Wednesday, 18 October 2017

Champions League 2017/18 - Referee Appointments - Matchday 3 (II)

The following officials will complete the appointments for MD3 of 2017/18 Champions League group stage.

A| 18.10.2017, 20:45 CET
Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica, Lisbon (POR)
SL Benfica - Manchester United FC
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
Fourth Official: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hans Reijgwart (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Jozef Kliment (SVK)

A| 18.10.2017, 20:45 CET
CSKA Moskva Arena, Moscow (RUS)
CSKA Moskva - FC Basel
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin Zeinstra (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Dennis Higler (NED)
Fourth Official: Mario Diks (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Paulius Malžinskas (LTU)
UIEFA Delegate: Andrian Ixari (MDA)

B| 18.10.2017, 20:45 CET
Allianz Arena, Munich (GER)
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Anton Averianov (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Tikhon Kalugin (RUS)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Sergei Lapochkin (RUS)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
Fourth Official: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jaap Uilenberg (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Kofoed (DEN)

B| 18.10.2017, 20:45 CET
Constant Vanden Stock Stadium, Brussels (BEL)
RSC Anderlecht - Paris SG
Referee: Pavel Královec (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Roman Slyško (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Ivo Nádvorník (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Petr Ardeleánu (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Karel Hrubeš (CZE)
Fourth Official: Martin Wilczek (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Mike Appleby (ENG)

C| 18.10.2017, 18:00 CET
Bakı Olimpiya Stadionu, Baku (AZE)
Qarabağ FK - Club Atlético de Madrid
Referee: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Guillaume Debart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Cano (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Amaury Delerue (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: François Letexier (FRA)
Fourth Official: Bertrand Jouannaud (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: José Guilherme Aguiar (POR)

C| 18.10.2017, 20:45 CET
Stamford Bridge, London (ENG)
Chelsea FC - AS Roma
Referee: Damir Skomina (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert Vukan (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Matej Jug (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Grega Kordež (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Patrick Kelly (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Tobias Wolf (GER)

D| 18.10.2017, 20:45 CET
Camp Nou, Barcelona (ESP)
FC Barcelona - Olympiacos FC
Referee: William Collum (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Francis Connor (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Douglas Gordon Ross (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: John Beaton (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
Fourth Official: Douglas Potter (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jørn West Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Nebojša Ivković (SRB)

D| 18.10.2017, 20:45 CET
Juventus Stadium, Turin (ITA)
Juventus FC - Sporting CP
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Andre Marriner (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Paul Tierney (ENG)
Fourth Official: Harry Lennard (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Wolfgang Thierrichter (AUT)
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  1. RayHD17 October 2017 at 12:36

    UEFA YOUTH LEAGUE

    UEFA Champions League Path - Matchday 3

    18 October 2017

    Group A | 13:00 CET, Oktyabr Stadium, Moscow
    PFC CSKA Moskva - FC Basel 1893
    Referee: Filip Glova (Slovakia)
    Assistant Referee 1: František Ferenc (Slovakia)
    Assistant Referee 2: Milan Štrbo (Slovakia)
    Fourth Official: Aleksey Sukhoy (Russia)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Aleksandr Gvardis (Russia)
    UEFA Delegate: Avi Levi (Israel)

    Group A | 14:00 CET, Caixa Futebol Campus, Seixal
    SL Benfica - Manchester United FC
    Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (Spain)
    Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero Sevilla (Spain)
    Assistant Referee 2: César Manuel Noval Font (Spain)
    Fourth Official: Rui Jorge Piteira Rodrigues (Portugal)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Lucílio Cardoso Cortez Batista (Portugal)
    UEFA Delegate: Claude Runavot (France)

    Group B | 16:00 CET, FC Bayern Campus, Munich
    FC Bayern München - Celtic FC
    Referee: Ivaylo Stoyanov (Bulgaria)
    Assistant Referee 1: Divan Valkov (Bulgaria)
    Assistant Referee 2: Milen Arabadzhiev (Bulgaria)
    Fourth Official: Florian Badstübner (Germany)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Sippel (Germany)
    UEFA Delegate: Denis Bastari (Albania)

    Group B | 16:00 CET, Van Roystadion, Denderleeuw
    RSC Anderlecht - Paris Saint-Germain FC
    Referee: Fedayi San (Switzerland)
    Assistant Referee 1: Vital Jobin (Switzerland)
    Assistant Referee 2: Carmine Sangiovanni (Switzerland)
    Fourth Official: Lothar D'Hondt (Belgium)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Frank De Bleeckere (Belgium)
    UEFA Delegate: Iveta Bankova (Bulgaria)

    Group C | 12:00 CET, Azərsun Arena, Baku
    Qarabağ FK - Club Atlético de Madrid
    Referee: Vitaliy Meshkov (Russia)
    Assistant Referee 1: Aleksey Lunev (Russia)
    Assistant Referee 2: Nikolay Bogach (Russia)
    Fourth Official: Rauf Cabbarov (Azerbaijan)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Asim Xudiyev (Azerbaijan)
    UEFA Delegate: Tamar Chichinadze (Georgia)

    Group C | 14:00 CET, Chelsea FC Training Ground, Surrey
    Chelsea FC - AS Roma
    Referee: Frank Schneider (France)
    Assistant Referee 1: Djemel Zitouni (France)
    Assistant Referee 2: Nicolas Henninot (France)
    Fourth Official: John Busby (England)
    UEFA Referee Observer: John Ward (Republic of Ireland)
    UEFA Delegate: Jan Willem van Dop (Netherlands)

    Group D | 16:00 CET, Mini Estadi, Barcelona
    FC Barcelona - Olympiakós FC
    Referee: Robert Harvey (Republic of Ireland)
    Assistant Referee 1: Darragh Keegan (Republic of Ireland)
    Assistant Referee 2: Shane O'Brien (Republic of Ireland)
    Fourth Official: David Medié Jiménez (Spain)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez (Spain)
    UEFA Delegate: Trefor Lloyd Hughes (Wales)

    Group D | 16:00 CET, Juventus Center, Turin
    Juventus FC - Sporting CP
    Referee: Fran Jović (Croatia)
    Assistant Referee 1: Ivica Modrić (Croatia)
    Assistant Referee 2: Hrvoje Radić (Croatia)
    Fourth Official: Daniele Minelli (Italy)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Robert Sedlacek (Austria)
    UEFA Delegate: Paul Krähenbühl (Switzerland)

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    1. RayHD17 October 2017 at 12:37

      Domestic Champions Path - First Round (Second Legs)

      18 October 2017

      13:00 CET, Dynamo Stadium named after Valeriy Lobanovskyy, Kyiv
      FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) - FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
      Referee: George Cătălin Găman (Romania)
      Assistant Referee 1: Mircea Mihail Grigoriu (Romania)
      Assistant Referee 2: Mihai Marius Marica (Romania)
      Fourth Official: Mykola Kryvonosov (Ukraine)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Volodymyr Petrov (Ukraine)
      UEFA Delegate: David McDowell Zor (Slovenia)

      14:00 CET, Blue Water Arena, Esbjerg
      Esbjerg fB (DEN) - Käpylän Pallo (FIN)
      Referee: Aleksandrs Golubevs (Latvia)
      Assistant Referee 1: Raimonds Tatriks (Latvia)
      Assistant Referee 2: Jevgēņijs Morozovs (Latvia)
      Fourth Official: Jørgen Daugbjerg Burchardt (Denmark)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Jens Larsen (Denmark)
      UEFA Delegate: Kieran O'Connor (Wales)

      15:00 CET, Stadion Lučko, Lučko
      NK Lokomotiva Zagreb (CRO) - FC Dinamo 1948 (ROU)
      Referee: Ádám Farkas (Hungary)
      Assistant Referee 1: Gergő Vígh-Tarsonyi (Hungary)
      Assistant Referee 2: Balázs Szalai (Hungary)
      Fourth Official: Igor Pajač (Croatia)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Draženko Kovačić (Croatia)
      UEFA Delegate: Boris Stankov (Bulgaria)

      16:00 CET, FC Krasnodar Academy Stadium, Krasnodar
      FC Krasnodar (RUS) - FC Kairat Almaty (KAZ)
      Referee: Jari Järvinen (Finland)
      Assistant Referee 1: Sami Nykänen (Finland)
      Assistant Referee 2: Veli-Matti Leppänen (Finland)
      Fourth Official: Artem Chistyakov (Russia)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Yuriy Baskakov (Russia)
      UEFA Delegate: Vasko Dojčinovski (FYR Macedonia)

      17:00 CET, Generali Arena, Prague
      AC Sparta Praha (CZE) - F91 Dudelange (LUX)
      Referee: Roomer Tarajev (Estonia)
      Assistant Referee 1: Sten Klaasen (Estonia)
      Assistant Referee 2: Egerd Pajustik (Estonia)
      Fourth Official: Ondřej Berka (Czech Republic)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Václav Krondl (Czech Republic)
      UEFA Delegate: Jean-François Crucke (Belgium)

      17:00 CET, Bozsik József Stadion, Budapest
      Budapest Honvéd FC (HUN) - FK Sutjeska (MNE)
      Referee: Michal Očenáš (Slovakia)
      Assistant Referee 1: Michal Tomčík (Slovakia)
      Assistant Referee 2: Andrej Hrmo (Slovakia)
      Fourth Official: Ádám Németh (Hungary)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Vencel Tóth (Hungary)
      UEFA Delegate: Maksimas Bechterevas (Lithuania)

      17:00 CET, Sammy Ofer Stadium, Haifa
      Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR) - FK Brodarac (SRB)
      Referee: Enea Jorgji (Albania)
      Assistant Referee 1: Orgest Grabova (Albania)
      Assistant Referee 2: Nertil Bregasi (Albania)
      Fourth Official: Yigal Frid (Israel)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Shmuel Shteif (Israel)
      UEFA Delegate: Patrick Wattebled (France)

      18:00 CET, Davit Petriashvili Stadium, Tbilisi
      FC Saburtalo (GEO) - Bursaspor SK (TUR)
      Referee: Dumitru Muntean (Moldova)
      Assistant Referee 1: Sergiu Beșliu (Moldova)
      Assistant Referee 2: Veaceslav Sivaciov (Moldova)
      Fourth Official: Irakli Kvirikashvili (Georgia)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Kostadin Gerginov (Bulgaria)
      UEFA Delegate: Ciprian Paraschiv (Romania)

      18:00 CET, Stadion Grbavica, Sarajevo
      FK Željezničar (BIH) - PFC Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL)
      Referee: Anastássios Papapétrou (Greece)
      Assistant Referee 1: Ioánnis Sípkas (Greece)
      Assistant Referee 2: Vassílios Kamboúris (Greece)
      Fourth Official: Haris Kaljanac (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Rusmir Mrković (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
      UEFA Delegate: David Delférière (Belgium)

      18:00 CET, Stadiumi Loro Boriçi, Shkodër
      KS Vllaznia (ALB) - FC Zimbru Chișinău (MDA)
      Referee: Dimítris Massiás (Cyprus)
      Assistant Referee 1: Mários Kalogírou (Cyprus)
      Assistant Referee 2: Pávlos Georgíou (Cyprus)
      Fourth Official: Eldorjan Hamiti (Albania)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Albano Janku (Albania)
      UEFA Delegate: Björn Fecker (Germany)

      18:30 CET, Aker stadion, Molde
      Molde FK (NOR) - University College Dublin AFC (IRL)
      Referee: Anders Poulsen (Denmark)
      Assistant Referee 1: Elvis Boric (Denmark)
      Assistant Referee 2: Victor Skytte (Denmark)
      Fourth Official: Mads Følstad Skarsem (Norway)
      UEFA Referee Observer: Jon Eilif Skjervold (Norway)
      UEFA Delegate: Kadri Jägel (Estonia)

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  2. RayHD18 October 2017 at 19:35

    Very harsh first YC to Ndlovu (no reckless foul, no SPA) and very harsh second YC to Ndlovu for simulation. But wasn't it simply a foul in penalty area? Doubtful decisions.

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    1. Soham18 October 2017 at 19:37

      Buquet?

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    2. RayHD18 October 2017 at 19:43

      Yeah. 84' - Atlético appeal for a penalty, no whistle, there was a push in the back though.

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    3. Referee analyst18 October 2017 at 19:47

      Agree. But is it enough for a crucial penalty? Grey Areva for me. Possible whistle but plat on ok too.

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    4. Referee analyst18 October 2017 at 19:51

      Area and play *

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    5. Alex F18 October 2017 at 19:54

      Here's a video clip of it:

      https://streamable.com/9bmaq

      My initial instinct was:

      Contact made to trip, player embellished fall.

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  3. Referee analyst18 October 2017 at 19:45

    Sorry, Ray but strongly disagree. Perfect example of clear exaggeration of the contact. Even the player didn’t say nothing and went outside without Words. Do you think a player didn’t react after this kind of cards ? ;)

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    1. Referee analyst18 October 2017 at 19:49

      Furthermore, please lool at the player way of falling...clear unnatural.

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    2. RayHD18 October 2017 at 19:57

      Ndlovu never dissents at referees.

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    3. RayHD18 October 2017 at 20:01

      Fall is natural because Ndlovu's right leg hit his left leg due to contact caused by Godín.

      https://pasteboard.co/GPx78j6.png

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    4. Chefren18 October 2017 at 20:22

      I share more Benoit Auguste's view this time.
      After having watched the video, I think there was a clear attempt by Qarabar player to make it bigger than it really was. And in my opinion that was not enough for a penalty, so I would say a supportable decision by Buquet, who decided to punish more the attitude of the player than what really happened. In normal conditions, player from home-team could have got a penalty.

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    5. Mikael W18 October 2017 at 20:40

      I tend more to agree with Ray, having turned even surely a small contact is enough to knock you off balance, his fall is thanks to his legs hitting each other, caused actually directly by the contact. I could accept play on even, but that is no simulation I am pretty sure. Hard situation to evaluate in real time, I must say.

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  4. Stake18 October 2017 at 20:54

    Bayern-Celtic:
    1. Did the ball really cross the line before the goal?
    2. Should this not have been a penalty for Bayern there?

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    1. Stake18 October 2017 at 20:55

      Everything happened at around minute 7, by the way.

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    2. Alex F18 October 2017 at 21:03

      Can't speak to the penalty portion, but here's a short clip of the ball and the line (looks to be on the line, not fully outside).

      https://streamable.com/yy374

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  5. david0218 October 2017 at 20:55

    Not the best start from Karasev.
    Wrongly dissallowed goal in 6' (Ball didn't cross the goal-outline, AAR2 responsible).
    7': Missed PK + DOGSO RC IMO.... Ref, AR2 and AAR2 had the opportunity to spot it.

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  6. Chefren18 October 2017 at 20:56

    I'm sorry a few minutes in Bayern - Celtic and already two crucial mistake for Russian team: at first a goal was annulled because AR2 / AAR2 thought that the ball was out of the pitch, replay showed that it was still on the line, then after that a missed penalty. It looked clear. Again close to AAR2. This in front of a committee member...

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    1. Soham18 October 2017 at 21:04

      Chances for Russia diminishing for the Russian?

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    2. david0218 October 2017 at 21:17

      I don't think that he'll go to Russia or miss out because of this game for several reasons:
      1. Champions league belongs to UEFA, and FIFA tournaments have nothing to do with it.
      2. Bayern will win for sure IMO, so nobody cares.
      3. Generally I think that he is a reliable referee for such matches as today, I don't think that he fits to tough and heated matches. But only my view, I didn't see him so often (3-4 times) until now.

      I would appoint him as FO in the WC, he deserves that. But no more IMO.

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    3. usaref19 October 2017 at 15:56

      Here's a better reason it won't hurt him: there has NEVER been a World Cup without a referee from the host nation.

      Karasev will be there. It's a certainty.

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    4. david0219 October 2017 at 21:17

      I'm aware of that. I'm also quite sure that he'll be there, but I think also that his performances doesn't justify it. As I wrote, I would give him a spot as FO, but not as main referee.
      But FIFA is about politics, thats very sad...

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  7. Soham18 October 2017 at 21:05

    Is anybody watching Björn Kuipers in Moscow? No telecast of the game here so would be great if someone gives updates... I'm watching Michael Oliver in Turin as of now!

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    1. Dmitry18 October 2017 at 21:08

      Nothing happens here. Boring...

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    2. Soham18 October 2017 at 21:11

      Important match for both teams... Things might start happening anytime... Please keep us updated! :)

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    3. Dmitry18 October 2017 at 21:22

      A couple of fouls around 35' that could be yellow-carded. Kuipers decided not to issue YCs. Seems ok in a calm match like this.

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    4. Dmitry18 October 2017 at 21:56

      Important situation on 50'. Kuipers denied Basel second goal after 30-40 seconds pause due to the foul just before the goal. Basel players were celebrating, CSKA appealed to AR1. Finally, Kuipers denied the goal. I am not sure even after watching a couple of replays

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    5. Chefren18 October 2017 at 22:02

      Reading your post, it seems as Kuipers changed idea only because there were protests by CSKA side?
      Surely a situation to be watched.

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    6. Dmitry18 October 2017 at 22:09

      Here is the link of the goal. No complete video for now

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D94axMqvQ5I

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    7. Soham18 October 2017 at 22:09

      Was there any communication of Kuipers with AR or AAR??

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    8. Dmitry18 October 2017 at 22:10

      It seems to be an offside and correct decision.

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    9. Chefren18 October 2017 at 22:23

      The doubt was surely who touched the ball, but I'm not sure that player who received it was in offside. Waiting for more replays.

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    10. Soham18 October 2017 at 22:30

      I would assume Kuipers had a communication with AR and AAR here regarding the touch and finally they might have decided it as offside!!

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  8. Soham18 October 2017 at 21:10

    Correctly disallowed Barcelona goal for offside by Collum and AR1 at around 22'... Saw this situation while channel surfing

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  9. RayHD18 October 2017 at 21:13

    Good start from Francis Connor. Good onside at 1-0 and good flag in 22'. Collum missed a YC to Odjidja-Ofoe in 10' (stamp) and some seconds later had to book Piqué for clear holding/SPA.

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  10. Soham18 October 2017 at 21:21

    I want to view elbow situation around 27'/28' in Juventus- Sporting CP... Oliver just gave a free kick outside the box for a foul... I want to see some replays to comment further!

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  11. Alex F18 October 2017 at 21:39

    Good YC to Pique (42nd minute) for handling in an attempt to score... Good spot by either the AAR or AR, as the referee doesn't have a good angle to see this one...

    https://imgtc.b-cdn.net/uploads/DPDZ4fDcs5A.mp4

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    1. referee18 October 2017 at 22:03

      Saw an replay from behind the goal, wasn’t clear that the ball actually touched the hand even though every other replay looked like it touched the hand

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  12. referee observer18 October 2017 at 21:42

    Collum should have at least 2 more yellows against Olympiakos. He is way too Lenient.

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  13. Izo18 October 2017 at 21:59

    Skomina has today a 50th match in Champions league.

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    1. Soham18 October 2017 at 22:08

      No... It's only his 40th match in UCL... For avoidance of doubt let me mention, only appointments from group stage onwards are counted as clearly mentioned by UEFA!!

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  14. Izo18 October 2017 at 22:17

    Thank you for correction, I add also 10 matches before group stages :)

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  15. Euro Soccer Ref18 October 2017 at 22:18

    However, in press kit you can read it's his 50th CL-game.

    Page 13
    http://www.uefa.com/printoutfiles/competitions/uefachampionsleague/2018/e/e_2021632_pk.pdf

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    1. Soham18 October 2017 at 22:28

      But in press kits points they mention that matches before group stages are not counted... As per that it's 40... For Kuipers also they write it as 45 but actually it's 37...

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  16. Izo18 October 2017 at 22:19

    Excellent onside for Hazard 2nd goal...great match with intensive tempo and of course 6 goals till 75min

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  17. Soham18 October 2017 at 22:34

    Thought Oliver should've booked Mandzukic for running into the crowd by crossing the perimeter fence for celebrating the Juventus 2–1 goal...

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    1. M19 October 2017 at 01:13

      Agree,weird that he hasnt done that because in Premier League he always books players whnever they run into crowd.

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  18. Unknown18 October 2017 at 22:44

    Good game by Skomina. Normal game for him. He showed 1 yellow card for holding which was correct, also good onsides before 3rd goals from both teams. Good football on Standford Bridge which was a pleasure to watch.

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  19. Philipp S18 October 2017 at 23:31

    U17 WC QF predictions
    MLI-GHA: Taylor (Tessema)
    USA-ENG: Caceres (Nampiandraza)
    ESP-IRN: Vargas (Charef)
    GER-BRA: Sato (Montero)

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    1. Soham19 October 2017 at 05:59

      My predictions :

      MLI-GHA : Clement Turpin
      USA-ENG : Ryuji Sato
      ESP-IRN : Gery Vargas
      GER-BRA : Mehdi Abid Charef

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  20. DutchRef18 October 2017 at 23:56

    Qarabag - Atletico Madrid (Ruddy Buquet)

    56' Foul - no foul / inside - outside
    https://streamable.com/dtg4e

    59'- 75' Both YC's Ndlovu (QAR)
    https://streamable.com/g0b3d
    https://streamable.com/gg08c

    84' Penalty appeal ATL
    https://streamable.com/clw65

    90+2'YC Hüseynov (QAR) after foul, initial advantage, offside and finally FK ATL
    https://streamable.com/isbor

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    1. Stake19 October 2017 at 15:34

      56': no contact, looks more like a foul by the attacker.
      59': foul, but very harsh YC. Looks more like a careless foul.
      75': Difficult to say. Play-on might have been the wiser decision here.
      84': No penalty for me.
      90+2': Strange situation. Letting the advantage go has been well done here. Initially he decided offside, but then seems to have had communication with AR2 and comes then back to the initial SPA decision...

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  21. DutchRef19 October 2017 at 12:51

    Juventus - Sporting CP (Michael Oliver)

    25' YC Coates (SPO); tackle
    https://streamable.com/j8lz2

    27' Use of elbow
    https://streamable.com/5d32a

    58' Penalty appeal SPO
    https://streamable.com/jgso4

    83' Delayed YC Chiellini (JUV); tackle
    https://streamable.com/zm65s

    84' Mandzukic (JUV) celebrating goal
    https://streamable.com/75byk

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    1. Stake19 October 2017 at 15:40

      25': reckless tackle, good decision.
      27': reckless use of elbow in my view, missing YC here.
      58': in my view, this should have been a penalty. Reminds me a bit of Clattenburg's PK in Czech Republic-Croatia at EURO 2016.
      83': Well played advantage, fully correct to book Chiellini here for a reckless tackle.
      84': Mandzukic should have been booked here IMO.

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    2. usaref19 October 2017 at 20:00

      58' - the attacker who challenged for the ball was in an OSP. The decision here is offside and it occurs before there is deliberate handling by the defender.

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  22. DutchRef19 October 2017 at 13:04

    Bayern München - Celtic (Sergey Karasev)

    3' Foul Müller (BAY); careless, reckless, excessive
    https://streamable.com/zltn2

    6' Goal BAY disallowed; out-ball decision
    https://streamable.com/t28vy

    7' Penalty situation BAY; holding
    https://streamable.com/o9wpc

    38' YC Roberts (CEL); tackle
    https://streamable.com/i6pqz

    62' Goal BAY disallowed; offside
    https://streamable.com/r7pnr

    85' Goal CEL disallowed; offside
    https://streamable.com/vr64d

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    1. Euro Soccer Ref19 October 2017 at 15:02

      3' - SFP, endangering the safety of an opponent
      6' - ball in play
      7' - penalty and... in Poland it's not 100% DOGSO, don't know about UEFA, but RC for DOGSO would be preferable in my eyes
      38' - OK
      62' - offside
      85' - most likely offside, difficult for the AR involved

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    2. Michael19 October 2017 at 15:07

      For the last offside incident, I'm not sure who actually touched it last - slowing it down to 1/4 speed it looks like it might've been the Bayern player who kicked it through?

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    3. Stake19 October 2017 at 15:19

      3': clear SFP for me, red card had to be issued!
      6': the ball didn't very likely not cross the line, the goal should have stood.
      7': PK + RC for DOGSO. Lewandowski would have been through. No chance to play the ball for Lustig.
      38': reckless tackle, correct decision.
      62': offside
      85': offside, well spotted by AR2.

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  23. Stake19 October 2017 at 16:33

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    1. Peter19 October 2017 at 17:07

      Orsato in group D with Juventus?
      Atkinson in group F with City?
      Çakır in group G with Beşiktaş?
      De Sousa in group G with Porto?

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    2. Stake19 October 2017 at 20:54

      Just realizing that I totally messed up. :o

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  24. DutchRef19 October 2017 at 17:25

    And finally some loose clips of the other matches:

    Barcelona - Olympiacos (William Collum)
    11'/42' Both YC's Piqué (BAR)
    https://streamable.com/kr2xc
    https://streamable.com/h6zp3

    Benfica - Manchester United (Felix Zwayer)
    5'/90+2' Both YC's Luisão (BEN)
    https://streamable.com/qwm2p
    https://streamable.com/p4v32

    62' Goal MNU; GLT
    https://streamable.com/9qpme


    CSKA Moscow-FC Basel (Björn Kuipers)
    52' Disallowed goal BAS
    https://streamable.com/ccb1q

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    1. Soham19 October 2017 at 18:22

      Can someone please analyse the disallowed Basel goal in 52' in Kuipers' game?

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    2. Euro Soccer Ref19 October 2017 at 18:37

      1) Was there an offside position at all? I don't think so.

      2) Who played the ball? It seems the white player plays the ball that is kicked by an opponent a fraction of a second later. Was that touch a deliberate play or deflection? Defending player wanted to play the ball (pro deliberate play) but the ball was played a split second before the touch by defending player is made (pro deflection).

      You can back the referee if there was an offside position but it was not. Mistake.

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    3. Soham19 October 2017 at 18:51

      There was an offside position by a White player I think... Marginally offside IMO...

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    4. usaref19 October 2017 at 19:57

      It looks like he spoke to the AAR--not the AR. I suspect the AAR gave a foul.

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    5. Soham19 October 2017 at 20:47

      But where's the foul? I can't locate it.. Please help!

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    6. Chefren19 October 2017 at 21:07

      I checked uefa.com for an official source, it is indeed reported that Kuipers punished a foul by Basel player who had scored. Not a matter of offside, indeed player was in regular position.
      So Gözübüyük took the responsibility of this very crucial call. If you watch the video when the minute of the game is 51:26 / 51:27 you can see Gözübüyük making a gesture to explain (I think) the reason of the decision. Illegal use of arm against the opponent before getting the ball and then scoring.
      In my opinion, however, it is a wrong call: the contact is less than soft and absolutely there isn't any foul.
      This should be assigned as crucial mistake...

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    7. Soham19 October 2017 at 21:35

      Even if it's supported then also an extremely soft call I must say... This explains the fact why Kuipers had a communication with Gözübüyük and then made the decision... Now a question arises why was van Boekel suddenly replaced as an AAR with Gözübüyük??

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    8. RikB19 October 2017 at 23:03

      Injury, I suppose. I missed Van Boekel in the Dutch appointments for a while.

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    9. Maldun19020 October 2017 at 12:45

      Probably it was the offence when the CSKA player want to kick the ball, but his leg was blocked by white player? Anyway, the foul seemed too soft and for my opinion is crucial mistake for the Referee and AAR1.

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    10. Soham20 October 2017 at 21:56

      Does soft always mean wrong?? 🤔

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  25. Stake19 October 2017 at 21:35

    After blatantly messing up in my predictions (4 crucial mistakes), I've updated them.

    A) United - Benfica: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
    A) Basel - Spartak: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
    B) Celtic - Bayern: Artur Soares Dias (POR)
    B) Paris - Anderlecht: Ivan Kruzliak (SVK)
    C) Roma - Chelsea: Felix Brych (GER)
    C) Atlético - Qarabag: Manuel De Sousa (POR)
    D) Sporting - Juventus: Deniz Aytekin (GER)
    D) Olympiacos - Barcelona: Martin Atkinson (ENG)
    E) Liverpool - Maribor: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
    E) Sevilla - CSKA: Ovidiu Hategan (ROU)
    F) Napoli - City: Clément Turpin (FRA)
    F) Donetsk - Feyenoord: Tasos Sidiropoulos (GRE)
    G) Porto - Leipzig: Jonas Eriksson (SWE)
    G) Beşiktaş - Monaco: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
    H) Dortmund - APOEL: Danny Makkelie (NED)
    H) Tottenham - Real: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)

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    1. Philipp S20 October 2017 at 11:45

      My predictions are
      A) United - Benfica: Gil Manzano
      A) Basel - Spartak: Hategan
      B) Celtic - Bayern: Sidiropoulos
      B) Paris - Anderlecht: Kruzliak
      C) Roma - Chelsea: Turpin
      C) Atlético - Qarabag: de Sousa
      D) Sporting - Juventus: Makkelie
      D) Olympiacos - Barcelona: Taylor
      E) Liverpool - Maribor: Gözübüyük
      E) Sevilla - Spartak: Brych
      F) Napoli - City: Eriksson
      F) Donetsk - Feyenoord: Vincic
      G) Porto - Leipzig: Atkinson
      G) Beşiktaş - Monaco: F.Borbalan
      H) Dortmund - APOEL: Mazeika
      H) Tottenham - Real: Cakir

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