Referee appointments for first legs of 2018-19 UEFA Champions League Quarterfinals. Games to be played on Tuesday 9 April. Thank to Kronikasedziowska.
Liverpool FC (ENG) - FC Porto (POR)
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: José María Sánchez Martínez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Eugen Strigel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Jacob Erel (ISR)
9 April 2019, 21:00 CET - London (Tottenham Hotspur Stadium)
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) - Manchester City FC (ENG)
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin Zeinstra (NED)
Fourth Official: William Collum (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jørn West Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)
Wow, what an innovation, referees who can't officiate with VAR are rewarded by being appointed as fourth officials :)
ReplyDeleteBetter than nothing for them!
In case of injury by the Referee (which I definitely hope does not occur). This would then mean that a Referee with no VAR experience would then be put into a foreign and unknown situation. IMO, not an ideal time to gain experience officiating with VAR.
DeleteThey still could continue without VAR in that case, if the missing VAR experience is such a big problem.
DeleteAnyway, I don't think, it is neccessary to use 4th officials from different countries. Maybe it makes sense, if you would only have 2nd group officials as replacement, but here you could use Undiano or del Cerro Grande / Blom, Gözübüyük or Nijhuis and still would have a good alternative.
IMO expected appointments. I agree with Chefren on fourth officials appointment. I guess in all following matches elite referees will be appointed as fourth officials.
ReplyDeleteAlso one must underline Collum for English teams, this is possible because it is a derby.
ReplyDeleteSeems strange for me as Mateu Lahoz has to officiate right now the Alavés-Leganés.
ReplyDeleteRefereeing in EPL on Saturday
ReplyDeleteBOU-BUR (Martin Atkinson)
Handball in penalty area: https://streamable.com/vgv5s
Goal; ball in play, fair challenging the GK: https://streamable.com/g3p5r
HUD-LEI (David Coote)
Goal or offside: https://streamable.com/386x0
Penalty for stamp: https://streamable.com/2uxmw
Penalty; SPA or DOGSO; attempt to play the ball? https://streamable.com/360si
MCI-BRI (Anthony Taylor)
Potential violent conduct: https://streamable.com/ylk4y
NEW-PAL (Stuart Attwell)
Goal disallowed due to offside (teamwork): https://streamable.com/5g0z5
Penalty for trip: https://streamable.com/8osjm
Atkinson: No handling. Yes arm is away from the body in an unnatural position. But the distance is very short.
DeleteGood goal. GK spills the ball without the attacker impeding him.
And a great call by that AR. The ball never went off of the pitch in its entirety.
Coote: Based on that video and angle. Offside no goal.
Correct call. It's a PK. But a call that is hard to "sell" when you're that far from the play.
DOGSO. Grabs the attacker and the tackle is nowhere near the ball.
Taylor: "To strike or attempt to strike" Red Card for VC for me.
Attwell: Offside, no goal. Player attempts to play the ball.
Correct call, penalty. But, IMO Attwell misses a foul that causes the bad pass.
@Coote: The decisive tackle is with the foot. Therefore it is an attempt to play the ball (and DOGSO) for me.
Delete@Taylor: Both colours are possible, so correctly no VAR intervention (probably Taylor had also seen the incident himself).
I agree with Sheriff on the rest.
Wayne Rooney (DC United) red card after VAR review
ReplyDeleteReferee: Robert Sibiga (USA) MLS
https://youtu.be/kTG2BPRKdyk
I don't understand how the referee could initially try to justify simply whistling the foul. But then after some protests, maybe AR or 4th Official input and possibly seeing the poor players leg. Then only deciding that Yellow was enough.
Opinions, thoughts, insight, commentary
This RC is as straightforward as it can get be, but like in a similar case earlier that day with a RC for Urruti (Referee: Ted Unkel, FIFA-listed), the ref was quite far away and had no clear view it seems. AR should have said something though (if he did not). The YCs given in both cases are most likely to punish it for now and wait for the review. VAR is a really good thing in such cases, but it shouldn't be needed for rather clear incidents like both of these.
DeleteUrruti RC for SFP: https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2019-04-06-new-york-city-fc-vs-montreal-impact/details/video/187366
Howard Maxi, I like VAR when it makes things right. But I fear a possible trend of referee's who are unwilling to make the tough correct calls hoping that VAR will save them.
DeleteSince you mention Urruti. Who like Rooney is a Designated (Star) Player in MLS. I am reminded of the unwritten rule that for a long time MLS has for its referee's. That rule was that the referee's were not to send off "star players". It makes me wonder.
Mateu with Gil Manzano and Sánchez Martínez as VAR. Perhaps it means that Del Cerro will be the referee for Ajax-Juve, with Hernánde Hernández and Martínez Munuera as VAR. Se will see
ReplyDeleteYes, that is a possible explanation.
DeleteOr UEFA disliked their work in Schalke-City.
It would be a beautiful designation
DeleteWe will see, sorry
ReplyDeleteMany people expected Mateu in one of the Ajax-Juve games, because he is the only "problemless" option. Therefore it is a bit surprising to see him in a different match, but he still could be in Turin next week. Will be interesting to see UEFA`s choices for those two legs.
ReplyDeleteI assume we will see Oliver and Taylor as 4th Officials on Ajax v Juve, one on 1st leg, other on 2nd
ReplyDeleteOliver officiating Juve match... No way that happens in a long time.
DeleteWhich is ridiculous. So much politics and arm twisting. Would end up with referees having nowhere to go if every time they make a big (correct) decision that they cannot go back there for years to come. Pathetic!
DeleteThere are plenty of other referee's available to handle Juventus who are not unpopular for questionable decisions. It's smart for the Ref Comm to not set up their officials for failure by putting them in a no win situation.
DeleteCrazy Jagiellonia Białystok (7th) v Zagłębie Sosnowiec (last, 16th) for Zbigniew Dobrynin (33yo, future FIFA?) yesterday. All that in the background of Zagłębie Sosnowiec previously accusing match officials and federation of trying to demote the team by double-standard refereeing. Huge pressure on the referees while handling ZSO's games.
ReplyDeleteGoal disallowed due to offside after VAR intervention
https://streamable.com/kl11q
Penalty for careless charge
https://streamable.com/z7kut
FK given for a trip - outside or inside the penalty area?
https://streamable.com/nndpy
Reckless or SFP? Strong dissenting behaviour of player committing the foul. Is YC enough?
https://streamable.com/t1rlm
Goal after gaining possession by undeliberate handball. Decision to allow the goal upheld after an on-field review.
https://streamable.com/z8ukq
Penalty awarded and YC issued for handball. Penalty retaken due to players' significant encroachment. Penalty retaken again and YC given to GK, after an on-field review, for GK's encroachment.
https://streamable.com/d0m5j
Offside seems correct.
DeletePenalty seems too harsh/wrong - but probably not VAR stuff
I think, inside - but could the VAR be sure?
For me, YC is enough (no malicious intend and the impact was not as strong as the player's reaction). Dissent could easily have been a 2nd YC, but no card is acceptable player management.
Not deliberate indeed, so a correct goal (but still a sensible OFR, I think).
Penalty and YC clear. First retake also unavoidable. Second retake also correct, but I am not sure, whether all VARs would intervene (they should for uniformity).
Is that allowed?
ReplyDelete"worst referee in the world."
"he thinks he is God."
www.foxsports.nl/liveblog/20190407/
It is not the first time this season Gozubuyuk has taken the spotlight and it has happened on multiple occasions with Vitesse as well. Not a good season for Gozubuyuk and in this interview, the coach actually expresses how most people in the Netherlands feel about him.
Delete"Is that allowed?"
DeleteAre you questioning whether coaches have the right to and are entitled to publicly voice their opinions of referee's?
Excellent game Gozubuyuk. Very good dogso. This Russian coach have always problems with refs. In his time in Russia when he was coach from CSKA he say : during TV program before Euro 2016, If you a Russian referee - you deserve to be punched and Hit. He say this About Russian
ReplyDeletereferees. This coach are crazy. So please dont take serious about this crazy people
Haha excellent game, you’re kidding me!! The dogso was correct but even Stevie Wonder would have called that one.l! You forgot to mention the heavily debated penalty for psv, the penalty for vitesse which was overturned to a dropped ball after a completely evident case of dangerous play (without contact indeed), a disallowed vitesse goal due to alleged offside and all major decisions going against vitesse!!
DeleteVitesse’s coach used big words and maybe he shouldn’t put it in such strong wordings, but ultimately slutsky says what many people in Holland think about Gozubuyuk and his behaviour. Today’s performance is heavily discussed here so it’s not only slutsky talking about this ref. Actually slutsky here in Holland is absolutely not known for discrediting our referees, in fact he often is quite positive.
As is apparent from my post above i largely agree with your analysis on gozubuyuk’s performance today and his behaviour in general. I however don’t agree on your appeal to dutch fa to focus on higler. In my opinion higler lacks communication skills big time, is not able to have a normal interaction with players and does not show any ‘feeling’ for the game. In today’s match between zwolle and sittard there was total inconsistency in disciplinary management and a most obvious foul was missed by him (as well as the var) leading to zwolle’s 2nd goal. As we saw in mikael’s analysis in this blog on higler in quarter final youth league he awarded barcelona a wrong and crucial penalty (‘feeling the game’).
DeleteSo all in all i don’t consider higler a better referee than gozubuyuk.
I found quite interesting Slutsky's words.
DeleteHowever, do you really think a referee must be like a "waiter" on the pitch? I don't think so.
Melero López with two PK calls and a straight RC for VC (elbow) in Celta-Real Sociedad.
ReplyDeleteYour thoughts? No VAR intervention in any of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNHULFeidMk
I found this video concerning the press conference:
ReplyDeletehttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=817697785257490&id=220365998324008
Does somebody has the video of the penalty overturn with the law error?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z7hqP9cTtQ
DeleteI don't have a video of just that moment but this is the match summary. The penalty overturn is from 1:12 onwards, at 0:38 there is the other penalty situation which causes a lot of discussion and there was another moment concerning offside which isn't in this summary. The final penalty is at 3:57 but no one has yet tried to argue about that.
OT:
ReplyDeleteWhat do you guys think about Bebek's penalty decisions?
1st one in 10 min:
https://youtu.be/y5K0divmSmg
2nd one in 90+6 min.:
https://youtu.be/y5K0divmSmg?t=403
1st-min10: penalty decision ok.
Delete2nd-min90+6: No clear wide arm movement but footage is very poor.
Both seem acceptable for me.
DeleteFirst one correct, defender's stupidity, referees are reminded to be very strict about holding.
DeletePoor footage of the second incident, but:
a) ball played from a long distance
b) ball was expected
c) player had enough time to avoid a contact.
So, at least acceptable penalty award for my taste.
All penalties and red card given in the Champions League R16 leg 2 matches:
ReplyDeleteJuventus v Atletico -
https://streamable.com/uwmjk
Porto v Roma -
https://streamable.com/8r28v
https://streamable.com/38chn
PSG v Manchester United -
https://streamable.com/glj51
Manchester City v Schalke -
https://streamable.com/jwmki
Barcelona v Lyon -
https://streamable.com/xbn9v
Real Madrid v Ajax - Nacho red card
https://streamable.com/4iurn
"The decision was supported by VAR with an additional On-field-review."
ReplyDeleteThat sounds strange. If the VAR recommended an OFR, he did not really support the decision, but rather doubted it, I think.
If the VAR really supports the decision, why do they need an OFR?
OFR was not needed IMO, RC was correct.
ReplyDeleteClear penalty for handball reported by Makkelie to Kuipers.
ReplyDeleteOFR by Kuipers in the 11 minute for possible handball in the penalty area. Penalty and YC given. Thoughts?
ReplyDeleteNo doubts that this handball was punishable in my opinion.
DeleteI agree Chefren, 100% correct decision to award a penalty for an out stretched arm by Rose, arm in an unnatural position that makes the body bigger. YC also correct as blocked a shot on goal
DeleteNow Kuipers rejected two penalty appeals by Tottenham in a row: in both situations, the decisions are OK.
ReplyDeleteGood call by VAR, clear penalty, I think Kuipers missed it completely
ReplyDeleteMateu Lahoz with one YC for dissent already.
ReplyDeleteFully justified, the player had been warned before.
DeleteYes, indeed, but it is not very common at that moment of the match!
DeleteI think correct decision to consider this handball in Mateu's game as not punishable.
ReplyDeleteBall to hand. Good decision.
DeleteCould this penalty become punishable next year?
DeleteCheck for possible handball in the LIV-POR game. No VAR intervention
ReplyDeleteThe foul committed by Sterling on Son in 42' was a hold. Kuipers gave a DFK outside the penalty area. The replays I saw suggested that the hold continued into the penalty area. Was surprised Makkelie didn't intervene.
ReplyDeleteLooked to me as though the hold did NOT continue into the penalty area. Be assured the VAR would have intervened if it had.
DeleteI must admit that Kuipers' way of handling the games is my favourite of all current refs. Very self-confident but not arrogant, no problems with reviewing the incident, accepting and changing a mistake (no big ego issue), natural authority and presence. One of the greatest ever, if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteOf course, no penalty would have been a mistake and nice that Makkelie intervened. However, one replay was shown indicating that Lloris had both feet off the line in the moment of penalty execution. I don't know how VARs have been instructed by UEFA, but the VAR protocol says that such infringement should be reviewed...
Liverpool goal disallowed by AR2 Cebrián Devís and confirmed by VAR, looked like a difficult decision.
ReplyDeleteGreat and difficult decision!
DeleteI think it was AR1.
DeleteYes, he is AR1, but the name is the correct one.
DeleteSFP missed in 55' min after Kane got injured?
ReplyDeleteNo way that Delph could be blamed for Kane’s injury. He played the ball in a fair manner and after that his foot has to land somewhere. That it lands on Kane’s ankle is because Kane puts moves leg there. A very unfortunate coming together, but Delph cannot be blamed for that.
DeleteAnother possible handball in LIV-POR. VAR checked and decided play on was OK. Live didn't look like it to me.
ReplyDeleteSome things to be checked for this goal scored by Tottenham.
ReplyDeleteMaybe extremely tight offside by upper body? And then ball out?
Gol has been confirmed, very quick work by VAR.
DeleteEverything was clear. Correct decision.
DeleteVery lacklustre disciplinary management by Mateu Lahoz. For me, missed RC for Salah for SFP.
ReplyDeleteI saw the replay afterwards but missed the live situation. Is there a technical reason why VAR could not intervene? It looked like a RC
DeleteMissed RC by Mateu Lahoz on Salah. I really don't understand why Gil Manzano didn't intervene there.
ReplyDeleteIMO, both officials missed the incident because of the previous penalty appeal. Mateu was focused on warning Felipe and didn't really pay attention to the foul. Gil Manzano was possible still reviewing the previous situation.
DeleteLooks like there was no intensity, Porto player wasn't hurt. In slow motion it looks like clear RC, but in live it is dark orange. Lahoz missed it completely. The problem is that every suspicious decision was against Porto and in favor of Liverpool.
Delete@George Well in that case it is AVAR job.
DeleteAlso not to say the very high threshold that we have in Spain regarding VAR interventions. If there was a way to justify a YC (hit on the protection), then they would not intervene, even if that argument is quite poor.
Delete@Nathan M. Yes, I know, but it was just a possible explanation.
DeleteI go with Teo, very borderline but he didn’t stretch out to make full contact. Apart from that Salah was held just before and during his action. Altogether I can understand Gil Manzano not stepping in, orange card.
DeleteThis idea of certain tackles not having "intensity" and thus not being worthy of a Red Card is preposterous. Does a leg need to break in order for there be enough intensity?
DeleteI get the feeling that for some of you, if there's no blood and no broken bones. Then it's not Red Card worthy. What about player safety and their physical well being? Something you all seem not to care about.
Orange card? But he didn’t even give him yellow.. which means he probably didn’t see it and that var should have intervened.
ReplyDeleteWell, we don't know exactly.
DeleteEither Mateu saw the contact - then it is a quite poor decision not even to give a YC.
Or Mateu missed it - then the VAR should recommend an OFR unless he is convinced, that it is not a RC (which he should not be here, I think).
In any case, missed YC for Salah is a very significant mistake.
ReplyDeleteI think UEFA would have liked an intervention there.
More red than yellow, without doubts.
Should be reviewed, I agree. IMO this kind of decisions should always make the man in the middle and not the VAR ref. If Mateu goes with YC, OK with me. Dangerous tackle - with just a little more intensity, the leg would be probably broken.
DeleteCouldn't see this incident on the extended highlights. What minute was it?
DeleteSorry but how can you tolerate this kind of tackle with only YC accepted? That’s quite criminal to let this foul without nothing or simply caution when you see replays. Lahoz didn’t see action like we saw on tv but this is a clear positionning issue and VAR’s passivity here isn’t acceptable at all.
DeleteThis is the challenge from Salah. For me this is a red card offence.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/6hh77
Agreed. That is a text book Red Card. Straight legged, studs first, midway up the shin. Very similar to Wayne Rooney's and Urrutti's Red Cards this past weekend in MLS.
DeleteFor Lahoz to not show a card at all IMO opinion is unacceptable. And for the VAR to not intervene is even further unacceptable. Lahoz didn't have the luxury of replay. But when you're that close to that type of tackle, you've gotta punish the guilty player. VAR on the other hand had replay. No excuse for them not to have intervened.
Unacceptable mistake by spanish crew here. We have a 2-0 score, Salah is one of the most important players of Liverpool and must be sent off here without any doubts. And he should miss second leg after this potential terrible foul. Crucial mistake by Lahoz and his VAR’s team : 7,9 here.
ReplyDeleteI rewatched some situations in Kuipers game.
ReplyDelete24' please take a look at the excellent advantage given by the Dutch
42' the holding ends exactly when player joins penalty area, for sure VAR watched even more replays than what we saw on TV, so you can't have doubts, this was a "norla routine" duty for Makkelie.
55' the injury of Kane is just a consequence of his late attempt to play the ball when opponent had already kicked it, no faults at all for Manchester City's player, who couldn't be aware in any case of Kane, so absolutely no foul for me. It is however particular to see that if one considers the mere action and isolates it, there aren't doubts that in normal condition this should have been RC. But again, I fully agree with VAR here, Kane did everything by himself.
Thoughts on the Kane Fernandinho conflict 40' repeated intentional contact to the head (initial unlikely but then elbow and hand to the head) and possibly retaliation by either. Var don't seem to say anything, and Fernandinho's body is between him and Kuipers. Perhaps not needed as game was well controlled without and at least somewhat mutual but could have implications next leg.
DeleteSalah incident was a CLEAR RC offence
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