Moscow, 1 July 2018 16:00 CET
Spain - Russia
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin Zeinstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Fifth Official: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
VAR: Danny Makkelie (NED)
AVAR1: Pawel Gil (POL)
AVAR 2: Mark Borsch (GER)
AVAR 3: Felix Zwayer (GER)
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DeleteShocking. I didn't understand indeed the meaning of "bold".
DeleteNazi grammar, calm down
DeleteRight, that must be the reason. Anyway, of course there is some misspelling. I‘ll correct it.
DeleteSame like Shukralla... Shaven off!
DeleteTo boldly go where no ref has gone before.
DeleteIf not goal, this should have been a penalty, I think.
ReplyDeleteWhy, Mitrović holds the defender also? :) :)
DeleteAbsolutely, Ignashevich didn't even watch the ball
Stop dragging Mitrovic in everything :D
DeleteSorry, last time, I promise
DeleteMaybe should have watched the ball?
DeleteClear PK for RUS, good decision !
ReplyDeleteClear penalty for Russia. Kuipers with an excellent positioning, but why he waited efore whistling?
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DeleteMaybe he thought it wasn’t deliberate first and then thought it was blatant. Or maybe he thought should I wait for VAR or take it right now.
DeleteMaybe he was considering handball instructions in his head. There still are the "didn't see the ball coming" and "short distance" parts to think about.
DeleteTherefore OK to take a moment in my opinion.
Replaying it in his mind to make sure that he did see what he thought he saw.
DeleteThe correct decision has been made, so well done... Referees often wait to hear if their ARs have any input to make and then make the call... Like Cunha did in France v Australia!
DeleteI made this question also because I thought of a possible intervention by AR1, but definitely too far away from the incident (maybe Kuipers had totally missed it?). What do you think?
DeleteMaybe Turpin saw it? Or he just waited abit to see if there is a goal chance?
DeleteIf Kuipers missed it totally, how did he instantly make the gesture?? That was only a 2 seconds delay and anyone should take that much time to make a correct call rather than make a rushed bad call...
DeleteCorrect penalty and yc for preventing shot.
ReplyDelete40' : Penalty awarded to Russia and Pique booked for dissent!
ReplyDeleteHe was booked for the handball.
DeleteIs it?? I thought he was booked after he kept on talking to Kuipers...
Deletegreat call, left his arm extended in hopes of a deflection.
ReplyDeleteCorrect PK.
ReplyDeletei love the way he used body language to explain what he saw so everyone understood what was going on.
ReplyDeletecard for DI or UB?
Definitely the correct call, but I was a little confused because it looked like he was signalling for offside for some reason, when he put his arm up to mimic the handball. Anyways, I think I'm nitpicking a little.
ReplyDeleteAs a referee I know he wasn’t meaning offside but your point is correct. When showing handball you shouldn’t raise your arm like that.
DeleteI think that helped the players in understanding what exactly had been penalised there!
DeleteKuipers had no choice here. Pique raised his arm like a railway signal...
ReplyDeleteGood first half by Kuipers, as we know him. Perfect positioning and communication, good body language and sometimes IMO a bit too leniant conc.foul detection and discipline, but I am getting used to that...
Well done.
I don't think the 1st half needed him to be any more strict!
DeleteApart from the penalty, expected level in my opinion.
DeleteNothing to say about first half.
Yes pretty much easy game and teams are concentrated on playing clean football rather than dirty play!
DeleteSoham with his favourite word
DeleteIt's an easy game, come on :D
DeleteA game like this isn't easy. Even at amateur level, play-off matches ask a lot of concentration from anyone. One has ho be very concentrated to keep things flowing. This game looks easy, because Kuipers does very well, but a natch from the hometeam at fhis stage can't be easy.
DeleteThe match is easy... Now reasons behind that are many and of course good refereeing is one of them!
DeleteNo, Soham, this match is not easy.
DeleteKuipers has made it easy for himself!
DeleteYes, but that's something different. As a referee observer, you can't call this easy. Here in Holland, that's not even allowed. One could call it a 'normal' match. But that sounds much more honest than the 'easy' you always use. Match isn't easy, match is normal, thanks to his good performance.
DeleteThere is big difference between easy and boring
DeleteKuipers called a similar PK at stamford bridge between Chelsea vs PSG, 2015 2nd leg, ET1.
ReplyDeleteCollina did the same thing between Chelsea vs Barcelona 2005 1st half.
Raising hands in the air is a joke and this is very clear PK.
Bad memories. Chelsea v PSG was one match that went horribly wrong. Was a complete nightmare and ended his season there!
DeleteThe RC at early time was controversial. The PK was not contested by PSG players. IMO, it was the early RC that ended his season.
DeleteMaybe, it was contested by Austrian oberserver Horst Brummeier?
DeleteThere were some missed incidents which were crucial... The PK or RC weren't problems!
DeleteYep, RC was the problem. Confirmed by Pol van Boekel.
DeleteSorry I actually wanted to say missed RC wasn't the problem... There was 1 potential missed RC for either Luiz or Costa, I don't exactly remember, but probably that wasn't the problem... The Ibrahimovic RC was a problem indeed! Did van Boekel add anything else about the game?
DeleteMainly that this red card has come back into his mind when they refereed Dortmund (?) - Juventus. And that it was an unlucky match.
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DeleteMönchengladbach v Juventus... He did send someone off in that game too! And yeah in the Chelsea v PSG match many things just went wrong!
DeleteHe is always a class act. The most consistent referee in the WC.
ReplyDeleteReally enjoyed watching flying Dutchman :) he is all that referee needs to be.
ReplyDeleteGood luck in the 2nd half
What was the reason for the drop ball in 49'?
ReplyDeleteDid he whistle although the ball had not crossed the sideline?
Yellow for Kutepov definitely supportable but to soft for my taste
ReplyDelete58' Nice to see Kuipers' very strong reaction to dissent from a Russian player.
ReplyDeleteFor Kuipers: YC. For Ramos, it probably wouldn't even been a foul.
ReplyDeletesoft yellow card.there wasn't stoping a promising attack
ReplyDeleteSoft but not incorrect... Supportable!
DeleteMr.soham.Thanks for yr reactions on this page.As a young referee,i learn a lot from you.
DeleteThank you so much friend... I'm also a young referee like you and learning things from experienced people and that's what I share here :)
DeleteFunny communication between AR1 and Kuipers :D
ReplyDeleteHe said 'Goed zo', meaning 'Well done.'
DeleteThere was also a thumbs up gesture.
DeleteThis'd be a nice one to get a short video clip of -- good to show Ref/AR communications.
DeleteWrong offside call by AR1
ReplyDeleteThere has been none in this match yet!
DeleteZzzzzz...zzz...
ReplyDeleteIt's still end to end stuff you see :D
DeleteGreat refereeing by the Dutch man.A true meaning of a referee
ReplyDeleteMissed offside by AR2 in 87'.
ReplyDeleteWas it offside? Seemed onside here on the replay??
DeleteYes, for me it was quite clear.
DeleteLooked offside from the angle shown (which was poor), but close enough that they may have been waiting for the potential goal scoring chance and VAR.
DeleteOh then I have misinterpreted... Was a poor angle shown though!
DeleteThe angle was clear. You could see the grass lines and compare. About 2-3 meters offside
DeleteClear offside. Easy to detect based on grass cutting lines
DeleteI must have missed it! 7.9 for me! :D
DeleteRemember that we've had those grass angles before, but we can't tell the vertical placement all that well, just the placement at ground level.
DeleteThat's why I say that it looked offside from the angle shown... which was poor.
Was offside
ReplyDeleteExtra time! I'm surprised, I expected a clear victory for Spain.
ReplyDeleteMe too but at the same time they play very low quality football in this tournament. Just a big name like Argentina was.
Deletegreat 90 by the referee.
ReplyDeleteThere is possibility of 4th sub in ET, right?
ReplyDelete104min. Was that a foul? No contact with the ESP player.
ReplyDeleteIt was a lunging challenge. Got ball, but probably should have been a caution.
DeleteKuipers appeared to explain to the player "because you got the ball and no player, that's why you're not getting a caution"
DeleteVery important decision right now... more than crucial, a penalty could have been decisive for Spain qualification. VAR took some time, but at the end one can agree. Not a clear mistake.
ReplyDeletePlease note, very big responsibility here for the outcome of the game, directly on Makkelie. I think supportable to play on.
There was a shirt hold, but it _appeared_ that the Russian player let go of the shirt as the kick came in.
DeleteThat might have been enough for Makkelie to say "no clear error".
Plus lots of mutual holding to give a penalty... Spanish players were equally holding and pushing there...
DeleteIMO
DeleteRamos-mutual pulling
Pique-not enough
I would prefer a YC for the mobbing actually...that was pretty aggressive, with the VAR signal...
DeleteAnd good ecision to play on IMO.
Wasn't agressive and it got calmed down very quickly!
DeleteIt was very aggressive and 3 players were running at him and then they started pushing the opponent too
DeleteThere was hardly any gestures and the referee managed it pretty quickly. No need to dish out a card there as Collina said in the press conference!
DeletePique was pulled but Ramos also pulled someone else. No clear and obvious error. Good decision not to give PK. Great cooperation Kuipers-Makkelie again
ReplyDeleteI have the same view... Mutual holding but anyway not enough for a penalty... No penalty for sure the more favourable call there!
DeleteTurpin moving much with the game at the sideline. He jogged when spain did a counter attack to keep up with play. Funny to see
ReplyDeleteHe is running yoyo test, speed 14
DeleteTurpin even scolded someone in the technical area quite fiercely :D :D
DeleteI really like Turpin. He is running on the line so that he helps in evaluating scenes. Fourth official for the final;)
ReplyDeleteWith Faghani??
DeleteDefinitely!
DeleteAgreed, he was excellent in that role, I hope FIFA appoints him again there.
DeleteIt depends how far the French national team will get 😉
DeletePenalty shoot-out. Now everything is possible.
ReplyDeleteFor me both decisions supportable. 2xholding - but not clear enough because holding from both sides. A PK was definitely possible - bit not mandatory. Great job by the team!!!
ReplyDeletePenalties...oh, dear.
ReplyDeleteNow Kuipers i probably happy because it’s hard to make a misstake as a refree in a penalty shoot-out
ReplyDeleteNice and transparent coin toss
ReplyDelete(Remember Kassai with wrong toss on EURO)
Nice RAP memories.
DeleteWait for tonight, Pitana has Coca Cola coin
DeleteFull of personality :D
DeleteGreat performance by Kuipers.
ReplyDeleteI expect a quater final match and then the final.
This guy and his team are just complete package.
I'm sure FIFA assigned him for this match having in mind his way of dealing tough situations and the pressure this game generates since the host is playing.
If FIFA gives him another game, I think that will be either a SF or the Final...
DeleteI agree but QF and Final?
DeleteThis is his 3rd match, I think he will be recorder with 5 matches
Irmatov had 5 matches in 2010, so it is possible.
DeleteBut I also think, the next match will be one of the last 4.
Well,I believe FIFA sees the quater finals as a final test in order to decide who to asssign for the last three matches.
DeleteIf Colina has the last word, then I think we all can't be surprised since he had decisions in assigning the same referee in several consecutive important mathes (last year with Cakir).
Directly in a semifinal or final. He is one of the last "three names". I don't consider third place final as important.
DeleteP.s.
DeleteDear Soham,I appreciate your opinions but I got confused of uyou reply.
Do you doubt about Kuipers getting another match?
What do you think about his chances for the last three matches?
Hi Bob. Of course I believe he should get another match but I don't think it will be a QF and Final after this. Either directly a SF or the Final will be my prediction. DrMr explained the same thing, that's what I meant to say basically :)
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DeleteWell done one of our own.
ReplyDeleteSure he is a very serious final-candidate now. Nearly nothing to critisize - he is the elegant Sir on the green.
ReplyDelete👍
DeleteSir on the green :D I loved this one :D :D
DeleteSpain went home. D:
ReplyDeleteI would say Kuipers will be either appointed for a SF or 4th official in the Final.
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DeleteWhy not main referee in Final? Because Spain got eliminated with him in charge? :D
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DeleteBecause I believe the Final will be UEFA against CONMEBOL.
DeleteHe's done a good job today. The penalty claim was supportable for me.
How about a France v England final? :D
DeleteKuipers is one of my favorite referees, gentlemen on the field. Good luck to him.
ReplyDeleteFelix Brych for the Final??
DeleteAre you kiddin me?
Delete@ Soham - yeah man :)))
DeleteNo worries DrMr, that was a joke...
Mazic for the final !!!
I'm not his lobbyst, calm down.
DeleteI like to taunt you guys with that name :D :D
DeleteSerbian team was unlucky to end up at 0.7% by PLC and to go home because of that. I know that you are teasing us with dark humor.
DeleteBTW I would really love to have Mazic team in the final, those are my ex colleagues and personal friends.
Niko, then I must apologise for my answer. I thought you were sarcastic because mostly I comment about my countryman.
DeletePS Good luck in penalty shoot-out
Apparently Mr. Brych will also go home along with Serbia!
DeleteWe cannot say that would be without a reason:)
DeleteDrMr, no worries. Go team M.
At times he was really smiling and seemed to be having a great time. Great team work. Very impressive. He always looked to be in the place he should have been. I would be happy to see him again. He is an easy problem solver especially having so many European teams still in.
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ReplyDeleteThe tackle by the Russian where he got all ball but came in with studs showing IDFK for dangerous play or DFK?
ReplyDeleteWho is the big candidate for final guys? Yesterday was faghani today changed to kuipers and tomorrow you guys will find another name:)
ReplyDeleteWe didn't say there is only one candidate, just point that after their good performances, both Faghani and Kuipers deserve to get the final
DeleteExactly! There are many candidates who can whistle the Final match... The day there is just one clear candidate for the WC final, surely we can say refereeing in the world stage is at a poor level!
DeleteAnd Faghani will have another chance in 4 years. I'd give Faghani a semi-final and Kuipers the fibal.
DeleteThis is a good point of consideration for sure!
DeleteWhat is your opinion about Akinfeev leave the lines before shoot in penalty series? In polish tv was row beetween former goalkeeper and former referee :) in my opinion all rights.
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DeleteI got a snapshot and one leg was clearly on the line when the kick was taken! So all fine there!
DeleteAny of you noticed that the linesman was standing a few meters behind from the regular place at the penatly shoot-out? does anybody have any explanation for that positioning?
ReplyDeleteThey have VAR so he is really jusy standing there ”for show”
DeleteThey also have GLT
DeleteWhat was different about that positioning?
DeleteHe was standing like 10 meters from the post, not 5,5. And I was just wondering why.
DeleteI thought it was a new expectation from the ARs but then I saw Pitana's AR was in the regular position.
Maybe to have better overview on the behaviour of the keeper.
DeleteHave you seen the situation at 114 min on reply? Pique was clearly hold - clear penalty for me, Kuipers should at least run to the screen. Till then solid performance, good personality, but that is situation which can sent home.
ReplyDeleteLol no... View that situation in real time and not in super slow motion as Collina said... That minimal holding is never enough for a penalty... And Ramos situation was clearly mutual holding... So no penalty, just play on!
DeleteFirst, I like Kuipers style too.
DeleteNot looked at that view, don`t say that, anyway, Pique couldn`t jump(Mitrovic could do that) because he was holded, is that minimal holding?( i dont think so) Ramos situation is more interesting - Ramos is with his back to the ball, why he would hold a Russian - no reason, the Russian hold Ramos and what is Ramos doing - he tries to escape with his hands pushing the Russian(interesting - think about that) - and you call that mutual holding. I can even say 2 penalties. Really interesting situation, clear to me, but that is the weel of the History, it turned to exactly Ramos and Pique, deserved i think.
Not a penalty for me... When there is mutual holding, just play on! That's what I know to be the most favourable call in such cases!
DeleteBetter to read what i wrote, it is interesting too!
DeleteOT :
ReplyDeleteMakkelie appointed as VAR to Geiger in Colombia v England... This is surely a clear indication that Makkelie backing the no penalty award to Spain has been assessed as a correct decision??
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