Group B
18 September 2018, 18:55 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
FC Barcelona (ESP) - PSV Eindhoven (NED)
Referee: Anastásios Sidirópoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Polychrónis Kostarás (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Lázaros Dimitriádis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Damianós Efthymiádis (GRE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Anastásios Papapétrou (GRE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Ioánnis Papadópoulos (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Alan McRae (SCO)
Group B
18 September 2018, 18:55 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) - Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Guillaume Debart (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Nicolas Rainville (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Jozef Kliment (SVK)
Group A
18 September 2018, 21:00 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Jan de Vries (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Kevin Blom (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO)
UEFA Delegate: Zoran Cvrk (CRO)
Group A
18 September 2018, 21:00 CET - Monaco (Stade Louis II)
AS Monaco FC (FRA) - Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Referee: William Collum (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David McGeachie (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Fourth Official: Douglas Potter (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Andrew Dallas (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Nicolas Walsh (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kaj Østergaard (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Roy Cathcart (NIR)
Group C
18 September 2018, 21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool FC (ENG) - Paris Saint-Germain (FRA)
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarık Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Liba (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Dag Steinar Vestlund (NOR)
Group C
18 September 2018, 21:00 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
FK Crvena zvezda (SRB) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Radosław Siejka (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Ádonis Prokopíou (CYP)
Group D
18 September 2018, 21:00 CET - Istanbul (Ali Sami Yen Spor Kompleksi Türk Telekom Stadyumu)
Galatasaray (TUR) - FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS)
Referee: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Mauro Tonolini (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Fourth Official: Matteo Passeri (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Luca Banti (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Antonov (MDA)
UEFA Delegate: Milovan Đukanović (MNE)
Group D
18 September 2018, 21:00 CET - Gelsenkirchen (VELTINS-Arena)
FC Schalke 04 (GER) - FC Porto (POR)
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Fourth Official: Javier Martínez Nicolás (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: José Luis Munuera Montero (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Frank De Bleeckere (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Evans (WAL)
Good Luck to the Greek team at Camp Nou
ReplyDeleteWhy do the matches in group B start that early? I rather know such kick-off times from countries with artic climate on MD 5/6 in December - but Barcelona/Milan in September? 🤔
ReplyDeleteBecause timing of the games is changed from this season. On every match day 2 games will start at 18:55 and remaining 6 at 21. Reason is that more games can be watched by TV viewers.
DeleteOh, thank you!👍
DeleteReally surprising appointments. Sidiropoulos in Camp Nou after a match in Saudi Arabia (Efthimiadis returned in Sidirpoulos' team as 4th), Collum in Monaco after a disastrous match in POR-ITA in fornt of Batta, Makkelie in Belgium (which don't see under Collina). Good luck to all of them!!
ReplyDeleteIt seems we still have the same pattern despite the fact PLC left.
ReplyDeleteCakir will be in charge at Liverpool- PSG. I don't think it's necessary to have such an experience referee for a game like this, in 1st round of CL groups. Ok, in knock-out stage things would be different, an experience referees should be in charge. But now, at the start of the season I can't see the utility.
I remember you that last season Cakir whistled Bayern- PSG in group stage, in a moment when both teams were qualified (and their order in the group was 99% known).
Why is necessary to have important names like Cakir, Kuipers, Mazic etc in this kind of games ? These games should be the perfect opportunity for referees like Marciniak, Hategan, Collum, Makkelie, Kralovec, Sidiropoulos etc. to gain experience. Otherwise we will still have the same problem in the next years: a very limited number of referees who are capable to whistle important games.
I agree with your words, petschovschi.
DeleteCakir appointed for big games in group stage is something we see every year, committee wants that. Personally, I think that it would be good to see some different names, but at the same time we are talking about one of the best FIFA referees ever (if you ask me). I also think that committee has a big feeling of gratitude towards him and these appointments are the result of that. The same for Kuipers.
ReplyDeleteSidiropoulos and Collum are still tested also on the road to Euro 2020, the Scottish should offer a better performance than Portugal - Italy, while the Greek deserved this game after a good EL play off.
Turpin is a strong candidate for EL final this season, if you ask me.
What about CL final, Chefren? the name is known for all of us:) ?
DeleteCL: Skomina
DeleteEL: Marciniak/ Turpin
Yes I agree with Timo, these are my names as well...
DeleteAnd rocchi ?
Delete@Chefren
DeleteNo doubt that Cakir was one of best referees in the world in last 6-7 years. About "one of the best FIFA referees" ever it's hard to say because we didn't have the chance to watch too many referees in the past. For example, how many matches of Palotai (died this year), Rainea or Puhl (and many others) did you ever watch ?
I had a very good opinion about Cakir until this year but I changed it (mainly) after Juventus- Real (game seen from the stadium). In this period Cakir whistle what he wants and when he wants. Example: NO PENALTY in last second of Juventus- Real (clear foul on Cuadrado), PENALTY for Salzburg in Salzburg- Crvena Zvezda. After Juventus- Real, Real- Bayern, Salzburg- Crvena Zvezda and even Argentina- Nigeria I can say he doesn't whistle everything he see but he whistle only what he wants to whistle. As a referee you should whistle what you see, not to filter your decision depending on your own interest. I think it's about a self-preservation approach of Cakir, who doesn't want too many complications in his games. Anyway, after 4 final tournaments (EURO and WC) you should have the decency to say enough. There are also many other referees in this world who wait to whistle important games and tournaments (and they didn't have a Senez Erzik in their careers...)
The great ones from Europe i have in good memory are from late 80's en early 90's,
DeleteJohn Blankenstein (Ned)
Sandor Puhl (Hun)
Joel Quiniou (Fra)
Hellmut Krug (Ger)
Leslie Mottram (Sco)
Manuel Diaz Vega (Spa)
Pierluigi Pairetto (Ita)
Fabio Baldas (Ita)
Bo Karlsson (Swe)
Vasilios Nikakis (Gre)
Ryszard Wojcik (Pol)
Vadim Zhuk (Belaruss)
Nikolay Levnikov (Rus)
Rune Pedersen (Noo)
Kim Milton Nielsen (Den)
Peter Mikkelsen (Den)
Ahmet Cakar (Tur)
I think it's difficult to compare.... but Peter Mikkkelsen was for sure one off time's absolutely topref's he was onle 32 when he got the important WCQ England-Neterlands in early 1993 at Wembkley.....he was only 28 when he was officiating at Euro1988. He Quit way to Early! Sandor Puhl also a realy great one, i personally liked his style......he was the man in charge is final 1994 worldcup Brazil-Italy, and also quarterfinal Italy-Spain, those 2 are the best off there time.
How about Jol, who did the 99/00 final of CL?
DeleteJol was a good ref to, but not in early 90's like Puhl and Mikkelsen, Jol was in the next generation like Collina, Merk ,Frisk, Garcia-Aranda, Poll, Dallas and Urs Meier
DeleteHi all, that's my topic since in the 80th and 90th I was starting refereeing so I loved very much officials of that age.
DeleteDuring 80th, personally I think that best in class was Alexis Ponnet form Belgium, followed by Michel Vautrot (FR), Yoann IGNA (ROM), Peteer KAIZER (NED) Dieter Pauli and Wolker Roth (GER), Luigi AGNOLIN (ITA) Jeol Qioniou (FR), Bruno Galler (SWI), Erik Fredriksson (SWE), Helmut Kohl (AUT) and M. Van Langhenove (BEL). Rainera and Palotai stopped in 1982 so I cannot remembered them even if they have a very important palmares. Missing Spanish, Pourtugesis and English.
In 90th we had a very good generation too: Peter MIKKELSEN (DNK), Sandor PUHL (HUN), Kurt ROETHILINSBERGER (SWI), Aaron SCHIMDHUBER (GER), manuel DIAZ VEGA (SPA), Kim Milton NIELSEN (DNK), John BLANKSTEIN (NED). End of 90th new starts went into the pitch: Collina, Braschi, Merk, Meier and especially Frisk.
Jol officiated Cl final in june 2001
willie collum is a terrible referee red card is cert tonite monaco v athletico
DeleteIMO, that's a good set of appointments.
ReplyDeleteCollum is being tested on an interesting match. In case of a good performance, he could get something bigger this year. Manzano starts his Elite career with a big match and correctly so.
However, Sidiropoulos appointment doesn't feel like a test. Yes Barcelona is there but this match could go to a first group referee. So, in my eyes nothing has changed since last year when he had Chelsea - Qarabaq.
Not sure that it is appropriate to compare Qarabaq and PSV. At least because of history, if not because of quality. Although i think that in later there is also big difference.
DeleteWe can, since PSV has beaten BATE, and they have beaten Qarabach.
DeleteHowever I should say that PSV has a good team this season, against a Barca that did not too well last years. I think an ELITE referee is not a bad choice.
I didn't compare the 2 teams but just the match. In both cases we have a clear favorite.
DeleteProbably, the most important test Sidiropoulos has had since he entered the elite category. He must avoid a crucial mistake and let the match flow as much as he can without showing unnecessary cards.
DeleteOT
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think about that scene. Penalty or not?
https://streamable.com/vq3ho
For sure penalty could have been whistled. Some referees tend to play on when attacker is able to kick the ball and then the contact happens later... in case penalty without card.
Delete100% penalty
DeleteSuper obvious penalty
DeleteDoes anyone have some information about Youth League MD1 referee assignments?
ReplyDeleteKehlet with AARs in the Danish league today - will normally means an EL match Thursday....
ReplyDeleteAlso Mads-Kristoffer Kristoffersen with AARs today...
DeleteI expected first group referees in Belgrade and Brugge. However, I think this is not a good policy. I hoped for referees like Vincic,
ReplyDeleteGozobuyuk, Frankowski, Mazeika, Bebek, Kovacs. New names should get chances, next to the likes of Jug, De Sousa, Buquet, Kulbakov, etc.
They would all make decent ELITE refs, of course.
In serie A game Juventus - Sassuolo, VAR was used for a straight RC to be issued, following a spit by a player from Juventus against the opponent. Referee was informed without rewatching the incident.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUM_Q7pZP0U
However, this incident could have been easily prevented by referee, because the same player a few seconds before had hit the opponent and it was in my opinion a clear violent conduct, referee issued only YC and he was unable to assess properly the incident.
Of course, as a Juve fan, I watched the game. I agree with you, the management of situation was poor. Douglas Costa was nervous because of a (potential) foul not awarded by the referee. After that he reacted in an unprofessional manner and the referee do nothing in order to calm down him. Red card totally deserved. About the referee: I can't say that I like his performance
DeleteThese are the two actions made by player before spitting to opponent:
Deletehttps://streamable.com/52cs8
https://streamable.com/9k57d
YC was issued after that.
For sure an efficient management by referee could have avoided the last act of spitting. If he didn't want to send the player off, at least he could have controlled and calmed him down.
How the hell he interpreted that headbutt as a YC offence... In theory, it was possible in the past (strike in a reckless manner), but under new LOTG stating that every strike in the head while not fighting for the ball should be a RC, that decision is not acceptable both from Chiffi and VAR.
DeleteReally bad management now by de Burgos Bengoetxea and Aguilar Rodríguez (AR1). The AR raised the flag and didn't wait for the situation to end, but de Burgos ignored the call and let the situation finish. The raised flag caused defenders to stop playing and the attacker scored without opposition. Goal was correctly disallowed after 2 minutes of VAR check.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think? Should de Burgos have stopped play after his AR signalled the offense or the way he acted was OK?
He was right to do so. AR was not
DeleteVideo?
DeleteUEFA Youth League MD1:
ReplyDeletehttp://kronikasedziowska.blogspot.com/2018/09/201819-uefa-youth-league-group-stage.html
Antti Munukka observed by Trentalange in Italy for Inter - Tottenham.
Without doubting the impartiality, of course, however at least interesting to see the Dutch referee in Belgium. Don't remember many cases, if any, at the top level. Do you?
ReplyDeleteNijhuis, Napoli - Brugge or so.
DeleteThe exchange program has long been gone at highest level. I see no problems.
Neither do I, but it is still a rarity.
DeleteDel Cerro Grande appointed for Ajax-AEK Athens, according to a local journalist.
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ReplyDeleteSome situations I cut from Ligue 1 Highlights Show, from the last matchday
Schneider (PSG-STÉ)
https://streamable.com/bov6u (Penalty)
Miguelgorry (NCE-REN)
https://streamable.com/i38t4 (Penalty)
Rainville (AMI-LIL)
https://streamable.com/jbu9b (Penalty no1)
https://streamable.com/0e3nv (Penalty no2)
https://streamable.com/i3wij (Penalty no3)
Hamel (Caen-Lyon)
https://streamable.com/iceuv (Penalty)
https://streamable.com/gr2cf (RC:SFP)
https://streamable.com/wr53r (RC:VC)
Wattellier (NAN-REI)
https://streamable.com/mbrnf (Goal Annulled for Offside, by AR1 Aube)
I know some of these are clear and black-white, but I hope they are interesting nonetheless.
Great offside decision
DeleteVery good job Mikael!
DeleteAn other interesting situation was a penalty canceled (simulation) after VAR review in Miguelgorry game
Thank you so much Miakel, for all your contributions on the blog, really appreciated.
DeleteOT
ReplyDeleteCAF has suspended some more referees for match-fixing. Including former AFCON referees Nampiandraza (MAD) and Dembélé (CIV), both for taking bribes of less than 3 000 USD. Between them they officiated at four AFCON championships.
Read more here
http://refereeingworld.blogspot.com/2018/09/caf-has-suspended-15-more-referees.html
Good! Excellent!
DeleteI wish more confederations would follow CAF's example. And investigate, pursue and punish corrupt referee's.
It's how things look like in Belgrade. Absolutely unique atmosfere Team Marciniak and SSC Napoli will encounter today!
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/Troll__Footbal/status/1041979230827896834
Milorad Mažić should know something about that... :)
DeleteThe tunnel is ompletely renewed and it's not that terrifying now :)
DeleteBut the thing it's placed bellow the North stand, where biggest fans and ultras are singing... that's something you can't change (luckily) :)
Massimo Busacca in the stands in Milan.
ReplyDeletehttps://pasteboard.co/HEu095G.png
One thing that is not so clear for me, by your opinion, gentelmans, when we can expect promotion of Vincic and Jug to the ELITE CAT
ReplyDeleteI think Jug is no longer considered. Not sure about Vincic after his Greek episode. He should get some recovery matches and then we'll see.
DeleteSo far poor card management by Turpin. Missed YC for Vertonghen. Not consistent calls
ReplyDeleteFirst booking too harsh IMO.
DeleteNot sure whether the first YC was for the foul itself or not, at first glance it looked like Turpin didn't want to issue a card, then maybe a kind of reaction by player?
Deletehow is sidiropoulos doing?
DeleteOne thing is sure : the card management is absolutely different from the WC
DeleteWhat a complete and total lack of authority shown by Sidoropoulos in the 52nd minute. Misses a foul against Suarez. Then whistles correctly a foul committed by Demebele. However then Demebele in a completely disrespectful manner kicks the ball far away in disgust. And Sidoropoulos fails to punish such a clear and obvious case of dissent by action.
ReplyDeleteYep. Tried to solved it with a verbal warning but IMO YC was mandatory. A minute later the YC was issued to Umtiti for another disrespective gesture ("punch into the air")
DeleteThe entire incident could have been prevented if he had simply correctly whistled the foul committed against Suarez. However it became a case of a missed incident leading to bigger and preventable actions and cards.
DeleteSidiropoulos didn't show second YC to Umtiti?
ReplyDeleteYep. But Umtiti left the pitch himself before the camera caught Sidiropoulos issuing the RC.
DeleteUmtiti seemed to simply walk off the pitch. On the TV feed I saw here. I saw Sidoropoulos pull his yellow out of his pocket. But he never really "showed" it to Umtiti. And at no point did I ever see him pull out and show the Red Card.
DeleteIt looked to me that Sidiropoulos didn't remember that player was already booked, but I can be wrong. Referee was not seen showing RC.
DeleteI saw the YC not only out of his pocket but also shown to Umtiti. Not the RC, because TV camera didn't focus on the referee anymore.
DeleteVideo of the incident: https://streamja.com/0M5A
DeleteVideo doesn't clear up when Sidoropoulos supposedly showed the 2nd yellow followed by the Red Card to Umtiti. If Umtiti was already off the field when Sidoropoulos finally showed the yellow or the red. What a complete lack of respect shown by Umtiti towards Sidoropoulos.
DeleteWhy is it lack of respect? He walked off the field without saying anything because he already knew he would get a red.
DeleteMaybe it's just me Victor. But I'm not a fan of showing cards to backs of players. But you are correct. Umtiti indeed left the pitch without further incident.
Delete2nd YC for Umtiti. Correct decision, even better to call the assistance before issuing the card. No complain.
ReplyDeleteCorrectly disallowed goal by AR1 in Barcelona.
ReplyDeleteGreat offside call from Sidiropoulos' AR1.
ReplyDeleteA good start of 2018-19 CL group stage with two okaysh (at least) performances....
ReplyDeletedo you think sidiropoulos can get more important matches than last year? He got all the crucial decisions right today
DeleteI think so. Let's wait for the next appointment.
DeleteI'm not convinced about Sidiropoulos' performance. It was okay, but not more than that! Indeed, no crucial faults, but he missed some fauls of both teams. Due to his performance the animosity was heating up for a few minutes (about 52'). I think Sidiroopoulos fails to see he is able to handle a more hot CL-game. My opinion: he didn't candidate himself for more important matches today.
DeleteI'm with Erik. Tasos lacks that "extra" that's needed to be trusted with bigger and better things. As Erik said, he himself caused a calm match to become hot, feisty, and combative. At times he seemed overwhelmed, erratic and lost.
DeleteSidiropoulos is not in a good form. His last SL season was average at best and his european one was worst.
DeleteThis year he started, domestically, with a suspension for a crucial mistake on MD1. I think that he has reached his peak and his future is in danger.
Early minutes and I see a very focused Marciniak in Belgrade: at first I think that a foul was called in cooperation with FO, then a few later good advantage following a dangerous play in the midfield.
ReplyDeleteMuch like we saw and despised in Russia. Cakir using the continuous "warnings" against the greco roman wrestling that happens before each and every set play in the penalty area. Continuous warnings that will bring absolutely zero consequences.
ReplyDelete14th min
Delete4th Liverpool corner kick and 4th "warning" by Cakir. Cakir's words and gesticulations have had no effect in stopping the wrestling.
Wrong PK from Gil Manzano, at least it was saved.
ReplyDelete>.<
Minute 14' in Belgrade: penalty appeal for an alleged deliberate hanbdall, replay was not shown so far. Minute 17': correct first YC of the game by Marciniak.
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DeletePK for Liverpool!
ReplyDeleteCorrect for me.
To me correct pk by Cakir for Liverpool.
ReplyDelete+1.
DeleteReplays: https://streamable.com/iy3so
DeleteMinute 36', possible second YC for the player who was already booked, Marciniak showed a YC for dissent against a player from home-team.
ReplyDeleteI think that not showing second YC was a supportable decision.
Missed offside by AR2 before PSG’s goal at 41st min.
ReplyDeleteImo Cavani was in active area and tried to play with the ball.
Missed offside in PSG goal?
ReplyDeleteSPG goal. Offside?
ReplyDeleteWell, another player actively involved in the attack was way offside and the defender might be distracted. The scorer was onside. By law, you can call offside.
Correct YC for Meunier at 45th min.
ReplyDeleteOffside of Cavani is clearly punishable, he tried to play the ball, influencing at least a close defender:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stTkcSZ4clc
There is also a wrong offside for Neymar by AR2 before Liverpool’s first goal
ReplyDeleteCakir is great as usual, but his AR's have a very difficult night.
ReplyDeleteAR2 wrong offside call on Neymar (around 28th min)
AR1 missed offide in the build-up prior to Pool's first goal
PSG's goal should have been cancelled as you discussed it
VAR would be busy tonight for sure...
Did he ever manage to stop all the wrestling in the penalty areas before each and every set piece or corner?
DeleteIf you mean this pass to the build up, not it wasnt offside :D
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Correctly disallowed Liverpool goal by Cakir. Very good help by AAR2. 57th min.
ReplyDeleteFoul by Sturridge to GK.
I am trying to watch 2 games at a time. Very good Rocchi as of 65 mins in Istanbul.
ReplyDeleteYes, excellent in my opinion he got about all right.
DeleteRidicolous penalty in Gelsenkirchen for Porto. Crucial mistake.
ReplyDeleteThe 2nd today. Very bad from Gil Manzano. In general strange free-kick and YC decisions
DeleteIMO wrong penalty from Jesus Gil 75'.
ReplyDeleteCruial mistake by Gil Manzano.
ReplyDeleteOffside call for LIV on 79th min by AR2 is borderline. It might be not offside. Not clear on replay.
ReplyDeleteVery soft contact from Naldo. Best decision so far would have been play on.
ReplyDeleteFor the penalty?
DeleteYep, I mean the 2nd PK whistled by Gil Manzano in Gelsenkirchen.
DeleteThere's a contact, but IMO it's not enough.
for me a clear simulation.
DeleteNot at all for. There's a camera shot in which you can see a soft ankle contact.
DeleteThe thing is, from GilMan's point of view, it's almost in 90°, very very very difficult to spot it, so if there wasn't AR1 intervention (who had the best view), I just wonder why he whistled that PK
So, I hope somebody can bring us the full sequence, including the replay...
DeleteThere was a contact yes. But in my opinion, he didn't fall because of this contact. He went down, because he felt the contact.
DeleteBut yes, at least there shouldn`t be a penalty.
Best video of it I've seen so far: https://streamja.com/PWVl
DeleteAbout the penalty awarded by Jesús Gil Manzano. The first impression was that there was no contact. But from one angle (3 or 4) it became clear that there was a blow to the leg. But it's unclear how the referee could see it.
ReplyDeleteLittle contact by Naldo, but a player with 1.90m/ nearly 100kg standing without problems on his left foot and AFTERWARDS decides to fall... this PK was absolutely ridicolous. The first PK after handball Naldo instead was a soft, but correct call in my view.
ReplyDeleteMarciniak expected level performance. Very good assistant referees.
ReplyDeleteAbout the incidents in Gil Manzano's game: taking a quick look, I think first penalty is OK, second penalty is supportable but better decision there was to play on. Very, very soft contact.
Watching the Porto highlights - am I seeing things or did Naldo for the second PK make the VAR sign to the referee? :D
ReplyDeleteHe's obviously used to playing with VAR in the Bundesliga. There has to come a point where UEFA follows the big leagues in using VAR...
i think Rocchi had 2 critical mistake...
ReplyDeleteCorluca---Red Card
Eder handball---PK
https://streamable.com/nzeg2
The situation with the hit of the ball in the hand was exactly the same as in the case of the first penalty by Gil Manzano.
DeleteVery good game for Turpin.
ReplyDeleteVêtu good game for Cakir but many mistakes with his assistants.
I saw four matches last night
ReplyDelete=> Turpin showed a good performance, okay card criterion maybe wasn't totally uniform, but he managed the match really well. I really like his firm personality. Step closer to EL Final.
=> Satisfactory performance by Sidiropoulos but not more. He was no real leader on the pitch, and his self-presentation wasn't so asssured. I feel sorry for him, all that's happening in Greece, but I this match wasn't a good recommendation for higher tasks in UEFA.
I can't add more to what's already written a propos Çakir and Marciniak.
Watching the images of the game between SCH-OPO I consider that the first PK called by Gil-Manzano it's supportable, instead the second PK is massive error.
ReplyDeleteSome situations I cut from the highlights show
ReplyDeleteÇakır (LIV-PSG)
https://streamable.com/6hyti (Penalty)
https://streamable.com/pxl5w (Missed Offside, 2-1)
https://streamable.com/a3dfi (Annuled Goal)
Sidiropoulos (BAR-PSV)
https://streamable.com/zfhgk (YC:Dissent)
https://streamable.com/ndxw9 (2xYC->RC)
Gil Manzano (SCH-POR)
https://streamable.com/faee9 (Penalty)
https://streamable.com/xju9w (Penalty vs Simulation?)
Rocchi (GAL-LOK)
https://streamable.com/2uy55 (2xYC->RC)
https://streamable.com/2uy55 (Penalty)
Collum (MON-ATL)
https://streamable.com/7nciu (Penalty? Simulation?)
Makkelie (BRU-DOR)
https://streamable.com/36bmm (Penalty?)
And interesting situation for RAP
https://streamable.com/2vg9o (Accidental contact whilst blocking on the floor vs jumping to block the ball with the hands)
Against most of the comments here, I find that the first penalty by Gil Manzano is the crucial mistake and the second one is soft but supportable. In the first situation, the ball doesn't come directly from the throw in, it is slightly deflected by a defender which is far too close to the "offending" player to give him time to react. Also, I think the hands are in a pretty much natural position (close to the body, and also in a normal position for a jumping header) and that the movement is ball-hand, not the other way around (the arm moves away from the ball, as per Mikael's video 3rd replay). That means it is not an invasive handball to me. So, 0/3 and that's why I think it is a crucial mistake.
ReplyDeleteOn the second, there is a slight touch on the right foot of the player while that leg is still in the air, which makes him to step differently and to lose balance. Is it enough? I have my doubts, but I don't see a clear mistake there.
Sorry, not sure what happened this morning, but I think I managed to delete two videos of Gil Manzano
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/l4amo (Penalty no1)
https://streamable.com/8mqk3 (Penalty, no2)
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@Chefren, is the automated blogger spam detector working on the videos I posted? I think it might be, they got 'lost' twice. In case, if you delete all the rest of my comments, it saves me taking up too much comments space. Regards.
Yes Mikael sorry, your comments had Been marked as Spam by Blogger. I fixed them now. When you notice that you send a message but it Doesn't appear, well that's the reason. Just wait, when I'm online, I Fix it. Comments are not deleted but Just "suspended". Thank you for all these videos.
DeleteRocchi (2xYC->RC) video is wrongly linked.
DeleteApologies, crucial mistake from me ;-)
DeleteRocchi (GAL-LOK)
https://streamable.com/2uy55 (2xYC->RC)
Of course, no problem about the posts, thank you for your quick response!
Sorry Mikaeal, I still see only the penalty in this link...
Deletehttps://streamable.com/6yg82
Delete7,4 for me...
The video posted by Mikaeal shows that Sidiropoulos at least didn't remember immediately that Umtiti had been already booked, otherwise he would have shown the RC after the second YC without hesitation.
ReplyDeleteIt is not nice to see that player goes out when referee has not still shown the RC.
Surely better for the player to show good sportsmanship and walk off rather than staying on the pitch when they shouldn't be there?
DeleteYes. I'm confused by the argument here. Why do we want a player to stay when he know he's been dismissed? Staying can only lead to dissent or--in a worst case scenario--the referee not realizing it is a second caution. A player who leaves immediately once he knows the second caution is being produced is doing everyone a favor.
DeleteI saw Cakir's performance now. Disappointing. I have seen him so much better... Empty gestures = warnings without consequences and no clear bodylanguage, his charisma lost - I think he was feeling that his assistants were really bad and that minimalized his own presence on the field.
ReplyDeleteI thought he had a fine game. Got all the decisions correct as well as control a very frantic match. Good strength to listen to AAR and cancel the goal. Only mistakes were from linesman. Not much more can be asked from a main ref.
DeleteSurely better for the player to show good,I still see only the penalty in this,
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