Wednesday, 13 February 2019

Champions League 2018/19 - Referee Appointments - Round of 16 (First Leg, II)

Second set of referee appointments for Wednesday 13/02 of CL round of 16. Thank to kronikasedziowska for the appointments. 
13.02.2019, 21:00 CET
Wembley Stadium, London (ENG)
Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Xavier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hans Reijgwart (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)

13.02.2019, 21:00 CET
Johan Cruijff Arena, Amsterdam (NED)
AFC Ajax (NED) - Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Referee: Damir Skomina (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert Vukan (SVN)
Fourth Official: Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Andrew Shaw (ENG)

93 comments:

  1. Two new articles on uefa.com:
    https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/protecting-the-game/refereeing/news/newsid=2590744.html
    https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/protecting-the-game/refereeing/news/newsid=2590750.html

    Not much news for the regular blog readers, I think.

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  2. OT: Ligue 1 Conforama (Matchday 25)

    15.02 (Friday)
    Lyon - Guingamp, 20:45 CET, Referee: Antony Gautier (VAR: Mikael Lesage)

    16.02 (Saturday)
    Marseille - Amiens, 17:00 CET, Referee: Johan Hamel (VAR: Mikael Lesage)
    Angers - Nice, 20:00 CET, Referee: Frank Schneider (VAR: Alexandre Castro)
    Monaco - Nantes, 20:00 CET, Referee: Olivier Thual (VAR: Aurelien Petit)
    Nîmes - Dijon, 20:00 CET, Referee: Jérôme Miguelgorry (VAR: Karim Abed)

    17.02 (Sunday)
    Caen - Strasbourg, 15:00 CET, Referee: Thomas Leonard (VAR: Lionel Jaffredo)
    Lille - Montpellier, 15:00 CET, Referee: Ruddy Buquet (VAR: Willy Delajod)
    Bordeaux - Toulouse, 15:00 CET, Referee: Hakim Ben El Hadj (VAR: Wilfried Bien)
    Reims - Rennes, 17:00 CET, Referee: Florent Batta (VAR: Bruno Coue)
    Saint-Etienne - PSG, 21:00 CET, Referee: Benoît Bastien (VAR: Amaury Delerue)

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  3. 4 FIFA referees from same nation in the same match seem too many for me. I thought AVAR would be an AR.

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  4. There has been some change in the refree team Ajax vs Real Madrid https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2019/matches/round=2000981/match=2026847/match-info/index.html?iv=true

    Skomina is main referee, Marciniak VAR

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    1. Strange, I don't remember something like that recently, only reason could be that Marciniak got injured in the last hours.
      Any info from Poland?

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    2. Just guesses but the answer for this might be Tomasz Listkiewicz who is no one AR2 to Marciniak while 2 days ago in POL league Marciniak was officiating a game in POL football with exactly same team that was announced for Ajax-Real (incl. Gil & Raczkowski on VAR in that POL game) while AR2 to him in that game was Michal Gajda which was rather unusual.

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    3. Szymon Marciniak is slightly injured. If everything will be OK, he will appear later in UEFA competitions.

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    4. Thanks for the info!
      The appointment of Rade Obrenovič (Cat. 3) as fourth should mean that both Jug and Vinčić will appear in EL on Thursday, othwerwise one of them would have been appointed there.
      We will know more tomorrow.

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  5. Pol van Boekel is a busy man these days... First a match in Dutch Eredivisie on Sunday, then on Tuesday he is Makkelie's VAR in Rome and then on Thursday he is AVAR in Gözübüyük's team in the EL match in Plzen.

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    1. Additional assistant referee for EL

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    2. You're right, I meant AAR instead of AVAR :)

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  6. Who predicted for referee, Liverpool v Bayern Munchen next week?

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    1. Should be either Kuipers or Rocchi, because Cakir had Liverpool in the group stage (still possible though) and Mazic has EL this week.
      I guess, Rocchi with the first leg and Kuipers with the decisive second game.

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    2. Kuipers has no match in this weekend and his assistant referees van Roekel and Zeinstra are in use.

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  7. There are already people on Twitter talking cr*p about Marciniak being replaced because "Florentino Pérez (RM president) ordered it to UEFA" (So, if he really wanted to get rid of him, why is he appointed as VAR?) and getting massive retweets.

    Fed up with these people, always selling conspiracy theories.

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    1. It's Twitter. What do you expect? 😂😂😂

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  8. MANCHESTER UNITED - PARIS SAINT-GERMAIN
    Daniele Orsato, Fabiano Preti, Alessandro Costanzo, Daniele Doveri
    VARs: Massimiliano Irrati, Marco Guida
    Observer: Eugen Strigel

    1H

    01', Stopping a Promising Attack?
    https://streamable.com/z87kz

    10', Yellow Card (SPA)
    https://streamable.com/6q3z5

    18', Reckless Elbow?
    https://streamable.com/35xk3

    18', Yellow Card (Reckless Tackle)
    https://streamable.com/z5dmk

    21', Reckless Strike?
    https://streamable.com/r5qt8

    22', Foul?
    https://streamable.com/6508x

    24', Yellow Card (Reckless Tackle)
    https://streamable.com/l8fio

    28', Conflict (In-Play, Management)
    https://streamable.com/138fa

    29', Yellow Card (SPA)
    https://streamable.com/optik

    32', Correct play on (no 2nd YC)
    https://streamable.com/erx9s

    33', Yellow Card (Reckless Tackle)
    https://streamable.com/sclg4

    38', 2nd Yellow Card (Unsporting Behaviour)? Management?
    https://streamable.com/0xyhc

    41', Penalty?
    https://streamable.com/x8s3h

    44', Yellow Card (Reckless Tackle)
    https://streamable.com/4sacc

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    1. 2H

      46', 2nd Yellow Card?
      https://streamable.com/76cj7

      47', Reckless Elbow
      https://streamable.com/4bc03

      49', Yellow Card (SPA)
      https://streamable.com/77zuw

      61', Yellow Card (SPA), Management?
      https://streamable.com/yb9ur

      86', Yellow Card (SPA)
      https://streamable.com/3voj6

      87', 2nd Yellow Card (Reckless Tackle), Management?
      https://streamable.com/1llet

      90', Yellow Card (Reckless Tackle)
      https://streamable.com/dwwgn

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    2. 26', 2nd Yellow Card (Reckless Tackle)?
      https://streamable.com/180pn

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    3. Given the no-card at 21' and Orsato's gesticulation once awarded, I think Pogba's first caution was for persistent infringement.

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    4. Challenging game for Daniele.

      Five potential 2nd yellow cards (27' - Pogba, 33' - Kimpembe, 40' - Young, 47' - Kimpembe), only one given (89').

      All of them were very borderline situations and we saw typical UEFA refereeing - no problem with yellow cards but red ones only in dying stages.

      I missed a clear line in disciplinary control in this game. Clear SPA in 3' not punished, the same player (Marquinhos) uses his arm in a reckless manner in 48' and is not punished again. The problem with illegal use of arms was a bigger one - Matić (19'), Pogba (22'), Marquinhos (48') not booked for quite clear bookable offences.

      An average, not really impressing performance, but the game was still under control and the ref was rather accepted by the players.

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  9. Wrong offside by AR2 in Ajax-RMD, Tadic was in his own half..

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    2. Upper body was off, don't listen to Aca Informacija :)

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  10. First OFR in CL, Correct offside decision since Tadic blocked GK..

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    1. I agree with Skomina going for OFR and deciding for offside. IMO great job by Skomina and Marciniak both.

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  11. 39‘ missed foul and YC 20 metres away from goal by Lahoz. Apart from that good performance by the Spanish crew so far

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  12. VAR disallowed goal in Amsterdam. What happened there?

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    1. Tadic who was in offside blocked GK so he couldnt intervene..

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    2. Offside against Tadic for interfering w/ GK.

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    3. Offside. Striker blocking goalie after corner kick rebound header.

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    4. As I can read a correct decision, fine :)

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  13. First OFR in CL: correct decision by Skomina, player in offside was active in the action. Impossible to call this offside without technology, if you ask me. Very well done.

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  14. He rewieved Tadic's ascendance on this goal.

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  15. It wasn't easy, spot-on by Marciniak.

    Could have been a previous offside in Tadic attempted shoot (IMO he touched the ball and then Tagliafico was already offside).

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    1. No Tagliafico was not in offside position.

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  16. I Agree Cheffren. Line of sight, and position of RM gk and and last defender, was to hard to detect by human eye.

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  17. Not an easy call for Marciniak as well, one must be alert to notice that. You can see how much difficult is the work of VAR, like the main referee on the pitch. One could have focused on the other offside assessment, missing this one... I praise the Polish behind the monitor. At the same time, I think no faults at all for assistant referee on the pitch, he had to see this offside and to assess it as punishable in a so short time while making other assessments as well.
    The first VAR intervention in CL has been for a very specific situation, Rosetti can be proud.

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    1. On TV we could hear everything Skomina said when he watched replay. Excellent job by Polish team.

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  18. Harsh for Ajax who have played well but correct decision although for most clueless fans it is not going down well on social media.

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  19. Offside decision in first half. You can see that AR was watching the ball not where player was or im wrong?
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzUF52mWsAEzAod.jpg:large

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    1. From that angle there is no way to tell if he was on his own half or not. We have to trust the AR. The angle is terrible to decide and as usual they don't offer 3D lines so we can see.

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  20. Video:
    https://streamable.com/raa1d

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  21. Credits to former Spanish FIFA referee Arturo Daudén Ibáñez.

    2 offsides in Ajax VAR disallowed goal.

    Offside reviewed by Skomina:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzUHk8IW0AANkza.jpg


    Previous offside: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzUHp16XcAEkjD7.jpg

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    1. That would be true if Tadic touched the ball, but I can’t see properly if he really did. To be honest I tend to think he didn’t because if so, the VAR would have shown that situation to Skomina instead of the second.

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    2. IMO he does touch it. Would have been an OFR-esque issue if Marciniak had agreed with me.

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    3. You could be right, the clip should be watched more carefully and with a zoom to be sure.

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    4. VAR should have checked that, it looks like there wasn't a touch. However, it is possible that if they were in doubt, they showed only second situation to Skomina...

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    5. It's unnaceptable that we as viewers were not offered better angles and zooms for the first touch/no touch situation to see if there was contact.

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  22. Ziyech went to the crow to celebrate the goal and he's got already a YC...should have been sent off.

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    1. After this reaction. I can’t take you seriously anymore.

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    2. Yes he should definetely get a second yellow card but the referee wants to live :) In other words follow directives and close your eyes for those things.

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  23. It is my pleasure to post this link with an excellent analysis written by our friend Dutch Referee:
    https://www.dutchreferee.com/var-disallows-goal-in-champions-league/

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  24. Hey guys, in 80' of the Ajax - Real match, I guess I'd have loved to see a dropped ball by Skomina for the ball hitting the plastic cup (foreign object) inside of the field of play. In my opinion it was obvious that this touch was the reason why the keeper missed the ball and therefore I didn't really like the corner kick decision. What do you think?

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    1. Yes, hopefully all officials missed it but that's obviously a drop ball not a corner kick.

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  25. An expected level performance by Mateu Lahoz in Wembley. No problems.

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  26. Expected level by Mateu Lahoz, not really challenging match. Missed quite a blatant free kick + YC in 38' which surprised everyone in the stadium, apart from that fine.

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  27. I am reading about a foul in midfield before Real's 1:2. Any opinions on that?

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    1. Haven't seen a good replay, but IMO it was a correct decision from Marcziniak NOT to initiate an on field review. Not a clear and obvious mistake there. On the other hand, Skomina was quite close to the situation, maybe he could have chosen to review it himself, but I'm not sure about his angle of vision (whether he clearly saw what happened there).

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    2. I agree with Marciniak not to initiate OFR. Not a clear mistake, for me not a clear foul, expecialy if you consider Skomina's criteria for fouls during entire match.

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    3. That as well... If Skomina saw it and said to Marcziniak that "this is my line of refereeing, I saw it clearly, this is not a foul", I would totally agree...

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  28. Interesting, the CL twitter account has given an explanation for the disallowed goal.

    https://twitter.com/ChampionsLeague/status/1095805860981469184
    https://twitter.com/ChampionsLeague/status/1095805863389024262

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    1. To be honest, reading some comments of football fans, I get always more and more disappointed and sad. Nowadays, it is impossible to teach something to people. They are too stupid... sorry for my harsh words, but it is what I think. Also adult people are included in this speech.

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    2. I agree with Chefren. They've already made up their minds so no matter what you tell/show them they won't listen--their ears are covered to the truth and facts. Sigh

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    3. I couldn't agree more, Chefren. As a person who is active on Twitter, I know something about it!

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    4. +1, Chefren.

      As a Spaniard (also commented about it above) I'm fed up of there people.

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    5. Stupidity and unwillingness to learn and/or accept. Aye.

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    6. We are discussing this issue from a referee's perspective (I assume all of us have done some referee work). Many things that we consider as obvious are not known by the fans. Most fans never read LotG and you don't need to read LotG to be a football fan. Fans are never taught the rules, but they definitely can be taught. We need a proper media channel and people with credentials to constantly spread the knowledge.

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    7. I remember during the World Cup, a commentator in China (where I come from) described the new standard for deliberate handling like a common rule. People accept it easily and a lot less toxic discussion appeared on internet.

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    8. The comments are so extremely ignorant it's entertaining to see what people have to say.

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  29. There seems to be much controversy around the Ajax v Mardid game but as far as I can tell most of it was because of the commentator implying that Madrid always get the decisions their way.

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    1. The commentators are just as useless and to think they supposedly "know" football or are "experts" is a joke. They were even slating Orsato yesterday for giving Pogba a second yellow!

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    2. Exactly that could have been a red card on another day.. the comm3ntator said it was harsh at this stage to give a red card because it was 89th minute I was angry with what I heard

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  30. I couldn't watch yesterday games, but from what I have seen today and what I have read here, I have to congratulate Marciniak and Skomina for their decision regarding Ajax disallowed goal, for it was a very difficult one and solved correctly.

    Also, I'm happy to read that Mateu had a good game and that I lost my "bet" (I said it because, sometimes, he is unlucky with such things!).

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    1. Yeah, because Internet doesn't exist and there isn't a link to a video of the situation on a comment in this very blog post. This is regarding your note, in which I feel addressed to.

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    2. It's obvious in your comment that you are not a referee and have no knowledge of law 11. I haven't seen a single referee so far who has said the decision to whistle offside was wrong.

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  32. I don’t understand you. Rules are rules. And decision was correct!

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  33. OT

    German Tobias Stieler (and not Ville Nevalainen as previously reported by Finnish FA) will handle the Greek derby Olympiakos - AEK. His assistants will be Mattias Jöllenbeck and Christian Gittelmann.

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  34. I want to know if you agree with these 3 sentences :

    1. Tadic interfered with the attempt of Courtois to play the ball
    2. Courtois didn't have any real chance to play (save) the ball in that situation
    3. Tadic didn't influence the outcome of this situation (goal)

    According to LOTG it was offside, I agree. But LOTG regarding offside should be more specific.

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    1. On the contrary laws of the game regarding a player in an offside situation interfering are quite specific which are
      preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
      challenging an opponent for the ball or
      clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
      making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball..... So adding that the goalie has no chance of getting the ball to lotg will make it subjective and controversy will abound

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  36. Champions League 2018/19 round of 16 - Week 1 - Vote for the best referee's performance.
    The poll will end on Saturday 16/02 at 8:30 am.

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