Tuesday, 6 November 2018

Champions League 2018/19 - Referee Appointments - Matchday 4 (I)

The following officials will be in charge of Wednesday's Champions League MD4 games.  Thanks to H_demboveac on twitter for the appointments. 

Group A
6 November 2018, 18:55 CET - Monaco (Stade Louis II)
AS Monaco FC (FRA) - Club Brugge (BEL)
Referee: Artur Manuel Ribeiro Soares Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Licínio Barbosa Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Alexandre dos Santos Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: Bruno Miguel de Campos Rodrigues (POR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hugo Filipe Ferreira de Campos Moreira Miguel (POR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: João Pedro da Silva Pinheiro (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Zbigniew Przesmycki (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Giórgos Fandáros (CYP)

Group C
6 November 2018, 18:55 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
FK Crvena zvezda (SRB) - Liverpool FC (ENG)
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Paulius Malžinskas (LTU)
UEFA Delegate: Teuvo Holopainen (FIN)

Group A
6 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Madrid (Wanda Metropolitano)
Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Lorenzo Manganelli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Fabiano Preti (ITA)
Fourth Official: Giorgio Peretti (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Marco Guida (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Paolo Silvio Mazzoleni (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Karl Espen Eriksen (NOR)

Group B
6 November 2018, 21:00 CET - London (Wembley Stadium)
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) - PSV Eindhoven (NED)
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomáš Somoláni (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Fourth Official: Tomáš Mókoš (SVK)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Peter Kráľovič (SVK)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Filip Glova (SVK)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Messner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: István Huszár (HUN)

Group B
6 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) - FC Barcelona (ESP)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Radosław Siejka (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Bernd Barutta (GER)

Group C
6 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Naples (Stadio San Paolo)
SSC Napoli (ITA) - Paris Saint-Germain (FRA)
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin Zeinstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Charles Schaap (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Dennis Johan Higler (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Alan McRae (SCO)

Group D
6 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragão)
FC Porto (POR) - FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS)
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Mauro Tonolini (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Fourth Official: Alberto Tegoni (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kýros Vassáras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Adrian Ixari (MDA)

Group D
6 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Gelsenkirchen (Veltins-Arena)
FC Schalke 04 (GER) - Galatasaray (TUR)
Referee: William Collum (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David McGeachie (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Fourth Official: Francis Connor (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Andrew Dallas (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Nicolas Walsh (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: José Luis Astiazarán Irriondo (ESP)

154 comments:

  1. Massa with his debut in CL group stage. Expected, we needed another name after Rocchi and Orsato. I wish him the best.
    About the rest, the first thing we can say: Mateu Lahoz has not the same reputation of Kuipers, maybe this was already clear, but now we have a full confirmation. He has been not considered for Napoli - PSG, and Stella Rossa - Liverpool is rather something for a Category 1. However, maybe this was also the result of a not so good management of Spanish appointments so far. Mateu in any case could have been in a better game.
    For Marciniak a sonorous game, but still not so important for standings, in this group Barcelona and Inter are clearly ahead. Nice to see Kružliak in the other game.
    Soareas Dias still with not so much interesting games...
    Collum will officiate a very important tie in Gelsenkirchen.

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    1. Very sensible set of appointments IMO. The Belgrade is not so bad, I think. Probably the host will Liverpool give a hard time, while the English can't afford to lose points there. So Category 1 would be too less there IMO.
      Not only Marciniak, but also Orsato with a sonorous, but not that important game. Maybe one of them could have got the Schalke match instead, but it is also a good challenge for Collum.
      Good appointment for Kruzliak as well, maybe this year he can finally make the step to Elite.

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  2. Committee members for Massa and Orsato.

    For Massa it's understandable but could Orsato expect something big in case of a good performance?

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    1. Didn't know that Mike Riley is a committee member - is he really? 🤔

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    2. He is not a committee member. Maybe Edward confused him with Elleray.

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    3. He was at FIFA ref. committee, hence my mistake.

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  3. Excuse me, who are exactly the commitee observers? I know Vassaras, Uilenberg, Fandel...are, but is there a full list?

    Thanks.

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    1. Chairman: Roberto Rosetti (UEFA Chief Refereeing Officer)
      Deputy Chairman: Hugh Dallas (UEFA Refereeing Officer)
      1st Vice-Chairman: Marc Batta (UEFA Refereeing Officer)
      2nd Vice-Chairman: Vladimir Sajn (UEFA Refereeing Officer)
      3rd Vice-Chairwoman: Dagmar Damková (UEFA Refereeing Officer)
      Members: David R. Elleray (England), Herbert Fandel (Germany) José Fontelas Gomes (Portugal), Bo Karlsson (Sweden), Nikolay Levnikov (Russia/Kazakhstan), Jaap Uilenberg (Netherlands), Kyros Vassaras (Greece).

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  4. We have 7 remaining Elite referees for tomorrow (Cakir, Kassai, Makkelie, Karasev, Aytekin, Turpin, Rocchi). I assume, at least the matches in Munich and Valencia will be for First Group - so someone will have to go to EL again. Probably Aytekin is most endangered for that. And for Karasev it's actually difficult to find a match: Benfica-Ajax and Lyon-Hoffenheim seem too important (one of them should be for Rocchi, the other one for Cakir, Makkelie or Turpin), the rest is not possible. So he might be in EL as well.

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    2. Rocchi has for sure a game as he is missing in CL in this set.
      Very likely he will appear with Di Liberatore and another AR (Costanzo or Passeri).

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  5. OT:

    It's being a busy day for Medié Jiménez in VAR (referee Iglesias Villanueva, match Eibar-Alavés). First he corrected a wrongly disallowed goal for offside in a free kick, then Iglesias Villanueva whistles a DOGSO PK + YC, but Medié Jiménez intervenes and its finally a foul + RC.

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  6. For Wednesday maybe we can expect:
    Rocchi in Benfica - Ajax
    Category 1 (even a debut) in Bayern - AEK
    Makkelie in Manchester City - Shakhtar
    Cakir in Olympique Lyonnais - Hoffenheim
    Kassai in CSKA Moscow - Roma
    Aytekin in Viktoria Plzeň - Real Madrid
    Turpin in Juventus - Manchester United
    Category 1 in Valencia - Young Boys (but this game would be important for qualification in case Manchester will lose in Turin against Juventus).
    Maybe Makkelie possible in Valencia and a Category 1 in Manchester? Shakhtar gets always such appointments...
    This should be more or less the scenario.

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    1. Yes, I agree. Kassai and Turpin could also be swapped, as the match in Moscow is more important regarding the group standings. Category 1 with some CL experience (Mazeika?) should be enough in Valencia, I think.

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    2. The referee in Munchen should be István Kovács, he has been reported as appointed in CL.

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    3. I think Makkelie should get something bigger, like Juventus-ManU. That seems to make sense, after his QF of last year.

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  7. Chefren when the new Fifa list will be published. Do you except many changes this year.

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    1. UEFA Referees Committee has planned a meeting on 5 December, there will be the update of categories. In this occasion we should know the new FIFA referees for UEFA, when the categories will be released. For the full 2019 FIFA list we must wait January. I don't understand if you are asking for a specific country when you write "do you expect many changes".

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    2. For changes i mean for big countrys, like Italy, Spain etc i don't know if anyone with show interes for San Marino with all the respect for that country

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    3. Many of those changes are already public. In Spain, José Luis Munuera Montero will replace David Fernández Borbalán, who retired last June. Regarding ARs, Miguel Martínez Munuera has left the list and will be replaced by Íñigo Prieto López de Ceraín.

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    4. Well, the thing is many FAs already published which referees will be on FIFA list in 2019, including the new ones.

      In Spain, since the publication of 2017-18 season report in June (including promotions, relegations for the new season...), we know José Luis Munuera Montero (*1983) will be our next FIFA referee in January 2019.

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    5. England:
      new: Christopher Kavanagh (33yo)
      out: Robert Madley (33yo)

      Germany:
      new: Sascha Stegemann (34yo)
      out: Manuel Gräfe (45yo)

      Italy (speculations)
      new: Michael Fabbri (35yo), Maurizio Mariani (36yo)
      out: Luca Banti (44yo) and/or Paolo Silvio Mazzoleni (44yo) and/or Gianluca Rocchi (45yo)

      Spain:
      new: José Luis Munuera Montero (35yo)
      out: David Fernández Borbalán (45yo)

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    6. The most interesting question for me is, who of the 1973 born will continue at least until the end of the season.
      Undiano: yes(?)
      Rocchi: yes(?)
      Kuipers: yes(?)
      Mazic: ?
      Schörgenhofer: no(?)
      Gräfe: no
      Bezborodov: ?

      Do we have some safe information on this?

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    7. It will be interesting if Chefren can find new fifa list of referees before 5 december :)

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    8. Phillipp,
      About Bjorn Kuipers i can confirm, he will contininue refereeing until 2020 in Holland, but also international iff uefa and fifa allow him to do so, and his body also allow him to do, this is what he said when i was at a theather college of him.

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    9. @Adrien I can't do that, sorry. It is impossible :)
      @Philipp about Rocchi, for sure he will stay on FIFA list for 2019, then for sure as well on December 2019 he will be removed. Undiano will end his Spanish careeer on next June, so he will be FIFA referee only for the first half of 2019.
      About Kuipers, a reader of the blog a few days ago wrote that he could stay on the list even until 2020 (I guess EURO tournament) if he feels that he is still OK with physical condition. I think we can be sure he will stay at least for the whole 2019... I don't know about Mazic, I tried to ask for some info. It would be interesting to know about Bezborodov as well, I knew that age limit in Russia was 45... so in any case I think he should be out for 2019.

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    10. Those referees like Kuipers (and some others) should have the decency (or common sense) to stop their international careers. Kuipers has already 4 final tournaments, a CL final, 2 EL finals etc. Enough is enough, don't you think ? There are also many other referees in this world who want to whistle big games !!!

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    11. @Chefren In Russia, age limit is not 45. For example, Alexey Nikolaev (born 1971) is still on the list this season though he got only 3 matches as FO. Last season he was active until the end - his last (by now) game as the main referee was on 13.05.2018
      https://premierliga.ru/rfpl/arbitr/arbitr_27.html

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    12. I found Russian list of FIFA referees for 2019:

      1. Sergey Karasev
      2. Vladislav Bezborodov
      3. Alexey Eskov
      4. Sergey Lapochkin
      5. Vitaly Meshkov
      6. Sergey Ivanov
      7. Kirill Levnikov
      8. Alexey Matyunin
      9. Vladimir Moskalev
      10. Mihail Vilkov

      Source: https://www.sports.ru/football/1067526992.html

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    13. Portugal

      Referee

      New: António Nobre (30 yo)
      Out: Carlos Xistra (44 yo)

      Assistant Referee

      New: Pedro Mota (37 yo)
      Out: Ricardo Santos (45 yo)

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    14. Milorad Mažić should stay in the FIFA list until EURO 2020, which will probably conclude his career. UEFA persuaded him to stay until then.

      Unless there is a 'change of plan', this should be a pretty sure info.

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    15. Thanks for your answers. So we have a more or less sure yes for most of the names. Anything known on Schörgenhofer?

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    16. Schörgenhofer gets the FIFA badge for another year.

      In Austria, Oliver Drachta will leave the FIFA list. He was demoted from First Category this year, now his international career is well and truly over. Sebastian Gishamer (30 y.o.) replaces him.

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  8. OT:
    I watched match between Betis and Celta.
    I want to point that I saw problem of adding time from referees in Spain.
    Referee in that match was Estrada Fernandez.
    Match ended with 3-3 score,there were multiple confrotations between players and even coaches,6 subs,many complaints to the ref.I thought for sure there would be 5 minutes added,then I saw that he only added 3 minutes at the end of 90 minutes.

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    1. There is a special law is Spain with says that added time can't be more than 3 minutes...

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    2. Yep, it's our "endemic" problem.

      Looks like Spanish referees can't add 3+ minutes if there's no VAR intervention. Today Iglesias Villanueva had only 3/6 substitutions in 2nd half but an OFR to issue a missed RC for SFP. With no confrontations and time losses, he added 5...

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    3. I think, they throw with a dice to decide how many extra time they add

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  9. Some of the referee decisions from the weekends Premier League games
    Arsenal vs Liverpool -
    Possible missed penalties from Andre Marriner:
    https://streamable.com/yhivq
    https://streamable.com/vb8e7
    Halftime analysis of disallowed goal:
    https://streamable.com/7v0sw
    Fabinho YC:
    https://streamable.com/muky3
    Cardiff City vs Leicester City -
    Possible offside and handball appeal:
    https://streamable.com/p78fb
    Wolves vs Tottenham -
    Mike Dean penalties:
    https://streamable.com/svide
    https://streamable.com/j7cop
    West Ham vs Burnley -
    Penalty appeal:
    https://streamable.com/qfq61
    Manchester City vs Southampton -
    Penalty:
    https://streamable.com/7hyp8

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  10. No words for this 2nd YC given by Vitaliy Romanov at the weekend, in the Ukranian Classic between Shakhtar - Dynamo Kiev.
    I mean his performance was hardly shining before, but it was solid enough.
    I try to always discuss referees with empathy, but this was actually a 'joke'.

    https://streamable.com/cm5g8

    We can further discover why as it was stated here in the last time, why no Ukrainian referees will attend CL...

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    1. I cant believe that Ukranian referees are wearing 2014 Adidas kit

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    2. It`s ukrainian football...I was watching this match at stadium, and after match Shakhtar`s and Dynamo`s representatives were satisfied with refereeing! Such situation is rare for our football

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    3. Well, I can hardly see where's the mistake here.

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    4. End decision is correct, but everything up to it is really very poor, at least for my taste.

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  11. Makkelie with O. Lyonnais - Hoffenheim

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  12. Kassai for Man City - Shakhtar

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  13. OT:

    Appointments LaLiga MD12. Only referee and VAR revealed by CTA-RFEF.

    Levante-Real Sociedad (Friday 9, 21:00 CET)
    Referee: David MEDIÉ JIMÉNEZ
    VAR: Carlos DEL CERRO GRANDE (FIFA 1st)

    Valladolid-Eibar (Saturday 10, 13:00 CET)
    Referee: Guillermo CUADRA FERNÁNDEZ
    VAR: Alfonso ÁLVAREZ IZQUIERDO

    Getafe-Valencia (Saturday 10, 16:15 CET):
    Referee: Ricardo DE BURGOS BENGOETXEA (FIFA 2nd)
    VAR: Xavier ESTRADA FERNÁNDEZ (FIFA 1st)

    Atlético de Madrid-Athletic Club (Saturday 10, 18:30 CET):
    Referee: José María SÁNCHEZ MARTÍNEZ (FIFA 2nd)
    VAR: Alejandro HERNÁNDEZ HERNÁNDEZ (FIFA 2nd)

    Girona-Leganés (Saturday 10, 20:45 CET):
    Referee: Adrián CORDERO VEGA
    VAR: Jesús GIL MANZANO (FIFA Elite)

    Alavés-Huesca (Sunday 11, 12:00 CET):
    Referee: José Luis MUNUERA MONTERO
    VAR: Javier ALBEROLA ROJAS

    Barcelona-Betis (Sunday 11, 16:15 CET):
    Referee: Antonio MATEU LAHOZ (FIFA Elite)
    VAR: Juan MARTÍNEZ MUNUERA (FIFA 2nd)

    Rayo Vallecano-Villarreal (Sunday 11, 18:30 CET):
    Referee: José Luis GONZÁLEZ GONZÁLEZ
    VAR: Mario MELERO LÓPEZ

    Sevilla-Espanyol (Sunday 11, 18:30 CET):
    Referee: Santiago JAIME LATRE
    VAR: Eduardo PRIETO IGLESIAS

    Celta-Real Madrid (Monday 12, 21:00 CET):
    Referee: Alberto UNDIANO MALLENCO (FIFA Elite)
    VAR: Pablo GONZÁLEZ FUERTES

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  14. Not a good end to a game for Willie Collum on Saturday, player already booked gets a second yellow for what looks like absolutely nothing: https://twitter.com/sharpdiv7/status/1058730337734479872

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  15. OT:

    Turkey. IMO absolutely excellent call from Mustafa Öğretmenoğlu in Sivasspor-Konyaspor.

    Player commits a SPA offence, referee gives advantage and 3 seconds later the same player commits another SPA in which he finall stops the attack. Referee, as his fellow countryman Çakır did in Northern Ireland-Hungary some years ago, gives 2 YC in a row and the RC.

    From 1:30. http://tr.beinsports.com/lig/spor-toto-super-lig/ozet/2018-2019/11/sivasspor-0-0-konyaspor-mac-ozeti

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    1. According to UEFA RAP 2018-1, if you play advantage on a SPA you shouldn't caution because a promising attack wasn't stopped. In your scenario you would only caution the second one. That is unless the first one was reckless and then SPA.

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    2. From the LOTG, 1 jun 2018

      "If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution / send off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution / send off must be issued when the ball is next out of play, except for the denial of an obvious goal-scoring opportunity when the player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour."

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    3. I'm glad you brought that up Nathan because I have found this very confusing. If you apply the laws as they are written you would be correct in saying that they should be cautioned. However, every piece of teaching material I have seen from UEFA says that the player should only be cautioned on a promising attack advantage if the tackle was reckless. And the only change to law for this season was with regards to DOGSO advantage. I would love some clarification on this as the law has been like this since at the very least the massive overhaul of 2016. Yet we consistently see teaching materials and instructors say to only caution if a promising attack is actually stopped. I'll place a quote from UEFA RAP 2017/2 'Advantage' H-9 here for you. " The AR signals for foul play too quickly, when the team has a very promising attacking opportunity. The referee should not act on advice of his assistant and allow play to continue; no disciplinary sanction would then be needed (as promising attack would not be stopped)". See what I mean? If advantage is played, there is no need for a caution.
      I've included the clip of this here:
      https://streamable.com/eul1t
      Until this is cleared up for me I'm continuing with not cautioning careless SPA fouls where I play advantage.

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    4. I saw in multiple occasions a YC given for blatant SPA holding or careless tackle, after an advantage. I am not a referee myself and a lot of person here will know better than me anyway :)

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    5. Cakir’s dubbel yellow was for two seperate yellow card caregories. Reckless challenge and SPA

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    6. The wording for SPA is "commits a foul which *interferes* with or stops a promising attack" which surely allows for a YC even if it's not stopped.

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    7. Again Michael then somebody needs to tell UEFA who continue to instruct not to show the yellow card for an advantage on SPA.

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  16. Correct or at least supportable penalty call by Soares Dias in Monaco - Brugge. Deliberate handball, arm was not in natural position.

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  17. Well, I must say that an Elite referee like Mateu was justified in Belgrade, Serbian side is definitely a better team at home and this game can be very important for qualification as well.

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    1. Now with Zvezda leading 2-0 it will be challenging match for sure.

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  18. Possible RC to Lallana, but maybe not a 100% mandatory one. To be rewatched.

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    1. Lahoz had great view,he was very close.

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    2. https://streamable.com/cd4co

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    3. Thank you so much, DutchRef.
      Arguments in favor of RC: late tackle without any chance to play the ball, player "loading" both legs.
      Arguments in favor of YC: hitting point.
      I think that RC would have been the most appropriate choice, but in a scale not a 100% clear SFP.

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    4. YC and nothing more IMO

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    5. Both decisions supportable imo.

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  19. Possible penalty missed by Mateu Lahoz (45')

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    1. I watched now the replay, I think penalty could have been whistled, but still not 100% clear.

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    2. Weird that noone from Red Star made any complaints.
      I dont know,very 50-50 call.

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    3. And the handball incident:

      https://streamable.com/3orqc

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    4. Looks like a quite clear penalty, the only doubt is about a possible touch on the body before the arm, but penalty would have been fully justified. Difficult to spot, there were many players inside the box close to this incident.

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    5. Arm invading a space, movement towards the ball (but rather undeliberate)… but really short distance between the attacker's shot and the arm contact. IMO, more penalty than not but not a crucial mistake.

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    6. Short distance, no time to react, no PK for me.

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    7. Short distance, short distance but there are also other criterials that must be considered. Distance is one of them but not the only one. For me this is preety clear penalty. But thinking the score was 2-0, probably nobody will complain about that penalty.
      Otherwise you should know that Mateu lahoz give a penalty for handball only in case of a "volleyball" action (pls remind Italy- Sweden)

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    8. Short distance and arm is down at the impact moment

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    9. I wasn't precise, the distance is toooo short and, IMO arm has to be obviously in unnatural position for to be punishable.
      This is never PK for me :)

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    10. I wasn't precise, the distance is toooo short and, IMO arm has to be obviously in unnatural position for to be punishable.
      This is never PK for me :)

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    11. No way this is a pen. Way to short distance and arm was in an acceptable position.

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  20. Having watched the second half only, an expected level by Mateu Lahoz to me. Some doubts regarding the handball, but as I said, I don't think it is a 100% clear error and thus not a crucial mistake. After watching the possible RC (thanks, DutchRef!), the feeling is the same. More red than yellow to me, but neither a crucial mistake.

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  21. Penalty appeal by Atlético de Madrid (43'). I think it was so.

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    1. I think Orsato missed a clear penalty here.

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    2. https://streamable.com/1q3xy

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    3. Clearly a pen. However, I think ref had doubts about whether the goalie was fouled on the play and decided to let play go on.

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  22. Excellent onside in Porto 2nd goal.

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  23. HT in San Paolo. Napoli claimed PSG goal was out of time, and when whistling half time booked Fabián for kicking out the ball (dissent for action), plus an attempt of confrontation between players from both teams happened.

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  24. Kuipers first half: two YC, both correct. In the second case Kuipers played advantage and he didn't remember exactly the player to be booked, he was halped by a teammate via earphone and he showed the card to the correct player.
    Then, an interesting situation in the last minute, PSG scored a few seconds after the end of added time (1 minute). There were some protests and tension after the goal, a player was booked for that. It is common thing for UEFA to allow an attacking action even when the additional time is over, so Kuipers can't be blamed for that.
    In second half, for sure the game will be more challenging.

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    1. One has to remember, it is
      AT LEAST 1 minute of extra time. That means ref can add on top of 1 minute as needed. It would be ridiculous to end the half with an attack in the penalty box! Always last attack is allowed to continue.

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  25. Marciniak allowing way too much dissent from Suarez. The only player who complains about everything but Marciniak doesn’t do anything.

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    1. He allowed way too much complaints from Suarez.Shou have booked him.

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  26. 61': crucial decision by Kuipers and AR1. Penalty to Napoli.
    Player fouled was in offside but there was a deliberate play by a defender before and so offside was not punishable anymore.
    Excellent cooperation.

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    1. Yes, the AR1 made also the gesture to some defenders asking for offside. Great management imho

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    2. Where can I find a video? Thanks. :)

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    3. A video of this would be very beneficial for educational purposes.

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  27. 72': penalty appeal by PSG. I think Kuipers assessed the situation as not enough for a whistle. However, it could have been whistled.

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    1. Do you think VAR would’ve intervened? I don’t think so...

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    2. I agree, VAR very likely wouldn't have intervened but more penalty than play on.

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    3. VAR has to intervene for something like this. There is no excuse for no penalty. Clear foul in the penalty error.

      Kuipers MUST see this on this level and in that position.

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    4. Agree with Blra. Unacceptable for Kuipers not to see it in that position.

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    5. Unacceptable decision here from superb positionning by Kuipers. Sorry, but obvious and big error from ref here.

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    6. I think both decisions supportable.

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  28. 71’ Penalty appeal by PSG. There is a contact but the attacker exaggerates the fall. For me more penalty than play on

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    1. If you ask me a "yes or no" answer I would say: penalty ! The reaction of italian commentator: "E va bene così" :)

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    2. Crucial mistake. Clear penalty.

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  29. What an awful advantage now by Orsato… not very impressive tonight, TBH.

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    1. Let’s say that in these weeks he’s “not at his best” neither as main ref nor as VAR. Many complaints also in Italy on him

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  30. Schalke 2-0 against Galatsaray:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A9fDuOUZj0
    I think clear offside: obstructing line of vision.

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  31. Kuipers booked Neymar who applauded him (during the card showing), it could have been second YC or even straight RC.

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    1. Should have not could have. Everyone saw it. It’s mandatory.

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    2. Straight Red?!? Leniency supportable in this case I think.

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    3. https://streamable.com/l5i4g
      I'm sorry but this is never a straight red.
      I'm not defending what Neymar did but he clapped the referee for only a second. Could it have been a second yellow? Sure but not a straight red.
      I find it more interesting how the other PSG players physically block the path of the referee to try and stop him showing the yellow to Neymar. They should have been carded.

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  32. IMO missed RC for Neymar, clapping his hands to Kuipers ironically after a YC for protests

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    1. Sorry Chefren, looks like we’re synchronised 😅

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  33. Very lenient line by Kružliak. Too lenient for me.

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  34. Come on guys. Italian players (two defenders) are near 2 meters from free frick. PSG players wanted kuipers to respect the law. But no problem with LOTG by dutch ref here. He created the confusion without clear prevency...Bad management here IMO. And clear mistake with penalty on Bernal.

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  35. Sorry to insist, but IMO this is really a crucial crucial mistake by Kuipers for the foul on Bernat. One can still discuss about the possible RC for Neymar or Verratti at the end of the game (both would have been supportable), but this penalty was more than clear, especially from where Kuipers was positioned.
    We can see on the image that he moves his whistle to his mouth, so this wasn’t clear in his mind.
    I can’t explain this decision...

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    1. My explanation is that Kuipers thought PSG player had exaggerated the contact. But yes, penalty was the correct decision there.

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    2. That penalty would have been megaimportant for the qualification in this group. It was 1-1 but PSG must win against Liverpool in MD5.

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    3. I agree with Chefren. He probably thought that Bernat exaggerated and he maybe missed the courage to make such a crucial call in that atmosphere. Still, a mistake which should not happen at that level.

      Apart from that: A very difficult match. Kuipers had control for most parts, but lost a bit of it in the last minutes. The whole Neymar situation was badly managed. Why issue a YC, when the player has even some points with his claims? Just relax him or even better ignore him. Kuipers decision was not so clever here and brought him a very difficult follow-up decision where he has to issue a 2nd YC to Neymar. So, in my opinion a 7.4. Two crucial mistakes.

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    4. Lannoy confirms your point of view @Chefren on French TV : Kuipers didn’t blow his whistle because he thought Bernat exaggerated the contact. But finally says that the right decision was PK.

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    5. Both decisions supportable. Player clearly lets himself go although there was contact. I can see why either decision could be given.

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    6. Ridiculous. That’s clearly PK.

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    7. @Unknown : if that is supportable, we can remove Law 14 from the LOTG ;)

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  36. PSG - Liverpool will be a very decisive game on MD5... many referees are out for this game! Most of the reliable Elite already officiated in tis group, other names are out for different reasons.
    Skomina and Hategan the only solutions there.

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    1. Brych is also my choice.
      He had important Liverpool and PSG matches last year (for ex.PSG-Real,Liverpool-Man.City).
      Rhis year was not the best for him,but having in mind that Cakir had their 1st match,Mazic cant officiate because Red Star is in the group,Skomina is not in best form,to me Brych is best solution.

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    2. A thing is sure: PSG must win against Liverpool, otherwise they are (prety sure) out. In this order PSG- Liverpool needs a top referee. I already told you that Cakir was a non-sense in 1st round, in Liverpool- PSG. Cakir would have been a very good solution now, in a decisive game. Otherwise, keep in mind that Zwayer was in charge at PSG- Napoli. We will have again a german referee for PSG at home ? Very possibil because the options are very limited (thanks to Collina...). Don't forget that also Liverpool- Napoli, in last round, needs a top referee. If PSG will beat Liverpool than last game will be do or die for Liverpool.

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    3. I excluded Brych because last referee in Paris was Zwayer...

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    4. Probably we will have Skomina in PSG- Liverpool (decisive game for Skomina's road to CL final, he can't make mistake anymore) and Brych in Liverpool- Napoli (despite the fact that Pool- Crvena Zvezda was whistle by Siebert, also a german)

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    5. For sure there aren't many options and this group is very difficult to manage for committee.

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    6. What about Marciniak? 🤔

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    7. He already was on FK Crvena zvezda - SSC Napoli

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    8. As for me, i don`t see any obvious favorites for 2019 finals...
      Especially for UCL final in Madrid. Too many readers were talking about Skomina, but he is not in a good shape now. We don`t know about Rosetti`s ideas in his head. More than 5 debutants in UCL GS. It was impossible at Collina`s era
      It`s easier to talk about UEL final in Baku: Turpin and Marcianiak are clear candidates

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    9. @Nathan: Yes, I know, but why should that UEFA prevent from appointing him for PSG - Liverpool? Last season, Kralovec was in charge of both matches in group H, for example.

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    10. You are right, Peter. Marciniak should be possible, it already happened in past to see a referee officiating twice in the same group but different teams. For sure one could say this is still the result of missing alternatives, but it was my mistake to forget that. Marciniak is possible for PSG - Liverpool. Then maybe Brych in Liverpool - Napoli on MD6.

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    11. Mazic may be possible for Liverpool-Napoli if required.

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    12. @Robbie82 - Its not possible because of Crvena Zvezda in the same group.

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    13. @Jovan - possible if Crvena Zvezda are eliminated by then. One example(of many) being Mejuto Gonzalez referring Liverpool - Olympiakos (MD6 2004) even though Deportivo were in group.

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  37. Clear offside in my opinion on Schalke second goal.

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  38. Interesting comments from Neymar after the game. He claimed Kuipers said something disrespectful which he wouldn't repeat. I didn't watch the game but it seems Kuipers finish the game with controversies.

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    1. Neymar called Kuipers a ”c*nt” in the world cup. He hates Kuipers. And Kuipers allows him to disrespect him.

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  39. Has anyone the clip of Napoli v PSG 61': crucial decision by Kuipers and AR1. Penalty to Napoli??

    Many thanks.

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    1. https://streamable.com/p6zxv

      Callejon is offside at the beginning, but doesn’t interfere in Silva’s intervention, so correct decision and good cooperation between Kuipers and AR1 (and AAR1 perhaps).

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  40. Schalke - Galatasaray

    2-0 goal (with a replay from a camera behind the goal):
    https://streamable.com/8dexi

    Possible SFP:
    https://streamable.com/j2ihf

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