German Elite Felix Brych is appointed for the first leg of 2020-21 Champions League semifinal between PSG and Manchester City.
28.04.2021, 21:00 CET
Parc des Princes, Paris (FRA)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - Manchester City FC (ENG)
Parc des Princes, Paris (FRA)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - Manchester City FC (ENG)
Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mark Borsch (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Fourth Official: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: David Andrew McDowell Zor (SVN)
Fourth Official: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: David Andrew McDowell Zor (SVN)
A very good choice ! Clearly!
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Good appointment for Brych ! Good luck !
ReplyDelete30th CL KO match for Brych (if I counted correctly).
ReplyDeleteA possible EURO team with him - meaning a First group referee as potential replacement. However after EL QF and EURO selection, Siebert is practically Elite, I think.
Rosetti observing probably mostly due to the importance of the game - but maybe also evaluating a final candidate for the summer.
Great and expected appointment. Kuipers and Brych in my opinion THE two candidates for EURO final. That might explain Rosetti as observer.
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I have to disagree again, although I havent shared any confidential information so far. Imagine that there is a confidential document with the names of the refereeing team. If someone makes that document it public, it would be forbidden. Also what is forbidden is sharing information, and that is the potential problem for the person who does it. But for media and social networks: anonymous informal, unofficial information, which is basically a rumour, cannot be dangerous because anyone can write anything on social networks or blogs, and noone can proove that this information is not merely a guess. I could have posted last year that Orsato will officiate CL final, and it would have been right, but I didnt have any information on that matter.
DeleteIn brief, it is ok if you dont want to share the info you get for moral reasons, and also it is hugely irresponsible (even STUPID) if someone posts confidential information AND names the source. But comments like "unofficial information is that Vincic is appointed for EL semifinal game XY" wouldnt be a reason for concern.
DeleteBut besides the arguments of you two, it takes the excitement away. E.g. Brych's appointment (including 4O) was leaked here on Sunday for some minutes. If more readers had seen it or if it wasn't deleted at all, we wouldn't have the nice discussions yesterday. And I personally would have been more excited about the appointment this morning, if I had not (nearly) known it already.
DeleteAnd it doesn't really, how trustworthy it is: Once an appointment is claimed to be revealed, the discussions appear senseless and if it's true, the official release is just a boring confirmation. And if it's false, it was even wronger to post that comment and deceive the readers.
I agree with Forlan: independent blogs and websites should not wait for official press released. The main role of independent media is to find and present information before the official press release. If the British tabloids would wait for press releases, no one will read them.
DeleteCompletely agreed with Chefren and Mikael and their statement! Maybe Anonymous 19:44 has different expectations of this blog, of course that’s possible, but in my view this blog’s main purpose is to provide a platform for discussions about refereeing on a content level, and not so much delivering scoops for the curious. Of course the swift publication of relevant pieces of information is an appreciated service, but not at the cost of potentially harming a referee(-ing team).
DeleteAnd actually I can only be happy that this blog cannot stand comparison with any British tabloid as those are not so much characterized by the quality of their content :)
DutchRef, my expectations are according to what is stated at the top of this blog: "Blog about the man in the middle: appointments, analysis, discussions and much more." That indicates to the readers that they can expect "much more" than appointments and technical analysis. If that is not the case, that statement should be changed to reflect the real purpose of this blog. Referees signed confidentiality agreements, not the regular readers, who are not employed by FIFA, UEFA, etc, and should be allowed to freely share information, according to the democratic principle of freedom of speech.
DeleteWell, the “much more” is a rather undefined aspect, but bearing in mind the administrators statement revealing of still confidential appointments is obviously not included.
DeleteThe regular readers don’t have any obligation to keep confidential information confidential, true, but their sources do. The consequences however (withdrawal of the particular appointment) can affect and harm the referee(s) involved. And that’s what the blog administrators would like to avoid, asking all blog users kindly to respect their appeal.
That shouldn’t be too big an issue IMHO.
If you expect to find scoops, this is a wrong place.
DeleteThis blog was born (also its previous version) as pure passion for international refereeing and nothing more. We are not interested in reporting scoops, we just enjoy the discussions about refereeing. "Much more" can be everything, as DutchRef said, we offer some informations that you can't find elsewhere. This is how we want to keep the blog forever, without any obligation, without being forced to post something.
I don't know if you are a referee, but at least you don't know how it really works in terms of revealing confidential appointments. The officials in charge would be in danger, they can be removed from their duties. Would you be so cowardly (sorry for the term, but I must be clear) in making a scoop and in this way, hurting people? No, of course... so if you expect more, and maybe even scoops, you can find them elsewhere.
Official sources must come before, I'm not interested in having many readers, but I'm interested in the contents and quality of the blog related to its natural topic (refereeing).
Kuipers appointed for Heracles - VVV-Venlo in the Eredivisie coming friday. I guess that will mean that Kuipers will be in charge of second leg Manchester City - PSG next week on tuesday
ReplyDeleteCan be, but also this match is for both teams very important,
DeleteHeracles Almelo need to win to keep chances for play-offs, and VVV needs to win desperate to avoid degradation
Deserved and expected appointment by Brych. I expected him in 1st leg instead of 2nd leg. Now I am very interested to see if we will see Kuipers in CL 2nd leg. If yes, it is completely expected. If not, can we say that he will probably appointed in the final as the second time if Madrid is in the final? I will even more happy if the latter happens!
ReplyDeleteGiving the fact that almost no referee got semifinal and final in the same season (expect Clattenburg in 2016), IMO Makkelie is not likely to get the final, no matter Madrid is in the final or not.
OT
ReplyDeleteA few scenes from Greek SL this weekend.
Atromitos - Larisa (Ref Karantonis VAR Skoulas
30' https://streamable.com/mx8ria
36' https://streamable.com/fh3nnk
Larisa - OFI (Ref Sidiropoulos VAR Gestranius)
59' https://streamable.com/nx1xbj
83' https://streamable.com/n0m7qi
PAOK - Panathinaikos (Ref Gestranius VAR Dobrynin)
78' https://streamable.com/8wier4
IMO
Delete1) Correct decision. The GK uses his hands outside the box.
2) This one seems wierd, however, based on the shown pictures, supportable decision.
3) No penalty for me. The ball is played, the trailing leg does not initiate any contact.
4) Clear case of Serious Foul Play, good use of VAR system. Open studs above the ankle. In the following mass confrontation, he seems a bit unaware and could have acted more proactive, I think.
5) FK and YC is correct, but of course a bad anticipation and a blatant advantage missed. He admits it himself, can happen.
Sad in Greece to see this from Sidiropoulos. Psychological effect of no Euros?.Rescue by VAR two times.
DeleteMy appointment.
ReplyDeleteVillareal-FC Arsenal: Rapalino (Arg) / Gil (Pol)
Manchester United-Roma: Soares (Por) / Pinheiro (Por)
Manchester City-Paris: Karasev (Rus) / Hernandez (Esp)
Chelsea London-Real Madrid: Aytekin (Ger) / Zwayer (Ger)
FC Arsenal-Villareal: Bogmar Tamas (Hun) / Blom (Ned)
Roma-Manchester United: Ekberg Andreas (Swe) / Sanchez (Esp)
I hope you're joking. Ekberg and Dias are reasonable but Karasev, never, Aytekin,never, the Argentinia won't get anything and Tamas won't happen either.
DeleteDid you fall on your head (smile) !!!
Deleteor a bad nightmare ??
But if you win your bet-appointements the same question should be then asked to UEFA
You made my evening lol
have you been drinking or are you joking
DeleteHahaha!
DeleteI change opinion, I'm flexible.
DeleteBogmar-Tamás, Karasev-Sergei, Aytekin-Deniz, Rapalino-Fernando out. In: Madden-Bobbert Sco, Kulbakou-Aleksei Blr (champions league), Kabakov-Georg Bul, Kuchin-Artomy Kaz (europa league)
All wrong!
Delete@Anonymous:
DeleteEspecially BOBBERT sounds reasonable, he got great marks as we can read in his last observer's report:
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If Peter spends a minute to play the know-it-all then my fake prediction had some sense.
DeleteCakir and Kuipers the dynamic duo for the second legs in my opinion. Would have said Makkelie for the final but unlikely now that he’s got the semifinal. Can’t be Lahoz or Taylor, surely not. Who will it be this year?
ReplyDeleteIf Madrid in final, I would love to see Kuipers for his second CL final. If Madrid not in final, then I prefer Lahoz because he is fully deserved.
DeleteYes. Nobody officiated final twice that means Cakir & Kuipers still being capable maximum goings to get the semis. So Carlos Grande, Lahoz, Dias and Taylor are potential candidates for final. But Lahoz & Taylor are favourite but should have a great chance to miss.
DeleteSo who else?
I think Makkelie is still candidate for the final. He received a first leg and Madrid at home is less challenging then a return in London. Also the time to the final with a 1st leg is enough far away. UEFA probably wants to reward Makkelie with a semi final for his good performances this season, taking into account that he could have nothing when Madrid goes out (Lahoz final). If Makkelie has a smooth game tomorrow without big discussion he is still favourite together with Lahoz. And to give the final for a second time to the same referee would be poor management and showing distrust in the new generation.
ReplyDeleteWhat are the chances of Turpin getting the final?
ReplyDeleteReal-City Turpin
DeleteReal-PSG Makkelie
PSG-Chelsea Lahoz
City-Chelsea Lahoz
My opinion
I fully agree with this list by Superstar.
DeleteLet’s also not forget that every VAR intervention means a big mistake by the referee. I see Taylor so many times in front of the screen that a final for him wouldn’t be a deserved appointment.
Agreed, Taylor is overrated, favoured by Rosetti. If you look at what Oliver has achieved at his young age he is a MUCH better official than Taylor.
DeleteMiah, superstar0110 & Anonymous what you have said that is truth but if Real and PSG in final then there is a twist is waiting for as Makkelie not going to get.
DeleteYou simply can't call overrated a referee who can handle any UEFA top clash (PSG-BAR, JUV-RM, SEV-BAY) and so on. And simply you can't compare him with Oliver who on his first real test failed (RM-JUV).
DeleteAccording to an interview, Marciniak stated that he could officiate in Poland because domestic games are different from UEFA competitions. Can we believe that? Heart problems are very serious stuff, if not 100% solved, no activity. There is something we are missing! His words to me are not 100% true.
ReplyDeleteHe’s just not good enough. He was a rising star in the beginning but then he became precariously with many disappointing decisions and performances. Acceptance by players went down and also struggling with his physical condition (fitness); too far away from play, too muscular, injuries. And let’s not forget that he was sent home in early stages at the WC due a bad performance in Sweden - Germany. He is in the same position as Felix Zwayer. The are good, but not good enough for top level of refereeing.
DeleteMarciniak advertises Mercedes in Poland, whereas UEFA car sponsor is Nissan. Perhaps this is the reason?
DeleteHe is interested only in money! Saudi Arabia, car advertisements! Not really professional referee.
DeleteStop your hate, pls.
DeleteRegardless of the other comments, the observation that a heart condition should prevent any athlete (including officials) in any competition is correct. No one can get the green light for one competition, but not for another one. Medically, it is irresponsible. Something is indeed missing there.
DeleteI wish a full recovery to Marciniak!
Does Marciniak has heart problems ?
DeleteTurpin with Monaco-Lyon game this sunday
ReplyDeleteFrance - South Africa (Márcio Rezende) and Spain - Nigeria (Esfandiar Baharmast) are today's games from FIFA World Cup 1998.
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Excelente árbitro o Félix Brych. Ao lado do Kuipers são os dois melhores Referees da Europa na atualidade.
ReplyDeleteValdircbicudo v- Curitiba/Paraná/Brasil
EL Predictions:
ReplyDeleteVillarreal - Arsenal: Kuipers (Van Boekel)
Manchester United - Rome: Çakir (Bitigen)
2nd Legs
Arsenal - Villarreal: Orsato (Irrati)
Rome - Manchester United: Brych (Fritz)
CL 2nd legs predictions:
ReplyDeleteChelsea - Real Madrid: Cakir (Bitigen)
PSG - Manchester City: Kuipers (Van Boekel)
Appointing a Dutch referee for the first leg of Real's match leaves indeed room for a Dutch referee in the second leg of of PSG's match. In addition, Kuipers did well in PSG matches recently, so, yes, these aspects might indicate that, unless he is being kept by Rosetti for a surprise second UCL final. I am more interested to see whether Mateu gets a second leg semi-final.
DeleteWhat do you think about this? https://twitter.com/ISRAELFA/status/1386967225278545927
ReplyDeleteWhat shall I think about that? When she is a good and reliable referee, there shouldn't be a problem?
DeleteThe fact that they mention the gender is the problem. It shouldn't even matter. It would be as weird as being ''proud'' if a referee was from a certain race or religion. If they do the job correctly then who cares?
DeleteI agree, last anonymous. Just talking about, means treating him differently.
DeletePerhaps the information is known, but there are always the same VAR/referee combination at the Euro
ReplyDeleteKevin Blom - Makkelie
Pol van Boekel - Kuipers
Source https://www.vi.nl/pro/makkelie-ik-gun-bjorn-echt-een-finale-als-afscheid/share/f26fa6788e?utm_source=article&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
Although UEFA did not explicitly state that, all Euro referees and VARs are paired in teams.
DeleteBecause of lock down in Istanbul the seminar for UEFA euro referees is moved to Swiss. Let’s see what will happen the next two weeks.
ReplyDeleteArgentina - Japan (Mario van der Ende) and Yugoslavia - Iran (Alberto Tejada Noriega) are today's games from FIFA World Cup 1998.
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31' correct first YC of the match.
ReplyDeleteFull control from Brych so far.
And now maybe missed YC for Walker.
No. Better No yc in my opinion. Neymar making top much drama in my opinion
DeleteToo
DeleteSupportable call with no card. YC should be ok too.
DeleteMan City players wanted dangerous play for high boot but not close enough to player's head.
ReplyDeleteCorrect no penalty decision in 41' by Brych. Defender played the ball and Neymar fell over his legs. Overall very solid performance so far, definitely a tougher match compared to yesterday but also not heavily intense.
ReplyDeleteOverall very good performance by Brych in a quite easy match to referee. One correct YC.
ReplyDeleteSorry but, you nicknamed yourself referee analyst and you consider UCL semifinal as quite easy match?
DeleteIt's not about if it's a semifinal or a division 5 game. A game can be calm sometimes... Most of games in the world are way easier now since there are no fans. Fans are at least 75% responsible for making agame tough and ugly.
DeleteFelix Brych should be a strong candidate for the opening match of EURO.
ReplyDelete... but not for the final because Germany will win it.
DeleteGermany will win it? I don‘t think so - as a german
DeleteI am German, too. And they can be happy, if they proceed to the 2nd round, but for me there are at least 4 teams being much better, France, England, Spain and Belgium, maybe even Portugal, but that could work for Germany in the group stage, too.
DeleteI predict France winning. They are incredibly strong.
Few decisions now goes in one direction
ReplyDeleteI don't understand at all, what you mean. Brych with a nearly perfect job so far.
DeleteIt is not criticism. I agree that mostly all decisions were correct.
Deleteawful foul detection so far by brych.
ReplyDeleteDefinetly not to me. Almost perfect performance!
DeleteNot convincing 2nd half by Brych. Missed a few obvious fouls and he receives less acceptance by players for his strange foul detection. His body language shows a matter of unconcerned if you aks me.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I expected a better approach of Brych. Now we see some difference in player acceptance compared with yesterday. Especially the behaviour of Veratti towards the referee.
ReplyDeleteTotally disagree. While there were definitely two missed fouls by Brych, there is no issue with player acceptance. Verrati, as well as Neymar and others for that matter are just frustrated with how the game is going.
DeleteCorrect red card for PSG by Brych
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely correct red card. Based on waiting I guess Fritz maybe had impact on this decision...
DeleteExactly my impression Referee 12, especially because Brych clearly reached for his chest pocket before isolating the player and go for the back pocket ;)
DeleteGood YCs, esp against Neymar and now an absolutely right RC. No discussion necessary. Very well done.
ReplyDeleteVery good RC for SFP, good delayed showing procedure waiting for further injury evaluation. Well done.
ReplyDeleteExcellent RC for SFP by Brych. He got some input by Stefan Lupp, took care of Gündogan and decided to go for RC. Good procedure.
ReplyDeleteNow Brych checked the severity of the injury and then showed RC.
ReplyDeleteNot the best way to deal with a RC to be shown immediately, however absolutely correct decision and that's the most important thing.
Fully agreed, Brych was in a very good position to evaluate the foul himself and there was no need to delay the showing of the red card. Also the passive approach didn’t fit this brutal foul. Having said that, indeed the most important is that the correct sanction was issued.
DeleteI don't agree at all. IMO perfect procedure.
DeleteA few Fouls ok… But overall a really good performance! Full Control
ReplyDeleteGood YC on Neymar to stop PSG frustration fouls. Interesting that Pep's possession game is doing what Barcelona and Bayern couldn't do. Hard for PSG to score when they don't have the ball. Very dangerous RC tackle. Tackles like that deserve review and more games banned for RC offender.
ReplyDeleteHow can you see such a terrible foul not by yourself? He was clearly waiting for input; assistant/VAR? He was walking to the foul and didn’t show any intention of giving a card. This is not good refereeing. No words for this!!!
ReplyDeleteNo words for your comment! Perfect teamwork
DeleteAgree with Paddy here
DeleteThere are four officials on the pitch because one official can't see everything. They are team and the most important thing is correct decision. I have no problems with this.
DeleteAgree with Paddy.
DeleteHe could have been going RC anyway and was just waiting for the VAR to double check before showing it?
DeleteYour comment is a bit exaggerated, however as I wrote earlier this way of taking it so easy when there is an important decision is typical of Brych style. It always seems that he lets the players do what they want and then he comes with the cards only some time after the actions. In Italy it would never work, in case of such fouls you have to show the cards immediately, also to calm the players. That's his way of dealing, but for me in games with great tensions it could not work too much.
DeleteWe also can't say whether:
1) he was already sure about the RC but wanted a confirmation looking at the injured player
2) he took time to get an advice from a team-member.
I totally agree with you. Here I read comments like this is good procedure, taking care of Gundogan qnd than showing RC etc...come on, ate you serious guys? This is clearly RC given by input from VAR. His refereing is top level, excellent control etc but why some people clear mistake try to covert to something good??
DeleteThat has nothing to do with VAR - this check would come later. He surely wanted to communicate with the AR.
DeleteThe procedure is a bit 'German' I would tend to say. I agree, that in games with a lot of tense (maybe also here), the immediate RC with a stricter approach could have been more suitable.
How do you know it's VAR input? That's not how VAR works, I really doubt that they will avoid protocol in UCL semi final. For me it was surely assistant's advice.
DeleteAbsolutely never from VAR, that's sure.
DeleteBut I insist, it is just possible that Brych waited to find more elements to take the final decision by himself without any further advice by a teammember and this would explain the delay, however, under my point of view, not the best way to deal with it.
Allegedly, Brych spoke to Lupp. Lupp was a little close and saw the situation. Only speculation
DeleteAlso if you watch the German League you will see that it happens quite frequently that refs let the situation play out before handing out cards. Agree that it would never work in Italy or Spain but in this case I think it worked perfectly.
DeleteCalm down. This was RC and Brych showed it. That is all what matters.
ReplyDeleteShocking to read all these comments about the slow prodedure. Refereeing is teamwork and this a perfect example. Without using VAR, the three people on field had the chance to quickly evaluate the situation together without people would notice it.
ReplyDeleteCalm and composed presentation then with card showing procedure. Obviously the best would be to give instantly a red card without hesitation, but still this is an amazing and strong teamwork from the German team. Well done!
Anyone who understand refereeing agrees with your comment.
Delete+1
Agree. Additionally, no protests from PSG player, all managed calmly. He took the time to evaluate and to check his teammates’ ideas. Well done
DeleteIndeed excellent work. We were told to do exactly this at a recent referee meeting. The player is down and play won't be restarted for awhile so you take your time to think it through and receive input from your team, you then isolate the player and show the red card. Textbook refereeing.
DeleteDisagree, this approach would be appropriate if it concerned a complicated situation, difficult to see. This was a clear and open foul, of which Brych had an (almost) excellent view. He even wanted to go for YC, to only at the last moment change to RC. I think that late input did not come from Herr Lupp ;)
DeleteCalm down. This was RC and Brych showed it. That is all what matters.
ReplyDeleteMissed RC now for me plus missed YC for mass dissent/complaints of PSG players. Not impressed by this scene. A pity cause overall brych is good today
ReplyDeleteAgreed, never a RC
DeleteThat's not a RC.
DeleteIMO YC was enough there
DeleteClear example of reckless tackle. Point of contact matters. Clear YC.
DeleteWould love to see a yellow card for mobbing for one of the PSG players, but maybe it would heat up the situation.
Tough second half for Brych. I am nearly sure we will see Kuipers in the second leg, it can be a very challenging game.
Is this a joke? Never a RC!
DeleteYou have your opinion...but mine is red card straight...Impact with intensity above ankle...clear risk to safety of player. Dr Brych made the very right call. There is no will and no chance to play the ball.
Deleteit's the same for french media..."Awful tackle...red card deserved" are the comments. No media challenge this decision.
Safety of players is high priority for referees even at uefa. terrific tackles shown at WC2014 should be banned. Dr Brych may remember this as one back foul not punished sent him back to Germany.
IMO (i might mistake) I prefer a ref who punished too harsh this kind of foul thant the one who does only react.
I always kept in mind : Strong foul : amputation surgery for team (lol) RC. There is no way to hesitate on this foul. We may be technically less accurate... but protection of players is top priority.
Impressing how Brych keeps control with clear decisions and strong communication in the difficult last 20 minutes of the game. He changed his style when it was necessary... Typical for him.
ReplyDeleteGreat performance from Brych, excellent match control, maybe few missed cards but it was neccesary for his great game management.
ReplyDeleteIt can never be a ''great performance'' if you think a few cards were missed.
DeleteConsidering refereeing, I think we can say that first legs of CL semi finals were successful. Both Makkelie ans Brych did well.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, I hope it will continue like that tomorrow.
DeleteBy the way, congrats from Neymar to Brych after the game... After RC against PSG and YC AG Neymar. That tells the story completely. That is the acceptance you work for. Compliments!
ReplyDeleteIMO maybe one missed YC and 3 missed fouls in a challenging game. Rosetti got what he hoped for and Brych is now a strong candidate for the EURO final!
100% agreed
DeleteIn my opinion, superb refereeing by Felix Brych. It is a pleasure for me to see him referee. Complicated game, with a lot of tension, he has known how to adapt his style to the needs of the game. 8.5
ReplyDeleteIgnoring such blatant mobbing prior to De Bruyne's YC is ignoring the whole UEFA Referee Committee and Rosetti. UEFA RefCom were very clear throughout the season, demanding yellow cards for even slightest cases of mobbing and dissent. Now we have bunch of players almost killing Brych before he makes a decision and no card given. A very poor image of UEFA referee.
ReplyDeleteBut he wasn't ignoring it. He reacted strongly with a "go away" gesture and afterwards explicitly talked to Mbappe and some other players before letting the game continue.
DeleteBut yes, a YC there for dissent might have been adequate anyway.
Your comment is, sry, in my opinion just ridiculous. What ever you saw the last 2 hrs, it was an other game. I am really absolutely tired of reading those nonsens-comments being given only for political reasons to blame good refs in the hope that the favorite refs of the commentator g who is anonymous, logically - have better chances that way. If that continues it could really be a danger for this blog. PLEASE stop that. It makes no sense and you fail to reach what you want anyway
DeleteYour post Andrasch Neunert may make sense in general, but Anonymous 22:58 has a valid point with regard to this particular situation. Guidelines are more than clear on this behavior, and throughout the season highlighted over and over again by UEFA.
DeleteAndrasch, calm down. Even the biggest fan of Brych like you should be able to notice the obvious things. Can you explain what is ridiculous in my comment? I'm tired of clear fanboyism but didn't say a word about it, just posted my comment. And it's nothing political in paying attention to what UEFA pay attention to the whole season.
Delete@Anonymous 23:22
DeleteExactly. I saw many 'political' posts (against or pro certain referees) on this blog but I'm far from that. I just wanted to share my astonishment that such experienced referee deliberately decided to throw UEFA RefCom's CLEAR instructions to the dustbin. A first category referee would have lost many points by doing that.
I support a YC cause dissent here, too. But he never lost control and his clear communication cooled down the aggressions, so what? Good refs follow the needs of the game they are in charge of,first. Guidelines are guidelines, not the law of the game and a good ref is not a Roboter following them, esp. in such an important game where some minor aggressions come up without turning things into a big drama. With a more aggressive and authorative approach to the players you make the trouble only much bigger. Brych stayed cool, consequent, clear and RELAXED. That is his aura. Authority mixed with relaxed coolness. He sometimes might let the game flow a bit too long before showing cards, but hey, he can. Like Kuipers. Like Cakir. Like Mazic. Like the majority of the real top refs.
DeleteFor me Brych sets the example to amateur players that dissenting to the ref is ok cause even when you go to him like a bunch of hyenas nobody gets carded at all. And to me that is simply not the message one should give at a CL SF....
DeleteAndrasch, your last comment was excellent!!! And please,Anonimus 23:47, did you just compared amateur players and Refs with Semifinal of UCL and top referee like Brych is??? This shows how funny are your knowledge and understanding of top level refereing and refereing in general...but no problem, just continue with grassroots comments
Deletewhat a grassroots fanboyism... then according to your logic UEFA RefCom's instructions based on clips from UCL are also grassroots refereeing? you are funny, it seems arguments don't reach you
DeleteAnonymous 00.39. You clearly cant read my valid point because you only want to see how awesome herr doctor did yesterday. And indeed apart from his dealing with this scene he was good (for me 8.3/4ish) However the UCL SF and final is an example game for football players and kids on every level. When they see what i saw yesterday than they will be going to a referee like crazy when they are allowed to play again,dissenting all the time because "the players of PSG can too and wont get carded at all!" And the "greatest ref" just stands there takes all the shit and doesnt sanction even one player. What a great message to convey to the youth and amateur levels.... Im not impressed at all by Brychs dealing of it and it is a real pity because apart from this he was indeed (very) good.
DeleteAnother great display from Brych, the German has been really impressive, especially in game management, he looked always in control.
ReplyDeleteA tough 2H where he might have cautioned a few more players (one reckless tackle and dissents in the 80'-90' area), but all in all a clearly successful night for him.
I'd love to see Kuipers handle Euro final to reward an outstanding career, but with such consistent and regular performances from Brych, there is an obvious other reliable option for the job.
Brych was consistently impressive in 2020 and 2021. Still cannot believe that such a super referee could not reach higher in his two World Cups.
DeleteI'm actually a bit surprised about some comments. Of course, we can debate about one or two free-kicks (not) given. However, one cannot really compare today's match to the one yesterday. We have players like Neymar on the pitch who is always demanding for referees, it was a close and fast game and definitely more intense. I think we saw a clear line in terms of disciplinary control by Brych with an overall good foul detection.
ReplyDeleteWe can also discuss about the procedure leading to the RC for SFP and whether he should have given it earlier. He wanted to wait for some input by Stefan Lupp, you could clearly see that he was looking to him. I understand that considering it was a very important decision. Also, there were no negative consequences following the "late" RC, actually quite the contrary, I was surprised how few or even none protests Brych was confronted with.
If we consider the intense last 20 minutes, I am pleasantly surprised how accepted Brych was. I think he and his crew did a good job and I'm sure that Rosetti will be satisfied today.
The aura of Brych is something you cannot describe with words, simply amazing, such an authority and respect he exudes from players, an exceptional referee all around.
ReplyDeleteNowhere near Kuipers level
DeleteBrych is at the top of his form.
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ReplyDelete31' - correct YC (SPA / Tackle)
https://streamable.com/evl04y
32' - IFK for dangerous play? Then, IMO 60-40 SPA incident
https://streamable.com/7x9nil
41' - charge was too trifling, correct play on
https://streamable.com/bqzzsk
50' - missed freekick + YC, stamp
https://streamable.com/gl8prr
70' - correct YC, dissent
https://streamable.com/1imzpy
74' - borderline to VC! Agree with Brych, YC (no brutality)
https://streamable.com/u0jfy3
77' - the decision was better than the procedure :D correct RC, Brych kept positioned ahead of the attack, if he followed play closer then he would have seen the tackle better; did Fritz 'check the line' in between ref reaching for the YC and then RC call ;)
https://streamable.com/2o5n0s
87' - correct YC (reckless) not RC, Paris player(s) should be cautioned for mobbing; Brych surely remembers the guideline and warns in order to 'cover his arse' re. observer?
https://streamable.com/3t8ldg
+91' - two borderline careless challenges
https://streamable.com/b3v7kx
Are you sure 70' is dissent and not delaying the restart?
ReplyDeleteI was surprised by the strong opinions on the way Brych produced the RC last night.
ReplyDeleteIs it advisable for young, developing referees or referees struggling for acceptance in a heated game to copy this approach? Absolutely not. There is a real risk that 1) things will get more heated between the two teams or between the teams and referees (possibly leading to further cards) and 2) that the acceptance for the RC will be unnecessarily decreased by leaving the impression that the ref was bullied into giving it.
That being said, neither of that happened last night. Things remained calm from both sides and there were barely any protests after the card had been shown. Most likely this is down to Brych's authority, gained by his performance in the match so far and his presence in CL KO games for years. There should be nothing wrong with Brych being aware of his authority and using it to his advantage. If he uses it to buy time and make sure the right decision is reached, this is in the interested of the game IMO. Probably nobody outside refereeing blogs like this will care. I don't see why UEFA wouldn't be pleased with him.
I don t think, you can say that it s not advisable at all. If a ref has his own style and it s working, why not...
DeleteIf you are a ref with less charisma you should definitly be faster. But otherwise you can also calm down players with beeing calm by yourself, even when things are heaten up.
Fast decision-taking is always a question of how players trust you and your decisions.
If the ref knows about this and is able to use it, every way is right.
I also can not see how delayed cards, when they are shown in this way, can decrease the acceptance. Players recognize whether a ref decides because of other players or not. And this is fully independant from the time the ref takes to decide.
On the other hand, taking time shows in these cases that the decision is well thought and not an ill considered one
Brych, Kuipers, Cakir, and others might be role models...but there are first of all Von Karajan of refereeing. Not to copy but to be inspired by !!! They build different way of refereeing with their different personnality...but common point but not the least...their long lasting career at top level means something strong. We can disagree some points, some calls (OK for RC last night IMO), some tough moments (Brych at 14 and 18WC, Cakir) in their career...but the most difficult is not to reach a level (even if very tough way to) but to stay at this level.
ReplyDeleteOne can say after a game is easy for a 1/2F...but the ref also deserves what he got by his implication and his acceptance (Danny and Felix)...
So i think it's a very good thing to criticize performance (call, postures, find aera of improvment) but we have to respect these colleagues who achieved the very top level (very few of us achieved).
One can rank each of them differently for others...but we must treasure to have them...and after we will have new generations.
Agree, Anonymous.
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