Referee appointments at 2021 AFCON, Round of 16.
23/01/2022
Referee: Redouane Jiyed (Morocco)
Assistant Referee 1: Lahcen Azgaou (Morocco)
Assistant Referee 2: Mostafa Akarkad (Morocco)
Fourth Official: Ahmad Imtehaz Heeralall (Mauritius)
Video Assistant Referee: Adil Zourak (Morocco)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1 : Bouchra Karboubi (Morocco)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2 : Zakaria Brinsi (Morocco)
Referee: Maguette Ndiaye (Senegal)
Assistant Referee 1: El Hadji Malick Samba (Senegal)
Assistant Referee 2: Djibril Camara (Senegal)
Fourth Official: Issa Sy (Senegal)
Video Assistant Referee: Fernando Guerrero (Mexico)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1 : Dahane Beida (Mauritania)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2 : Fatiha Jermoumi (Morocco)
24/01/2022
Referee: Amin Mohamed Omar (Egypt)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahmoud Ahmed Kamel Abouelregal (Egypt)
Assistant Referee 2: Hossam Ahmed Taha Ibrahim (Egypt)
Fourth Official: Mohamed Marouf (Egypt)
Video Assistant Referee: Mahmoud Mohamed Ashour (Egypt)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1 : Ahmed El Ghandour (Egypt)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2 : Ibrahim Abdalla Mohammed (Sudan)
Referee: Bamlak Tessema (Ethiopia)
Assistant Referee 1: Arsenio Maringula (Mozambique)
Assistant Referee 2: Gilbert Cheriyot (Kenya)
Fourth Official: Bernard Camille (Seychelles)
Video Assistant Referee: Maguette Ndiaye (Senegal)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1 : Peter Waweru Kamaku (Kenya)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2 : Jerson Emiliano Dos Santos (Angola)
25/01/2022
Referee: Lahlou Benbraham (Algeria)
Assistant Referee 1: James Fredrick Emile (Seychelles)
Assistant Referee 2: Mahamadou Yahaya (Niger)
Fourth Official: Daniel Nii Laryea (Ghana)
Video Assistant Referee: Abid Charef Mehdi (Algeria)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1 : Mahmoud El Bana Zakaria Moustafa (Egypt)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2 : Khalil Hassani (Tunisia)
Referee: Pacifique Ndabihawenimana (Burundi)
Assistant Referee 1: Elvis Guy Noupue Nguengoue (Cameroon)
Assistant Referee 2: Seydou Tiama (Burkina Faso)
Fourth Official: Boubou Traore (Mali)
Video Assistant Referee: Haythem Guirat (Tunisia)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1 : Peter Waweru Kamaku (Kenya)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2 : Djibril Camara (Senegal)
26/01/2022
Referee: Jean Jacques Ndala Ngambo (DR Congo)
Assistant Referee 1: Oliver Safari Kabene (DR Congo)
Assistant Referee 2: Soulaiman Almaldine (Comoros)
Fourth Official: Helder Martins de Carvalho (Angola)
Video Assistant Referee: Bamlak Tessema (Ethiopia)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1 : Fernando Guerrero (Mexico)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2 : El Hadji Malick Samba (Senegal)
Referee: Gassama Bakary Papa (Gambia)
Assistant Referee 1: Jerson Emiliano Dos Santos (Angola)
Assistant Referee 2: Issa Yaya (Chad)
Fourth Official: Joshua Bondo (Botswana)
Video Assistant Referee: Adil Zourak (Morocco)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1 : Samir Guezzaz (Morocco)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2 : Zakhele Thusi Granville Siwela (South Africa)
Les 2 trios proposé pour la coupe du monde 2022
ReplyDeleteJayed avec ses assistants
Ndiaye avec ses assistants
Bon chances . Incha'e allah une belle performance
OT
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if anybody knows when a referee gets to know an international appointment in for example CL or EL.
I read somewhere that a week in advance, they firstly receive the date of the match without too much other details and only 2-3 days before the specific match and teams. Not sure how reliable the source is.
The source that reported you that was indeed reliable. True what you wrote: there isn't a specific time, but mostly assignments for CL and EL games are known even 2 weeks before the game, without further details, then later the referee is informed about the exact game, while the involved federation gets the information only about competition and day of the match. I also know that until a few years ago this was more ordinary, now there are more frequently appointments with less time before the game to inform referee.
DeleteChefren, where is that written that both yourself and Unknown OP stated? Thanks for the insight.
DeleteUnluckily I can't give you any written reference, I know that thank also to years and years of following UEFA refereeing. I could start talking about Frank De Bleeckere, when he was still active, he had his official website and he reported there the CL appointments, sometimes even more than two weeks before, of course without mentioning the game in public but just the competition and the day (or more generally the week in some cases). Then the fact that federations don't know the exact game was also clear to me when RFEF-CTA was used to post some PDF with the international appointments several years ago, in this case only competition and day were reported.
DeleteThis was the main reason for which in origin the CL and EL group stage assignments were split in three major sets, as you very likely know, MD1-2, MD3-4 and MD5-6.
Nowadays with so many replacements and more flexibility by committee, indeed something is changing but basically referees are always informed in due time for the games to which they are assigned.
I can confirm that, referees are informed at least two weeks before that they are appointed to the match and they know only date and competition. About seven days before match they are informed exactly on which match they are appointed. They also receive their travel plan and plane tickets seven days before the match.
DeleteThanks. Sounds logical that they are informed about the date at least 2 weeks before the game. In particular because refs often have a 2nd job besides refereeing.
DeletePacifique pour match :
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ReplyDeleteThe young Egyptian is to be reviewed. He could be a protagonist until the end of the tournament
DeleteHe looked good in CPV - BFA.
DeleteI don't share the impression he was so good as comments here may suggest. IMO he totally lacked in reaching players in any way and letting too many cynical fouls without reaction.
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Friends of the forum, prepare yourselves, in Italy extraordinary referees are growing, a new generation of young referees who will fill the Italian void of this period.
ReplyDeleteIt was about time! Who would you recommend as the most promising referees?
DeleteIts a shame that the void is not as big as it should have been. Considering the level of the italian refs now, not a single one of them should be in Elite IMO. Only Orsato is at that level at a good day...
DeleteIn my opinion a waste of time to see referees such as Pairetto and Fabbri with FIFA badge and Sozza still having to wait a year to get the nomination!
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ReplyDeleteDoes this mean that Ghorbal and his team are already on their way to CWC or shall we see him on another AFCON match?
DeleteI think that Ghorbal indeed has already left Cameroon, he has to prepare the Club World Cup, travelling to UAE, then all COVID stuff and checks, I also read that FIFA will have the referees there some days before the beginning of tournament to prepare it.
DeletePerhaps this explains why Ghorbal got 2 matched in matchday one of this tournament
DeleteGermany
ReplyDeleteThere are some discussions about this controversial incident from today's Bundesliga matchday:
SC Freiburg vs. VfB Stuttgart, handled by Tobias Stieler [VAR: Sven Jablonski]:
Penalty (tripping) given, withdrawn after OFR
https://streamable.com/mfiwwx
Your opinions are appreciated!
Penalty is at least supportable. To call a referee for an on-field review is ridiculous in my opinion, especially taking into account how unkeen to intervene are German VARs in general.
DeleteIMO there is enough here to support the referee's decision. Even if I disagree with the call because for me its the striker who simply runs into the defender, the defender's leg movement makes the call (very) soft, but not a clear and obvious mistake either.
DeleteBTW this incident reminds me a very similar one in Portugal-Spain (WC2018 GS), where Gianluca Rocchi whistled a PK, and VAR supported the call.
IMO very brave decision by the VAR. For me a clear simulation.
DeleteSure, there are enough VAR’s that would support the call of the referee because ‘there is contact’, however if you just ask yourselves: what caused the fall of the player (attacker putting his leg there on purpose) and especially ‘what wants football and its fans’, then its very hard to sell the PK. Imagine the poor ref trying to clarify his decision in front of a camera after the match? I really hope this is a new development.
I see very often Stieler involved in such situations, he also had simuilar cases in UEFA matches he officiated with rather very soft penalty.
DeleteMy opinion in this case is that defender makes a certain movement with leg, putting it where attacker is coming, but then most of the contact is made by attacker, who deliberately uses this chance to get penalty. The attacer is very clever and falls "thank" to that. However, I think wrong VAR intervention, the call by referee had to be supported, not a 100% demonstrable simulation.
Deniz Aytekin was on Sky Germany this morning (mainly to talk about the Zwayer situation). But he was also asked about the situation here. He said he spoke to Stieler; Stieler told him that he himself initiated the OFR as he wasn't sure about his initial penalty decision apparently.
DeleteThanks for this update, this would clearly explain why there was a VAR intervention, if called by Stieler absolutely correct procedure. To add, here in Italy referees are instructed that they should never do that. Calling VAR for rewatching a crucial situation leads to an extremely negative assessment, and for this reason it is never done.
DeleteOne question guys: why ARs in Premier League have different flags,? One totally yellow, while the other yellow and red.
ReplyDeleteThis was also discussed on the blog, looks like a particular habit of English officials, maybe somebody can add more.
DeleteEnglish referees always do that (like a habit/tradition), AR1 uses checkered flag and AR2 pure yellow, just to clarify who is the senior AR.
DeleteIt's just an English tradition so that AR1 (or the "senior AR" as it's known there) uses the checkered flag and the "junior AR" / AR2 uses solid yellow.
DeleteSome clips from Isidro Díaz de Mera Escuderos' performance yesterday in Atlético de Madrid - Valencia CF (VAR González González).
ReplyDeleteVery intense and epic match by probably one of the two most difficult teams (and managers, Simeone vs Bordalás) to handle in LaLiga, the score going from 1-2 in 90+1' to 3-2 in 90+4' and the o total of 12 YCs were given.
1) Missed (IMO) 2YC for VAL2 in 37' for this accidental but still reckless stamp on Joao Félix + both ATM22 & VAL20 booked for an off-camera scuffle: https://streamable.com/eqrf9z
2) Four reckless vs SFP incidents, all resolved with a YC. According to radio commentator and former FIFA referee Eduardo Iturralde González, 27' was a mandatory RC for SFP + missed VAR intervention (I personally disagree)
14' https://streamable.com/wvxtpv
27' https://streamable.com/mjiudb
43' https://streamable.com/3ravkf
65' https://streamable.com/mf44me
Other than that, no remarkable PK incidents, okayish foul detection with a room for improvement.
1) Should be a YC I think, especially in such an inflamed match.
Delete2) 27' The ATM player lunges into his opponent, the intensity is rather high and I don't think he is in full control of his tackle anymore, so he endangers the health of his opponent; rather a sending-off but I don't think it's clear enough for the VAR to intervene.
Otherwise, supportable cautions issued.
I agree that 37' should have been YC.
DeleteAbout the four incidents, all supportable YCs, the closest incident to RC is indeed the one in 27', but I disagree with Iturralde as well, not a 100% clear RC and so no VAR intervention seems OK. However, I would have like a RC issued on the pitch by referee.
37' I like no SYC here. It not being intentional is a consideration for me.
Delete27' Very Boderline for me. Maybe no VARint is okay, it depends on what was done in very similiar events before.
43' I think this situation is managable without a YC. The top of the foot makes contact with the arm. It is not going to hurt and the player heavily exaggerates the contact IMO. If RC given, I would want a VARint.
65' Good yellow card. Not a RC for me, would also like a VARint if RC is given (unlikely).
Thanks for the clips Quilava :)
all of them are supportable yellow cards. however, 27' is a very dangerous tackle and this is a orange card. but no var intervention is ok
DeleteCameroon vs Comoros
ReplyDeleteFourth Official: Bernard Camille (Seychelles)
These appointments are bias , because it's compromised....there's only one assistant from Nigeria and he has been on top of his game since the beginning of the AFCON and he's not in any of the round of 16 games....that's Africa for you
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ReplyDeleteIvory Coast Vs Egypt
Jean Jacques Ndala ( Congo )
Penalty given after OFR in CRY-LIV (Referee: Kevin Friend, VAR: Craig Pawson)
ReplyDeletehttps://mixture.gg/v/61ed783382c37
Wrong intervention in my opinion. Jota even makes a step to the right so he collides with the goalkeeper. This should never be a penalty.
DeleteRediculous penalty ...
DeleteFor me it's obvious that Jota deliberately moves to the keeper. The intervention of Pawson is confusing, while the final decision is far more puzzling.
Absolutely wrong VAR intervention, I share your opinions. If we don't want to say that attacker went deliberately against keeper, then that's no more than a normal collision, never foul by keeper. Sometimes I really don't understand English referees...
DeleteJust sometimes Chefren or all the time?
DeleteTwo situations from CHE-TOT
ReplyDelete19' - Possible RC for SFP - https://mixture.gg/v/61ed86f8e3255
41' - Disallowed goal for a push - https://mixture.gg/v/61ed8c8025221
I would be very interested in oppinions from frequent users here!
Delete19' RC for me. Not sure about VARint to be honest.
41' I thought it was a good spot by Tierney. It is very hard to say how much force there was in the push IMO. And of course the defender gladly accepts the push and goes down. IMO, it would have been more interesting to see if VAR intervened, if the push was not given initially by the referee.
19' - I think the best replay is missing here, don't know whether in the live sequence and during the game there was a more detailed and closer camera, however based on that it looks like a clear SFP with studs up. Basically I would say VAR intervention expected but I miss footage to analyze more.
Delete41' in my opinion the push has not any effect on defender, who falls down easily, for me better decision to allow the goal, however, once whistled from the pitch, absolutely OK, never a mistake, and David be sure VAR wouldn't have intervened in the opposite case, can you say that it was a clear foul? Never.
@Chefren: I think you can make a good case for a clear foul: Push in the back while running at considerable speed. The defender was the only one with a slight chance to defend the striker (cynical, high reward). Kane pushes exactly at the moment, the defender has to slow down, making it impossible. And lastly, a push is never a genuine action. Do you agree with the last sentence or do you think a bit of pushing is part of the game and maybe even a skill to use at the right time?
DeleteJiyed and Akarkad spoil a very good performance in a challenging game with a HUGE mistake at +93’, now into extra time :/
ReplyDeleteJiyed is about to break the record of yellow cards in a game, if he hasn't yet...
DeleteMore about this huge mistake? I see a very challenging game, based on the total of yellow cards, indeed.
DeleteThe highlight video I saw doesn't have anything from 90'+3', could you provide a clip?
Delete90+2:07
DeleteOffside decision, when the player might have been in his own half.
He could just have been on the line, but surely play should have continued to allow a VAR check in case of goal.
Thank you. Still troubles at AFCON with offsides in the own half.
DeleteI think this is a very interesting handball clip from BFA-GAB. The defender deliberately plays the ball with his foot, then it deflects off the opponent, then off the defender's chest, and then finally off his arm, which is extended. What do you guys think? Very complicated situation IMO.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/kzxxlh
IMO this should not be called a handball (deliberate play). I would even want a VARint if a PK is given.
DeleteVery easy situation in Italy because once you have a deliberate play by defender, we have this criterion, never punishable handball, because the reason is that a player would never deliberately kick the ball to committ then an handball. Here you have also further rebounds, would have been grey area even in case of deflection and not clear delberate play by defender before.
DeleteThis was exactly the point I was getting at, because while it is a deliberate play by the defender, we also have two deflections in between, including one where the attacker plays the ball. [This deflection vs deliberate instruction still exists here in the US too]
DeleteOn balance I agree with you guys here, no handball is probably the preferred decision based upon current instructions
I really don’t understand the Red card issued to Alex iwobi in Nigeria vs Tunisias game!!! This is an incident I support Mikael on outcome determining the sanction!!! Iwobi did not play in a dangerous way or even commit a serious foul play offense rather the Tunis player put his leg!! Well football is gone.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamja.com/1Ode2
DeleteHm, I don't really agree. Iwobi had lost the ball due to a bad touch and then completely misses the ball, when trying to recover it, while the Tunisian only tries to play the ball. And the resulting contact is quite dangerous.
DeleteMuch more RC than YC in my opinion.
I disagree with Chiagozie as well, there are strong arguments for a RC in this case.
DeleteI agree with Chiagozie up to a point, but I have to admit that I dont follow the tournament so I dont know VAR criteria. Comparing to some European leagues and tournaments, I dont see that this is clear enough for VAR to say that a YC is obviously wrong.
DeleteThis is a clear RC and I'm glad VAR intervened. In cases, where the offender shields the ball very late and there is dangerous contact, it should be RC9 IMO. WC2014 Marchisio got a RC for it (Chefren you may remember ;)) and at the WC 2018 Rebic should have gotten a RC aswell vs. Argentina(FIFA TV).
DeleteRC IMO
DeleteI have no word to say. Perfect example of RC from my opinion
DeleteThe kit colour choice in NGA-TUN is quite strange, isn't it?
ReplyDeleteNGA plays in a very dark grey (or green?) with the Tunisian GK in black.
And TUN plays in white with the Nigerian GK in a light grey.
Could have been easily avoided with NIG in white/green and TUN in red.
I am not sure, how complete the stats on worldfootball.net are for earlier tournaments, but according to them, BFA-GBN clearly is a new YC record for AFCON games with the previous one being 9 YCs "achieved" by Bennett in 2013 (TOG-TUN) and Sars in 2000 (EGY-TUN).
ReplyDeleteTo compare: The EURO record is 10 YCs by Elleray in 1996 (GER-CZE).
Very controversial decision in Napoli - Salernitana:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/l6gtxp
What do you think about a possible VAR intervention?
The only touch is just the hand on the body of opponent you can see in the last replay, no contact between legs, never a foul.
Very light foul, but also not a 100% mistake by the referee, so no VAR, according to laws pushing is not allowed, so i don't understand why VAR should be looking at it, the answer is simple!
DeleteFor me a VARint would have been good. Very light contact, I wouldn't even call it pushing. I think UEFA wants a YC for simulation (deceiving the ref)
Delete@Eric van Marwijk calling it push is definitely a brave action, that's the problem. For me it is nothing, there isn't any consequence with the hand touching body.
Delete@Chefren.....Iff you are a player.... then you must be very stupid to do such actions in penalty area... he on purpose take the risk.... the referee spot it'what's very unlucky for the player... but can you blame the referee? the only one to blame is the defender who takes such stupid risks....keep your hands where they belong, and the referee for sure doesn't give a penalty, now the defender gives him a chance and Pairetto takes it.....the defender is just a simple dumbass
DeleteMissed freekick and RC for DOGSO by M. Amin Omar (9’)?
ReplyDeleteMissed freekick: Yes
DeleteDOGSO: Rather doubtful, whether he would have reached the ball before the GK - and this might be the reason for no VAR intervention.
Do you have a video clip?
DeleteClip: https://streamja.com/qapJ2
DeleteI'm sure that CAF will be happy with Amin's performance, but how best can we sum it up in three words - ESR was right! :)
For sure missed foul and a very "important" one, but VAR would have backed YC as well, so correct no intervention.
DeleteHe ended up with two red cards. They might have been correct by the letter, but were they necessary in the context of the match?
Delete87' https://streamja.com/aX1EB
Delete90'+3 https://streamja.com/595oz
9' This is clearly not DOGSO IMO, very heavy touch from the striker directly to the GK.
DeleteStill nothing about 2022 FIFA Referees list?
ReplyDeleteStill nothing, that's even shocking from FIFA, if you ask me.
DeleteChefren, do you know the reason for such publishing delay?
DeleteNo, I'm sorry.
DeleteEarly OFR for a red card to a Comoros player. Didn't see much wrong in the challenge. A little harsh. Not a red card for me even after a OFR.
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DeleteStuds above the ankle with force. May be accidental, but that doesn't matter. I'm struggling to see how it can't be a red. He was miles from the ball too. And Tessema could not have seen the contact properly live, as I don't think he gave any card, which makes it easier to recommend the OFR
DeleteCorrect RC for me. The ball is not in a playable distance and the attacker doesn't make an unexpected movement, i.e. there are no exculpatory factors. And the contact itself looks very SFPish.
DeleteLook at his eyes. Not going for the ball. Made two attempts to deliberately step on opponent. Second one got him on Achilles. Easy red.
DeleteJust watched that red card again. I'm still not convinced it looks like an accidental coming together. Yellow definitely still in my opinion red was a little harsh.
DeleteIMO good VARint for SFP. Extremely clumsy but probably not on purpose.
DeleteDavid, with all due respect, it is a very clear red card. The mode of contact is the studs, and the point of the contact is the Achilles, which is very dangerous for that important ligament and can lead to very severe injuries. It's not glancing contact, there's quite a lot of the Comorian player's weight going through his leg there.
DeleteIt's not really relevant whether or not it was accidental. The challenge clearly endangers the safety of the opponent whether he meant it or not, and therefore must be punished with a red card.
IMO 100% red card
DeleteRC IMO too
DeleteRC is correctin my opinion, but I don`t like the pictures the VAR showed. It was nearly all about the one picture of the contact and slomows. I would like the VAR in general to show more the real speed of the videos.
DeleteI know this is about referees but the news are reporting a crush that happened in Cameroon vs Comoros. Thoughts are with those involved as igs reported that children are also involved as well.
ReplyDeleteDo you confirm that last week was held the FIFA seminar for UEFA WC 2022 perspective referees ? I never saw any news, neither, at least, if the all selected referees were there or somebody missed it.
ReplyDeleteReally no news ? no info ? neither on the main topics discussed?
I heard it was held, physical, but indeed, it's surprising that no one mentioned this.
DeleteI know I'm late but just saw it :D
ReplyDeletehttps://streamja.com/054b7
This is hilarious xD I think the referee took that one personally^^ Nothing for the guy who pushed, YC(UB) for theatrically falling.
DeleteOne thing I've really enjoyed about the refereeing in this tournament has been the very diverse stylistic approaches. From Escobar's rather aggressive even "physical" demeanor, to the modern appearances of e.g. Amin Omar, to the cordial/friendly style of Gomes, to however you want to describe Tessema's style! In UEFA or CONCACAF for example you only see referees who are pretty much the same prototype as one another within the confederation with only relatively small differences.
DeleteCAF is showing us that there is more than one way to do the job successfully!
Fully agree with you, smala017! I miss the diversity among UEFA top referees as well. They are like robots nowadays. That's why I like Mateu Lahoz so much.
DeleteBut to be clear, I was quite shocked to see such aggressive attitude by both referee and AR2. The game was rough from the beginning and some behaviours of the players (delaying the free kick execution by protests and mobbing, discussing with every single decision, etc.) could have annoyed the referee and I understand his/their emotions but you should avoid pushing and holding players ESPECIALLY in such circumstances.
DeleteRed card again.
ReplyDeleteBut different from yesterday, this one is very harsh, because the ball was played in a normal manner and the contact was only a bad accident.
DeleteCAF is becoming the strictest confederation, with at least a red card in every R16 match so far!
DeleteNow again RC, too strict IMO, head to head clash.
ReplyDeleteHow is possible that it is DOGSO?!
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ReplyDeleteCape Verde, not Comoros :)
DeleteOnly on AFCON.
DeleteRed Card Senegal - Cape Verde:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/8fz3go
The player was with foot on the ball then he slipped without intention into opponent's leg. The result by itself would be RC, but looking at all these similar decisions we can draw the conclusion that according to CAF no matter how it happened, just important to punish in all cases when such contact happens. It can (must?) be discussed...
Two terrible red card decisions by Benbraham that, of course, favour the big nations, just like we have seen numerous times in this tournament.
DeleteIn the tackle, the player plays the ball and only because the ball flattens and slips, his studs then touch the ankle. NEVER a RC after VAR (in real time I would have respected the decision, but not after seeing the side perspective on video).
About the head clash, everything has been said already...just ridiculous.
Trust me there is no favoring any big nation if not Nigeria would not have received a red card, it’s jus a ridiculous application from CAF referee committee which is making all matches look so ridiculous!!! It is irritating and no ref has issued a straight red card for any of this offenses but only after VAR and what does that suggest????
Delete@Questionmark: I think VAR did not show the best angle to the referee. At 32s in the video from Chefren, I think it is best visible that the ball has been trapped. Not sure if the ref could see that from the replays he was shown.
DeleteQuite an odd red card for the Cape Verde goalkeeper. Never seen one for a clash of heads.
ReplyDeleteOne can discuss, whether this is a foul or not.
DeleteBut it surely is not DOGSO (ball too far away) and to call this as a SFP also seems far-fetched. Of course, it is quite dangerous somehow - but then every header duel is.
I'm not really opposed to SFP here. It's certainly unorthodox, but the bottom line is that the keeper caused a very bad head-to-head collision; two hard skulls colliding at high speed. This challenge endangered the safety of the opponent, in my view.
DeleteI can't see this being DOGSO or SFP. Do we know for what the review has been initiated?
DeleteUnluckily, CAF doesn't communicate the reason of an OFR.
Delete3rd OFR. Referee reviews potential foul in the build-up to the 2nd goal but sticks with original decision. Correct in my opinion
ReplyDeleteIMHO not a clearly false decision to play on either.
DeleteWhy did VAR take 2 minutes to call him outside to look at it anyway?
My impression was, that they had already decided to allow the goal and to continue. Then the Cape Verdeans demanded that Benbraham watches the situation himself - and after some more time, he followed that request.
DeleteAnd yes, it is a possible foul, but not clear enough IMO. At least not from the angles, which were presented.
You wrote "second goal", but maybe you meant first goal, scored in 63'?
DeleteOtherwise the second was the one scored in last minutes.
I'm not watching the game, just to be sure to find clips. Thanks.
This is so embarassing for CAF. Lengthy VAR checks inconsistent application of laws. Poor game management. Calling for a stretcher when its a small injury. Camerawork all over place not helping the VAR
ReplyDeleteNow 1st YC, but not given advantage to Cape Verde.
ReplyDeleteLook like SK commentator has had enough oof this ref and called this decision "stupid"
I don't like using this type of words when it comes to referees, especially not on this blog, but this game has been a disaster for all involved. All three OFRs very questionable in my opinion
ReplyDeleteRC to keeper (couldn't find a better video, all geo blocked):
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/4mtjic
I think reason for VAR intervention was DOGSO.
Collision by head, very rare to see foul by head, but charging opponent with an obvious goal scoring opportunity would be reason.
To be honest, this simply isn't DOGSO to me. Likelihood of control of the ball is nowhere near obvious.
DeleteMaybe there is a case for SFP for the head-to-head collision, which might be an interesting discussion. But DOGSO is clearly wrong, to me.
@ smala017, I see your point and I agree with you. For me it's more like a error by the goal keeper when he tried to get the ball. But we can agree that this is a very dangerous foul so RC is reasonable
DeleteYeah the more I look at this challenge the more I'm struggling to find any argument *against* serious foul play here.
DeleteDOGSO RC for Cabo Verde GK after OFR: https://streamable.com/ak3lqr
ReplyDeleteIt’s as if CAF referees has seen a new toy in VAR and are just so eager to play with it!!!
ReplyDeleteLet's say it in better words, this can be a factor if compared to other nations and confederations that use VAR in all games: most of the referees, apart from Moroccan officials, if I'm not wrong, don't have it in their national leagues and this can be indeed an explanation for overusing it if the training was not enough for some of them.
Delete5 minutes with all that?!?!?
ReplyDeleteMan, these refs and football is so far away from Europe.
I just checked: Both long stoppages were longer on their own.
DeleteMore than 7 minutes around the RC and nearly 6 miuntes around the goal.
Incredibile, 13 minutes and the referee gives 5 minutes!
DeleteVery far away from UEFA standards, we must be honest, said with all respect but I can't disagree with M.
CAF officials have still many, many things to develop.
Who will be new head in Russia replacing Kassai?
ReplyDeletePereira is already there for a few months.
DeleteAm surprised about the comments regarding Senegal vs. Cape Verde - while Benbraham was weak as anyone who watched GHAGAB could have expected, Charef and his VMO team actually saved his a**s with all three interventions in my eyes.
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18' - https://send.cm/d/8Beq
-> It is a bit naive IMO to say that this is "accidental". When you challenge with such force against a player who is completely frontal to you, so much so that your studs are carried over the top of the ball, the impact is made on your opponent with all your body weight (CPV player's other leg is 100% off the ground), and your opponent's leg completely planted on the ground. The player overruns the ball, the classic red flag that an SFP is coming, and challenges with that force in a nothing area of the pitch. That's a cast iron case of SFP in my view, and almost definitely a deliberate attack by CPV no 7.
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53' - https://send.cm/d/8Bes
-> I would argue in favour of assessing this tackle as both SFP and DOGSO to be honest!
* DOGSO: Mané's touch is not a shot at goal, but a nod past the goalkeeper; if it was a clear shot at goal, then we could judge the offence as extraneous from SPA/DOGSO considerations, but that is not the case here; having rounded the goalkeeper, I'd say he has a pretty presentable chance to score there.
*SFP: Just because it is a head collision it does not automatically mean that an incident is somehow accidental; the keeper is late, a clear foul, and the amount of force he uses is quite ridiculous; he concusses both himself and his opponent.
- Benbraham crazily does not even give a foul(!) in the live sequence, and while we can pick some holes in both the SFP and DOGSO checklists, this is definitely a RC using 'Law 18', and an excellent intervention by Charef IMO.
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63' - https://send.cm/d/8Be
-> Philipp is right, this was clearly an OFR to calm the CPV players, which Benbraham needed to do after a poor MtG performance, so Charef was right here as well; you can criticise him for showing the ref poor angles, but I would guess that the Algerian VMO had nothing better (very amateur broadcasting by CAF throughout), probably.
The third link is wrong, can you fix it?
DeleteMeanwhile you fix the link:
Deletehttps://streamable.com/yyr7pz
Indeed, in my opinion OFR made to calm down Cape Verde players.
I think without protests, no OFR at all. Very likely OFR called by referee and not VAR.
@53'
DeleteDOGSO: Mane doesn't control the ball, therefore it's too speculative IMO, what would happen. Yes, it is possible, that he reaches the ball before the line, but then probably in a bad angle. So only a possible GSO, but not an obvious one.
SFP: Yes, there are arguments for it, but it would be highly unusual to call it (do you remember any example, where a RC-SFP was given for a header duel?). But OK, I would not want a VAR intervention, if the referees gives the RC himself with this justification.
Law 18: Here I completely disagree:
- Both players use an equal amount of force, so somehow both have a partial blame for the clash
- The GK's action is not brutal, but typical for the game
- The GK seemed to be more injured (could not continue, while Mane played some more minutes)
- The smaller team was already a man down (for an offence, that not everyone considers a RC)
So overall I don't think, that football expects and wants a sending-off here.
18' is a more standard situation and we will probably agree to disagree, but the arguments against RC are:
DeleteThe ball is free to play for both players (the fouling player even was in possession before), so they have every right to try to play the ball there. Then they do that in an actually very similiar manner (the fouled player even with a straighter leg), which doesn't look like excessive force to me, but just a normal way to play. Then the fouling player even gets the ball before his opponent (i.e. wins the duel). And then only because the ball is blocked, he slides over it and hits the opponent.
Overall I have the impression, that is was nearly random, who hits whom here, but both players acted in an acceptable manner, which doesn't deserve a RC IMO.
And yes, purely based on the LotG, they are endangering each others safety and should both be sent off... (same in 53')
But if we assessed duels literally on this point, there would be a lot of RCs - or a less physical game.
So I think, the excessive force aspect should also be taken as neccessary condition for SFP.
All clips can be downloaded here: https://fromsmash.com/CvmcNQixnb-bt
DeleteThanks for your views, Chefren and Philipp!
Missed clear Yc, Morocco player tries overhead kick, hits opponet near head, not even warning.
ReplyDeleteNdabihawenimana was explicitly praised for his performance by the German commentator. And he even said his name completely and correctly. ;)
ReplyDeleteHow do you even pronounce his last name? :)
DeleteSame for Ngambo today.
DeleteBrian Hall is stepping down as head of CONCACAF refereeing, Nicola Rizzoli takes over on an interim basis.
ReplyDeleteOoff, no more blind leniency in CONCACAF? Well, I'm not so sure with Rizzoli, the man who made art of closing both eyes in important games. But maybe it won't be so bold...
DeleteStepping down or fired? There are some suggestions that he was no longer wanted...
DeleteI didn't know anything about that. Already planning to leave Ukraine or both roles?
DeleteOk, now we read the first articles on Italian newspapers, he will keep his role in Ukraine as well and he asked Ukrainian federation for this special permission.
DeleteNdala Ngambo the best ref at Afcon.
ReplyDeleteOFR for overturn a penalty in Mali vs Guinea. Correct decision in overturning never a foul.
ReplyDelete74': Clear case of SFP underpunished, an awful stamp with excessive force. Much more a clear and obvious mistake than the penalty overturned IMO.
ReplyDeleteYes, especially compared to previous matches, a clear RC and VAR intervention.
DeleteAgree. Very clear SFP, missed RC and mandatory VAR intervention.
DeleteMali - Equatorial Guinea 40'
ReplyDeletePenalty annulled after VAR intervention:
https://streamable.com/ztef5a
And the mentioned incident in 74':
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Stopping the video at 00:25 you have the exact point of impact we saw in all the other incidents, but this time no VAR, despite of a direct challenge (no ball before).
No consistency at all there.
QF predictions
ReplyDeleteGAM-CMR: N'Diaye, Samba, Camara, Sy (all SEN) - Guirat (TUN), Waweru (KEN), Hassani (TUN)
BFA-TUN: Bamlak (ETH), Maringula (MOZ), Cheriyot (KEN), Escobar (GUA) - Ashour, El Ghandour (both EGY), Ibrahim (SDN)
EGY-MAR: Ghorbal, Etchiali, Gourari (all ALG), Camille (SEY) - Benbrahm, Charef (both ALG), Siwela (RSA)
SEN-EQG: Bondo (BOT), dos Santos (ANG), Emile (SEY), Ndabhihawenimana (BDI) - Karboubi (MAR), Guerrero (MEX), Brinsi (MAR)
Ghorbal a few days before CWC, do you think he is still in Cameroon?
DeleteI don't know, but as Ramos referees CAN-USA on the same day, I assumed, that the CWC officials travel to Abu Dhabi later.
DeleteMAR # EGY
DeleteGASSAMA
DJIBRIL CAMARA
JERSON DOS SANTOS
NDALA NGAMBO
VAR : GUERRERO GUIRAT HADJI MALIK SAMBA
Hm, that would be surprising, because the winner could play Gambia in the semifinal.
DeleteGhorbal cannot referee Egypt vs marocco because politicial relationship between Morocco and Algeria
ReplyDeleteCorrect. I wouldn't appoint a referee from a Maghreb country to Egypt-Morocco.
DeleteI wonder if Selmi's tournament is now over along the same lines. Tunisia team puts him out for the top half QFs, he (surely?) can't repeat Cameroon, and EGYMAR might be a bit politically sensitive. That being said, I recall Abdel-Fatah (EGY) handling WC06 decisive qualifier Tunisia vs. Morocco. If Selmi's tournament does end prematurely, that's a shame IMO; I liked his group stage performances.
DeleteNdabhihawenimqna will get another ko game ,opinions
ReplyDeleteThe big incidents from the Mali vs. Equatorial Guinea game reffed by Bakary Papa Gassama [VAR: Zourak].
ReplyDelete09' - https://send.cm/d/8Ef8
40' - https://send.cm/d/8Ef9
71' - https://send.cm/d/8EfB
74' - https://send.cm/d/8EfD
Whether Gassama was well-prepared for exactly what (Eq. Guinea) game he would face on this evening, and whether this was a technically satisfying MtG performance, might lead to somewhat different answers. However - the Gambian ref fulfilled the (not insignificant) brief and I'm sure CAF will be (very) satisfied. I guess he'll be ported directly to handle one of the semifinal games.
The wrong penalty is a significant mistake, in other occasions we saw soft contacts, this is definitely worse, not even a possible foul... add to that the lack of knowledge in the first game, despite of no problems, but still in my opinion the perception of Gassama is not the best. For CAF he is a strong name, but in my opinion his performances so far has been rather quite disappointing than the expected level and given that Gambia national team is still there, his tournament could be over.
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ReplyDeleteFinally :)
Deletesadok selmi (tunisia) EGY & MAROC
ReplyDeleteCan 2021 Cameroon qf predictions : Tunisia vs Burkina Faso bondo ( bot ) - Cameroon vs Gambia gomes ( south Africa ) - Senegal vs eqg ndala ( dr Congo ) - Egypt vs marocco Escobar ( Guatemala )
ReplyDeleteEscobar would be the very neutral solution for Egypt - Morocco clash, indeed, and I think also a very good appointment to close the tournament as guest for him.
ReplyDeleteYes, I was also considering him.
DeleteHowever I don't know, whether that's possible after Gassama not getting a KO stage at Gold Cup. Ramos and Al-Jassim both got the same, namely a SF in the 2019 exchange.
And there are also some other feasible CAF solutions like Bamlak, N'Diaye and Gomes.
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