2023/24 European Qualifiers, first set of referee appointments for MD7, games to be played on 12 October.
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| Rade Obrenović (SVN) will referee Latvia - Armenia |
18:00 CET - Riga (Skonto Stadions)
LATVIA - ARMENIA | Group D
Referee: Rade Obrenović (SVN)
LATVIA - ARMENIA | Group D
Referee: Rade Obrenović (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Grega Kordež (SVN)
Fourth Official: Martin Matoša (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Grega Kordež (SVN)
Fourth Official: Martin Matoša (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Nejc Kajtazović (SVN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alen Borošak (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Vignir Már Þormóðsson (ISL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Vignir Már Þormóðsson (ISL)
20:45 CET - Seville (La Cartuja de Sevilla)
SPAIN - SCOTLAND | Group A
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
SPAIN - SCOTLAND | Group A
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Erwin E. J. Zeinstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Johan Balder (NED)
Fourth Official: Marc Nagtegaal (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Johan Balder (NED)
Fourth Official: Marc Nagtegaal (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Fernand Meese (BEL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Fernand Meese (BEL)
20:45 CET - Larnaca (AEK Arena)
CYPRUS - NORWAY | Group A
Referee: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Orestas Abramavičius (LTU)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Hugo Miguel (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Meßner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Markku Lehtola (FIN)
CYPRUS - NORWAY | Group A
Referee: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Orestas Abramavičius (LTU)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Hugo Miguel (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Meßner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Markku Lehtola (FIN)
20:45 CET - Osijek (NK Osijek Arena)
CROATIA - TURKEY | Group D
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Michael Salisbury (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: John Brooks (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Itchko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: Milovan Đukanović (MNE)
CROATIA - TURKEY | Group D
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Michael Salisbury (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: John Brooks (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Itchko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: Milovan Đukanović (MNE)
20:45 CET - Tirana (Arena Kombëtare)
ALBANIA - CZECH REPUBLIC | Group E
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan De Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Alex Bos (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jeroen Manschot (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lucilio Cardoso Cortez Batista (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Balázs Makray (HUN)
ALBANIA - CZECH REPUBLIC | Group E
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan De Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Alex Bos (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jeroen Manschot (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lucilio Cardoso Cortez Batista (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Balázs Makray (HUN)
20:45 CET - Tórshavn (Tórsvøllur)
FAROE ISLANDS - POLAND | Group E
Referee: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Rogier Honig (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Patrick Inia (NED)
Fourth Official: Jannick Van Der Laan (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Erwin Blank (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Patrick Dempsey (IRL)
FAROE ISLANDS - POLAND | Group E
Referee: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Rogier Honig (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Patrick Inia (NED)
Fourth Official: Jannick Van Der Laan (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Erwin Blank (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Patrick Dempsey (IRL)
20:45 CET - Tel Aviv (Bloomfield Stadium)
ISRAEL - SWITZERLAND | Group I
Match Postponed
ISRAEL - SWITZERLAND | Group I
Match Postponed
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
20:45 CET - Andorra La Vella (Estadi Nacional)
ANDORRA - KOSOVO | Group I
Referee: Nicholas Walsh (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Calum Spence (SCO)
Fourth Official: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Andrew Dallas (SCO)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Donald Robertson (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Fredy Fautrel (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Radenko Mijatović (SVN)
ANDORRA - KOSOVO | Group I
Referee: Nicholas Walsh (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Calum Spence (SCO)
Fourth Official: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Andrew Dallas (SCO)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Donald Robertson (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Fredy Fautrel (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Radenko Mijatović (SVN)
20:45 CET - Budapest (Ferenc Szusza Stadion)
BELARUS - ROMANIA | Group I
Referee: Espen Eskås (NOR)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Erik Engan (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Isaak Elias Bashevkin (NOR)
Fourth Official: Kristoffer Hagenes (NOR)
Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Edgar Steinborn (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Alpaslan Kavas (TUR)
BELARUS - ROMANIA | Group I
Referee: Espen Eskås (NOR)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Erik Engan (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Isaak Elias Bashevkin (NOR)
Fourth Official: Kristoffer Hagenes (NOR)
Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Edgar Steinborn (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Alpaslan Kavas (TUR)
Rosetti (ITA) was initially announced as the observer in Spain vs Scotland, but the UEFA site removed him. So, either Rosetti is tied up or Gozubuyuk is a replacement.
ReplyDeleteThe latter is possible, because so far Gozubuyuk and Makkelie have rotated each qualification round.
How do we estimate Gozubuyuk’s EURO 2024 chances? Who are his main contenders?
Thanks for the info. It is interesting but indeed we can only make speculations. We can't know whether Rosetti couldn't attend for some reasons or they changed the full appointment, waiting for a new observer for Gozubuyuk. I think that, given the moment of the Dutch, having Rosetti as observer would have been possible. The reason is the one you mentioned, nevertheless, I really think that the Dutch needs time and one must wait before understanding whether he did or not a certain step above from the, let's say, low Elite to the, at least, Middle Elite Category. Signals seem to be good so far.
DeleteThere will be surely other contenders, so, apart from important observations, he has to continue on his path.
I doubt with his chance (2 spots for NED), because his main contenders for me are stronger than him, but the background not support them, e.g. Peljto, Nyberg, Kruzliak (maybe debatable this name). IMO unfortunately despite Zeinstra on there, I really doubt Gozubuyuk chances. If we look at 2020 formation, there were iinm 19 referees teams (18 UEFA + 1 CONMEBOL), IMO, guaranteed their spot (by order):
Delete1. Orsato
2. Marciniak
3. Taylor
4. Dias
5. Kovacs
6. Turpin
7. Vincic
8. Makkelie
9. Oliver
10. Gil Manzano
11. German #1
12. Letexier
13. Nyberg
6 spot left (by order)
14. GER #2
15. CONMEBOL (Sampaio)
16. Jovanovic/Peljto
17. Kruzliak/Meler/Grinfeeld
18. Cat. 1/Women referee (IMO surely not Frappart), only as support/get 1 game and go home like Ekberg.
19. ITA/NED/ESP #2
Unfortunately for Hategan and Schaerer (injured), same with Marciniak in 2020.
To add, surely three Dutch in a day are very particular and indeed this can be a signal that the Dutch crew in Spain is a full replacement, but again, we can't know. Still, the game suits to a name like Gozubuyuk if you ass me.
DeleteTrue, the game suits Gozubuyuk, it’s a nice test but at the same time both teams are expected to qualify. I expect Gozubuyuk to have some important observers in upcoming months cause he’s a borderline name for EURO. Three Dutch on day is quite exceptional though. If they made a replacement, it should be Serdar
DeleteAll matches involving a team that needs to win to keep their direct qualification chances playing at the home of an already eliminated nation are given to U21 EURO attendees (Rumsas, Obrenovič, Eskås, Lindhout)
ReplyDeleteNetherlands france Umut Meler Türkiye
ReplyDeleteMakkelie for sure has the hardest match on the paper.
ReplyDeleteBoth teams in contention to go through hostile crowd and teams that play phisycal and sometimes dirty football.
Taylor and Gozubuyuk get european giants,but teams that play fair so I expect no problems for them.
And once again Makkelie sent to Balkan, I don’t know why always Makkelie :)
ReplyDeleteIt makes sense. Gozubuyuk is a better runner, Makkelie is the better manager.
DeleteThree Dutch referees in a day, I think this one never happened.
ReplyDeleteHaving already said above about Gozubuyuk, we can underline that Makkelie is very often paired to such teams from Balkans (Albania, Kosovo, North Macedonia...). The games can be very challenging.
As for the rest, good remarks by Quilava about U21 referees, and I would say regular assignments for Walsh and Taylor respectively. The English, despite having lost the old form (one must be honest) is still highly regarded by UEFA.
Important update: Polish observer Mikulski has been sent to Spain - Scotland now with Gozubuyuk, he was originally appointed in Israel.
ReplyDeleteThis COULD mean (but we can't be sure, still speculation) that Gozubuyuk was originally planned to Israel, then maybe changed to Spain because postponed game in Israel.
And maybe Rosetti with another referee in Spain, now removed.
Ekberg was with Mikulski for Israel game, Gozubuyk with Rosetti Spain - Scotland, I think they change it, because of game Mikulski canceled
ReplyDeleteNybergg
DeleteHow many VAR's go to EURO Germany?, How many support refs ?, my list:
ReplyDelete1: Oliver
2: Taylor
3: Manzano
4: Turpin
5: Zwayer
6: Orsato
7: Marciniakk
8: Kovacs
9: Vincic
10: Diaz
11: Makkelie
12: Gozubyukk
13: Nyberg
14: Letexier
15: Sanchesz??
16: Massa???
17: Jovanovic,
18: Scharer??, Meler??
19: ref from Brazil
VAR: Irrattii, Boekel, Atwelll, Brisard, Dankert, Dingert, Valeri, Hernandez, Which var you think go?
For VAR, I think, the following should be relatively safe options:
DeleteKwiatkowski, Martinez, Irrati, van Boekel, Dankert, Fritz, Valeri, Higler, Brisard, Attwell, Martins.
Also Hernandez, if not working in another role.
For more country variety, Bebek and Kajtazovic also look likely.
If more VARs should be selected, it could either be further names from the big leagues (e.g. Dingert, di Bello) or further countries represented (e.g. San, Popa, Stoyanov).
For EURO 2024, I think the following names are 90-100% in:
ReplyDelete1. Orsato, 2. Marciniak, 3. Turpin, 4. Taylor, 5. Makkelie, 6. Gil Manzano, 7, Zwayer, 8. Vincic, 9. Oliver, 10. Kovacs.
11. Letexier is in good form, and normally a sure name. Main question is, do they want Frappart as well? Three French referees would be exceptional.
12. Nyberg ->> If Ekberg was invited as a Cat.1, I don’t see how Nyberg can miss this Euro
13. CONMEBOL
14. Female referee. But who? Can they invite 3 French? Or will they send Letexier to CONMEBOL and the Olympics as a compensation…
Other names:
14. Indeed very likely it will be a battle between Jovanovic and Peljto, given their political backgrounds
15. Meler, given his Turkish background, I think he will be in as well, if his form is decent
16-17-18:
Gozubuyuk, Kruzliak, Massa, Sanchez Martinez, Grinfeeld, Schärer (the latter needs to be back soon in order to make it)
*Letexier / Sanchez / Massa are good names for a CONMEBOL exchange
Sure, there always will be a surprise name, as one of the fixed Top 10 names can be injured, out of form, etc
Zeinstra is not in Team Gozubuyuk to miss the EURO. Mark my words.
Deletethe zeinstra in team gozubuyuK comment is a very sensible sUggestIon. for a very ProbablE ReaSon obviously :)
DeleteDid Björn put Zeinstra in Gözübüyük team?
DeleteMy early EURO prediction:
ReplyDelete'Locked' names unless injury or external problem: Orsato, Makkelie, Turpin, Marciniak, Kovács, Oliver, Taylor, Gil Manzano, Zwayer, Vinčič, the CONMEBOL exchange referee.
Probable names: Nyberg, Letexier, Meler.
Borderline, leaning IN: Sánchez Martínez, Gozubuyuk, Peljto, Soares Dias, Schärer (if recovered)
Borderline, leaning OUT: Massa, Kruzliak, Grinfeld, Jovanović, Siebert
Almost dead on arrival: Collum, Kulbakov, Sidiropoulos, Hernández Hernández, Stieler, Bastien.
My two cents for support referees: Rumsas, Obrenovič, Eskås, Krogh, Gishamer, Strukan.
On the other hand, I'm skeptic there will be a female central referee at EURO.
They could just put Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (who is very good btw) in Gil Manzano or Sánchez Martínez team and that's it. Frappart is complicated due to Letexier's rise and development in the last few months that makes him a huge candidate (three French referees?), the rest of options (Monzul, Martincic) would be a joke.
Regarding female officials, FIFA already had the scoop last year, so UEFA can decide to focus on quality.. On the other hand, there is a glaring shortage of female officials. And in one way it would be a surprise if Frappart isn't there at all, because she really is a Refcom favorite. I wouldn't be surprised by 3 French officials though. And otherwise, 1-2 ladies as support referees (again)..
DeleteVery good analysis Quivala, so let me share here my ideas:
DeleteLocked names to me 14 (unless injury or terrible future mistakes/problems): Soares Dias, Gil Manzano, Turpin, Letexier, Oliver, Taylor, Nyberg, Makkelie, Marciniak, Zwayer, Orsato, Vincic, Kovacs + 1 Comnebol (Tello or Sampaio)
Missing 4 referees
Borderline with high probability: Massa, Sanchez Martinez, Jovanovic, Peljto, Siebert
Borderline need outstanding performances since today to February 24: Kruzliak, Meler, Guzubuyuk, Grinfled
Almost dead on arrival: Collum, Koulbakov, Sidiropolus, Stieler, Bastien, Karasev
Injured: Hategan, Sharer, who can be used as expert VAR like as Hernandez Hernandez
Fourth Officials: Eksas, Obrenovic, Walsh, Rumsas, Jablonski (or Osmer), Lambrecht (or Visser), Aghayev, Strukan
Agree with you on the fact that Frappart is definetively below with Turpin and Letexier and three frenchs are really unexpected
@Quilava
DeleteI love your categories names :D
Also I agree about the referees mostly, except "probable names" that Im not sure have more chances than borderline leaning IN.
A support official choice that IMO would still be a joke but not far-fetched would be Ferrieri Caputi, specially if Massa misses out as main referee.
DeleteDefinitely a nice summary by Quilava, I would change / discuss about the following: based on appointmentss Nyberg is a lock and, as somebody wrote, after Ekberg as Category 1 call for 2020 (2021), it would be absurd to see Nyberg out.
DeleteAlso, I can't see Letexier and Umut Meler on a similar level. The French is clearly ahead, on a similar level like Nyberg, but maybe slightly behind the Swedish, nevertheless I'm convinced he can manage it (but for him the "problem" will be being a referee from the same nation of a top one).
Umut Meler in my opinion at moment could be called as fourth official, he showed good performances but only in very recent times, until a few months ago, committee still treated him like a "newbie" Elite. Nevertheless, if they want to accelerate the process, this is clear, he can be called. But in reality his situation is still different to me.
Soares Dias reputation is very difficult to read, I wrote about that already in past, now this injury complicated a bit the things, on paper he can get even top games, but differently from other Elite referees, you don't get what is the path of the Portuguese for some reasons (sometime very poor performances). Nevertheless, I think that basically UEFA could call him.
I would put Peljto by far ahead, and clearly to be considered before Umut Meler, just to make one name.
Siebert seems to be definitely out at moment, Zwayer nr. 1 and maybe this will be enough. I would put the chances of Siebert and Stieler even on a similar level at moment, in case of second German called...
Jovanovic lost a bit of credit in recent times, Sanchez Martinez gained a certain good reputation by committee, but still in doubt (would be second Spanish). The Slovaniak Kruzliak made many efforts to return back, but still if we look at reality something would be still missing for a major call.
Finally, just wanted to spend some words about Massa: I have the idea that committee doesn't like him too much. He gets regular assignments as Elite, but he is not seen like a name that can become a 100% trusted. The presence of Orsato is clearly a big problem for him, and maybe all his hopes are about WC 2026. Nevertheless, after having attended EURO 2020 as reserve referee, a call would be expected, but in case, the management of the Italian by committee wouldn't give such signal to us, at least so far...
Crazy to think that Dias, after UCL semifinal could miss the Euro. Altough not impossible, for example Kovacs was only 4th official in Qatar and Siebert, who was behind him in terms of European experience was main referee.
DeleteUnder current circumstances, Nyberg and Sanchez Martinez will have their spot at Euro 2024.
DeleteI have a slightly different order of likelihood regarding some names mentioned by Chefren.
Delete1) Letexier and Soares Dias after their last CL KO stage
2) Meler (good last season & big federation)
3) Nyberg (big game on MD1, but no CL or EL(!) KO stage and in general little experience - therefore behind the other three IMO)
4) Jovanovic (relatively experienced and a few bad games shouldn't overrule his qualities) and Peljto ( similar to Nyberg, but seems slightly behind - also from a smaller country)
5) Sanchez Martinez and Massa (IMO, they need to be clearly better than other candidates to be selected as second from their country instead of someone from an additional country - and I don't see that yet)
Kruzliak is hard to evaluate. One could see him on a similar level to Jovanovic (actually more experienced), but quite unclear, how UEFA rates him at the moment.
You seem to forget Nyberg's recent FIFA U20WC final that was followed by top UEFA appointments and more to come.
DeleteNice to see 3 dutch referee teams on 1 day! Good appointments.
ReplyDeleteFrappart has the friendly between England men and Australia men this Friday at Wembley.
ReplyDeleteOT:
ReplyDeleteIf you commented this situation,then sorry for bothering,but I just wanted to ask you what are your thoughts about cancelled Barca's goal that created lot of controversy?
Again is Grado main ref,and like vs Getafe,Barca claim that they were massively harmed.
Friendly
ReplyDeleteENGLAND - AUSTRALIA
R: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
AR1: Mikael Berchebru (FRA)
AR2: Aurélien Drouet (FRA)
FO: Hakim Ben El Hadj (FRA)
VAR: Mathieu Vernice (FRA)
AVAR: Nicolas Rainville (FRA)
Source: English FA.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2023/oct/09/stephanie-frappart-appointed-by-fa-to-referee-england-v-australia-20230910
We can observe a media change in the treatment of friendly games, it seems that nowadays they mostly look like big assignments, even more in such a case, if a woman is involved. Reading presentations like "The first woman to officiate a Men's International Friendly at Wembley" show us how much emphasis there is on this fact, just because the first time for a woman in a friendly in that stadium should count as record. But, in reality, we are just talking about a friendly game, so the minimum level for an Elite referee. I must admit that this way of presenting such assignments has created more appeal even for the same officials involved and it seems they are going to officiate World Cup final or something like that! All this can be good for some reasons, because you have the perfect perception that you want from fans about a certain referee, but at the same time I think we shouldn't lose the contact with reality, there are absolutely more important games and friendlies remain as very low level for top referees, just putting on display.
DeleteI think Gil Manzano would be a more logical choice for the Croatia - Türkiye match.
ReplyDeleteMy Early Euro 2024 Referee Appointments:
ReplyDeleteReferees:
- Anthony Taylor (ENG)
- Artur Soares Dias (POR)
- Clément Turpin (FRA)
- Daniele Orsato (ITA)
- Danny Makkelie (NED)
- Felix Zwayer (GER)
- François Letexier (FRA)
- Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
- Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
- Irfan Peljto (BIH)
- István Kovacs (ROU)
- Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
- José María Sánchez Martínez (ESP)
- Michael Oliver (ENG)
- Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
- Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
- Srđan Jovanović (SRB)
- Szymon Marciniak (POL)
- CONMEBOL REFEREE
ASSISTANT REFEREES:
- Gary Beswick (ENG)
- Adam Nunn (ENG)
- Paulo Soares (POR)
- Pedro Ribeiro (POR)
- Nicolas Danos (FRA)
- Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
- Ciro Carbone (ITA)
- Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
- Hessel Steegstra (NED)
- Jan de Vries (NED)
- Stefan Lupp (GER)
- Eduard Beitinger (GER)
- Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
- Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
- Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
- Andreas Söderqvist (SWE)
- Mustafa Eyisoy (TUR)
- Kerem Ersoy (TUR)
- Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
- Davor Beljo (BIH)
- Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
- Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
- Diego Barbero (ESP)
- Ángel Nevado (ESP)
- Raúl Cabañero (ESP)
- Iñigo Prieto (ESP)
- Stuart Burt (ENG)
- Daniel Cook (ENG)
- Erwin Zeinstra (NED)
- Johan Balder (NED)
- Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
- Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
- Uroš Stojković (SRB)
- Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
- Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
- Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
- CONMEBOL ASSISTANT REFEREE
- CONMEBOL ASSISTANT REFEREE
SUPPORT REFEREES:
- Morten Krogh Hansen (DEN)
- Steffen Beck Bramsen (DEN)
- João Pinheiro (POR)
- Bruno Jesus (POR)
- Allard Lindhout (NED)
- Rogier Honig (NED)
- Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
- Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
- Espen Eskås (NOR)
- Jan Erik Engan (NOR)
- Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
- Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
VAR:
- Alejandro Hernández (ESP)
- Alper Ulusoy (TUR)
- Bastian Dankert (GER)
- Christian Gittelmann (GER)
- Cătălin Popa (ROU)
- Filippo Meli (ITA)
- Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
- Ivan Bebek (CRO)
- Jerôme Brisard (FRA)
- Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
- Lee Betts (ENG)
- Marcin Borkowski (POL)
- Marco Fritz (GER)
- Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
- Nejc Kajtazovič (SVN)
- Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
- Paolo Valeri (ITA)
- Pol van Boekel (NED)
- Rob Dieperink (NED)
- Stuart Attwell (ENG)
- Tiago Martins (POR)
- Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Do you expect that the list with the main referees to be combined with the support officials list in "Qatar style"? Or the lists will be separated, as is normal?
ReplyDeleteWho is Alex Bos, Makkelie fourth referee? Talent?
ReplyDeleteMarc Nagtegaal is the one to watch
DeleteVd Eijk > ESF described him very well. Strong athlete, but rather isolated (slightly arrogant) personality. Strong decision maker, does not hesitate to show a RC. Not connecting with players at all. Lacks a bit maturity imo
DeleteKooij > he’s ahead of Vd Eijk.
Very mature for his age imo. Criticized a lot in NL for being too arrogant (like Björn Kuipers in the beginning), but his confidence and matureness will help him a lot in international games.
Nagtegaal > The opposite of vd Eijk. Not a pure decision maker, but definitely a referee that easily connects with players. Nagtegaal is a policeman, used to work with Makkelie who coached him as well. Natural authority imo. Players respect him.
Jannick Van Der Laan > very young, and considered a big talent. I’d compare him with Vd Eijk. Rather isolated, but a very brave decision maker.
Alex Bos > I haven’t seen too much of him
Alex Bos, at a quick search on Google, indeed a young referee, probably has potential. But with all due respect, one might wonder if he has weight problems... the T-shirt looks tight on him in many photos.
DeleteMarc Nagtegaal will take over the FIFA batch of Jochem Kamphuis. Kamphuis will continue as VAR specialist/referee.
Delete@10:42 - that would be great news! Indeed, big focus on him with some interesting assignments lately
DeleteDo you think Rade Obrenovic with his background could be potential surprising name for Euro 2024, if Gozubuyuk has Zeinstra, Obrenovic has Praprotnik (I’m not comparing the AR, but they all well known AR).
ReplyDeleteImpossible, at maximum reserve referee. Remember that he would be even the second Slovenian after Vincic...
DeleteFor Romanian readers, is Hategan now already regularly officiated in Romanian league? I mean could we expect him back maybe in UECL?
ReplyDeleteSo, we have Van Boekel with Gözübüyük, and Dieperink with Makkelie again. Not surprised by the latter. I’d almost say: better late than never. There should be a big trust between CR & VAR and Van Boekel has really messed up too many times. Plenty of controversial (non-)interventions, also with non-Dutch referees, but for some reason the Refcom kept backing him. Very difficult to understand.
ReplyDeleteInteresting to follow the Dutch VAR assignments in relation to EURO’24
So Dieperink now NED#1 VAR?
ReplyDeleteDieperink is now Makkelie's permanent VAR, chosen/decided by Makkelie. That is something else than the Dutch number 1 VAR.
DeleteVan Boekel is the most experienced VAR, but he doesn’t have a spotless reputation to say the least. Too many mistakes by him. Pure speculation, but I think, he was backed by his friend Kuipers for too long time.
DeleteDieperink, Ruperti and Higler all have experience as main VAR in Classico’s and/or cup finals. Dieperink and Ruperti are specialized VAR’s. Higler still has a FIFA badge.
Kamphuis was VAR in the Europa League final, but not clear why UEFA ‘dropped’ him at some point.
Manschot and Van der Graaf are specialized VMO’s as well, but they seem to operate at a lower level (mainly Conference league).
Lindhout still has a VMO badge, but he was never a specialized VAR though.
Kamphuis is curious case. He dissapeared quietly without any apparent reason. I think at one point UEFA tried to push him as main referee because he was young; but failed to reach top level and after the promotion plan could not be completed, he wasn't even used as VAR as before. Still, after all this years he is only 37....
Delete@Chefren
ReplyDeleteUEFA released many observers for UCL and UEL (MD3 and MD4) today, as expected both sets, however for some games they are still ‘on hold’ :)
Thanks, just watched Mikulski (POL) assigned to PSG - Milan.
DeleteThe Polish observer removed from Israel game and with Gozubuyuk in Spain - Scotland today.
Maybe assigned with Nyberg for the big match at Parc des Princes? Would be the second outstanding assignment for the Swedish, I make this prediction based on what an anoymous wrote (Nyberg removed from Israel and then moved to another game, with a changed observer). We will see... but I rather think, a very experienced Elite referee in Paris.
Nyberg could rather spoil his excellent path there... having too much to lose.
Who knows! Personally, I assumed that Mikulski indicates an experienced Elite. I hope they won’t rush Nyberg like Siebert. It’s a very delicate game.
DeleteThe return game in Milan will be observed by Vassaras.
I find it a bit odd that UEFA already released BVB-NEW (MD4), but the MD3 game in Newcastle is still on hold. Pending on something and we can only speculate :)
Furthermore, a Spanish observer in Turkey whereas this is one of the few available games for a Spaniard, e.g. Gil Manzano. The return game in München is under the eyes of committee (Sajn).
Furthermore, De Bleeckere at Celtic may indicate a cat.1/young Elite (expected choice).
Rizzoli at Manchester City - Etihad is also a regular choice for a possible debut / category 1.
Finally, Björn Kuipers to observe Real Madrid-Braga. Sounds like a possible debut as well.
Indeed one could still question the fact to make appointments so early, especially for MD4, but nothing has changed in the years regarding this aspect. They have more flexibility only between MD5 and MD6. For some aspects, that's good because they assign referees with a "free mind", but of course in case of troubles on the previous MD (in this case MD3), they can change. Particular to have already both referees for the crucials PSG - Milan and Milan - PSG already assigned.
DeleteTrying an analysis for this game, I think: difficult to see Makkelie after his previous games with French team, Marciniak already handled Milan. English, French, German, and Italian referees are out due to the nationality of involved teams. Spanish referees worked already in the group, as well as Kovacs.
It is incredible to point out that if you look at the full list of Elite, you stay only with:
Grinfeeld ISR
Dias POR
Jovanovic SRB
Kruzliak SVK
Vincic SVN
Nyberg SWE
Umut Meler TUR
Removing then the unlikely names, I think we can draw the conclusion that the two names will be among these three: Vincic, Nyberg and Dias.
Many Elite referees on paper, but very often (too often?) only a few options for this committee.
Forgot to add Peljto BIH, after this recent games, he is another option! I add him as fourth name in the list.
DeleteAgree with these names. And I think, they will repeat Gil Manzano and Sanchez in this group again, perhaps MD5, after they handled a MD1 game. Perhaps, Gil Manzano even possible for Milan-PSG due to lack of options
DeleteI agree.
DeleteAny word on the referee for France v Scotland?
ReplyDeleteDo you mean Spain - Scotland?
DeleteFrance v Scotland friendly next week. Probably too early to know
DeleteCould you write all the designated observers and their matches for MD3 and MD4 please?
ReplyDeleteLVAARM
ReplyDelete8', 26' - Two penalty appeals rightly waved away:
https://streamable.com/p4olaf
30' - Instant YCs to 3ARM and 3LVA for a foul and subsequent conflict; could have been managed using personality, imo, but we know UEFA wants strict approach now:
https://streamable.com/1quqyl
33' - Blatantly demanding a YC to an opponent, should have resulted in a YC, this time the referee afraid of making this choice; I think it will be marked as a missed YC by the observer:
https://streamable.com/x8rszm
42' - Illegal use of arm by already cautioned 3ARM; rather still more careless than reckless, correct no 2YC:
https://streamable.com/95hh66
Thanks, basically good with the rejected penalty appeals, but I would have liked a different disciplinary management in the other incidents.
DeleteAfter the conflict, the YC to #3ARM can be only for the previous foul, because after that he did nothing and he was rather attacked by Latvian player.
Would have been better to issue the yellow card later on, to player asking for it against opponent in 33'.
In 42', correct to consider only as careless, referee was close.
I see from this clip a Slovenian referee that clearly gained trust in his body language, thank to CL debut.
Red card for Obrenovic, second yellow for Latvian defender. Imo correct decision but messy procedure, could have been DOGSO too
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/3zsax2
DeleteOptimal: issue the SYC immediately
DeleteStill okay: issue the SYC straight after check complete, playing it off as ‘well I was always going to give it but was waiting for confirmation about inside vs. outside first’
Too poor: ‘randomly’ giving the cards whilst setting up the wall(!!) when nobody expected it
He blew up for the foul slightly late so he was probably struggling to determine the offender? And yes, definitely correct (final) decision.
Genuinely head-stretching how so many of the (theoretically) best ≈100 referees in Europe still don’t know how to handle these Eastern clashes probably - no booking at 61’ for a fully deliberate (-> reckless) trip is the sort of decision you can get away with in CL, but not in these matches. A conflict then follows minutes later, resulting in a caution for unsporting behaviour (supportable).
DeleteOhi ohi ohi.
DeleteFinal decision is correct, but in this case it looks like all the rest (a big mess) overtakes everything. Very poor management, I think that the difficult situation (inside, outside, DOGSO, SPA? and maybe missed player who committeed foul, indeed) stopped him for a while and he wasn't sure about what to do. Then, only after VAR consultation and when free kick was ready, he remembered that he had to send off player. One must trust him abut the original idea e already wanted to issue a card, but you can only think in this way. Committee will definitely not like the scene and it will be a very important point for improvement. But about football and the game: all OK with the expected call he made.
I also agree with Oliver above, in case of straight RC would have been supported by VAR.
Yellow card (SYC) correct in my opinion. I agree that it's a very messy situation, unfortunate since it creates more frustration than the situation required :/
DeleteNo idea what this ref in Latvia is doing. That had to be at least a booking for the keeper for handball
ReplyDelete(agree, missed YC).
Delete57', 63', 85', 87' - correctly rejected penalty appeals
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/1tsg9j
61' - potential YC 10LVA for cynical tripping
https://streamable.com/b3aino
64' - YC 8LVA for UB/VC; rather negligible amount of contact, therefore at least acceptable 'only' YC
https://streamable.com/z3gd10
66' - GK's handball outside the penalty area - no card; SPA? DOGSO?
https://streamable.com/ukw3n5
68' - correct onside at 2:0 goal
https://streamable.com/m6oxxr
75', 76' - play-on calls
https://streamable.com/prc6tq
82' - management of time wasting by LVA
https://streamable.com/3rs45h
88' - potential 2YC to 3ARM for SPA; rather sensible to keep the player on the field
https://streamable.com/h4mapw
90+3' - PAI: illegal use of arm; I guess that in case of different reaction by Armenian player, it could have been an OFR
https://streamable.com/gdcwjo
61' should have been indeed YC. I think that the referee didn't notice the nature of the infringment and he thought about something less than what had happened.
DeleteAbout the situation in 66', I'm in trouble because in some occasions I had read about a guideline to consider always only direct freee kick and no card when keeper makes a save and then he can't avoid to go out from penalty area with the ball in his hands.
Nevertheless, it was never clear to me why this was applied, because with an opponent close, you can easily think at least about a SPA, if he is able to get ball. I think the regulation in this case could be that keeper would have never done that deliberately, so being ball safe in his hands, impossible to think about a dangerous action, but still..
From the Italian translation of LOTG, page 105 of the PDF, last sentence:
"If a goalkeeper after having regularly made a save, for
effect of the momentum leaves the penalty area with the ball in his hands, which decision should be taken?
Referee will have to award a direct free kick."
And... WOW, the incident in 90'+3 is indeed very particular. Can be both nothing and penalty at the same time, depending on player's reaction. I think it is possible that VAR didn't even check that, but in case of fall after the hit by Armenian player, putting the sportlight on the action of defender, clearly an OFR would have followed. It looks given even with a certain force.. but in this case I think NO PENALTY will be supported.
Link: https://www.aia-figc.it/download/regolamenti/reg_2023.pdf
Deletewhere can I find the observers?
ReplyDeleteClearest free kick you are ever likely to see not given for Scotland. Potentially one of the worst no foul decisions I have ever seen
ReplyDeleteEven worse than the free kick Italy got in 2007? (not watching unfortunately)
DeleteControversial situation in Makkelie's match,RC to CZE player after trying to score with hand.
ReplyDeleteDisallowed 1-1 by Czech Republic in Albania, I think Steegstra was involved here, he reported to Makkelie that player had scored by hand. The decision was confirmed by VAR. It is interesting to add that player was booked (so the touch considered as "deliberate" in the old meaning, not a simplce touch according to new update). One can agree with that, because player made a movement toward the ball and it wasn't the contrary. The rule can sound still harsh, but I think corect applied in this case.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamff.co/v/JCNEmKw3sT
DeleteI am not completely sure, whether it touched the punishable part of the arm, but if it did, the 2nd YC seems indeed mandatory.
DeleteAnother 2yc forgotten by Danny after Séville...
DeleteHe wasn't trying to deceive a referee. He was trying to score a goal with his shoulder. Unfortunately, the ball hit his arm. Correctly dissalowed goal. But very wrong yellow card, no football understanding by the referee.
DeleteFROPOL
ReplyDelete31' - PAI: handball; I think another VAR could have intervened there but surely a borderline call
https://streamable.com/0o4qu0
Well, this is the classic position of the arm in which you don't know what to do, indeed. You can see it either a bit too open or not so much open but natural with body. I think in such situations, if a player is making the opening movement, he could be more punished, but still borderline and one can find agreement with VAR, also from an Italian point of view about handballs :)
DeleteI hope, it made a difference that the ball comes from teammate from close distance. Most English or Dutch VAR’s would play on, definitely, but I can see Italian VAR’s make an intervention here :)
DeleteIMO, it is so clearly borderline, that it is mandatory for the VAR not to intervene in any case. :)
DeleteCorrect call
DeletePenalty or play on both supportable and both could be considered "correct" by an observer. I think from a player, referee and spectator POV, you'd like for those handballs to not be penalized. The defender is trying to move away and you could say that an arm is expected to be resting in that sort of position. For me, even though it's borderline, it becomes a "correct" decision from a spectating POV.
DeleteFaroe - Poland crucial incident in minute 46 to be rewatched carefully (to me it's a penalty + YC).
ReplyDeleteOn field decision was play on, a mistake by Lindhout. It was overturned to free kick + RC DOGSO after OFR.
I am from Poland but to my mind there was no foul. The Dutch referee does not looked self-confident.
DeleteOFR in Spain for Gozubuyuk, player in offside close to keeper made also contact with him before the goal scored, impeding to make a save. Correct intervention by VAR, basically offside + action against keeper. The Dutch crew assessed that it was foul on keeper.
ReplyDeleteCorrect if its given as offside. Looked liked he signalled a defensive foul which is more debatable
Deletewas given as a foul. awful decision
DeleteConformed by UEFA it was disallowed for a foul. Not offside
Deletegames turning into a non contact sport
DeleteI agree that it would have been more logical to call the offside, but since the offside is clearly punishable, not a real problem, I think they punished the touch by attacker to keeeper when ball entered. Easier to call only the offside after OFR.
DeleteVan Boekel, who else..
DeleteUk tv said UEFA said it wasn't offside. Only foul decision
DeleteIf the decision was for interfering with the goalie when he’s offside which is what I originally thought then it seems fair enough but how that can be a foul i’ll never know
DeleteAnd now Spain score. Some injustice here. It really is quite embarrassing.
Delete@Anonymous 22:24 there isn't any injustice here. Goal had to be clearly disallowed for offside. You can just question the reason of the decision, but you must be honest about the outcome!
DeleteOkay but that was not what was communicated to everybody watching and hence it was given as a foul based on the signal made by the referee. Everyone bar the officials can see that there is no foul there
Deletehttps://twitter.com/FootyAccums/status/1712569557112480230
DeleteThis suggests the opposite.
Its never a foul but its offside. Personally a mistake in signal by Gozubuyuk by signalling a foul not an offside
Wow, what a start of second half to Lindhout!!!
ReplyDelete46' - Play-on call -> OFR -> FK and RC
https://streamable.com/2irkx2
51' - PAI: holding
https://streamable.com/98pyq7
He is somehow like a magnet this year for difficult and usually wrong onfield decisions. But this time he fell short expecting the unexpected (as we know this from Peter Fjordfelt :-) )
DeleteHowever I try to understand it why this was not given as penalty. I know they look for the very first contact, but I think the decisive offense happens inside.
The holding could have been whistled, VAR would have supported, but not a clear and obvious mistake, correct to support.
DeleteAbout 46': as first argument I would say that Lindhout was not ready to properly assess this incident because only a few seconds after second half kick off, this was something unexpected at that moment, with referee still "cold" after half time.
Having said that, playing on in my opinion can't be expected decision in this case, referee had to whistle and decide for something, to give credibility, then VAR would have corrected his decision. No mistake at all to assess this one wrongly inside or outside, but better that than playing on (my opinion).
To me clear foul with a failed attempt to play ball, so genuine.
Referee could have (to me expected decision) with penalty and YC on the pitch. Watching the footage shown to referee during OFR, to be honest, I can't understand how this can be assessed outside the box. Referee very unsure at monitor...
Wow. 1st situation is a clear foul, touch on right knee. Typical Lindhout style to wait for Var instead of making the decision himself. I often appreciate his leniency and generous foul selection, but he should be more confident when assessing KMI’s.
Delete2nd situation, I can understand why VAR does not intervene. There is a holding, but attacker is also (smartly) leaning behind and initiating his fall. I would call it soft, but if whistled, VAR will support
These seems to be the synchronized frames when the first contact, upper leg to upper leg, occurred. Seems just slightly outside the box.
Deletehttps://files.fm/u/df38km84q8
Kamphuis is a much better VAR than Van Boekel, just saying.
DeleteOK, inside/outside decision is very tight and we can trust Kamphuis' job in VAR room.
DeleteThough the original play on decision made by Lindhout is wrong for sure.
46' The decision inside/outside is impossible to be 100% certain from what we see. Play on decision obviously wrong but very easy for a referee to not be mentally prepared for such a situation when the second half has just begun, although this shouldn't be a thing amongst the elite, this is the reality of being a human. An unfortunate error but luckily for Lindhout he has VAR :)
DeleteI know the games have not ended yet, but seems like we will have a very interesting top game in November when Poland will host Czech Republic. Already wondering about names, I have strong guess for Turpin or Kovacs for this game.
ReplyDeleteAccording to UEFA, the Scottish goal was disallowed for offside.
ReplyDeleteSo it is just possible Gozubuyuk made a wrong gesture after OFR...
Never handball in Croatia - Turkey, should follow an OFR.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion bad mistake from a very experienced referee. Even in case of handball it's clearly not punishable because fully unexpected ball to arm in a natural position.
DeleteYes, imagine there would be no VAR. It would be a terrible mistake. Game has heated up in 2nd half and Taylor’s decisions contributed to that unfortunately
DeleteDefinitely not the old Taylor we know... in recent times, I think that after the issues in Europa League final, he is afraid to make mistakes with handballs + different PL guidelines that can create him more confusion.
DeleteIt's unbelievable that a referee at this level would fabricate a penalty under pressure from the tribunes. VAR saved lives this time.
DeleteEnglish referees have had a simply dreadful start to the season. Both Taylor and Oliver have been very poor this season, making many mistakes. English refereeing is really in turmoil
DeleteTaylor has always been a referee prone to a massive howler. Thats honestly one of the worst decisions I have ever seen. Even if it hit his arm its never a penalty in a million years, natural position and massive deflection at short distance just before
DeleteRisk of Taylor missing out on euros?
DeleteHere is the position.
Deletehttps://streamable.com/76nbiy
AHAHHAHAHAHAHA
DeleteTaylor has always been an awful ref
There is more referees making mistakes unfortunately.
DeleteNot just English referees.
So if you are going to write about mistakes.
Then look further than the English .
They are plenty of examples this week to show .
Every single match, car crash performances for Obrenovic. He could punch someone on a pitch and still get good appointments. Political game play - awful
ReplyDeleteSame counts for our so loved italians.... indeed awful
DeleteEven when they don't referee a game, they are awful, correct, Anonymous?
DeleteCome on, it wasn't sooo bad today - he faced a challenging game. Yes, he could have managed the incident in 30' instead of instantly issuing YCs, should have caution ARM player for waving an imaginary card three minutes later (I can't imagine it will be supported by observer with the current trends being in the air) and he most likely forgot the player who committed an offence while focusing on the place where the offence occured in 51' (my gut feeling is that VAR unofficially helped him there). The rest was good / supportable (although I would strongly prefer penalty + YC for the illegal use of arm in 90+3'), I like his focused approach, always making assessments of the incidents, he is also a good runner.
DeleteGozubuyuk can improve his positioning imo. He often gets in the way
ReplyDeleteGözübüyük attitude and the way he carries himself around the pitch is horrible. Theres an arrogance to him
ReplyDeleteAgreed. A number of inconsistencies that just frustrates players.
DeleteI must admit, having watched many of Gozubuyuk’s games in 2023: He improved a lot with Zeinstra on his side, he is certainly less hesitating. But I agree that he comes across as slightly arrogant.
DeleteI guess, for some referees it is difficult to find balance between ‘standing above the parties’ and still being humble. Makkelie is a good example of that imo, and therefore always respected by players.
The discussion about Gozubuyuk is interesting, having observed a real change in him, I don't think that now it is about being arrogant. Maybe, to sa it better, the Dutch still needs to change his approch, with a better communication and management of the players. He has reached now a certain step, if we remember the old referee, that's absolutely remarkable, but he can do more, trying to be more on the same level of the players without losing his authority. I think that if you don't have some skills, it is hard to develop artificially them, but what Gozubuyuk can do is surely to think also to players and not only being worried about correct decisoions to make on the pitch, to say it in simple words.
DeleteCommunication from UEFA regarding the Scotland goal was very poor. Referee on field signal was a foul signal. Uefa said initially the goal was disallowed for a foul, then they say it was disallowed for offside. Poor Communication.
ReplyDeleteOffside is completely correct in the end, for me a foul would be wrong, in the end correct decision but the Communication and process has understandably confused and unsettled many Scots
Agree. Not all TV-watchers go to uefa.com to read the match report. They watch the game and see the referee making a defensive free kick signal.
DeleteIt creates confusion and confusion will generate headlines. As a referee you want to avoid that. And not for the first time, Van Boekel involved as well.
Usual rubbish from Van Boekel in VAR
ReplyDeleteWas offside contact with keeper 👍🏻
ReplyDeleteVery good game, of Gozubuyjk, very difficult. He gave a indirect free kick and show clear a line before keeper restart the game for offside. No discussion; the attacker have contact with the keeper, the attacker was in offside position, the tv show the offside lines. The question is he have to go for OFR or not. Was it factual or interpretation. I think correct call OFR, he whistle for offside
ReplyDeleteIf you ask me that OFR is correct because there isn't a clear challenge for the ball. For example if both players had jumped towards the ball it would had been factual.
DeleteHowever offside offence is the correct outcome.
The Scotland forward has his hands on the goalkeeper, clearly has to be intervening, shouldn't need an OFR for me
ReplyDeleteDutch referee teams: very good Makkelie and very good Gozubuyuk tonight in the crucial games.
ReplyDeleteAllard lindhout was very very bad today,
More clips from FROPOL
ReplyDelete16' - YC 2POL for reckless stamp; mandatory
https://streamable.com/l7xceh
21' - Potential YC 16FRO for DtR; I would expect a YC nowadays
https://streamable.com/0cs9zk
38' - Good management of a player putting on his shoe, waiting also for good moment to allow the player to re-enter the field of play (Shukrallah in POLSEN at WC2018 comes to my mind)
https://streamable.com/ld491p
43' - YC 7POL for reckless challenge; mandatory
https://streamable.com/csdoeg
85' - YC 19FRO for reckless tackle; mandatory (arguments for SFP?)
https://streamable.com/8947u8
90+3' - YC 6POL for SPA tripping; mandatory
https://streamable.com/zv1f4p
90+4' - YC 15FRO for cynical kick from behind; mandatory (and I would always prefer a RC for such offences but we know UEFA...)
https://streamable.com/w1mz81
90+4' - YC 23POL for retaliation (UB/VC); not cautioning 4FRO for provoking the incident with that late challenge should be deemed a mistake
https://streamable.com/lkdbdd
BONUS - compilation showing Lindhout's philosophy of letting play flow, he is really good at that (but he has to remember it might be very risky in hot games)
https://streamable.com/sz4y09
Thanks ESF. It is actually refreshing to see him dish out so many cards. In Eredivisie, Lindhout is a referee with a very low card average. His body language looks confident in the clips you posted. The ‘46 OFR situation is a pity though. Not his best moment.
DeleteLuckily some good VAR work.
Does anybody know why Kamphuis was so out of favor after the 2020 UEL final?
Smart refereeing of Makkelie with the (correctly) disallowed goal. Buying time by walking to Steegstra so the VAR can check the possible handball. Impossible to see for Steegstra from that position if the ball hits the shoulder or arm. For me a good example using the VAR out of the protocol!
ReplyDeleteYes, but second yellow? Player wanted to score with his shoulder and it accidentally hit his arm. This is not deliberately trying to fool the referee. Football understanding, guys!
DeleteThe handball rule should be indeed changed to avoid that.
DeleteA referee can't read the mind of a player, we can think that indeed he wanted to go with should or another part of body, but he went by arm. The difference card / no card in this case is made, as already written, by the active movement of the player toward ball. When, on the contrary, a player is hit by ball on arm and then he scores, no card... but still we saw many and many harsh decisions when this rule was applied. I would like to see a change... really.
Agree. If you try that action to score a goal you are also taking the risk of hitting the ball with your arm. Hence it's a mandatory yellow by the book. Likewise if you are a defender and you try the same action to rebound a shot to the goal it's a mandatory SPA yellow.
DeleteWow big problems for Obrenovic. VAR telling him yellow card will be big impact on mark for him and var
ReplyDeleteDid u considered the fact, that he was very likely also reminded by his assistant or FO. I think that this is way likelier than that there really was VAR. E.g. he really didn’t get the player and was told by assistant/FO. Nevertheless, it still is a mistake by referee, I’m just not convinced that it was a mistake by the VAR. Without knowing what really happened this is impossible to assess and therefore, I find it very problematic to blame the VAR.
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