2020-21 UEFA Europa League Group Stage Matchday 5 will be played on 3 December 2020. Please find below all the choices made by committe.
18:55 CET - Athens (Olympic Athletic Center of Athens "Spyros Louis")
AEK Athens FC (GRE) - SC Braga (POR) | Group G
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Ivaylo Stoyanov (BUL)
AEK Athens FC (GRE) - SC Braga (POR) | Group G
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Ivaylo Stoyanov (BUL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Adonis Procopiou (CYP)
18:55 CET - Zaporizhzhya (Zaporizhzhya City Stadium)
FC Zorya Luhansk (UKR) - Leicester City FC (ENG) | Group G
Referee: Espen Eskås (NOR)
Assistant Referee 1: Øystein Ytterland (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Isaak Elias Skjeseth Bashevkin (NOR)
Fourth Official: Rohit Saggi (NOR)
FC Zorya Luhansk (UKR) - Leicester City FC (ENG) | Group G
Referee: Espen Eskås (NOR)
Assistant Referee 1: Øystein Ytterland (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Isaak Elias Skjeseth Bashevkin (NOR)
Fourth Official: Rohit Saggi (NOR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Bos (NED)
18:55 CET - Villeneuve d'Ascq (Stade Pierre Mauroy)
LOSC Lille (FRA) - AC Sparta Praha (CZE)| Group H
Referee: Javier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Teodoro Sobrino Magán (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Fourth Official: Pablo González Fuertes (ESP)
LOSC Lille (FRA) - AC Sparta Praha (CZE)| Group H
Referee: Javier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Teodoro Sobrino Magán (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Fourth Official: Pablo González Fuertes (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Guy Goethals (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Roland Tis (BEL)
18:55 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
AC Milan (ITA) - Celtic FC (SCO) | Group H
Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoechea (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Iñigo Prieto López de Ceraín (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Jon Núñez Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Adrián Cordero Vega (ESP)
AC Milan (ITA) - Celtic FC (SCO) | Group H
Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoechea (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Iñigo Prieto López de Ceraín (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Jon Núñez Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Adrián Cordero Vega (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Kindle (LIE)
18:55 CET - Istanbul (İstanbul Başakşehir Fatih Terim Stadyumu)
Qarabağ FK (AZE) - Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) | Group I
Referee: Robert Hennessy (IRL)
Assistant Referee 1: Allen Lynch (IRL)
Assistant Referee 2: Emmet Dynan (IRL)
Fourth Official: Paul Mclaughlin (IRL)
Qarabağ FK (AZE) - Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) | Group I
Referee: Robert Hennessy (IRL)
Assistant Referee 1: Allen Lynch (IRL)
Assistant Referee 2: Emmet Dynan (IRL)
Fourth Official: Paul Mclaughlin (IRL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Dejan Filipović (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Octavian Goga (ROU)
18:55 CET - Sivas (Yeni 4 Eylül Stadyumu)
Sivasspor (TUR) - Villarreal CF (ESP) | Group I
Referee: Duje Strukan (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Goran Perica (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Alen Jakšić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Marin Vidulin (CRO)
Sivasspor (TUR) - Villarreal CF (ESP) | Group I
Referee: Duje Strukan (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Goran Perica (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Alen Jakšić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Marin Vidulin (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Sergiu Lisnic (MDA)
18:55 CET - Linz (Stadion der Stadt Linz)
LASK (AUT) - Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) | Group J
Referee: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Radosław Siejka (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Kupsik (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł Gil (POL)
LASK (AUT) - Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) | Group J
Referee: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Radosław Siejka (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Kupsik (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Rusmir Mrković (BIH)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)
18:55 CET - Deurne (Bosuil)
Royal Antwerp FC (BEL) - PFC Ludogorets 1945 (BUL) | Group J
Referee: Pavel Orel (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Petr Blažej (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Kamil Hajek (CZE)
Fourth Official: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
Royal Antwerp FC (BEL) - PFC Ludogorets 1945 (BUL) | Group J
Referee: Pavel Orel (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Petr Blažej (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Kamil Hajek (CZE)
Fourth Official: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nuno Castro (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Scott Struthers (SCO)
18:55 CET - Moscow (CSKA Arena)
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) - Wolfsberger AC (AUT) | Group K
Referee: Nikola Dabanović (MNE)
Assistant Referee 1: Milovan Đukić (MNE)
Assistant Referee 2: Vladan Todorović (MNE)
Fourth Official: Miloš Bošković (MNE)
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) - Wolfsberger AC (AUT) | Group K
Referee: Nikola Dabanović (MNE)
Assistant Referee 1: Milovan Đukić (MNE)
Assistant Referee 2: Vladan Todorović (MNE)
Fourth Official: Miloš Bošković (MNE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Edward Foley (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Siarhei Ilyich (BLR)
18:55 CET - Feyenoord (Stadion Feijenoord)
Feyenoord (NED) - GNK Dinamo (CRO) | Group K
Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Richard Cook (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Peter Bankes (ENG)
Feyenoord (NED) - GNK Dinamo (CRO) | Group K
Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Richard Cook (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Peter Bankes (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Antonio Damato (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Peadar Ryan (IRL)
18:55 CET - Gent (KAA Gent Stadium)
KAA Gent (BEL) - FC Slovan Liberec (CZE) | Group L
Referee: Kateryna Monzul (UKR)
Assistant Referee 1: Oleksandra Ardasheva (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Maryna Striletska (UKR)
Fourth Official: Denys Shurman (UKR)
KAA Gent (BEL) - FC Slovan Liberec (CZE) | Group L
Referee: Kateryna Monzul (UKR)
Assistant Referee 1: Oleksandra Ardasheva (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Maryna Striletska (UKR)
Fourth Official: Denys Shurman (UKR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alfredo Trentalange (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Lundström (FIN)
18:55 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
FK Crvena zvezda (SRB) - TSG 1899 Hoffenheim (GER) | Group L
Referee: Robert Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David Roome (SCO)
FK Crvena zvezda (SRB) - TSG 1899 Hoffenheim (GER) | Group L
Referee: Robert Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David Roome (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Fourth Official: Donald Robertson (SCO)
Fourth Official: Donald Robertson (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Thomas Einwaller (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Nikola Kostov (BUL)
21:00 CET - Cluj-Napoca (Stadionul Dr. Constantin Rădulescu)
CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU) - PFC CSKA Sofia (BUL) | Group A
Referee: Amaury Delerue (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Benjamin Pagès (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aurélien Drouet (FRA)
Fourth Official: Mikaël Lesage (FRA)
CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU) - PFC CSKA Sofia (BUL) | Group A
Referee: Amaury Delerue (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Benjamin Pagès (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aurélien Drouet (FRA)
Fourth Official: Mikaël Lesage (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Messner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Balász Makray (HUN)
21:00 CET - Rome (Stadio Olimpico)
AS Roma (ITA) - BSC Young Boys (SUI) | Group A
Referee: Fran Jović (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivica Modrić (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Hrvoje Radić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Mario Zebec (CRO)
AS Roma (ITA) - BSC Young Boys (SUI) | Group A
Referee: Fran Jović (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivica Modrić (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Hrvoje Radić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Mario Zebec (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Shmuel Shteif (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Joël Wolff (LUX)
21:00 CET - Molde (Molde Stadion)
Molde FK (NOR) - Dundalk FC (IRL) | Group B
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sören Storks (GER)
Molde FK (NOR) - Dundalk FC (IRL) | Group B
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sören Storks (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Are Habicht EST)
UEFA Delegate: Thibault De Gendt (BEL)
21:00 CET - Arsenal (Arsenal Stadium)
Arsenal FC (ENG) - SK Rapid Wien (AUT)| Group B
Referee: Radu Petrescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Radu Ghinguleac (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mihai Marica (ROU)
Fourth Official: Marcel Birsan (ROU)
Arsenal FC (ENG) - SK Rapid Wien (AUT)| Group B
Referee: Radu Petrescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Radu Ghinguleac (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mihai Marica (ROU)
Fourth Official: Marcel Birsan (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Myrsini Psarropoulou (GRE)
21:00 CET - Nice (Grand Stade de Nice)
OGC Nice (FRA) - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) | Group C
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Alberto Tegoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Giacomo Paganessi (ITA)
Fourth Official: Fabio Maresca (ITA)
OGC Nice (FRA) - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) | Group C
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Alberto Tegoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Giacomo Paganessi (ITA)
Fourth Official: Fabio Maresca (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jouni Hyytiä (FIN)
UEFA Delegate: José Guilherme Aguiar (POR)
21:00 CET - Prague (Eden Arena)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE) - Hapoel Beer-Sheva FC (ISR) | Group C
Referee: Tamás Bognár (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Balázs Szert (HUN)
Fourth Official: Ádám Farkas (HUN)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE) - Hapoel Beer-Sheva FC (ISR) | Group C
Referee: Tamás Bognár (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Balázs Szert (HUN)
Fourth Official: Ádám Farkas (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Goran Mihaljević (MNE)
UEFA Delegate: Alex Miescher (SUI)
21:00 CET - Glasgow (Ibrox Stadium)
Rangers FC (SCO) - Royal Standard de Liège (BEL) | Group D
Referee: Bojan Pandžić (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Max Robin Wilde (SWE)
Fourth Official: Adam Ladebäck (SWE)
Rangers FC (SCO) - Royal Standard de Liège (BEL) | Group D
Referee: Bojan Pandžić (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Max Robin Wilde (SWE)
Fourth Official: Adam Ladebäck (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marián Ružbarský (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Tompkins (ENG)
21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica))
SL Benfica (POR) - KKS Lech Poznań (POL) | Group D
SL Benfica (POR) - KKS Lech Poznań (POL) | Group D
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Domenico Messina (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Kremer (LUX)
21:00 CET - Granada (Estadio Municipal Nuevo Los Cármenes)
Granada CF (ESP) - PSV Eindhoven (NED) | Group E
Granada CF (ESP) - PSV Eindhoven (NED) | Group E
Referee: Roi Reinshreiber (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dvir Shimon (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: David Elias Biton (ISR)
Fourth Official: David Fuxman (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dvir Shimon (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: David Elias Biton (ISR)
Fourth Official: David Fuxman (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Orhan Erdemir (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Michel Schafroth (SUI)
21:00 CET - Nicosia (GSP)
Omonoia FC (CYP) - PAOK FC (GRE) | Group E
Referee: Craig Pawson (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Ian Hussin (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Omonoia FC (CYP) - PAOK FC (GRE) | Group E
Referee: Craig Pawson (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Ian Hussin (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Vitković (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Alojzije Šupraha CRO)
21:00 CET - San Sebastián (Estadio de Anoeta)
Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP) - HNK Rijeka (CRO) | Group F
Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP) - HNK Rijeka (CRO) | Group F
Referee: João Pinheiro (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Tiago José Pereira Costa (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Ribeiro (POR)
Fourth Official: Vítor Jorge Fernandes Ferreira (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Tiago José Pereira Costa (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Ribeiro (POR)
Fourth Official: Vítor Jorge Fernandes Ferreira (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Runavot (FRA)
21:00 CET - Alkmaar (AZ Stadion)
AZ Alkmaar (NED) - SSC Napoli (ITA) | Group F
Referee: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Guillaume Debart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Haquette (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
AZ Alkmaar (NED) - SSC Napoli (ITA) | Group F
Referee: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Guillaume Debart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Haquette (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: John Ward (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Michael O'Brien (ENG)
03/12/2020
ReplyDeleteOGC Nice - Bayer 04 Leverkusen
UEFA Europa League
AE Maurizio Mariani
AA1 Alberto Tegoni
AA2 Giacomo Paganessi
IV Fabio Maresca
source: https://www.aia-figc.it/dettaglio.asp?ID=17685
Thank you.
DeleteSo we can easily understand that Maresca just anticipated his trip to France for the replacement in Marseille, but this was already planned with Mariani (indeed originally they were appointed together for yesterday's game Genoa - Parma).
Eveyrthing is planned in the best possible way with appointments, as Genoa is the closest place to France among serie A cities.
this means that Maresca will go from Marseille to nice in 24 h . Good appointed for Mariani , he can improve on the pitch in an interesting match
DeleteSeems that Spanish referees are full appointed this MD, even De Burgos, after CL MD (as VAR) has now a EL GS. This could explain why Maresca was yesterday with Gil Manzano.
DeleteGreat observer for Monzul. Good sign I think?
ReplyDeleteOne could have expected Trentalange for Frappart before Monzul, given how UEFA is appointing them. For sure a very good signal for her in any case, I agree.
DeleteI’m curious to see if UEFA manages Monzul the same way as Frappart; they both brig similar experience from the women’s game having each reached the final of a WWC. (Of course, we can only speculate how UEFA has scored their performances so far).
DeleteMonzul’s path so far seems much more congruent to the traditional path than Frappart. Monzul, of course, has been refereeing in her nation’s top league for 4 years, as opposed to 1 in Frappart’s case, and only has EL matches to this point instead of CL. I wonder if Monzul will follow up with a dead-rubber CL match next week, assuming good performance this Thursday?
BTW I don't understand why UEFA doesn't reveal all appointments, as they are known from the morning and federations are allowed to publish them... as it was yesterday.
ReplyDeleteI can only think there are some technical problems.
UEFA website seems to be tested positive for COVID-19 but fortunately shows only rather mild symptoms since yesterday. We may be confident that it fully recovers within the next 10 days.
ReplyDeletePeter :D you are the best
ReplyDeleteThis is a bit frustrating really, and strange.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I suppose Bebek is not going to be appointed for this MD, as he is appointed in Croatian league tomorrow and on saturday. Probably we could se Jović getting a game this week.
You are so funny peter
ReplyDeleteCSKA - Wolfsberger AC
ReplyDeleteDabanović, Đukić, Todorović, Bošković
Source Montenegro football federation
Have UEFA tried turning it off and on again?
ReplyDeleteAppointments are out
ReplyDeleteDuje Strukan appointed for Sivasspor - Villareal, 2nd GS game for him, very promising for a 2nd category referee!
ReplyDeleteAlso Orel from Czechia has second game in UEL group stage. He is still 2nd category ref. Good appointment for him.
DeleteWell, there are two things I don´t understand: How Orel could be on the FIFA list and moreover near to the first category (he is one of the weakest Czech referees, my opinion is based on his performances in the Czech League) and why he has Polish fourth official and not Czech?
Deletelet's hope that he will be more concentrated than at the game in Osijek . Obvious penalty missed ... good luck to Strukan, it will be a demanding game
Deletedebut for Hennessy 29yo
ReplyDeleteVery good by UEFA for Delerue ! Firewall internationnal game for him
ReplyDeleteSiebert with Zwayer's assistants looks like a replacement. On the other hand EL for Siebert (and maybe CL for Zwayer next week) makes more sense IMO, because he already had 2 CL matches.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I wouldn't have expected a CL experienced referee for that match...
Siebert will also have a game on EL MD6 next thursday. Maybe this is an additional argument for the replacement theory?
DeleteIn that case, he replaced Zwayer due to health or performance issues?
DeleteI got the information, that he doesn't replace Zwayer, but another, non-German referee, who has been tested positive.
DeleteThen why exactly with both Zwayer's ARs?
DeleteWith De Burgos and Estrada, all FIFA referees from Spain are out in this matchday. In champions League Gil Manzano (De Burgos VAR), Del Cerro Grande (Cuadra as fourth, Martínez Munuera as VAR) and Mateu (Munuera Montero, Hernández and Sánchez)
ReplyDeleteWhat happened with Georgi Kabakov? He was in pole position for promotion to elite (I would even say he should've been promoted along with Kovacs - same experience, same path) and now he is treated like a normal first group ref?
ReplyDeleteIMO, UEFA should avoid appointing Pawson to Omonoia - PAOK.
ReplyDeletePawson was the referee of last year's CL match Ajax - PAOK. He awarded 3 penalties to Ajax and Paok fans were furious.
Now PAOK has a crucial match in Cyprus. IMO, the appointment is wrong.
You're right! Maybe they chose him because there is no crowd?
DeleteWere the decisions correct? I couldn’t care less what the fans think about them.
DeleteIMO, yes. All 3 penalties.
DeleteTo Quote Pierluigi Collina:
Delete"I always say if the referee gives three penalty kicks it's not a matter of being noticed or not, it's a matter of taking three correct decisions, giving three correct penalty kicks"
I'm actually really surprised that Jovanovic got another match after his performance in Feyenoord - Wolfsberger AC. I watched him in both Ajax - Lille last season in UCL and Netherlands - Mexico this season and it already occurred to me that he lacks some basic management skills and his foul detection is just horrible. Everytime a player goes to the ground he just simply whistles.
ReplyDeleteThen in the Feyenoord - Wolfsberger game he whistled two completely wrong penalty's and a very soft one. It was the worst performance of a UEFA referee I witnessed in a very long time. If a referee doesn't get suspended for the rest of the season for a game like that, then no referee should ever. For me, the guy just does not have what it takes, but I wonder about other opinions?
I agree. Feyenoord - Wolfsberg was a scandalous performance and in the friendly between the Netherlands and Mexico, the penalty he gave to the Mexicans wasn't even a foul and if you would argue about that, it was offside.
DeleteIn the Feyenoord game he didn't only whistle three ghost penalty's, he also failed to give a penalty to Feyenoord and missed a foul before the third goal of Wolfsberg.
DeleteI thought the whole scandal thing was really blown up. First PK 3' war correct. Second PK 12' was wrong. 60' Jovanovic should have given a foul on the GK before the goal, but it was not easy to spot and the GK initially doesn't really react to the impact. 63' the Feyenoord attacker went down early before the challenge (left leg), probably still a PK, an experienced ref would have evened things out, when the chance came. 65' Goalkeeper gets ball but bumps recklessly into the striker, PK supportable.
DeleteThe problem is of course that each and every important 50/50 situation (and there were a lot) went to one team. One can hardly deny that the referee’s decisions determined the end result to a great extent.
DeleteA scandal is a too rigorous term, I agree, but a referee on the doorstep of Elite can be expected to have handled this match in a better way. In my opinion the referee showed not to be ready for an Elite spot (yet).
To say scandal or ghost penaltys are so wrong. 2 out of 3 penaltys were correct IMO. Only second one was DIVE and wrong.
DeleteEven Zwayer is making much more mistakes as ELIatE in important matchs but still get rewarded so dont say it was terrible.
Relax and be objective. You can't treat referees like they're disposable goods.
Delete@ Anonymous 11:45
DeleteI would be more ready to say that he deserved a CL game than the comment you wrote. 2 out of 3 penalties were correct, to make statements about "a scandalous performance" is merely a fake news in this case.
Anonymous 11:45 here (still need to figure out how to put a nickname on here). Maybe it's indeed a bit harsh to judge a ref on 1 match, although I have to disagree about the 2 out of 3 correct penalties, but it's merely a pattern of games in which he was really unconvincing for me. But maybe the game in Lisbon will be a chance to get back on the right track.
DeleteCherry picking. I think that except the 2nd PK (in which if there's a contact it happened outside) all decisions in FEY-WOL are correct or supportable. For example, he had a good performance in Real Madrid-Shakhtar.
DeleteJovic and his team have been delegated for the match in Rome, certainly one of the proofs that they consider him one of the most promising referees whose time for big matches is coming. Great respect for the Croatian four
ReplyDeleteAccording to all the above, this season he is the best Croatian football referee, so it is not surprising that a large number of matches in Europe have been awarded to him.
DeleteI think that both Jovic and Strukan are quite good referees!
DeleteI agree, Jovic making big steps forward this season, and that is us absolutely justified.
ReplyDeleteItaly Serie A
ReplyDeleteMatchweek 10
Saturday 5th December
15:00 Spezia - Lazio
Daniele Chiffi - Damiano Di Iorio - Oreste Muto - Antonio Di Martino
[Davide Massa - Sergio Ranghetti]
18:00 Juventus - Torino
Daniele Orsato - Ciro Carbone - Alessandro Giallatini - Marco Di Bello
[Paolo Mazzoleni - Giacomo Paganessi]
20:45 Inter - Bologna
Paolo Valeri - Fabiano Preti - Marco Bresmes - Maurizio Mariani
[Massimiliano Irrati - Alessandro Lo Cicero]
Sunday 6th December
12:30 Hellas Verona - Cagliari
Gianluca Manganiello - Rodolfo Di Vuolo - Alessandro Cipressa - Simone Sozza
[Fabrizio Pasqua - Valentino Fiorito]
15:00 Parma - Benevento
Juan Luca Sacchi - Pasquale De Meo - Fabio Schirru - Giacomo Camplone
[Michael Fabbri - Filippo Valeriani]
15:00 Roma - Sassuolo
Fabio Maresca - Filippo Meli - Orlando Pagnotta - Antonio Giua
[Marco Guida - Salvatore Longo]
15:00 Udinese - Atalanta
Federico La Penna - Vito Mastrodonato - Pasquale Capaldo - Lorenzo Maggioni
[Rosario Abisso - Alessio Tolfo]
18:00 Crotone - Napoli
Livio Marinelli - Alessandro Costanzo - Luigi Rossi - Luca Massimi
[Luigi Nasca - Stefano Del Giovane]
20:45 Sampdoria - Milan
Gianpaolo Calvarese - Mauro Vivenzi - Stefano Liberti - Gianluca Aureliano
[Aleandro Di Paolo - Luca Mondin]
Monday 7th December
20:45 Fiorentina - Genoa
Daniele Doveri - Giorgio Peretti - Valerio Vecchi - Antonio Rapuano
[Luca Banti - Dario Cecconi]
I will be very surprised if Orsato does referee Juventus v Torino on Saturday, he was so very off-form at Manchester, I thought he looked ill and looked as if he has not fully recovered from the illness he was reported to have on this site and looked disoriantated, going to the wrong side of the pitch initially for the VAR screen and spending less than 2 seconds to review a possible red card incident. I as a former FIFA referee rate Orsato highly, but something was very wrong with him on Wednesday.
DeleteAre you Bob Valentine? :)
DeleteNo,I'm much younger than him
DeleteSánchez Martínez is back after injury, he will referee Sevilla-Real Madrid on Saturday.
ReplyDeleteSo possible UCL debut on MD6
DeleteItaly Serie B
ReplyDeleteMatchweek 10
Friday 4th December
21:00 Ascoli - Pescara
Lorenzo Illuzzi - Mauro Galetto - Gianluca Sechi - Ivan Robilotta
Saturday 5th December
14:00 Cremonese - Virtus Entella
Alberto Santoro - Stefano Alassio - Andrea Zingarelli - Daniel Amabile
14:00 Frosinone - Chievo Verona
Piero Giacomelli - Francesco Fiore - Gaetano Massara - Matteo Marchetti
14:00 Lecce - Venezia
Eugenio Abbattista - Michele Lombardi - Filippo Bercigli - Davide Ghersini
14:00 Salernitana - Cittadella
Alessandro Prontera - Mattia Scarpa - Luigi Lanotte - Valerio Marini
14:00 Spal - Pisa
Riccardo Ros - Davide Miele - Marco Della Croce - Francesco Meraviglia
15:30 Reggina - Brescia
Francesco Fourneau - Marcello Rossi - Gabriele Nuzzi - Ivano Pezzuto
Sunday 6th December
15:00 Reggiana - Monza
Matteo Gariglio - Valerio Colarossi - Enrico Caliari - Marco Ricci
21:00 LR Vicenza - Cosenza
Marco Piccinini - Vittorio Di Gioia - Alessio Saccenti - Marco Serra
Monday 7th December
21:00 Pordenone - Empoli
Luca Pairetto - Robert Avalos - Michele Grossi - Giovanni Ayroldi
England Premier League
ReplyDeleteMatchweek 11
Saturday 5th December
13:30 Burnley - Everton
Anthony Taylor - Gary Beswick - James Mainwaring - Chris Kavanagh
[Mike Dean - Peter Kirkup]
16:00 Manchester City - Fulham
Jonathan Moss - Marc Perry - Dan Robathan - Darren Bond
[Graham Scott - Matthew Wilkes]
18:30 West Ham United - Manchester United
Andre Marriner - Simon Long - Eddie Smart - Andy Madley
[Lee Mason - Adrian Holmes]
21:00 Chelsea - Leeds
Kevin Friend - Simon Beck - Scott Ledger - Simon Hooper
[Michael Oliver - Sian Massey-Ellis]
Sunday 6th December
13:00 West Bromwich - Crystal Palace
Paul Tierney - Ian Hussin - Harry Lennard - Darren England
[Michael Oliver - Simon Bennett]
15:15 Sheffield - Leicester
Stuart Attwell - Stuart Burt - Neil Davies - Peter Bankes
[David Coote - Nick Hopton]
17:30 Tottenham - Arsenal
Martin Atkinson - Adam Nunn - Constantine Hatzidakis - Andre Marriner
[Chris Kavanagh - Dan Cook]
20:15 Liverpool - Wolves
Craig Pawson - Lee Betts - Richard West - Andy Madley
[Jonathan Moss - Dan Robathan]
Monday 7th December
21:00 Brighton - Southampton
David Coote - Dan Cook - Nick Hopton - Graham Scott
[Peter Bankes - Stephen Child]
Aston Villa - Newcastle has been postponed
OT
ReplyDeleteIrfan Peljto (BIH) will handle the Athens derby on Sunday between AEK and Panathinaikos. His assistants are brisimbegovic, and Macic. VAR will be Ruperti (NED).
Are there more Dutch offcials appointed this weekend in the Greece Super League?
DeleteNo. This is the only match with foreign officials.
DeleteSoares Dias will be VAR in the match between Famalicao and Sporting next Sunday.
ReplyDeleteTiago Martins, Hugo Miguel, Luis Godinho, Rui Licinio with games also on Saturday
Possible missed penalty by Monzul at about 7:35
ReplyDeleteDefender played the ball, normal contact, but she is struggling with authority
DeleteI agree she is struggling with authority.
DeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteThe appointment you posted, Kubbie92, for the discretion of involved officials, must stay as confidential until next Tuesday. That's why I deleted your comment.
DeleteYou should be happy when you get information, not delete it. Any social media in the world would be happy to have information before it is officially released. This is the role of the independent media.
DeleteWhat did Kubbies92 write?
DeleteI couldn't read it but probably an appointment for EL MD6, referees involved may already know the appointment but IIRC they can't tell anyone.
Delete@Anonymous we are not a site that wants to makes scoop.
DeleteWe are here to support referees. He posted a private appointment from his national association and I can't take the responsibility to allow that.
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DeleteBecause of the situation in relation to Covid the referees (and their domestic associations) get to know their appointments sooner than usual, but CL and EL appointments should be kept strictly confidential until two days before the match. National associations releasing appointments before MD-2 jeopardize these appointments. Referees concerned are at risk of being replaced. So completely understandable that Chefren intervened and deleted the comment, to prevent the refereeing team being harmed.
DeleteOfficials in UEFA matches are informed about their appointments at least two weeks before match
DeleteInteresting! This means that UEFA appointed md6 earlier, without knowing the outcome of todays matches?
DeleteSuperstar0110 is incorrect if he talks about the specified appointments. He may be correct if he means that the referees are informed about being appointed for a match on a particular MD about two weeks before (not the exact match though).
DeleteIt seems that this blog is a referees' association style, where referees' interests are above the readers' interest in getting information rather than an independent social media where information is freely posted. Thank you for clarifying that, so we know what info to expect.
DeleteApart from the sole character trait of curiosity, what is the reader’s interest in knowing appointments earlier than 2 days before a match?
DeleteWhy should leaking information be encouraged or applauded?
Anonymous, no, I'm not incorrect. I know on which match my friend is appointed next week on MD6. Believe me, officials know that in advance.
DeleteThen your friend will surely confirm that the early communication of appointments is unusual and due to the Covid-situation. Yes, officials know before the official publication, but no, as early as two weeks before is not usual.
DeleteBut indeed, MD6 appointments were already done before knowing the results of MD5.
That you for your good judgement, Chefren. To those who want the appointment to stay: just because this is a blog we *could* use to share that information does not mean that we *should* or that it would be ethical to do so. In this case where it could compromise the medical privacy of the referees, I agree it is best to not publish these appointments.
DeleteWhat do you think of Kavanagh's penalty? Really, really soft IMO
ReplyDeleteI've only seen the replay during HT but it looked like play on would've been a better decision
DeleteGood advantage by Orel in Ludogorets goal.
ReplyDeleteExcellent cooperation in Kavanagh game to allow a goal scored, at first wrongly disallowed. Attacker on the line of the goal but not punishable offside.
ReplyDeleteThe previous penalty he whistled was indeed very soft.
We will miss those kind of talks with VAR! :D
DeleteCorrect 2YC for SPA3 in Lille.
ReplyDeleteInteresting situation for Monzul and her team 77th minute looks like a player who was supposed to start got injured was pulled from the starting 11 and wasn't put on the bench as an eligible sub so his entrance to the game was disallowed
ReplyDeleteExcellent and correct decision by ref Monzul. Please refer to Art. 38.05.a of the UEL Competition Regulations 2020-2021.
DeleteAfter the validated match sheets have been submitted no changes are allowed. Before the match has kicked off, the following exceptions are possible:
If any of the 11 players indicated on the match sheet as forming the starting 11 are not able to start the match due to physical incapacity, they may only be replaced by any of the substitutes listed on the initial match sheet. The substitute (s) in question may then only be replaced by a registered player (players) not listed on the initial match sheet, so that the quota of substitutes is not reduced. During the match, three (as of the group stage: five) players may still be substituted.
I think few officials would know how to deal with that.
I think this is not very good work from the fourth official. The player should never have been let onto the field by the 4th official in the first place.
DeleteCorrect handball penalty by Raczkowski (already in 45+1')
ReplyDeleteA very good game by Raczkowski. Both penalties correct, also all YC correct. Very good body language
DeleteUnfortunately he missed two free kickis in the lead up to that penalty in 45min from Tanganga
DeleteClear view 🤔
Madden missed stonewall second YC for Hoffenheim player in 82-83’. Big mistake.
ReplyDeleteHm, but the attack wasn't actually stopped, so the SPA doesn't realize.
DeleteOh come on! Player was fully aware what he did. And the advantage was rather wrong - the play should be stopped and second YC given. The attack continued for almost 3 minutes - by the foul the prommising attack was stopped.
DeleteCorrect 2ndYC by Orel in 90' (reckless sliding tackle).
ReplyDeleteMonzul is starting too lose all control of the game right at the end
ReplyDeleteSorry but a mess
DeleteDefinitely terrible end for Kateryna Monzul... totally lost control and she didn't know what to do. She was too nervous and I feel really sorry, I think she was not still ready for such a game.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree. I think at least a player from each side should've seen red
DeleteI am sorry, she is not ready for EL. These mistakes are not seen in regional league. And no authority? Wow...
DeleteMaybe she missed RC. And not one at the end. But it's too much.
ReplyDeleteShe didn't lose contol as for me, the players did it.
During the game she worked very good!
ReplyDeleteFor sure if I think back to yesterday's Frappart game, sometimes it can be exclusively players fault: if they want to disrespect referee they can do everything to achieve that. Frappart appointment had a big echo on media, not the same for Monzul. This has played a clear role.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think? I hope I'm clear in what I'm saying.
I felt really sorry watching the end of the game in Belgium...
I agree with you about Frappart.
DeleteToday player's behaviour was terrible at the end.
At one moment she was ready to give RC/RC's, but stopped.
Difficult to take right decision in such situation without VAR.
I think if we had VAR in the group stage Monzul would've reduced both sides to 10 the behavior of the players was unacceptable.
DeleteI also think a couple of players could've seen RC for continuous dissent
Possibly missed penalty for Leverkusen by Mariani (5'):
ReplyDeleteIMO reckless sliding tackle after the ball was played away.
On a theoretical level, it is SFP in my view! Very dangerous tackle. Practically, penalty + YC would be the best solution probably.
DeleteReminds me of a situation on an old RAP (2015:2), PSV - Wolfsburg with Eriksson if I'm not mistaken.
Mariani just totally missed the situation, as it seems both teams did too.
Video? Of both situations please.
DeleteIn my opinion if UEFA wants to focus in Ukrainian referee they should focus on Balakin instead of Monzul, the few times I watched him I thought that he's a quite talented referee. He was expected to make his EL GS debut this season in Feyenoord-Wolfsberger but his ARs tested positive and had to be replaced by Jovanovic.
ReplyDeleteHe makes too much mistakes in Ukraine. Lucci doesn't trust him.
DeleteWhich mistakes?
DeleteHe was punished last season as I remember two times for a big mistakes.
DeleteAnd now in Ukraine only one choise for big games Monzul. (Sometimes Romanov).
Cezorrr,
Deleteit is not true. Luciano trusts him ...
Here: https://streamja.com/grddB
ReplyDeleteHandball by attacker wrongly assesed as a penalty by Pineiro. Then 2 minutes of strong protests (but mostly polite) of Rijeka players, intensive communication of the whole refereing team and in the end a correct decision. Honestly, I think it was based on intuition and not because the AR saw it well.
Also earlier offside tight offside call on the centre line, possible 1 on 1 situation, very hard to tell for sure.
Well, correct decision at the end but a mess due to a poor handball decision.
DeleteAlso, which was the correct restart, DFK for Rijeka or dropped ball?
If referee had whistled penalty, then annulled, play had to be resumed by dropped ball. Hopefully we will have the full sequence of the incident. At first glance, I think that indeed it was possible to make a mistake with both players jumping close each other.
DeleteIf I remember well, there was indeed a dropped ball.
DeleteIt was a challenging situation because the handball was so obvious, but with both players with hands in the air jumping it could have been difficult for the referee to see who played the ball.
thankfully, Pinheiro reversed the decision. My congratulations to Pinheiro's team for demonstrating that it is still possible to refereing well even without VAR technology. In the end everything went well, for now!
DeleteChefren, if referee had whisled penalty, then annulled because it is NO FOUL recognize, then play to be resume by dropped ball for the goalkeeper in the penalty area but, if referee had recognized with consulting referee team (AR's & FO) it is deliberate handball committed by the attacker, the game must be resumed by a DFK and a YC for the attacker.
Delete@RPC, well done, very good explanation, finally someone using common sense when commenting
DeleteRPC is correct.
DeleteWhy a YC?
DeleteCorrect penalty by Buquet in Alkmaar.
ReplyDeletePinheiro is a weak referee...
ReplyDeleteI totally disagree. A game does not define a referee! Pinheiro played excellent games last season in the Youth League and Saudi Arabia.
DeleteIn addition, he was the second best ranked by the arbitration committee in Portugal, just behind Soares Dias.
I believe it will have its place in UEFA Group 1 soon.
I don't think that Lahoz, Orsato or Kuipers have played only excellent games in their entire career.
But ... These are opinions
In Portuguese league he makes mistakes in almost every important matches.
DeleteFor example?
DeleteHandball penalty by Pandzic (45') given with some delay and therefore probably due to input from the 4th official.
ReplyDeleteIMO a grey area decision: Yes, the arm increases the body surface, but in a natural way (part of his motion) and ball comes from a short distance. I would prefer no penalty, but don't think it can be seen as a mistake.
Fourth official? Should be a very interesting situation if fourth official spotted a penalty :)
DeleteWould be the only explanation for me. And he had the right angle - but of course ca. 40 metres away.
Delete100% correct call IMO!
DeleteGreat intervention by non-FIFA referee Adam Ladeback.
DeleteSwedish fourth officials are normally involved in penalty area assessments if they have the best view
DeleteWhat happened in Monzul game?
ReplyDeleteShe lost complete control of the game allowed way to much dissent by both sides
DeleteAnd that is happening when you appoint someone who is not experienced enough to deal with that kind of games and you don't allow them to build up normal path for referee from the bottom to the top. It's nice thing to do something different but not this way. If UEFA give to the girls the chance to start in group 3 or even group2 and build up experience, this wouldn't have happened! But obviously it's more important to do something different than something right!
DeleteTo be fair, Anonymous, Monzul’s path seems more “normal” so far than Frappart’s. Monzul has been in the top league in her country for 4 years, and UEFA has given her a Nations League D game and one Europa League game... correct me if I’m wrong but that doesn’t feel like an abnormally fast path, it seems normal enough. I cannot speak to the quality of her performances in Ukraine (having not watched her outside of the WWC) but theoretically this appointment doesn’t seem too unusual. Compared to Frappart, who debuted in the Champions League just a year after her Ligue 1 debut, which is a much faster track than any other UEFA referee I’m aware of.
DeleteAre you aware how many youth games, qualifying matches and other games some male refefees need to officiate to be in a position to have a UEL group stage debut? As many readers said, it's discriminatory to other male referees. If you want to officiate male competitions, I think you should build your path in male categories. Thats my opinion, and opinion of many others
DeleteMariani nice style, good foul detection, but crucial mistakes. Missed PK 7‘ wrong disallowed goal AR2 24‘
ReplyDeleteOffside missed before Alkmaar equalizer!
ReplyDeleteTo be honest without a clear replay / VAR technology, I would support Buquet AR2 here. Also, 0-1 by Napoli close to offside but onside...
DeleteDo you have any evidence for this statement? In all replays I’ve seen one cannot be sure about a possible offside position. Personally I think the French assistant made the right call to allow the goal. It’s about centimeters for sure.
DeleteNapoli-Real Sociedad will need an Elite referee I think
ReplyDeleteMy guess is that it'll be the best Elite ref not working CL next week, but maybe a Cat1 who is on the cusp of being promoted to Elite (e.g. Ekberg or Stieler).
DeleteHas anyone watched Roma-YB? From what I see in replays, 2 very good onside calls before first 2 goals, and a correct RC for VC.
ReplyDeleteNormal calls, expected. RC for obvious crazy violent conduct
DeleteAnyone see how Pawson did?
ReplyDeleteAny clips from Monzul's match?
Pawson did good I watched the game.
DeleteIf u have cbs all access it provides all the games and highlights. I don't know how to upload
on ourmatch.me there are most highlights
DeleteJovanovic did good job tonight. Correct decision not to whistle a penalty for Benfica (after easy holding by Lech's defender in his own penalty area) at first half and good advantage before 3rd goal.
ReplyDelete2 possible penalties for Granada not whistled by Reinshreiber, quite interesting situations.
ReplyDeleteCan you provide the minutes?
Delete56 and 79
DeleteSorry for amateur quality and way of uploading, but here you go:
Deletehttps://streamja.com/P3zwk
https://streamja.com/NNKdB
1. Right decision
Delete2. Supportable, but a penalty is maybe the better decision
1) For me, no pk can be justified because the attacker was in sliding tackle and wasnt try to run past the gk. But I dont see it as a foul by the attacker, it is a risk that any gk takes when trying to intercept.
Delete2)Careless and risky by the defender, it looks like a penalty.
Refereeing Highlights: Srđan Jovanović in SL Benfica v KKS Lech Poznań
ReplyDeletehttps://ok.ru/video/2477754157676
14' - penalty incident: holding
37' - bad injury, should the foul be punished?
58' - good advantage prior to goal
72' - reckless or SFP?
apart from the above mentioned incidents, some communication flaws (02', 35', 42'), good advantages in 34' and 58' and missed advantage in 43' (was the handball call correct at all?)
What specific communication flaws did you spot?
DeleteYou can see in highlights :)
Delete02' - YC shown with significant delay, situation close to 4OF
35' - AR2 indicates a goal kick but REF correctly gives a corner kick
42' - nobody knows who should execute a throw-in
02' A lot of top referees giving YC (or RC) with delay,no? If the ref didn't think it's a YC and the 4th thought, they may have to communicate before making a decision.
Delete35' What is the best way to handle it here? Assistant to wait a bit before making a decision? Very good from ref.
42' Here the ref and the assistant haven't seen it clearly. I don't mind that, it's natural not not see everything. Would you just 'bluff' in this situation and guess?
Did Monzul lose control? After having watched it, I would say Yes she did. I would also say that the way the players acted was disgraceful. They behaved like children, so I don't think we can be too harsh on the referee. Lessons to be learned? For sure. For example, when Liberec were wasting time by playing the ball short in the corner she needed to be closer so her presence was felt and she could react quicker. But this match is no reason for Monzul not to be appointed again in the future. Just my opinion.
ReplyDeleteMilan - Celtic offside call by AR2, referee didn't cooperate to detect that it had been a touch by opponent. Mistake that shouldn't happen at this level:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/ke0kuv
Does anyone have clips from Mariani penalty incident and 24' disallowed goal? Does anyone have clips from Monzul's final part of the game?
ReplyDeleteIf not, do you know how I can watch highlights?
I'm trying to download some games, expect some videos maybe later today.
Deleteourmatch.me is good
Deletehttps://ourmatch.me/03-12-2020-sivasspor-vs-villarreal/
ReplyDelete1.55 Might be offside before Villareal goal.
https://ourmatch.me/03-12-2020-qarabag-fk-vs-maccabi-tel-aviv/
ReplyDelete2.10 - very harsh penalty from Hennesey. I don't think this is a penalty at all.
Is there an offside before Qarabag's goal (4.05)?
DeleteInteresting. Uefa doesn't want a PK there. There were very clear charges (Lovren vs. James, F13, UEFA RAP2020-1) in the last RAP that were not deemed a PK, which would be a foul everywhere else on the field.
DeleteVery soft, soft penalty, I would say never penalty
DeleteMissed red by Madden near the end. Don’t think you can fault him AR has to help. Scottish officials poor again.
ReplyDeleteHere the possible penalty in Nice - Bayer Leverkusen, minute 5':
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/eyxg2b
Indeed I agree with the analysis made above by Philipp and Mikael, I think that Mariani missed the incident, he was looking at ball and he didn't perceive that player had hit opponent in a (at least) reckless manner. Having played ball despite of the foul is often used as argument for playing on, but in this case the challenge is too evident.
Most interesting point for discussion is: would VAR have intervened?
To follow later the offside call by AR2.
And, as promised, the wrong offside call by AR2.
Deletehttps://streamable.com/fn98yi
I must say surprising mistake by Paganessi, NO FIFA assistant referee, but among the most experienced, he got a derogation for this season (he had to retire at the end of last year).
He also made a mistake corrected by VAR in previous serie A game Torino - Sampdoria before the EL assignment...
Thank you. Paganessi is NO FIFA but he is among the best ARs in Serie A in the last few seasons. I remember no mistakes by him for dozens of matches, and two excellent onside calls on Milan-Inter derby in February 2020.
DeleteIMO According to recent interpretation of the LoTG, that would be a penalty. However, it is not that kind of penalty people like, because the tackle occurs after the ball has been kicked. Very difficult to see live by the referee, and maybe it was better not to whistle it... no protests by players
DeleteThe offside is quite a big mistake. It was not difficult to call.
I think, VAR would have intervened, if it was indeed a missed incident.
DeleteIf Mariani saw it and assessed it as no penalty (because the ball was already played), I am not so sure.
87' is also interesting: IMO wrong offside decision (deliberate play by the defender, i.e. referee should have helped AR) denying a possible (not mandatory IMO) penalty for Leverkusen.
Leverkusen was quite unhappy with the referee and media wrote, that on the one hand VAR is missing in EL group stage, but on the other hand one should also expect a better refereeing performance on this level and by a referee from a top league.
I think is penalty, defender was late and doesnt play a ball at all, VAR must intervened.
DeleteAbout offside-reason is wrong positioning of AR
https://streamable.com/qecpb8
DeleteThats the scene from Mariani
Thanks for this video, I should have downloaded the match again to do that!
DeleteAt the moment of last touch by attacker (shot), second 12 of the video (00:12) teammate can be even in regular position, or at least one can't be sure about offside (look at defender below). I don't think it is too much question about deliberate pass or not (and one can discuss) but I think rather situation was very difficult for assistant referee and maybe he missed the moment when to assess the offside, thinking that the subsequent touches had been made by an attacker... this incident seems to be impossible to assess 100% correctly without VAR.
Hm, but Mariani could have told him that the last pass came deliberately from a defender. Then everything else (including the very tight position at the shot) becomes irrelevant,because it can't be offside anyway. This would not have been too difficult, I think.
DeleteOf course this is only true, if you agree with me that the pass was deliberate.
I think we are entering an era where there is an over-reliance on VAR. That incident should ALWAYS be assessed correctly by a referee-AR duo in a match with comms (so all professional matches).
DeleteThe ball has deflected off the chest of the defender and then is played by the foot of another defender. If a professional AR is flagging there, it's because he doesn't recognize who that last touch came from, as Chefren says. But the referee clearly sees it. If you are the referee in that match, you MUST ask the AR what he saw and why he's flagging because you know who had the last touch.
Sorry, but that's poor from AR (ignoring questions about offside position) and even poorer from the referee. Good teamwork gets this right 100% of the time. VAR should not be necessary to fix a call like this.
Hm, I don’t think referee can be really blamed here. Let’s consider the attacker in an offside position (and I’m not sure about that). The guidelines given by UEFA say that it is a deflection when ‘the ball moves towards the player’ and it is not the contrary (here there are both situations, but the defenders run towards his goal, not in the direction of the ball), when ‘a player finds the ball coming against him’ (this is the case) and in case of ‘an instinctive attempt to play’. In addition, we know from uefa that it is considered a deflection when a player ‘has not enough time to play the ball’ and ‘has to find balance first’. In my opinion, even if we have a double touch here, this is without a doubt a deflection, after the save of the first defender.
DeleteI don't see actually a deliberate playing. It's more a try to avoid it. At least a supportable decision.
DeleteVery surprised by the reaction here. It's the second defensive touch. The ball has now gone in three different directions, two of those caused by the defense. How many "non-deliberate" plays do we allow befere the (alleged) offside is no longer punishable. This isn't pinball. It's football.
DeleteWould people allow three, four, or five deflections and still punish offside? There's a point where you have to start thinking about the Spirit of Law 11 and not just interpret the text like robots. This is not supposed to be offside.
Are there any clips or highlights of what occured in Monzul's match?
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