Parc des Princes, Paris (FRA)
Paris SG FC - Real Madrid CF
Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mark Borsch (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Marco Fritz (GER)
Fourth Official: Markus Häcker (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Nebojša Ivković (SRB)
06.03.2018, 20:45 CET
Anfield, Liverpool (ENG)
Liverpool FC - FC Porto
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
Fourth Official: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge.(NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Aristeidis Stavropoulos (GRE)
Anfield, Liverpool (ENG)
Liverpool FC - FC Porto
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
Fourth Official: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge.(NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Aristeidis Stavropoulos (GRE)
Brych: Nebojsa Ivkovic (Srb) and Kyros Vassaras
ReplyDeleteZwayer: Aresteidis Stavropoulos (Gre) and Terje Hauge.
I am surprised with Brych in Paris. But since Vassaras is observer and I do not see why would commitee member observe Brych, I guess he is replace for someone (Skomina, Mazic, Marciniak maybe)...
About Vassaras, I don't think that Brych is a replacement.
DeleteWe see always committee members in top clashes (remember Rocchi in first leg), so there shouldn't be a specific reason, committee just makes this choice because the game is a big match and a very important observer for the referee is assigned.
Yes, you are right about that. It will be interesting if Commitee will have the same logic when it comes to Barcelona-Chelsea. I would rather see Brych in Barcelona and maybe Cakir in Paris. Upcoming appointments will be very interesting...
DeleteMarciniak is available for Barcelona
DeleteZwayer was expected there. Big surprise with Brych.
ReplyDeleteI think it is the first time in recent history that a referee gets both a first leg and a second leg of this round of the competition (round of 16). We all remember Cakir in two semifinals, but in Round of 16 it never happened in recent times if I'm not wrong.
Of course, a reward for a very good performance in Juventus - Tottenham (he has indeed won our poll, as well), but at the same time I would say that committe doesn't want absolutely to "risk" candidates for the CL final in such kind of clashes, with high pressure on the official. So, this explains the choice of Brych, who in any case got a deserved game.
If I remember well Benquerenca is the last who was appointed two times in Round of 16.
DeleteIndeed, and Stark in 2008/09 (as a replacement for Fandel in the second case)
DeleteAnother logic may be Brych was left with 2 CL group games because of early injury so Committee wanted to bring him on level terms with the rest maybe? :D
DeleteOne more theory :
ReplyDeleteIt maybe possible that the Committee initially appointed Kuipers for Juventus v Tottenham on 1st leg but then we know closely before the R16 Kuipers got injured and maybe that's why Brych came in to replace him??
In Paris Mazic, Skomina, Marciniak, Eriksson....
ReplyDeleteNonsense repeat Brych.
Brych deserves these kinds of games but yes the repeat could've been avoided that's for sure!!
DeleteOT :
ReplyDeleteAll Serie A matches postponed this weekend after the untimely and tragic demise of Fiorentina captain Davide Astori at the age of 31 only. We all pay respect to the departed soul from this blog and also hope that his soul may rest in eternal peace :(
A shocking news, it was a mandatory decision by our federation to postpone all the games planned for today.
DeleteI'm really speechless and I reflect about the meaning of the life.
We already experienced something like that 6 years ago with Piermario Morosini, he died during a serie B game in 2012 and it was a similar situation to what happened today.
Let me add some thoughts... sometimes we talk about stupid things, we "fight" against each other, but for what? We lose contact with reality. We must always remember that health is the first thing and all the rest is not important. We must be happy just because we are here every day. Today I'm really touched and I think that such tragedies should never happen. He was only 31 years old with a very young daughter (2 y. o.). How to explain what happened? Deep sadness.
May he rest in peace... thanks for you kind message, Soham.
We all share the pain Chefren as football lovers and the biggest of all as humans :(
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ReplyDeleteFor me the best referees of Spain are Undiano Mallenco and
Del Cerro Grande and not Matéu Lahoz and Gil Manzano.
Today Gil Manzano in FC Barcelona-Atlético. Mamma mia! ...
For 'you' is the keyword... Not for UEFA, FIFA and the most of us out here :D
DeleteEveryone has their own opinion.
DeleteIn my opinion,even though Mateu was not great in Las Palmas-Barca match he is still,to me,first name in Spain,you can see that UEFA appreciates him by giving him dome big matches(Italy-Sweden,Monaco-Juventus semifinals of CL,PSG-Bayern,City-Napoli.
I would like to add another name in discussion,Sanchez Martinez.He will for sure be top name in Spain in future.
Alberto,
DeleteWhat problems do you see in Manzano?
Nicely put forward by M in this context... After Mateu Lahoz I think Gil Manzano will be the next Spanish No. 1 ;)
Delete57' Maybe a missed YC for dissent and a YC for Busquets for SPA with handball...but overall still a good match management for him.
DeleteExcellent Gil Manzano, perfect
ReplyDeleteProbably Alberto will be satisfied now :D
DeleteAgreed, very good and sophisticated performance this afternoon. Also by the ARs, great and crucial call by first assistant to cancel a 1-1 at about 86'.
DeleteI am certain he will join Elite, when Fernandez Borbalan retires his spot at the end of the season.
Nobody is perfect.
DeleteI can confirm an excellent Michael Oliver in the big Premier League match Manchester City v Chelsea tonight!!
ReplyDeleteOT :
ReplyDeleteChefren, can we play some guess the referee game from Quarter final onwards?? If you wish I can take the responsibility... Would be great if we can play something, not for prizes but just for fun :)
Good idea.....
DeleteLet's see if we can manage to organize something like that :) Thank you for your proposal, Soham.
DeleteMy pleasure always :)
DeleteHuge clash between Legia Warszawa and Lech Poznań, refereed by Szymon Marciniak, has been decided by the late handball penalty decision. Lech's coach Nenad Bjelica said Marciniak should be ashamed of this call. There is no clear intention to handle the ball, but the ball should be classified as expected, hands are in an unnatural position, the player makes himself bigger... Correct decision for my taste.
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Also one situation from the first half. Unsporting behaviour or violent conduct (attack on the face)? Borderline, I think, and Marciniak should be backed in my opinion.
https://streamable.com/5faej
Sorry but that is just not a penalty IMO... That never ever a "deliberate" handball in a million years... Plain wrong call going by LOTG wordings...
DeleteThe situation from the first half is also very clear and it's a violent conduct so definitely a RC for my taste... Not impressed with the devisions made by Marciniak in either as far as I'm concerned...
Penalty is very harsh, but maybe Marciniak could be even backed, given the strict instructions about handballs in Poland.
DeleteI disagree with Soham about the incident in first half. Not a violent conduct, YC is definitely enough, it is the correct decision by Marciniak. Player made also a bit of scene there, but of course the action must be punished.
Szymon Marciniak was interviewed and he stated that he had no choice - expected ball, unnatural hand position and also the fact that the Legia player won the position, was privileged and the contact that threw the Lech player off the balance has been initiated by him, not by the Legia player.
DeleteThat unnatural hand position is the point which is a good argument in favour of Marciniak's call... Maybe it will be backed because of that but either way it's really harsh...
DeleteOn the second incident I think the fouled player creating a scene has conned me :D I surely would've pulled my red out there...
In the first incident: Marciniak can definitely be backed in my taste due to the unnatural position of the arm and the ball was clearly expected. So definitely not a mistake for my taste, I would have whistled it myself as well.
DeleteOn the second incident: this is more unsporting behaviour in my view than violent conduct, I'm okay with a yellow card here. As Chefren already stated, the player makes more out of the situation, it's a bit of theatre if you ask me.
We probably expect Marciniak, Mateu, Mazic and Skomina now for the remaining 4 open matches. In that case, Brych's appointment also indicates that UEFA doesn't trust anyone else with these big games. In my opinion that is especially a bad sign for Karasev, who should be behind Turpin now, looking at the WC.
ReplyDeleteBut of course, there might be more surprises. E.g. any of the 4 above could get a direct QF without R16 match.
Kuipers is a candidate for a direct QF
DeleteNew predictions:
DeleteMateu TOT - JUV
Makkelie MCI - BAS
Marciniak BAR - CHE
Mazic MNU - SEV
Skomina ROM - SHA
I forgot Besiktas - Bayern, very difficult to make prediction there, but again, I would bet on Taylor.
DeleteBesiktas v Bayern I expect Makkelie and Sidiropoulos in Man City v Basel
DeleteMaybe Undiano Mallenco is a candidate for Besiktas - Bayern as well, if they want to appoint him in a CL game.
DeleteSurely won't be undeserved :)
Delete@Chefren: very likely you got it right ;) Like in Mateu's prediction for this week (let's see tomorrow), for that week Del Cerro Grande is appointed on Monday... without his regular AR1 Yuste Jiménez who has lately been Undiano's AR2. Undiano himself is appointed for Friday, so it is indeed very possible that he is in the middle for Besiktas-Bayern.
DeleteVery likely it's not going to happen :D @George
DeleteYep, it seems that CTA's appointments are not something to take into account for predictions, even though they are really strange sometimes.
DeleteAfter checking, it is surely not going to happen: Manuel Díaz Vega is the observer for that game.
DeleteWe can only expect Makkelie's debut in CL KO stage in this game, otherwise it would be strange to see Zwayer but not the Dutch.
DeleteBut I'm a little surprised that Sidiropoulos misses out... Last he was perfect in Arsenal v Bayern Munich game and so he should've had a game this time round as well... Maybe instead of Kralovec I'd say!!
DeleteHe wasn't perfect, I remember he rather struggled to be honest, and that combined with mistakes in Paris - Ludogorets facilitated this low-key season for the Greek.
DeleteBut Arsenal v Bayern all key decisions were correct??
DeleteIt seems quite sure Undiano Mallenco has an appointment for next week, maybe Roma-Shaktar
ReplyDeleteParcs des Princes in Paris is full of smoke... Looks so clumsy and polluted...
ReplyDeleteRonaldo should have gotten a red card minute 16. Violent conduct. Attempting to kick the oponent before restart of play.
ReplyDeleteSomething like a violent conduct as reaction by Cristiano Ronaldo... he is always lucky, because one referee could send him off for such behavior. Nothing new from the Portuguese.
ReplyDeleteCorrect YC to Verratti.
ReplyDeleteAnother card (this time, a YC) forgiven to Real Madrid for displacing the ball after a free kick was whistled.
ReplyDeleteCorrect YC to Kovacic.
ReplyDeleteBrych stamping his authority on the match pretty well
ReplyDeleteFor sure!
DeleteNow the match is more and more difficult
It's heating up in the middle... Will be a very, very interesting 2nd half
ReplyDeleteGood first half by Brych, I'm sure the second will be more challenging.
ReplyDeleteIMO, the decision not to send off Ronaldo must be considered a crucial mistake. Too obvious VC even if Alves was not hit.
DeleteSorry but this would have been a desaster...
DeleteYes it is a clear red card. Contact or no contact makes no difference. And Brych lets Cavani protest and doesn’t punish delaying of restarts either in this match.
DeleteThis decision would have "marked" for a long time Brych, as it was for Çakır in 2013 after Manchester United - Real Madrid, but you are right. It must be, at least on the paper, a crucial mistake, because according to LotG it is RC. Very difficult argument.
DeleteWhat you are saying is true but also shows the lack of courage by pro referees. I understand if a division 6 referee is scared to give a red for that but a professional referee should not care a second about being mentioned on the news for a clear red. This is sad.
DeleteFully agreed with victor, George- in LOTG, this is a Red Card.
DeleteBut everyone knows the referee that sends off Ronaldo in that situation, does not whistle a CL Final, WC Final etc.
On the paper - yes but on the pitch everything right!
DeleteGood match so far
Mikael exactly that
DeleteFrom what I know, it is not a violent conduct as it had to be an "attempt to kick an opponent"and that has place only in case of deliberate avoiding the contact by the victim. In this situation Ronaldo just misses an opponent who is not aware of Ronaldo's behaviour. Therefore, it is an unsporting behaviour and yellow card should have been issued.
DeleteBrych need not be scared I think... He is as big a name in refereeing as Ronaldo is as a player... Referees like Brych need to set examples and not bottle big calls... Collina I think supports his referees quite a lot for good decisions??
DeleteHere a video:
Deletehttps://streamable.com/7lw2h
@RayHD from what I know, the attempt of hitting opponent is enough in any case for a RC, even if the player fails in his intent. I didn't know about the difference you are talking about (opponent who deliberately avoids the contact). Is that based on the LotG?
DeleteRay, I'm sorry but I completely disagree. I'd agree if it is a kick in the air that could never hit the opponent. Tonight, Ronaldo only misses because Alves was running away (without being aware of the kick, just because they were in a hurry). So, in this situation, it is (for me, of course), a clear RC.
DeleteMikael, if that is the case, then it is a very poor signal from the committee.
Please
DeleteRonaldo when he moves with his leg, the opponent was already far away.
RC, never!
I am portuguese.
The LotG require brutality and/or excessive force for a VC, and Ronaldo’s action in my opinion is reckless at most. I’m quite sure UEFA doesn’t consider this a VC. One can agree or disagree on this interpretation, but this is the way UEFA instructs their referees. In the latest RAP a clip is included showing a more brutal/excessive kick, which is still deemed a YC.
DeleteJust to explain my statement: this is what has been said by Polish Referees Committee after that tackle
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and what is included in written instructions for Polish referees.
'Attempt to strike an opponent' or 'attempt to kick an opponent' should be punished as the same act done. The terms 'attempt to strike an opponent' and 'attempt to kick an opponent' should be understood that the player didn't strike (kick) an opponent only because that the opponent avoided being stroke/kicked with a dodge.
How are so many flares allowed into the stadium??? It's seriously affecting visibility now!!
ReplyDeleteVeratti sent off at 66'
ReplyDeleteFor a 2nd YC
DeleteCorrect second YC to Verratti.
ReplyDeleteSecond YC to Verratti for dissenting behavior. A very blatant protest by the Italian player was immediately punished by Brych.
ReplyDeleteJust one single question (and one answer): Would, Brych sent off, for example, C. Ronaldo for such behavior if he had YC? Not in a billion years! Situation with Ronaldo in first half explains that better than anything. That is the problem and the same problem occurs from one year to another.
DeleteWe saw what happened last year (lots of offside goals, crucial RC for Vidal which was blatant mistake...) and Real won the title. Year before again everything gone in favor of Real, including decisive offside goal in final against Atletico (Clattenburg as referee). In the future I will escape Real matches in CL... Simply because of my felling for justice.
You can't make assumptions like ttat based solely on your feelings, Teo... To say that Brych would've bottled the decision without seeing what he does when he gets the opportunity is very wrong IMO
Delete100 % that brych also Sent of CS in that case...
DeleteI'm sure Brych would have sent off Cristiano Ronaldo in case of such behavior. The situation in first half is different and you can't compare it. In that case, Brych wouldn't have punished a player from PSG as well.
DeleteOf course, you can call it as mine assumpions, but I can't explain how it is possible that for one refs' mistake that goes against Real come 10 in favor of Real. I understand that Real is probably the biggest club on the world and that it is not easy to make a decision against it, but too often refs close their eyes when they should make big decision against it (e.g. remember how many times last year Casemiro escaped red cards - he deserved them in almost every match). Simply, this is the true and you don't have to agree with me.
DeleteBut Viktor Kassai and Felix Brych are vastly different referees...
DeleteWhat a stupid red card! Well done by Brych.
ReplyDeleteOT (not completely...): DFB has confirmed, that Bastian Dankert and Felix Zwayer are candidates for the VAR role at the WC.
ReplyDeleteStrangely, in Bundesliga both had only 1 VAR appointment in 2018 so far.
Not taking into account Ronaldo's incident, good performance from Brych.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone see Felix Zwayer tonight?
ReplyDeleteI saw.
DeleteSimple game. There are two possible penalty calls.
Minutes of the penalty incidents?
DeleteHow was Seater's overall performance?? 8.4 level or less??
DeleteZwayer became Seater because of autocorrect... Sorry :D
DeleteYes, a very good performance by Brych. The incident involving Cristiano Ronaldo deserves a particular analysis, but all the rest was excellent. Game was challenging but not so challenging as one could have expected, because PSG didn't manage to put in trouble Real Madrid and the Spanish team had always the control of the game. Brych candidate for a semifinal after this game.
ReplyDeleteHe always is a candidate for big games :D Very good referee :D
DeleteBoth penalty incidents from Liverpool - Porto:
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https://streamable.com/d7kmn
I think Zwayer can be backed, about the first incident I really don't understan where this contact occurred...
DeleteNot penalties. Very well Zwayer.
DeleteU17 qualifiers
ReplyDeleteGroup 2
Date: 9-15 March 2018
Host Country: Croatia
Teams: Belgium, Croatia, Cyprus, Sweden
Referees: Eldorjan Hamiti (ALB), Christopher Jäger (AUT), Nejc Kajtazovič (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observers: Alain Hamer (LUX), Michael Thomas Ross (NIR)
Group 5
Date: 7-13 March 2018
Host Country: Netherlands
Teams: Iceland, Italy, Netherlands, Turkey
Referees: Yigal Frid (ISR), Rohit Saggi (NOR), Julian Weinberger (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observers: Kim Milton Nielsen (DEN), Uno Tutk (EST)