, but at the end NIR player more injured than fouled opponent... definitely not clear.
DeleteAnyone with a video of penalty awarded to the Swiss? Live I've had doubts, contact seemed minimal
ReplyDeletehttps://streamin.me/v/513fc22e
DeleteMaybe more an impeding than a full contact, but still I think a call to be confirmed by VAR.
Penalty for handball awarded by Stefanski in 52'. Excellent on field decision.
ReplyDeleteTwo yellow cards for dissent to Mitrovic (cap) and Milenkovic.
Brisard missed a YC for BUL #7(51”). Clear pull back with the jersey (LOR or SPA). Advantage played but failed to follow up with the caution. Mandatory.
ReplyDeleteOFR for Karaoglan to remove a handball penalty.
ReplyDeleteVery long time to understand that no handball occurred, just a touch by head by Luxembourg player.
https://streambug.org/cv/975555
67”— 4th goal correctly cancelled out for NIR for offside by VAR. AR1 really should have picked it up live.
ReplyDeleteOFR for Stefanski in 75' to upgrade SPA to DOGSO.
ReplyDeleteIMO mistake by the Polish: it was actually a clear DOGSO.
Agreed. Clear DOGSO. Without foul, attacker with ball right in front of keeper 100%, accurate pass. Easy to read.
Deletehttps://dubz.co/c/c96915
Not agreed that lightly and in my opinion not that "clear DOGSO". From the ref's angle, he might have thought that Milenkovic might have reached Oyarzabal had he not been fouled by Pavlovic. For the broader picture: Mr. Stefanski performed quite well and dealt sensibly with the agent provocateur Mitrovic who was thinking he would be shielded by his captain armband (see minutes 36 and 53).
DeleteRC for SFP by Hernandez Hernandez in Poland - Croatia: https://streamff.com/v/6c5ccdc0
ReplyDeleteEven after having played ball before, excessive force used. One can agree with this decision, but more important to say, assessing a YC only because ball played before can be a mistake...
Very good decision
DeleteNot sure I agree with this being a RC. Not because the ball is played but because I dont think you can really blame the Croatian. His action is not endangering, one could even say the intention causing the collision comes from Lewandowski. But I understand rather nothing for VAR, the point of contact looks too bad.
DeleteThe issue with the decision imo is that the interpretation doesnt take into account that the gk was first on the ball, it wasnt 50-50 and a dangerous play. The force is not uncontrolled velocity but simply because of the intention to kick the ball far away. So I dont think its fair to punish the gk with a RC.
DeleteBut I understand no VAR intervention because there are elements that can support a RC.
Totally agree with your comment.
DeleteFootball understanding is something more, but not in this situation - case.
Visser is so bad imo. 32 faults - whistling everything... whats yall opinion?
ReplyDeleteVisser wasn't thaaat bad, but not really a convincing performance either: not much authority over the game/players (Ronaldo very blatantly abused the captains rule to undermine the ref's authority and, contrary to Scharer vs. Georgia, Visser didn't defend himself at all), many dubious foul rulings and generally a bit shaky impression.
DeleteIf one could say this was partly a set of League A appointments for 'forgotten names' this month, I don't think the Belgian ref did much tonight to disabuse the decision made to 'drop' him for Lambrechts.
In his defence, I felt there were quite a lot of petty fouls for pushes pulls etc but should have been stronger with Ronaldo and probably with Martinez for his constant moaning and hand gestures. No serious errors though
DeleteI've been reading the analysis of observers and they're all saying the same thing and I agree, Visser was very insecure, always relying on the ARs to make decisions but I agree with yall, there were no gross errors but it seemed like he was whistling everything. And that's what bothers me when I see supposedly category A games and I see that they're refereed by “random” Mens First referees who got appointed to these type of games and they simply dont take decisions and whistle everything just to protect themselfs, this needs to stop, let them ref the C games then B games first to gain security...
DeleteThis is for Vissers, Guidas, Scharers etc of life
DeleteI didn't watch Meler's game, how was he?
ReplyDeleteI'm planning to watch him today.
DeleteHalil Umut Meler in SUI - DEN.
ReplyDelete2' Possible YC for SPA
https://streambug.org/cv/1a2e0f
To me, an expected card, rather a quick attack. Referee issued a warning.
5' Another chance of issuing YC for SPA
https://streambug.org/cv/5d43e6
For sure less YC than previous incident, one can agree with referee in this case. Not an immediate dangerous attack, but still, with a different approach, this could have been YC.
27' Quick free kick execution before 1-1 goal
https://streambug.org/cv/5c49de
Regular execution, player stopped ball before kicking it.
28' PAI, no replay
https://streambug.org/cv/9314df
I think rather correct decision to play on but impossible to say more.
30' YC SPA
https://streambug.org/cv/4d5812
This was considered as promising attack, I can agree with YC.
37' YC for reckless challenge
https://streambug.org/cv/9df35f
It is an interesting one, given how Swiss player commits the reckless foul, I agree he could have avoided that contact. Similar to a step on foot. I think this is not easy to spot by referees, so a very good decision.
44' Penalty to Switzerland
https://streambug.org/cv/627d12
As already discussed, I think that this penalty can't be denied, even if not a full contact but rather an impeding action by defender, sliding right in front of attacker.
46' Possible YC for reckless challenge
https://streambug.org/cv/761a60
I think one can agree with NO CARD because there wasn't a contact of the foot with opponent.
53' Disallowed goal AR1, correct decision
https://streambug.org/cv/0ba6ce
55' YC SPA
https://streambug.org/cv/0deaa5
Quick attack about to start, OK decision.
74' Disallowed goal AR2, ball out
https://streambug.org/cv/5fd445
https://streambug.org/cv/6c07f2
VAR confirmed the decision, the check was not really long. I think we can't be sure but the second video can suggest us rather about a correct decision.
It wasn't a very challenging game for the Turkish, I think that we can say it was overall an expected level performance. Correct calls in crucial incidents (one must only support for the situation in 74'), some words can be said about the disciplinary control, especially regarding SPA.
As general remark, I think that the concept of SPA in modern refereeing has clearly changed. After many observations, I noticed that referees tend to punish these fouls when they are really blatant and noticed by people in the context of the game, very often this happens regardless of the zone in which they are committed (close or far to penalty areas). Also, how much quick is (or, can be) an attack, seems to be a very strong factor.
Indeed, if you take the possible YC not given by the Turkish in this game in the second minute (player about to enter penalty area), yu should then assess all the rest of cards for SPA in the midfieled and so on, as rather wrong or not consistent, but, as said, some criteria are really different. It is also a question of perception of the foul, and maybe reporting that a referee had missed a card just because the attack was very close to the net, can be a wrong argument.
Having said that, for me no issues by Turkish referee in this game and he kept everything under control. Also, a good performance by AR2, I remember from my previous observation there had been issues (he was new to the team). In this case, definitely better, with also cooperation with referee.
+1 about the SPA analysis. I like that referees punish these more cynical fouls to stop quick attacks even when they are super far from goal. I do wish they would also caution SPA fouls where the attacks arent as quick but happen when the fouled player is about to enter a dangerous area. I think referees in those situation are scared to give a caution, especially if the foul itself was on the softer side, for management reasons. But that should not be a consideration for SPA YC.
DeleteFor me both 2' and 5' should be seen as pretty clear YC's, especially 2'
DeleteHello, here the anulated goal from Switzerland. The assistant was for sure surprised...not ready.
Deletehttps://www.blick.ch/sport/fussball/nati/amdounis-tor-war-korrekt-daten-und-video-beweisen-naechster-tor-klau-bei-der-nati-id20232272.html
Yes it seems a wrong decision from this angle. But as long as UEFA will not care about this issue of ball out, one can do nothing.
DeleteChallenging game for Jug in Kosovo, management in the early minutes:
ReplyDeletehttps://streambug.org/cv/c6b15e
Hi all,
ReplyDeletesince another (new) blogger is now using the nickname "f", to avoid misunderstanding I've changed mine into my real name.: Mario
After having read your comments, I watched Visser because I was curious about his performance. While one can say that indeed it wasn't a bad performance regarding some aspects, and the game was never challenging, there are for sure some issues in being accepted by Portuguese players for his style of refereeing, and, more generally, the management of Cristiano Ronaldo.
ReplyDeleteAt first, le'ts post the clips about yellow cards:
18' Reckess
https://streambug.org/cv/ba95d7
27' Reckless (very mandatory)
https://streambug.org/cv/a0d596
50' SPA
https://streambug.org/cv/71addb
There were other situations in which he could have maybe booked and I think the first one (18') is not a very mandatory card, but still no issues and I think good under this aspect.
The troubles came with players and especially Cristiano Ronaldo management.
Here all the chapters:
19' Early protests from the Portuguese, accusing the referee of soft or maybe unnecessary whistles.
https://streambug.org/cv/c9c488
31' Second moment in which Cristiano Ronaldo goes against referee, he didn't accept a foul against him for dangerous play while trying an acrobatic goal.
https://streambug.org/cv/5cbf95
83' Other protests coming from the Portuguese, in this case to be honest to me it's not clear whether this was for the handball whistle, if the Belgian did that, UEFA site doesn't report it. Nevertheless, another player was booked from POR and not him.
https://streambug.org/cv/86553d
90'+5 Final whistle and show by Cristiano Ronaldo against the referee, he could do that because far away and the Belgian crew either not aware or ignoring.
https://streambug.org/cv/7887d3
Of course the first thing to say is that the Portuguese is not new to such shows, but going beyond the criticized decisions I think that really having such reactions is very excessive, and therefore the first person to condemen is the player, for sure. Among other things now, with the advanced age, he seems to me to be someone who wants to become more and more a protagonist on the pitch. Staying on the topic of Portugal, a behavior similar to his compatriot Mourinho.
DeleteHaving said that, unfortunately Visser has shown himself weak in managing these complaints from the well-known Portuguese champion. He should have shown to be tougher and not friendly. The Belgian in my opinion is a referee who is too friendly on the pitch and does not show a hard hand when necessary, unfortunately in my opinion he does not even have the face of a bad guy :) (sometimes you need that as referee) but these are personal considerations.
I'm going to analyze in detail:
Deletein the first case at 19' the Belgian does everything to close the altercation by ingratiating himself with the Portuguese and doesn't think for a moment that he will be able to caution him, in my opinion the protests are considerable even within the limits but it is the referee's approach too soft, not adequate. Let's say that in the end Visser managed to close the temporary situation with an OK, trying to make that gesture of relax towards the Portuguese, but in the end he didn't manage to resolve anything in terms of how the match will continue.
Afterwards, I perfectly support the whistle for the dangerous play at 31', a situation that however almost all referees would have let go today, because by now we are in a world of refereeing where the rules are put aside to favor the spectacle. You will remember the controversial Zwayer goal disallowed for Roma in that EL match, well, these are very rare decisions, but for me here the Belgian was very good, nevertheless obviously Ronaldo got even more angry and at that point the referee could have thought more about at least cautioning him.
In the situation in the 83rd minute, while Ronaldo goes back to protesting in Visser's face, the referee is worried about cautioning someone else, this makes us understand that the Belgian took the concept of not cautioning the captain of a team in a very rigorous way, therefore he authorized everything to the Portuguese because he had the armband, while the other player, clearly having done less, got the yellow card only because not entitled to speak to the referee. So I say that this situation of the captain-referee protocol can sometimes, if applied to the letter, lead to misunderstandings.
It ends with the last situation, where Ronaldo openly exploded at the final whistle against the referee, here once again Visser could have easily done things better he whistled at 4:15 before the corner, he could have finished the game at 4:00 exactly in midfield, since these 15 seconds at the end were not that much (if they had been at least 30, one could have discussed...). So there would have been no controversy, but, once again, obviously there would be no problem in whistling at that point, but then those who protest should be punished. Now, during the show with the Portuguese fans I don't know where Visser with his teammates were. Certainly if he saw and continued to ignore it, he made situation much worse, if he didn't see anyway, what he caused was certainly his fault in part, having allowed the Portuguese too much. But from a technical point of view, as said, he wasn't bad. His problem, unfortunately, in my opinion, is being too lenient, we have seen it many times, and Rosetti certainly can't like Ronaldo's management of this kind, just becaus in line with the captains' protocol. The Belgian interpreted everything the wrong way. It's sad, but it is certainly understandable why UEFA set him aside at one point, he is not strong in some decisive aspects. However, I still don't know Lambrechts well enough to say that it is much better, eh, we'll see.
1st phase: Broadcast timer 18:50: You notice that Visser wants to keep Ronaldo friendly and the ref addresses Ronaldo, touching his loins in the process.
ReplyDeleteA player like Ronaldo senses this immediately and Visser starts losing some authority very early in the match as a result.
Further direct confrontations between and Visser and Ronaldo prove this.
I always learned 'Never touch a player'!