Wednesday, 7 November 2018

Champions League 2018/19 - Referee Appointments - Matchday 4 (II)

The following officials will be in charge of Wednesday's Champions League MD4 games. István Kovács (ROU) will make his CL group stage debut. Thanks to H_demboveac on twitter for the appointments.

Group G
7 November 2018, 18:55 CET - Moscow (Stadion "Luzhniki")
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) - AS Roma (ITA)
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarık Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Božinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Tammo Beishuizen (NED)

Group H
7 November 2018, 18:55 CET - València (Mestalla, Camp del València)
Valencia CF (ESP) - BSC Young Boys (SUI)
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mihai Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Alexandru Cerei (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Ionuț Marius Avram (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Horațiu Mircea Feșnic (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Haim Jakov (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Myrsíni Psaropoúlou (GRE)

Group E
7 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Munich (Allianz Arena)
FC Bayern München (GER) - AEK Athens FC (GRE)
Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Matej Žunič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Manuel Vidali (SVN)
Fourth Official: Tomislav Pospeh (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Slavko Vinčič (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Nejc Kajtazovič (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Michael Appleby (ENG)

Group E
7 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do SL Benfica)
SL Benfica (POR) - AFC Ajax (NED)
Referee: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Elenito Giovanni Di Liberatore (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Matteo Passeri (ITA)
Fourth Official: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Luca Banti (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Crawford Wilson (NIR)

Group F
7 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Décines-Charpieu (Groupama Stadium)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) - TSG 1899 Hoffenheim (GER)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Joost van Zuilen (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Kevin Blom (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Allard Lindhout (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Manuel Díaz Vega (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Kofoed (DEN)

Group F
7 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Manchester (Etihad Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Referee: Viktor Kassai (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: György Ring (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Vencel Tóth (HUN)
Fourth Official: Péter Berettyán (HUN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tamás Bognár (HUN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sándor Andó-Szabó (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ilkka Koho (FIN)
UEFA Delegate: Geir Þorsteinsson (ISL)

Group G
7 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Plzeň (Doosan Arena)
FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Referee: Deniz Aytekin (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Eduard Beitinger (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Luciano Luci (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: David Findlay (SCO)

Group H
7 November 2018, 21:00 CET - Turin (Juventus Stadium)
Juventus FC (ITA) - Manchester United FC (ENG)
Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Eugen Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Adrian Ștefan Ghinguleac (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Radu Marian Petrescu (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Constantin Colțescu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jørn West Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Radenko Mijatovič (SVN)
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149 comments:

  1. Chefren5 November 2018 at 10:23

    So Hațegan as last minute replacement for Turpin, he should be injured. He has been replaced in Ligue 1, as reported here on the blog.
    At the same time, a very good signal for the Romanian. István Kovács debut has been confirmed as well.
    Karasev the only Elite referee in Europa League.

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    1. Nathan M.5 November 2018 at 14:34

      No appointment either for Turpin in next Ligue 1 matchday. So he should be injured...😟

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    2. Nathan M.5 November 2018 at 16:33

      I found some infos about Turpin-Hategan
      https://www.gsp.ro/international/liga-campionilor/exclusiv-ce-se-afla-in-spatele-delegarii-lui-hategan-la-juventus-manchester-united-detalii-din-culise-si-deciziile-de-urgenta-luate-de-uefa-552411.html

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    3. Chefren5 November 2018 at 17:16

      Well, we have the confirmation, but it was quite clear.
      I notice that Romanian sport press is very interested in reporting refereeing news, differently from other countries.
      This had already happened with the news of István Kovács appointed for his CL debut.
      https://www.fanatik.ro/istvan-kovacs-delegat-in-etapa-a-4-a-din-liga-campionilor-ion-craciunescu-a-criticat-decizia-uefa-18647145

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    4. Ichigo5 November 2018 at 18:49

      Ioan Craciunescu, who had a final in Champions League, and was the romanian head of referee, doesn`t like referees Ovdiu Hategan and Istvan Kovacs. In the TV shows, for some minor mistakes he criticised excesive the referees. And I think that will be some change in the group referee from Romania. Seebastian Coltescu who is in secon class, and is 41 years will be relegate in the third class and replaced with Horatiu Fesnic, who have 29 years.

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    5. Chefren6 November 2018 at 13:52

      Thanks for this explanation, indeed I was about to ask why Craciunescu was against Kovacs... I don't like this attitude!

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    6. Ichigo6 November 2018 at 18:22

      Mr Craciunescu was against all the referees who was not promoted by him when he was the romanian chief of them. he also had a favourite referee who now is at the end of refereing and that is Alexandru Tudor who is 47. He made a lot of mistakes, but Craciunescu backed him. I like how Kyros Vassaras, who is not loved by the romanian newspaper, rise our young referee. A very good referee and I like his style is Andrei Chivulete who is only 31 years and soon he will be in the FIFA list. By the way, I am from Romania too.

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  2. Fidje5 November 2018 at 10:26

    Good assignment for Makkelie. What triggers me here is the assignment of Lindhout as AAR2. Is this a signal that he is considered as a new FIFA referee after one of the other dutch refs will retire?

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    1. DutchRedREF5 November 2018 at 12:13

      I think Kamphuis is one step forward than Lindhout. Kamphuis will be the first to replace an other Dutch ref. Kamphuis has officiate more matches of Ajax and PSV and Lindhout last Saturday Ajax for the first time.
      IMO the number of matches of Ajax and PSV whistled is good indicator.

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    2. RikB5 November 2018 at 18:03

      And especially also those of Feyenoord.

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    3. DutchRedREF5 November 2018 at 18:26

      Feyenoord?? Is that the club who plays their games in a stadion without light? ;-)

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    4. RikB5 November 2018 at 23:04

      That's why it's so difficult. ;)

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    5. DutchRedREF5 November 2018 at 23:08

      WoW, huge mistake from my side. I wrote “Stadion” instead of stadium.

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  3. HUSSAIN5 November 2018 at 10:29

    So we have two referees at least in each round with debuts . Nice thing to see this happen and It was rare to see this in collina's era. Hategan now lives great times with big matches. Kassay maybe be candidate for UEL final

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    1. CristiRef5 November 2018 at 16:21

      I think there are referees which deserve the UEL Final more than Kassai.

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    2. DutchRedREF5 November 2018 at 23:10

      Turpin or Marciniak, maybe Rocchi if he keeps on the list until the end of the season.
      CL final definitely Skomina

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    3. petschovschi6 November 2018 at 15:21

      It's impossible to say who will whistle the finals. One (big) mistake and you are out of everything. Best example: Hategan in Northern Ireland- Switzerland (btw, romanian press suggested that Hategan was a preety sure name for WC before that play-off). Otherwise, Skomina didn't start in a good way this season. He should be careful if he wants to whistle CL final.

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  4. Sviat M6 November 2018 at 12:41

    There is a big resonance in ukrainian media after Kassai`s appointment for Shakhtar`s match. After disallowed goal at UEFA EURO 2012 match between Ukraine and England!

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    1. Chefren6 November 2018 at 13:51

      Still thinking to EURO 2012... I can't believe that. So, it seems as this is the first time that Kassai meets again a team from Ukraine after that date?

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    2. Sviat M6 November 2018 at 15:24

      Yes, Chefren!This is the first match between Kassai and the Ukrainian teams after 6 years

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    3. Lde7 November 2018 at 11:35

      Currently, there is a political war at the level of verbal altercation between Hungary and Ukraine.

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    4. Sviat M7 November 2018 at 11:46

      I agree with you, Lde! But fortunately, there is no any mention about this in sports media.
      So, i hope that Kassai will show his best level(2010-2011) in Manchester today.

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    5. Quilava7 November 2018 at 12:45

      Well' I think reactions in Spain are even worse after Aytekin appointed to Viktoria Plzen-Real Madrid.

      Lots of Madrid fans are angry because they still remember Aytekin's wrong decisions in Barcelona-PSG, and thought he was "kicked out" (sic) of UEFA refereeing after that match (LOL).

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    6. Chefren7 November 2018 at 13:14

      It is difficult to explain things to people who are not refereeing experts...

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    7. Quilava7 November 2018 at 15:00

      Indeed.

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  5. petschovschi7 November 2018 at 16:16

    A very important evening for romanian refereeing. For the first time in the history (as far as I know) we will have 2 refereees in the same day of Champions League. Since 1995 (when Craciunescu whistled the CL final) we had Corpodean (1 game), Tudor (1 game), Balaj (2 games), Hategan and Kovacs (debut this evening). Since 1995 until now the most important game seems to be the 2017 Hategan's SF in EL (Manchester United- Celta Vigo).

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    1. greek ref7 November 2018 at 18:22

      I think that this reflects the good job that is being done in Romanian refereeing.

      I hope that, one day, we can see 2 greek referees on CL. But I don't think that it will ever happen.

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  6. George7 November 2018 at 19:03

    Minute 4 (I think): very promising attack denied to Valencia in what in the replay I saw seemed a wrong offside decision. It was almost a goal disallowed.

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  7. George7 November 2018 at 19:17

    The game is starting to get heated… Kovacs must be careful now.

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  8. Chefren7 November 2018 at 19:21

    Minute 25' in Moscow: penalty appeal by CSKA in front of AAR1. Correct decision to play on, however quite blatant mistake to assign a corner kick. Last touch had been made by attacker. This happened very close to AAR1, I can't believe that he missed the touch.

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  9. Chefren7 November 2018 at 19:32

    Kovacs with a possible second YC... game is quite challenging in Valencia.

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    1. petschovschi7 November 2018 at 19:44

      Are you talking about 13 Ngamaleu (32nd minut) ?

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    2. Chefren7 November 2018 at 19:49

      Yes and then after that, the same player made a third foul. Now the coach will replace him...

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    3. George7 November 2018 at 19:57

      Spot on. The player has been replaced.

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  10. George7 November 2018 at 19:33

    Possibly missed foul prior to Young Boys' equalizer.

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  11. George7 November 2018 at 19:35

    Sorry, but Kovacs management is simply horrible tonight and the impression it gives is that he doesn't deserve to be in UCL.

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    1. petschovschi7 November 2018 at 19:52

      All I can say in this moment is the fact that I really hope Kovacs will carry out this game to a good end.

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  12. M7 November 2018 at 19:36

    Already Kovacs showed 5 bookings.
    Hard to imagine that in this game we wont see RC.

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  13. George7 November 2018 at 19:49

    Half time and I elaborate my previous comment.

    Foul criteria is not really clear, but acceptable. However, the card line is not (YB #13 has made enough fouls and infringed the LoTG in enough ways to deserve a second caution), and specially the way he manages his decisions is absolutely unacceptable at this level. He whistles fouls more than 5 seconds after they happen (handball 33', fully correct, with cooperation, but the referee must see it and if not, should not look so unsure as he looked; also, a foul later for Valencia in which, by the time he whistled, an opportunity for advantage had already appeared). His management of advantages is really poor either (previous parenthesis, and a situation in which a Young Boys' player blocked a Valencia one during a counter-attack, but the ball was not close to the incident and Valencia had a good chance to counter-attack). Player management and acceptance is also poor. Many dissents from players, a booking for a push in a corner that could have been avoided with better management. To me, he looks far too nervous and if things go like this, he will have trouble on the second half.

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  14. Mikael W7 November 2018 at 19:53

    Really challenging debut for István Kovács, now at HT.
    Young Boys were trying to tactically 'kill' the match from the start, and Valencia playing passionately in a match that ought to win. In my opinion, referee never really found the balance between these two factors, allowed YB a bit too much (eg no YC at 21' for a reckless tackle), and managed to irritate Valencia (first YC for them at 21' for a careless foul, unluckily missing big advantage for VAL at 17'). After this, actors played very nervously, making it very hard for the referee to pick out the fouls and true reckless tackles, and calm this match down.
    Add into that a referee that never really found his calm, and Romanian finds himself with a difficult second half.

    Actually it is a shame IMO as Mr Kovács is quite a prospective referee, but he might have missed his big chance tonight...

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  15. Chefren7 November 2018 at 20:08

    Correct second YC by Cakir.

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  16. Chefren7 November 2018 at 20:26

    2-1 by Roma offside but difficult to spot for AR.
    Cakir should have informed him that Dzeko had touched the ball. Impossible to see from AR's position. Otherwise, on the original pass, player who scored was in regular position. Crucial mistake.

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    1. Bgymn7 November 2018 at 20:32

      Unfortunately these things will not be detected without VAR. I also had my doubts about VAR, but more and more it is becoming an unavoidable reality.

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    2. Chefren7 November 2018 at 20:35

      100% agree!

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    3. Euro Soccer Ref7 November 2018 at 22:09

      https://streamable.com/d2br7

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    4. VG7 November 2018 at 23:24

      On the first pass the player was already offside. Clear on replay. His foot is off.

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  17. George7 November 2018 at 20:29

    Correct straight RC by Kovacs. In the same way I said in the first half that the level was too low, I have to say now that the performance has improved much in the second half, also helped by the current result.

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    1. petschovschi7 November 2018 at 20:36

      2nd half was decent until now (still some problems in foul detection, maybe a card). The problem is the 1st half. I will write more things in the night. I'm romanian , it's difficult for me to criticise Kovacs but his performance from 1st half was really awful

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    2. DutchRef7 November 2018 at 20:42

      https://streamable.com/9c95b

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    3. Chefren7 November 2018 at 20:48

      For sure he will learn from this game. At least there weren't clear crucial mistakes and Valencia won. Swiss side played too dirty in first half.

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    4. Mikael W7 November 2018 at 20:55

      I basically agree, UEFA will appoint him again in CL. I don't think he showed to be an inadequate referee for this level, but rather having 'one of those days'; shit happens. I am still convinced Kovács has a big talent.

      If his CL match is like that 1H, there could be a bigger problems though...

      In hindsight, UEFA might have swapped Romanian with Jug in München.

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    5. petschovschi7 November 2018 at 20:56

      Hmmm... possible 2nd yelow for Ngamaleu, foul prior the goal of Young Boys. Main problem is not about a possible crucial mistake, but is about the (bad) impression he made (unfortunately, it seems he's not ready for CL)

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    6. George7 November 2018 at 20:58

      There was a possible wrong offside denying a goal (the whistle came before the shot, but nothing would have changed). Maybe DutchRef can find it. It was minute 4 (I posted it above). I'm not sure, I only watched one replay and I was not really paying attention to the game yet. Thanks!

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    7. petschovschi7 November 2018 at 21:00

      Probably the observer will give credit. It was very hard to detect I watched a single re-play and I can't say if it was offside or not.

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  18. Gylfi467 November 2018 at 20:31

    Just switched to Valencia-Young boys game,

    Great decision by the referee to send off Young boys player with a straight red. Very high and dangerous tackle.

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  19. George7 November 2018 at 21:05

    Another one that should rewatch and rethink about his decisions tonight is Roberto Rosetti. Was it an appropriate match for a debut? Really? After the first leg? Considering Valencia's current form (yes, that has to be taken into account too. The name is not the most important thing)? Rather not. A very experienced first group or an Elite was necessary here tonight. Development is good. Uncontrolled development is not. It leads to these kind of things.

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  20. Chefren7 November 2018 at 21:11

    Minute 9': Plzen had some reasons to ask for a penalty there.

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  21. superstar01107 November 2018 at 21:13

    Correct YC by Hategan in 12' for MU player

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    1. Stake7 November 2018 at 21:17

      Matic’s YC could also have been a RC for SFP. He literally jumps with two feet into his opponent...

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  22. Chefren7 November 2018 at 21:24

    Shocking penalty whistled by Kassai...

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    1. Sviat M7 November 2018 at 21:24

      Against ukrainian club....it`is shocking

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    2. Raymus7 November 2018 at 21:26

      Incredible. I don't know how many chances Kassai will get on the level after having some crucial mistakes in CL during the previous seasons.

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    3. superstar01107 November 2018 at 21:27

      What happened?

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    4. Chefren7 November 2018 at 21:28

      Maybe this was for sure the last chance. This penalty is not acceptable at this level. I don't know whether AAR was involved there but still a very poor decision.

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    5. david027 November 2018 at 21:29

      Kassai unfortunately wasn't in an ideal position to see it properly. If he moves a few meters left he would have had a better sight on the incident.
      Nevertheless, huge mistake.

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    6. superstar01107 November 2018 at 21:29

      Can we say these are last months for Kassai in elite category?

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    7. david027 November 2018 at 21:31

      Maybe he'll get another chance with VAR next seasons...

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    8. Bgymn7 November 2018 at 21:40

      Absolute disgrace by kassai. He should not referee a CL match after this.

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    9. Bgymn7 November 2018 at 21:41

      Also a disgrace by Sterling. How many times will his blatant dives go unpunished. UEFA must put a foot down and ban him and others like him for 2 matches. Disgusting.

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    10. Quilava7 November 2018 at 21:44

      I thought most stunning PK call of this CL was Gil Manzano's one in Gelsenkirchen.

      But here, defender is nearly a meter away! It's kind of a demotion-worthing mistake, like Bebek in Braga-Fenerbahce. And specially for his AAR.

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    11. Nathan M.7 November 2018 at 21:45

      Wow i just the incident, how the AAR can't see it too?

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    12. Michael7 November 2018 at 21:46

      Wouldn't call it a dive as it didn't look like he appealed for a penalty. But he should be ashamed of himself not owning up to the referee. And the ref should've realised something was wrong with the Shaktar players reactions and asked Sterling if he was touched or not.

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    13. Mikael W7 November 2018 at 21:48

      I was really convinced that after Burnley - Olympiacos, Kassai was back on a high level...

      Even looking into the past, a comment on The Third Team still resonantes to me when talking about the Hungarian - 'He is a good referee in two out of three matches' - in my opinion this hits the nail.

      By the way, if anyone doesn't appreciate what a 'tragedy' this is (of course, it is no real tragedy compared to 'real' life) then please watch, his CL Final, Italy - Spain Barcelona - Milan or Germany - Italy.
      What a great referee (on his day).

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    14. Bgymn7 November 2018 at 21:51

      @michael this is the definition of a dive.

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    15. Marco Neri7 November 2018 at 21:55

      Mikael W
      You’re right: at his day he was one of the top refs. His days are gone now. Imho after Real-Bayern he should have been removed from top refs, now he’s been given a new chance. Thanks Viktor for your best days but that’s enough

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    16. Nathan M.7 November 2018 at 22:04

      Terrible mistake but AR1 and AAR should have clearly helped Kassai there

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    17. Jackson7 November 2018 at 22:22

      One of the worst decisions I've ever seen. Penalty was given by referee but AAR should have said no.

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  23. Chefren7 November 2018 at 21:31

    Jug whistled a penalty to Bayern for holding, there were at least three holding in the box.

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  24. superstar01107 November 2018 at 21:43

    OMG, just saw Kassai's penalty. This is one of the worst PK decisions in last few UCL seasons. Feel sad for him but his performance after Euro isn't on UCL level.

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  25. RikB7 November 2018 at 21:47

    4 yellow cards already in Benfica-Ajax, all of them correct. Good performance by Rocchi so far.

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  26. Mikael W7 November 2018 at 21:52

    In my opinion, Ovidiu Hațegan has arrived as a real top class referee.

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    1. Marco Neri7 November 2018 at 21:52

      Agree, starting from last season, he’s now at a great level!

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  27. Marco Neri7 November 2018 at 21:52

    I know most of you won’t like what I’m going to say but...
    After many many bad performances, Kassai is still appointed in UCL. I’ve also read some comments talking about a chance for him to get the UEL final. He stopped refereeing at his level at least four years ago. Now it’s time for him to get demoted, this PK is literally shocking, to be honest. Sad to say but this is what I think.

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  28. superstar01107 November 2018 at 21:59

    Croatian referee expert Marijo Strahonja (ex cat 1 referee) just said it is last November for Kassai as elite referee. And we must agree with him...

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    1. M7 November 2018 at 22:05

      He is really something refreshing to see on CroTv,he provides much more info about referees than Beusan.

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    2. Unknown7 November 2018 at 23:51

      Well, Strahonja was terrible referee... His performance in Tripolis-Sparta in EL group stage 2015/2016 was one of the worst I've ever seen...
      Kassai will get demoted probably, this penalty is really shocking...

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  29. M7 November 2018 at 22:00

    I feel sad for Kassai.
    One of top refs that has great style of refereeing but has fallen so badly.

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  30. Chefren7 November 2018 at 22:02

    About a possible demotion for Kassai. One must mention again Eriksson.
    If the Swedish was never demoted after many and many crucial mistakes he did in his games, the same should be for Kassai. Both are top level referee with a more than decennary experience. The natural solution for Kassai would be retirement, but I don't think he will be demoted.
    For sure, committee can change idea by managing this situation differently, but this would be unfair... Kassai has been among the top UEFA referees ever.

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    1. "Dynamic Personality"???8 November 2018 at 08:49

      Kassai wouldn't become the first nor the last UEFA referee simply getting by based on past glories. So nothing new here.

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  31. Marco Neri7 November 2018 at 22:06

    Do you think that Sterling could be punished for the simulation?

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    1. Chefren7 November 2018 at 22:09

      In my opinion, not a simulation. Sterling tripped on the ground. He didn't want to win a penalty, or at least one can't be sure about that.

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    2. Bgymn7 November 2018 at 22:10

      That is 100% simulation

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    3. Chefren7 November 2018 at 22:15

      Well, if you are convinced! It would have been interesting to see player's reaction after the fall, but Kassai whistled even too early! :) We will never know.

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    4. Marco Neri7 November 2018 at 22:21

      I’m not convinced too. He trips, that’s right, but why didn’t he tell Kassai it was not a penalty?
      Moreover I’m not sure he trips by chance, to me it looks like he intentionally trips

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    5. VG7 November 2018 at 23:41

      I don’t see it as simulation. He tripped by mistake. Nevertheless he should 100% be ashamed for not admitting there was no contact.
      Only a a gentleman would do that. Few players are...

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    6. Bgymn8 November 2018 at 07:59

      I understand that he tripped over his feet. But he certainly exagerrated his fall! Throwing his hips and arms out especially. I think he understood he was falling and thought he might as well try to sell it as a penalty! While his intention may not have been to dive, there was embellishment for sure and thus simulation.

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    7. "Dynamic Personality"???8 November 2018 at 08:47

      If as referees you are waiting for players to be honest and fair. Get ready for a very long wait. Kassai whistled a totally and complete phantom PK. The fault land squarely at his feet. Delusional to think that Sterling was going to tell Kassai that he had commited a major blunder.

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  32. Howard Maxi7 November 2018 at 22:06

    Makkelie solid so far. One YC very soft.

    How Aytekin could completely ignore a Ramos foul on Havel (player was bleeding severly after being hit in the face and had to be taken off) remains his secret.

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    1. Howard Maxi7 November 2018 at 22:11

      And now a 2nd YC that has been coming for 30 minutes. Correct of course.

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  33. Nathan M.7 November 2018 at 22:11

    Correct second YC and goal disallowed for offside by Makkelie

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  34. Quilava7 November 2018 at 22:13

    IMO correct or at least supportable 2nd YC by Makkelie.

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  35. Quilava7 November 2018 at 22:14

    Maybe missed RC for Ajax defender?

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  36. RikB7 November 2018 at 22:16

    Just saw the penalty of Kassai. I am sorry, but even at an amateur level I would say that if I gave a penalty for this, a demotion would almost be deserved....

    Am I exaggarating? Maybe a bit. But this decision is shocking. No referee should give a penalty for this, it's really obvious.... But say that he was in a wrong position to see it. Where is the coorporation within the team? Where was the input of the AAR? or even de AR?
    If Bebek was demoted for a match in which he made a clear mistake, Kassai should be demoted for sure. This mistake is so blatant, so impossible to explain... I guess that even a VAR would be so surprised about this decision, that he would not interfere.

    How and why? And what happened to Kassai? I don't even like his body language at the penalty.

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    1. superstar01107 November 2018 at 22:31

      We must agree that Bebek deserved demotion, but it is unacceptable and unfair that he is 3 years without UCL match.

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    2. DrMr7 November 2018 at 22:50

      An answer is very simple. Kassai has a lot bigger reputation than Bebek.

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    3. RikB7 November 2018 at 22:53

      I don't know. If you've worked for years earning a promotion, do you deserve a demotion after 2 bad matches? However, over-all I tend to agree with both of you.

      However, how long can someone go on just on reputation? He has had okay performances, but were they on ELITE level? Or were they just okay?

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    4. "Dynamic Personality"???8 November 2018 at 08:43

      In UEFA, a referee's reputation and past glories can mask/cover up multiple bad performances.

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    5. DrMr8 November 2018 at 11:18

      I dind't say it's fair, just said the reason.

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    6. Mikael W8 November 2018 at 14:33

      I don't even think Bebek really deserved his demotion.
      He f*cked up in Madrid yes, but his performance in Braga - Fenerbahce wasn't actually that bad. Two of the three RCs were actually excellent decisions, and IIRC Spanish observer even backed him on the penalty & 2nd YC.
      His problem was that he was too brave; UEFA should have stood by him.

      Circa his demotion, it would be only a dream to expect to make a third spelling CL, Rosetti is looking to future, unfortunately Bebek rather isn't that.

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  37. Chefren7 November 2018 at 22:22

    Excellent ONSIDE by AR2 in Turin for Juventus goal.

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    1. Chefren7 November 2018 at 22:25

      BTW there was a situation in first half, I think an OFF THE BALL incident in the middle of penalty area, with Juventus asking for a penalty (possible holding?).

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    2. petschovschi7 November 2018 at 22:34

      una picola trattenuta a pala lontana. impossibile da vedere per l'arbitro. forse AAR1

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  38. George7 November 2018 at 22:30

    Correct PK now by Kassai

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  39. Chefren7 November 2018 at 22:34

    Hategan with an interesting situation right now: free kick to Juventus for a foul on Dybala, but YC for Dybala as well, for something like a reaction after having been fouled (deliberately kicking the opponent while falling)?
    Well in that case the question is always: so why not RC for violent conduct?

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    1. Marco Neri7 November 2018 at 22:36

      It did non look like a VC, more a reaction (tripping the player). I think RC was too much, good decision imho

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  40. Quilava7 November 2018 at 22:35

    What happened in JUV-MUFC? Both Dybala and Herrera were booked, lots of complaints from Juventus player to Hategan.

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    1. Chefren7 November 2018 at 22:36

      A reaction against the opponent by Dybala while falling, with the leg...

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  41. DrMr7 November 2018 at 22:53

    Very good decision for AR before Utd second goal. For me, this decision is harder for AR then situation with Ronaldo (Juventus goal).

    Bunch of players, the ball was played twice, late stage of the match.
    Well done!

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  42. Chefren7 November 2018 at 22:55

    I think Mourinho is an intelligent person but he should avoid such behavior...

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    1. Quilava7 November 2018 at 22:58

      Well, good performance from Hategan, right?

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    2. M7 November 2018 at 23:00

      That's why he is Special One. :)

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    3. Chefren7 November 2018 at 23:10

      Very good performance from Ovidiu Alin Hategan.

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  43. Ichigo7 November 2018 at 22:58

    I expected to see Hațegan in a top clash in the Nations League with a comitee Member and i bet he will be in Anfield for Liverpool-Napoli clash in lăsat round. After very good games he îs favorite to be in Baku.

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    1. Chefren7 November 2018 at 23:11

      Indeed Hategan is now a candidate for PSG - Liverpool / Liverpool - Napoli in that group.

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    2. petschovschi7 November 2018 at 23:13

      I don't want that. It's not the case to burn him from top clash to top clash. Crvean Zvezda- PSG, Shakthar- Lyon etc are safer options for him.

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    3. Bgymn8 November 2018 at 00:11

      If he shows good performance from one top match to another, there is no reason to not reward him with another one. Especially, a rising ref such as hategan. It shows that he can handle the pressure and occasion. Also, UEFA should appoint the most on form ref for these big matches.

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  44. CristiRef7 November 2018 at 23:00

    Has anyone a link with Kassai's penalty?

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    1. Chefren7 November 2018 at 23:13

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX1qGR4GtWc

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    2. Michael7 November 2018 at 23:15

      https://streamja.com/EGZ3

      They showed an angle on the post-match analysis where the AAR is pointing with his stick towards the penalty spot (can't have been for a goal kick) so IMO he's as much to blame as the referee.

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    3. CristiRef7 November 2018 at 23:26

      Thank you Chefren and Michael.
      This is simply unbelievable.

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  45. Howard Maxi7 November 2018 at 23:11

    Makkelie overall with a good performance, very strict disciplinary management. One point of critique: the 1st YC for Adams, who was sent off for a 2nd was too soft.

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    1. JR7 November 2018 at 23:30

      I think, when he didn't knew the player was already booked, while showing the second one. Maybe he would have missed this one...

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    2. Anonymous8 November 2018 at 09:26

      Highlites showed 1st YC for late tackle and 2nd YC for SPA.

      I agree with Chefren about Hategan. He deserves a big match now.

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  46. Referee 128 November 2018 at 06:52

    I am very sad about Kassai. I guess in next set of appointmnets either Europa League or he won't even be appointed. But as Chefren said, Eriksson had much more crucial mistakes and was never demoted, so it would not be fair to Kassai to demote him. I know that FIFA lists are already submited but it would be the best for him to retire.

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  47. MARIO8 November 2018 at 09:48

    IMO very solid performance yesterday night in Turin by Hategan. Ready to stop any kind of hard kicks and dissent. Strong verbal communication with the players; uniform judgment and stable for the whole match. Perfect management of cards. He has been very very good in a not easy match: 8.4 IMO
    The only negative point was the position in the field: too much close to the ball and often ha has interrupted the action (of course not voluntary). Good fitness but he run too much in the middle of the action.

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  48. MARIO8 November 2018 at 10:00

    And now the negative note: Kassai
    I always defeated him, because I'm an estimator of him due to his overall outstanding carrier but today it's really impossible even for me to justify his mistake. It's a pity but it's crazy ! Anyway I fully agree with Chefren: Eriksson demonstrated much more mistakes as well a very arrogant behavior and he was never demoted. It will not be fair to demote Kassai now especially with respect to his very long and outstanding carrier. He is 43, so he should re start from EL and make a farewell match in UCL before his retirement just if he will recover.

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    1. Mikael W8 November 2018 at 14:27

      I am sorry, I am only copy and paste what I wrote above

      I was really convinced that after Burnley - Olympiacos, Kassai was back on a high level...

      Even looking into the past, a comment on The Third Team still resonantes to me when talking about the Hungarian - 'He is a good referee in two out of three matches' - in my opinion this hits the nail.

      By the way, if anyone doesn't appreciate what a 'tragedy' this is (of course, it is no real tragedy compared to 'real' life) then please watch, his CL Final, Italy - Spain Barcelona - Milan or Germany - Italy.
      What a great referee (on his day).

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  49. Mikael W8 November 2018 at 14:26

    Hațegan was very good last night (8,5 for my taste), actually he totally convinced me.
    No doubts in my mind now, he is one of the top class referees in Europe.
    His development is very impressive in my opinion. Whereas other referees stagnated (best example, Moen but also Královec, Karasev et al.), Hațegan improved so much in the last years.
    The match that changed my opinion on him was Brazil - Iraq at the last Olympic games, he was stellar in a very challenging match, and since then he 'pushed on' so well.
    Let's see how far he can go, it should be very far if he carries on this development and more immediately this high level of form.

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  50. Ichigo8 November 2018 at 20:40

    Interesting the facts that italian newspapers are very hard with Hațegan and give him a 5, but the english newspapers praid him and give a 7. They want a RC to Matic and a penalty who could be made by Luke Shaw.

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    1. Ref8 November 2018 at 23:32

      French newspapers give him a 5 too, but they don't explain why.

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