Referee appointments for 2020-21 UEFA Champions League Group Stage, Matchday 2. Games to be played on 28 October 2020.
28 October 2020
18:55 CET - Krasnodar (Stadium Krasnodar)
FC Krasnodar (RUS) - Chelsea FC (ENG) | Group EReferee: Ali Palabıyık (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Ceyhun Sesigüzel (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Serkan Olguncan (TUR)
Fourth Official: Arda Kardeşler (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Bos (NED)
18:55 CET - Istanbul (İstanbul Başakşehir Fatih Terim Stadyumu)
İstanbul Başakşehir FK (TUR) - Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) | Group HReferee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Hallberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Fourth Official: Kristoffer Karlsson (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoechea (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Frank De Bleeckere (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Haris Gvozden (BIH)
21:00 CET - Seville (Estadio Ramón Sánchez-Pizjuán)
Sevilla FC (ESP) - Stade Rennais FC (FRA) | Group EReferee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Igor Radojičić (SRB)
21:00 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - S.S. Lazio (ITA) | Group FReferee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gari Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Paul Tierney (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Lee Betts (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Antonov (MDA)
UEFA Delegate: Balász Makray (HUN)
21:00 CET - Dortmund (BVB Stadion)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - Football Club Zenit (RUS) | Group FReferee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin E. J. Zeinstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingvarsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Tormod Larsen (NOR)
21:00 CET - Budapest (Ferencváros Stadion)
Ferencvárosi Torna Club (HUN) - FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) | Group GReferee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaš Somolani (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Boris Marhefka (SVK)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bibiana Steinhaus (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stavros Tritsonis (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell Zor (SVN)
21:00 CET - Turin (Juventus Stadium)
Juventus (ITA) - FC Barcelona (ESP) | Group GReferee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Kevin Blom (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate:Kris Bellon (BEL)
21:00 CET - Manchester (Old Trafford)
Manchester United FC (ENG) - RB Leipzig (GER) | Group HReferee:
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Grega Kordež (SVN)
Fourth Official:
Video Assistant Referee: José María Sánchez Martínez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Matej Jug (SVN) Bas Nijhuis (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Haim Jakov (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Peadar Ryan (IRL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Haim Jakov (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Peadar Ryan (IRL)
Kuipera maybe replacement for someone due to travel reatrictions?
ReplyDeleteI think Kuipers was a replacement last week, there he had a different VAR team than usual.
DeleteMakkelie with Blom as VAR, Kamphuis punished for last week?
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DeleteKamphuis not appointed with the Dutch crews after Manchester City - Porto, let's see whether he is in another game or not. This could be the signal of the assessment by committee regarding the penalty by Treimanis.
ReplyDeleteI think, Makray and Antonov should be swapped. 🤔
ReplyDeleteVladimir Antonov is delegate UEFA? Brugge - Lazio
ReplyDeleteMany mixed teams and replacements, it is not easy for UEFA...
ReplyDeleteMost interesting question is why was Marciniak appointed as VAR twice in first two matchdays and did not get a single match as referee? Is he maybe injured? I doubt he is being punished for something because in that case he would not get even those VAR appointments. Interesting to see Turkish referees with non-Turkish VARs but Turkish AVARs-that is very strange IMO.
ReplyDeleteIMO it's clearly a punishment as he handled a game in Poland on Saturday. But we have to admit his blunders in last two games were unacceptable and shouldn't happen at UEFA level at all.
DeleteEasy to find an answer about Marciniak status, he is not injured, as he has been appointed in Ekstraklasa two days ago.
DeleteI think he will officiate in Europa League on Thursday, skipping CL MD1 and MD2 due to previous performances. To be honest, the missed RC was definitely something too blatant to keep eyes closed, then the penalty in Kyiv to follow (in this case, mostly VAR fault).
Maybe the game for him in EL will be in Spain.
Could be but IMO there is no logic in appointing him as VAR two consecutive matchdays if he is punished. But at the moment, punishment seems like most logical explanation.
DeleteMaybe UEFA is trying various combinations referee-VAR to see how they would work at Euro?
DeleteSzymon sędziował w sobote mecz polskiej ekstraklasy więc kontuzja nie wchodzi w gre
ReplyDeleteSo many mixed appointment from UEFA, not easy for them
ReplyDeleteGreat appointment for Makkelie. Just one question about the appointment of the FO's. In case of Makkelie, Allard Lindhout has been appointed in this top clash. Is this wise of UEFA? He is new on the list, definitely a promising referee but having little experience. Just one EL Preliminary match. Shouldn't UEFA appoint somebody with more experience in EL Group stage for example? Just in case of?
ReplyDeleteOne can imagine what would happen if the scenario of a injury with Makellie during the match is there and Lindhout makes a crucial decision with a lot of discussion about it afterwards. Whether the call was right or not.
To make myself clear, this question is not to critism Lindhout which I personally think is a young and very promising referee. But just on the strategy and choices of UEFA.
Indeed, the risk could be avoided by putting Kevin Blom as 4o, he is a verry experienced referee, only no fifa badge for him anymore, and Lindhout in VAR, not even a teamchange, same team only different roles, Lindhout is a VAR in the Neteherlands to.
DeleteThis is a clear lack of foresight by UEFA, they clearly don't plan for Referees getting injured during the warmup or during the game. I remember last season a big champions league game handled by Taylor and I think the 4th official was David Coote or someone like that who didn't even have a FIFA badge at the time.
DeleteSeems like a difficult time for UEFA's appointments. Referee teams from different countries even on the pitch. While the 'big countries' have a lot of referees, ARs and VARs to swap in case of necessary replacements, it seems to be tougher with smaller countries (Kruzliak, SVK; Ekberg, SWE).
ReplyDeleteBibiana Steinhaus with her debut as AVAR in CL, if I'm not wrong. Not too surprising as she is a specialised VAR in Germany now.
Great match for Slavko Vincic, really good test
ReplyDeleteOh no! Where are the Italians?!?
ReplyDeleteIrrati.
DeleteAhaha, if you look carefully you’ll find one :)
DeleteMaybe Rosetti withdrew Guida and the other Italians foreseen for this week after having studied Mikael's post. 😏
DeleteAs a matter of fact, Massa's performance in Chelsea-Sevilla was brilliant. Treimanis, Scharer, Jovanovic and so on made errors last week and VAR intervention was often needed.
DeleteI'm not saying that Italian referees are better: Treimanis and Scharer have a huge talent, but their experience cannot be compared to that of Massa, Guida, Mariani etc. who have been officiating top matches in Serie A for years. We also can't deny that Italian referees are having a fast-track to Elite, and maybe this is not fair.
What I mean is that we should focus more on performances, not on the names.
Hopefully this blog isn't making that much impact. Otherwise, commentators (including anonymous ones) can use it to destroy some referees and promote others.
DeleteHad the same thoughts as Marrkoo. No important mistakes whatsoever in Schärer’s match last week. Remarkable example therefore.
DeleteWhere are the Italians? Thursday in UEL :)
DeleteEredivisie: Vitesse - PSV
ReplyDeleteReferee: Bas Nijhuis / VAR: Danny Makkelie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__GDxlvn-DM&t=658
Big discussion in the Netherlands. Nijhuis gave penlty because he thought it was a two-handed pushing, and Makkelie intervened that it was not a two-handed pushing. Nijhuis who saw the video canceled panlty because it was different from what he saw.
Many opinions in the Netherlands: It's a too easy given penalty, but it's not a clear and obvious error.
Post-match description of Nijhuis: The reason for the decision was wrong.
Protocol says: The original decision given by the referee will not be changed unless the video review clearly shows that the decision was a 'clear and obvious error'.
I think that the mistake of the decision reason and the error of the decision itself are different, but what about?
Correct VAR intervention, it was a clear and obvious error.
DeleteThis is football, not basketball. Not every contact is a foul.
IMO it is a correct VAR intervention, as the pushing is way too light and therfore does not justify a penalty.
DeleteI am pretty sure that Nijhuis had a wrong perception and then it is absolutely understandle to rewatch the incident and to change the decision.
Thanks replies.
DeleteI understand the opinion that this contact is not foul. However, in the operation of VAR in Eredivisie, many people feel that this is an acceptable penalty decision. (Of course, you can think that the judgment of VAR was wrong so far.)
In any case, even if the referee had a wrong perception, it is expected that the decision will not be finally corrected unless there is a clear and obvious error.
You forget to mention some aspects on this situation Anass.
DeleteIn the first place Bas Nijhuis himself stated that when he heard that there existed no pushing with two hands (= wrong perception) he ordered to see the situation himself. This is perfectly accounted for in the protocol.
After seeing the situation at the monitor he assessed his original decision as a clear error, saying he would never give such a penalty. That’s why he annulled his initial decision.
In the meantime the Dutch football association has already confirmed that these course of events is totally OK, and no penalty is a correct decision.
This just to add to the incomplete representation of the affairs.
I understand that VAR can intervene and referee can review the video due to the himself wrong perception. But in order to see the video and correct the decision, it must be a clear and obvious error, right?
DeleteFrankly, I don't know the rule rationale for the referee to correct the decision based on not "whether clear and obvious error" buit "whether his perception was wrong". This is why it is controversial in the Netherlands.
Why "pushing with two hands" is mentioned? When judging a pushing, does it make any difference whether a pushing is done with one or two hands?
DeleteIt does matter when there is no pushing with hands, not with one and not with two :)
DeleteAnass if this helps you with your rationale when it comes to clear and obvious... The bulk of it lies on the perception of the referee and what he has seen, that really constitutes towards the clear and obvious when the communication between the referee and his VAR are not aligned. For example the above sceberio cannot be scene as a clear and obvious error to we the viewers and hence it can be supported but the bulk of the load was what the referee thought he saw which the VAR told him was not what happened hence underlining or rather constituting a clear and obvious error from the referee... If the referee had seen that it was only one hand that was used in the pushing and that is what he communicated to his VAR, then no matter how minimal it was the penalty would have stood and hence no intervention. I hope this helps out
DeleteAre you saying that the OFR was justified by the fact that the push was with one hand, not with two hands? It is either pushing or no pushing, regardless of how many hands were used.
DeleteDank u wel, Chiagozie.
DeleteEven if the decision is the same in the exact same situation, if whether it is a clear and error or not depends "what the referee watches", then it will be very difficult for the viewers...
Thanks to everyone else for their opinions!
Elite referees without CL games after MD1 and MD2:
ReplyDeleteAytekin (injured), Collum, del Cerro Grande, Karasev (COVID), Královec, Kulbakov, Marciniak, Zwayer.
Some of them will appear on Thursday in EL games, I guess.
2-3 days ago Karasev was reported to be tested negative and fully recovered. So, we expect him to be back soon.
DeleteOff-topic: Eskov announced that he stops his career. Surely, it is a consequence of what happened on Matchday 1 of RPL.
del Cerro Grande, Kralovec and Zwayer already got a EL game last week. I expect Collum, Kulbakov and Marciniak in EL (Real Sociedad - Napoli?)
DeleteVery good news about Karasev, and let me add, FULL SOLIDARITY to Eskov. I'm really sorry because he is about to leave refereeing, but I really understand his choice. He was on focus by UEFA a few time ago.
DeleteDid anyone watch Kulbakov recently? I underatnd why Marciniak, Zwayer, Collum and Kralovec in Europa League but not sure if I remember Del Cerro and Kulbakov did something very wrong not to be appointed in Champions League.
DeleteMaybe Kuipera is replacement for Kulbakov? We will see tomorrow....
DeleteAgain Kuipera, sorry it is my mobile phone ;)
DeleteMarciniak is VAR
DeleteAppointments - Bundesliga Germany
ReplyDeleteMatchday 5:
26th October
20:30 Bayer Leverkusen - FC Augsburg
Sören Storks - Thorben Siewer - Philipp Hüwe - Marcel Pelgrim [Felix Brych - Markus Schüller]
Matej Jug replaces Slavko Vincic as main referee in Manchester-Leipzig according to uefa.com.
ReplyDeleteAnd Bas Nijhuis replaces Jug as AVAR.
DeleteAlmost two years! At that time, he was ahead of Vincic, now he only replaces him.
DeleteFound no news regarding this replacement in Slovenian media. Interesting to see Jug with a more sonorous clash than Skomina, no doubt ...
DeleteQuite remarkable, that Jug is even slightly younger than Vincic and reached CL level much earlier, but Vincic overtook him nevertheless and became the second Slovenian Elite referee.
DeleteThere probably aren't many other examples, where that happened.
This maybe tells us that fourth officials are not there to replace the onfield referee if he gets injured I think....
DeleteThere must be rules for that; it cannot be left up to interpretation for each match...
DeleteUEFA Delegate: Igor Radojičić (SRB) is former Mazić assistant referee?
ReplyDeleteIt seems so.
DeleteYea, then Milovan Ristic replaced him. Now he is observer in Serbia.
DeleteIt will be a tough night for Jug given the rough play of the English side and the Germans
ReplyDeleteFormer FIFA referee and UEFA development, still active in the Norwegian top league, Tom Harald Hagen, has come out as gay. This happened the day after he refereed a game where a player used a homophobic slur.
ReplyDeleteMuch appreciation for this step. It is very important that players, coaches, referees, officials come out. Although you may argue that it is part of private life, things become only normal if everyone understands that it's normal to be straight as well as to be gay. Actually, it's just a matter-of-fact, a matter of statistics that there are a lot of players and referees who are gay but don't come out. I really hope some of them decide to do it like Tom Harald Hagen or Pascal Erlachner in Switzerland.
DeleteI agree.
DeleteNerd observation: In the 16 matches of MD1, all 4 kit colours were worn in 4 matches each.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore Sidiropoulos was the first referee to wear black in a CL match since del Cerro Grande on 27/11/19.
Am I the only one who thinks Marciniak is a very poor referee in general? He is full of mistakes in literally every game I’ve seen him ref except Atlético vs Leipzig he was okay and also the EL one I forgot the fixture...
ReplyDeleteNo I completely agree with you. I would even add that it is not only on the pitch but he makes many mistakes as a VAR as well.
DeleteI don't agree.
DeleteHere are some games that I have watched live on TV with Marciniak as the referee.
DeleteAtlético vs Liverpool: had an absolute disastrous night, gave a throw in to Atlético when it should’ve been Liverpool’s, this led to their goal, couldn’t cope with the pressure of the Spanish players, missed so many fouls and gave Lodi every time he went down, some terrible decisions.
Fair play to him for realising his mistakes and cautioning lodi for simulation in the next game against Leipzig.
PSG vs Liverpool: Again couldn’t handle the pressure and play acting from the PSG players. Missed a clear Stonewall red card for Verrati for a high challenge on Gomez. Then refused to give Liverpool the clearest penalty after the challenge by Di Maria on Mane, he only gave it after his 5th official behind the goal told him. Couldn’t cope with the pressure in the second half. All round disastrous game.
Spain vs England: as an England fan he missed a clear pull pack by Pickford on the Spanish player. Could’ve easily been a penalty. Fair play to him for sticking to his decision though 😅
Real Madrid 1-1 Tottenham: missed a penalty for Casemiro foul on Llorente.
Juventus vs Tottenham: missed the clearest penalty 🤣 Vertinghen on Douglas costa.
World Cup 2018
Germany vs Sweden: somehow failed to spot the clear DOGSO by Boateng on Berg. Didn’t give Sweden the penalty nor did he send off Boateng. He later did send him off for a second caution.
I’ve given enough examples. I can’t be bothered to think of any more 😂😭
Are you Liverpool fan ? Because I see a huge pain
DeleteNo I support Arsenal actually, what’s that got to do with anything? I am a passionate football fan and passionate referee!
DeleteI support the right decision being made in every game and I support those who are capable of making such decisions!
Very very poor performance by Giacomelli in Milan-Roma clash
ReplyDelete2 more than soft PK awarded for both teams
Question is: was VAR right in supporting referee in both situations? Very interesting, however two wrong penalties in a few minutes and maybe a third one missed.
DeleteMy god, two terrible decisions!! The first foul (step on foot) is clearly made by the attacker! And the second one is just to compensate for the first. Sorry, but this is nothing less than laughable. Especially when we place this (and the performance of Calvarese in Atalanta-Sampdoria) in the context of the article Mikael wrote a couple of days ago.........
Delete« And italian referees are clearly better than little countries refs because of very difficult intensity in Italy ». Of course...not. Thanks M. Giacomelli for your help in this discussion...
Delete@Frenchref, I think nobody talked about Giacomelli as a good Italian ref ;)
DeleteNo, but he is part of the Italian refereeing, whose representatives start their UEFA career one step higher than the vast majority among other advantages. Giacomelli and Calvarese do not only represent themselves, as private persons, but the Italian refereeing.
DeleteShameful and illogic statement. It's as if all French referees trip players like Mr. Chapron
DeleteAnd the quality of Italian referees over time is undeniable: Collina, Rosetti and Rizzoli only in the last 20 years. I don't remember any French referee whistling just a CL final in the last 30 years.
DeleteI'm in doubt for the first one but at second (no) penalty for sure it has to call the referee for a ofr
ReplyDeleteLa liga: Levante-Celta
ReplyDeleteMelero Lopez disallowed crucial goal in 93' after OFR for offside, he assessed that attacking team player influenced the game in offside.
Based on the fact that he wasnt between the gk and the ball and on the recent explanation from UEFA observer from Croatia that new UEFA instructions are that goals are disallowed only if there is evidence that the player influenced the situation, I would say that it was a wrong decision.
Your opinion?
https://www.goalstube.online/levante-celta-de-vigo
DeleteI agree with you, and to be honest I don’t think this is the most difficult situation. The attacker is clearly not in the goalkeeper’s line of vision, doesn’t make an action for the ball and doesn’t challenge the goalkeeper for the ball.
DeleteIn my opinion clearly a goal should have been awarded.
Very difficult situation. For me a goal should have been awarded, but I would't say this is a crucial mistake.
DeleteWe should remember that the questions "would the goalkeeper have saved the ball if the offside attacker wasn't there" and "has the attacker (actually) committed an active offside offence" are different, and perhaps result in different answers.
DeleteI agree with Forlan - Melero López should have had the confidence to change his decision when his original perception and the video footage gave him different impressions. It is this contrast between what Melero (quite understandably) THOUGHT happened and what did happen that make the situation very tricky [Melero's perception: offside attacker, goalkeeper's poor attempt to save, goalkeeper's reaction afterwards]. But perhaps one could expect a top level referee from eg. Spain to be good enough to overcome that.
Another very (if you ask me, more) interesting situation to this effect happened in Arsenal - Leicester yesterday evening :)
@Mikael W: Do you mean the disallowed goal for Arsenal in 4th minute? Wasn’t that just an “interfering with play by touching the ball”?
Delete@Mikael W
DeleteI agree completely
Regarding Ars-Lei, you think it could be possible to "sell" no offside decision??
Honestly if we begin to disallow goals for this, it becomes absorbed to me, any form of distraction that the goalkeeper might have gotten came from the deflection from his own player and not the Levante player in an offiside position who was quite trying to get away and avoid the ball. The lack of good catch from the goalie was simply as a result of the deflection. Truth be told another referee would have changed the decision because quite clearly the VAR thought otherwise that's why OFR occurred.
DeleteVary interesting situation. It's difficult to accept the decision but it's offside. He isn't blocking line of vision but he is near to him, inside goal area and by his movement he is obstructing the GK. Good decision for me
ReplyDeleteHow is he obstructing the GK by his movement? He’s even moving away from both GK and ball. Being near according to the laws doesn’t make an attacker punishable for offside.
DeleteFor me this was a very clear and easy offside call to make. The player was in a offside position weather he obstructed the keeper or not for me is irrelevant
DeleteOT:
ReplyDeleteConsidering the worldwide impact that Covid-19 has had. Are players allowed to play while wearing face coverings?
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Funny,but seems like my prediction was right, I was only wrong about the role. Pavel Gil appointed in Liverpool and then day after in Manchester - he replaces Asmir Sagrković as fourth official. Very difficult times for Committee - we have referees from four different countries appointed for Manchester-Leipzig (Referee trio from Slovenia, Fourth official from Poland, VAR from Spain, AVAR from Netherlands).
ReplyDeleteI do not think that the UEFA Referees Committee makes the appointments, but rather the administration (UEFA Refereeing Unit).
DeleteVery good beginning by Ekberg, very focused. One correct YC after 2 minutes.
ReplyDeleteI didn't have chance to watch Krasnodar-Chelsea, Ali Palabiyik, two penalties? Were they correct? Any other notes?
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't a penalty VAR had a look at it.
ReplyDeletePalabiyik: both penalties are correct in my opinion, maybe in occasion of the first, one could say more "supportable" (in case of play on I think VAR wouldn't have invited him to rewatch), however overall a very positive impression by Turkish, no major issues in the game.
ReplyDeleteHe might be next elite after Cakir.
DeleteThe 2nd PK decision leaves a lot of doubt IMO. Extremely short distance and the ball initially hits the player thigh and then hits the arm/hand that is in a "natural" position, not at or above shoulder level.
DeleteBut I am no longer surprised by anything that is or isn't called "handling". As they've continuously tweaked the handling interpretation rule to the point that we're left guessing most of the time.
For me also the second penalty is more doubtful than the first one - however I wouldn't call it a clear mistake anyway.
DeleteYeah I'm no longer wasting any time and or effort trying to decipher what handling is or isn't. As there is zero uniformity and or consistency in the decisions that are made. It differs from league to league and from match to match. Sometimes even in the same match you get wo different decisions on similar incidents.
DeleteGood offside call by AR1 in Turin disallowing a goal scored by Juventus.
ReplyDeleteVAR intervention and penalty in Club Brugge - Lazio, it was for holding,
ReplyDeleteTaylor had missed it. A very clear one, otherwise VAR wouldn't have intervened. Good work by English VAR, this was very evident.
Funniest part of this is that it is the same Stuart Attwell that was VAR in the Chelsea vs Man untd and yet failed to intervene in a blatant choke slam from Maguire on Chelsea's Captain
DeleteIt's great to see consistency from English referee's ;)
DeleteOnly thing I will say is Stuart Attwell looked at that Maguire incident and didn't interpret it as a clear and obvious error by Martin Atkinson.
DeleteWhich makes the whole entire incident even worse.
DeleteWould also have been a quite clear foul by the defender at the same time...
ReplyDeleteTwo correctly disallowed goals by AR1 due to offside (both for Juventus), correct YC in 45+3 minute by Makkelie. IMO easy first half for Makkelie.
ReplyDeleteNow the third disallowed goal this time by VAR, still extremely tight offside, I don't know how much AR2 can be blamed for having missed it live...
DeleteIMO it was very difficult for AR to see that offside live.
DeleteYes, it was not easy to detect it live. However, I'm a bit surprised about how much time VAR needed to tell Makkelie about the offside position. It was not as close as in Manchester in first half. Should have taken less time.
DeleteAgreed, Philipp. I actually thought the penalty was given for the foul and not for the handball.
ReplyDeleteThird goal disallowed for Juventus due to offside, this time after VAR intervention. Correct decision, very tight offside difficult to detect for AR2.
ReplyDeleteInteresting fact - all three disallowed goals have been scored by same player Morata.
Delete75 minute correct YC for simulation for Juventus player by Makkelie.
ReplyDeletePossible 2-0 in Manchester, VAR check, I think that player was in his own half.
ReplyDeleteAR2 raised the flag...
It is a goal
DeleteExtremely tight offside/no offside decisions in Manchester today. Very difficult for both ARs.
DeleteYeah but one AR got it spot on the other blew it big time
DeleteThe player was in his own half of the field and the AR raised his flag? OMG, That's beginner's stuff not FIFA level.
DeleteDid you watch the game? Obviously not as it was a question of centimeters or even millimeters. Nothing to blame AR2 for.
DeleteDuhhhh obviously. And yeah there's a lot to blame AR2 for that was not even that close he was onside by at least 3 yards
DeleteI hope, that VAR had better pictures than the TV audience to really prove that no part of the foot was in the opponent's half.
DeleteThere is everything to blame AR2 for, not for thinking it was offiside but goodness gracious the wait and see Technique in such situations is what all AR does even if you are extremely sure, thank goodness for Jug who withheld blowing his whistle but his flag definitely influenced some players there
DeleteRe comments by wwjd,the comments before by Ref_1707 were accurate, it was millimeters, to say at least 3 yards is a total lie, of course the assistant should have held his flag and no one will realise that more than that assistant
DeleteA couple match days off should send a clear message to this and other AR's who use such poor technique and make such infantile mistakes.
DeletePersonally I would consider it a blessing for this blog if you would be a couple of match days off, saving us from your poor blogging behavior and infantile negativism.
Delete+1
DeleteAnonymous,
DeleteI would agree with you, but then we would both be wrong. Cheers!
If in doubt, the AR is expected to give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team - that has been FIFA instruction before VAR and now with VAR; nothing new. Very surprising that an AR raised the flag in such close situation!
Delete^^^^This Anonymous^^^^ I completely and totally agree with your point of view. Even without VAR, the flag should have never gone up. With VAR, no excuse for AR raising his flag.
DeleteCorrect penalty by Kuipers in Dortmund.
ReplyDeleteCorrect penalty for Dortmund by Kuipers !
ReplyDeleteCorrect 2nd yellow card for Kyiv by Kruzliak
ReplyDeleteBut also straight RC quite possible there.
DeleteSecond YC is correct.
DeleteCorrect 2nd YC by Makkelie in 85th minute for Juventus.
ReplyDeleteStone cold penalty in Manchester
ReplyDeleteSteamroller defense = Easy PK decision for Makkelie
ReplyDeleteNow penalty by Makkelie, foul started outside, and ended inside the box. Very quick whistle by Makkelie, apart from AR2 missed offside, we saw a faultless performance by the Dutch again, especially regarding disciplinary control. What I like more is that all are very clear situations and all people agree, no room for any single and small criticism. This is superb if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteI've always been instructed that holding can continue from outside to inside the penalty area, but other fouls cannot. What is the argument that this foul "continues?" Because the defender falls onto the attacker in the area, correct? But the actual foul contact is outside the penalty area.
DeleteI don't know. I think there is little debate about this one because it was so late in the match and irrelevant to the outcome. But I'm actually a bit surprised there was not an objective VAR review to change this to a free kick.
Quite surprised by this view to be honest. What you describe as “the defender falling onto the attacker” I simply consider a walking over the attacker. So apart from a foot contact, despite which the attacker can still enter the penalty area, there’s a very clear push/walk into opponent inside.
DeleteNever ever should a VAR intervene in this situation IMO.
Any foul, except handball, can "continue". Regardless, the falling of the defender on the attacker is the actual foul penalized by the penalty kick.
DeleteNow correct penalty for Barcelona in 90th minute. Lot of crucial decissions in Juventus-Barcelona, IMO all correct. But, despite so much crucial calls I would dare to say easy match for Makkelie because all decisions, at least for him, were very easy and obvious.
ReplyDeleteThat's because all were very clear situations, but "clear" doesn't mean always "easy" in my opinion. True that you have to expect that from an Elite referee, but how many mistakes we saw in even more obvious situations? I'm still impressed by Makkelie and his skills, immediately deciding for something - not being afraid of taking decisions. Being mentally so "far" but at the same time so "close" to players. That's not common.
DeleteI agree with you, maybe I should use clear insted of easy decisions ;)
DeleteBut I agree with you, superb performance by Makkelie tonight once again.
As Chefren said superb performance by Makkelie tonight, absoultely every call was correct - foul detection, card management, match control, crucial decisions...
ReplyDeleteConsidering that he is "only" 37 and he could be active for next 10 years in international competitions, if he will continue with performances like this tonight, Makkelie has a great chance to become one of the greatest referees ever.
Exactly, he goes in a stride that is elegant!!
DeleteCongratulations, Makkelie!
DeleteBecause the foul was reckless? But yes, he seemed to give it for the handball.
ReplyDeleteNot a big fan of Makkelie.
ReplyDeleteI always said that his style is way too lenient, not consistent enough and so, so on.
Tonigjt, this was one of the better performances I have ever seen.
I was absolutely amazed by him tonigt and I hope that some other refs will give us same type of this high level performance.
Former Scottish FIFA referee in the mid 70 to mid 90 David Syme passed away after a short illness. Among his major matches were 2 Scottish Cup Finals, 3 League cup finals, 19 Rangers v Celtic games, the final of the FIFA U20 Cup in 1986 Brazil v Spain in the USSR and over 90 appointments in FIFA and UEFA tournaments. RIP DAVID
ReplyDeletePredictions for next week:
ReplyDeleteLokomotiv-Atletico: Bastien
Salzburg-Bayern: Massa
Donetsk-Gladbach: Oliver
Real-Inter: Turpin
Porto-Marseille: Gil Manzano
ManCity-Olympiacos: del Cerro Grande
Atalanta-Liverpool: Mateu Lahoz
Midtjylland-Ajax: Stieler
Chelsea-Rennes: Zwayer
Sevilla-Krasnodar: Gözübüyük
Zenit-Lazio: Cakir
Brügge-Dortmund: Sidiropoulos
Barcelona-Dynamo: Kabakov
Ferencvaros-Juventus: Brych
Basaksehir-ManUnited: Soares Dias
Leipzig-Paris: Orsato
No Marciniak?
DeleteAfter no match on MD1/2, I am assuming, he will start with a match in Europa League.
DeleteBut yes, also CL is not impossible and in that case, I would use him in Zenit-Lazio and rest Cakir.
We will see but, I think he could come back :)
DeleteI don’ t believe that he is punishment, because He was referee in EURO Qualification match: Hungary-Bulgarian which is important, we will see on next gameweek
DeleteI saw Jug the first time with the complete game. He needed VAR to correct a wrong offside call before the second Manu goal, but I am really impressed by him. Very clear, very consistent line of card management and foul detection, good body language and authority. Fully respected by players. Compliments, I hope to see him more often.
ReplyDeleteYeah but that's on his AR2. Jug smartly didn't blow his whistle so that VAR could intervene
DeleteJug is a good referee; never understood why he was overlooked in the last 4-5 years...
ReplyDeleteHe looks a bit fat.
DeleteWell, he did get tricked by a player (and therefore he gave YC to a random player instead of a player for whom it would be 2YC). That is absolutely unacceptable in the group stage of a European club competition.
DeleteWhat minute? Do you have a video?
DeleteMe neighter...he is calm, with great decision, he likes that the game flows.
ReplyDeleteanonymus, he looks, but he isn’t. He is one of the most athletic referee with great stamina.
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