16:50CET - Krasnodar (Stadion "Krasnodar")
FC Krasnodar (RUS) - FC Basel 1893 (SUI) | Group C
Referee: Robert Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David Roome (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Fourth Official: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Fritz Stuchlik (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Konul Mehtiyeva (AZE)
16:50CET - Trabzon (Şenol Güneş Spor Kompleksi Medical Park Stadyumu)
Trabzonspor (TUR) - Getafe CF (ESP) | Group C
Referee: Andris Treimanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 1: Haralds Gudermanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleksejs Spasjonnikovs (LVA)
Fourth Official: Aleksandrs Golubevs (LVA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marinus Koopman (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Octavian Goga (ROU)
16:50CET - Nur-Sultan (Astana Arena)
FC Astana (KAZ) - Manchester United FC (ENG) | Group L
Referee: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Donatas Šimenas (LTU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Andrejs Sipailo (LVA)
UEFA Delegate: Metin Kazancioglu (TUR)
18:55CET - Rotterdam (Stadion Feijenoord)
Feyenoord (NED) - Rangers FC (SCO) | Group G
Referee: Damir Skomina (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert Vukan (SVN)
Fourth Official: Asmir Sagrković (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Andrey Medintsev (BUL)
18:55CET - Berne (Stade de Suisse Wankdorf)
BSC Young Boys (SUI) - FC Porto (POR) | Group G
Referee: Tamás Bognar (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor (HUN)
Fourth Official: Peter Solymosi (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci (ALB)
UEFA Delegate: Ronit Glasman (ISR)
18:55CET - Budapest (Groupama Aréna)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN) - RCD Espanyol de Barcelona (ESP) | Group H
Referee: Tiago Bruno Lopes Martins (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Luís André Ferreira Pinto Campos (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Miguel Almeida Mota (POR)
Fourth Official: Luís Miguel Branco Godinho (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Paulius Malžinskas (LTU)
UEFA Delegate: Ísak Mikladal (FRO)
18:55CET - Moscow (VEB Arena)
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) - PFC Ludogorets 1945 (BUL) | Group H
Referee: Jakob Kehlet (DEN)
Assistant Referee 1: Lars Hummelgaard (DEN)
Assistant Referee 2: Heine Sørensen (DEN)
Fourth Official: Jens Maae (DEN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nuno Castro (POR)
UEFA Delegate: George Fantaros (CYP)
18:55CET - Lviv (Arena Lviv)
FC Oleksandriya (UKR) - VfL Wolfsburg (GER) | Group I
Referee: Manuel Schüttengruber (AUT)
Assistant Referee 1: Roland Brandner (AUT)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert Steinacher (AUT)
Fourth Official: Rene Eisner (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jan W. Wegereef (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Marko Simeunovic (SVN)
18:55CET - Saint-Étienne (Stade Geoffroy Guichard)
AS Saint-Étienne (FRA) - KAA Gent (BEL) | Group I
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Admir Šehović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: John Ward (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)
18:55CET - Graz (Merkur Arena)
RZ Pellets Wolfsberger AC (AUT) - Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) | Group J
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Charl Schaap (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Luciano Luci (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Edy Kindle (LIE)
18:55CET - Istanbul (3. İstanbul Başakşehir Fatih Terim Stadyumu)
Medipol Başakşehir FK (TUR) - AS Roma (ITA) | Group J
Referee: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sebastian Colţescu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sergey Zuev (RUS)
UEFA Delegate: František Laurinec (SVK)
18:55CET - Braga (Estádio Municipal de Braga)
SC Braga (POR) - Wolverhampton Wanderers FC (ENG) | Group K
Referee: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dmitri Zhuk (BLR)
Assistant Referee 2: Oleg Maslyanko (BLR)
Fourth Official: Denis Scherbakov (BLR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bo Karlsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER)
18:55CET - Istanbul (Vodafone Park)
Beşiktaş JK (TUR) - ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK) | Group K
Referee: Enea Jorgji (ALB)
Assistant Referee 1: Ridiger Çokaj (ALB)
Assistant Referee 2: Rejdi Avdo (ALB)
Fourth Official: Eldorjan Hamiti (ALB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kevin Azzopardi (MLT)
UEFA Delegate: Matthew Paris (MLT)
18:55CET - The Hague (Cars Jeans Stadion)
AZ Alkmaar (NED) - FK Partizan (SRB) | Group L
Referee: Daniel Stefański (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Marcin Boniek (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Dawid Igor Golis (POL)
Fourth Official: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ferenc Székely (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Nikoloz Jgarkava (GEO)
21:00CET - Luxembourg (Stade Josy Barthel)
F91 Dudelange (LUX) - APOEL FC (CYP) | Group A
Referee: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Giorgio Peretti (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Giorgio Schenone (ITA)
Fourth Official: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Domagoj Vučkov (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Vakhtang Bzikadze (GEO)
21:00CET - Seville (Estadio Ramón Sánchez-Pizjuán)
Sevilla FC (ESP) - Qarabağ FK (AZE) | Group A
Referee: Mohammed Al-Hakim (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Fredrik Klyver (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Fourth Official: Martin Strömbergsson (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Laurent Duhamel (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Daniel Zaharia (ROU)
21:00CET - St. Gallen (Kybunpark)
FC Lugano (SUI) - FC København (DEN) | Group B
Referee: Aleksei Eskov (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Dmitri Mosyakin (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Valeri Danchenko (RUS)
Fourth Official: Vladislav Bezborodov (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Vignir Már Thormódsson (ISL)
21:00CET - Malmö (Stadion)
Malmö FF (SWE) - FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) | Group B
Referee: Pavel Královec (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivo Nadvornik (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomáš Mokrusch (CZE)
Fourth Official: Miroslav Zelinka (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Neale Barry (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Vilmos Szabó (HUN)
21:00CET - Trondheim (Lerkendal Stadion)
Rosenborg BK (NOR) - Linzer ASK (AUT) | Group D
Referee: Giorgi Kruashvili (GEO)
Assistant Referee 1: Zaza Menteshashvili (GEO)
Assistant Referee 2: Giorgi Elikashvili (GEO)
Fourth Official: Georgi Vadachkoria (GEO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jan Carlsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Scilla Gennaro (ITA)
21:00CET - Lisbon (Estádio José Alvalade)
Sporting CP (POR) - PSV Eindhoven (NED) | Group D
Referee: Orel Grinfeld (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Roy Hassan (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Idan Yarkoni (ISR)
Fourth Official: Roi Reinshreiber (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Erol Ersoy (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Michael O'Brien (ENG)
21:00CET - Rome (Stadio Olimpico)
SS Lazio (ITA) - CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU) | Group E
Referee: Ali Palabıyık (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Serkan Olguncan (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Çem Satman (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Malcolm (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Dennis Cruise (IRL)
21:00CET - Glasgow (Celtic Park)
Celtic FC (SCO) - Stade Rennais FC (FRA) | Group E
Referee: Espen Eskås (NOR)
Assistant Referee 1: Jon-Michael Knutsen (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Øystein Ytterland (NOR)
Fourth Official: Rohit Saggi (NOR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Cyril Zimmermann (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Iveta Bankova (BUL)
21:00CET - Guimarães (Estádio D. Afonso Henriques)
Vitória SC (POR) - Royal Standard de Liège (BEL)| Group F
Referee: Serhiy Boiko (UKR)
Assistant Referee 1: Semen Shlonchak (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Viktor Matyash (UKR)
Fourth Official: Yevhenii Aranovskiy (UKR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alon Yefet (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Jeannette Good (FIN)
21:00CET - London (Emirates Stadium)
Arsenal FC (ENG) - Eintracht Frakfurt (GER) | Group F
Referee: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Guillaume Debart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Julien Pacelli (FRA)
Fourth Official: Frank Schneider (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Charles Schaack (LUX)
Great appointment for Peljto :D
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The referee for Trabzonspor - Getafe is unknown.
ReplyDeleteWill be Pinheiro (POR)?
DeleteSome notes: interesting to see Serhiy Boyko again in an important game, after the crucial mistake by AR2 on MD4. The Ukrainian is now appointed again with different assistant referees. With Collina, there was a trend to stop the whole crew of officials in case of such blatant and decisive mistakes. But of course no responsibility at all here for Boyko, all had to be assessed properly by AR2.
ReplyDeleteKulbakov after a not so good performance in Atalanta - Manchester City gets Europa League, I was curious about his next appointment. The situation in the group suggests that maybe this game wont be important at all with both the teams involved almost already qualified.
Královec is back also in club competitions after his game in EURO qualifiers, maybe in case of good performance he will get another game on MD6, also to recover form.
Ovidiu Hațegan last game before Club World Cup will be in Europa League, but in this case it will be more than a CL assignment. Very, very crucial situation in this group involving Roma, and you all remember the mistake by Collum that still directly affects the standings. It will be a tough test for the Romanian and I think also with a very hot atmosphere. Without VAR also even more difficult...
Skomina in Europa League after a not convincing set of games in CL (my personal opinion).
Madden with many assignments, in a way I think we can say he even replaced Collum somewhere, after the mistake made in Roma - Borussia M. by the latter.
Gianluca Rocchi will be the referee with AR1 Giorgio Peretti AR2 Giorgio Schenone and 4th Paolo Valeri for the game between Dudelang (LUX)-APOEL (CYP)
DeleteΣτην ΟΥΕΦΑ διόρθωσαν το λάθος τους μετά τον άστοχο ορισμό των Τούρκων.
ΒΟΗΘΟΙ διαιτητές:Giorgio Peretti, Giorgio Schenone και 4ος ο Paolo Valeri.
Maybe UEFA realized that assigning a referee from Turkey for a Cypriot team was not a so good thing?
DeleteThat's true.
DeleteI didn't expect such a mistake by Rosetti.
DeleteThat is really a huge mistake for Rosetti. 1-assigning a Turkish ref for a Cypriot Team never happened. It might be understood if everything was resolved in the group but not yet. 2- more important Apoel is racing with Qarabag for the second place in the group. Qarabag is Azerbaijani team and Azerbaijan is a Turkic nation. Out of 24 games appointing a Turkish referee to this game is a huge mistake of UEFA Ref Committee.
DeleteIt will be Treimanis in Trabzon, I think that in case of good performance it will be possible to see him again on MD6 maybe in CL as he skipped some matchdays for U17 World Cup.
ReplyDeleteThis is only his second appointment in EL group stage this season, no CL appearances.
Also another thing I wanted to say is that it seems at moment Buquet is ahead of Bastien in terms of consideration by committee, very important and sonorous clash in London with Frankfurt still fighting for qualification. I think we can't exclude that Buquet could get an Elite promotion as third French referee.
Is this DOGSO and RC or not?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyidUIVWlos&t=568
1. The attacker is rapid winger and the keeper is fat & slow.
2. Balll by kicked defender seems to accelerate a little after second bound.
On this case referee judged not DOGSO and YC. VAR did't intervene.
(I'm curious to know, referees judge by player's foot speed or stronger leg?)
Very interesting case. Indeed here one must try to understand (this is in my opinion the main assessment to do) who will reach the ball before. Stopping video at moment of the foul, I see that attacker is closer to ball than keeper, but only for a very shot space. I think this is rather RC but never a clear mistake exactly for the reason we explained. One can't be sure who will reach the ball. So VAR is right in supporting.
DeleteMaybe from the pitch, RC better decision... but not black or white situation.
thanks Chefren. If the attacker and the keeper is same foot speed, I think so too... But anyway, it's an assumption.
DeleteAt the moment of the foul, the attacker is much closer to the ball than the goalkeeper. IMHO clear red card for DOGSO.
DeleteIFFHS Awards for 2019.
ReplyDeleteWOMEN
1 Stephanie FRAPPART France 233
2 Anastasia PUSTOVOITOVA Russia 93
3 Bibiana STEINHAUS Germany 75
4 Edina Alves BATISTA Brazil 45
5 Sara PERSSON Sweden 35
6 Kateryna MONZUL Ukraine 20
7 Riem HUSSEIN Germany 17
8 Esther STAUBLI Switzerland 15
8 Claudia UMPIERREZ Uruguay 15
10 Katalin KULCSAR Hungary 9
11 Marie Soleil BEAUDOIN Canada 8
12 Jana ADAMKOVA Czech Republic 6
13 Emikar Virginia CALDERAS Venezuela 3
13 Lina LEHTOVAARA Finland 3
15 Sian MASSEY-ELLIS England 2
15 Lucila VENEGAS Mexico 2
17 Salome DI IORIO Argentina 1
17 Kate JACEWICZ Australia 1
17 Anne Marie KEIGHLEY New Zealand 1
17 Ekaterina KOROLEVA USA 1
17 Glagys LENGWE Zambia 1
MEN
1 Damir SKOMINA Slovenia 136
2 Felix BRYCH Germany 129
3 Björn KUIPERS Netherlands 61
4 Gianluca ROCCHI Italy 58
5 Cuneyt CAKIR Turkey 47
6 Nestor PITANA Argentina 38
7 Antonio MAHEU LAHOZ Spain 23
7 Clement TURPIN France 23
9 Martin ATKINSON England 21
10 Michael OLIVER England 18
11 Jesus GIL MANZANO Spain 16
12 Alireza FAGHANI Iran 13
13 Danny MAKKELIE Netherlands 10
14 Felix ZWAYER Germany 9
15 Roberto TOBAR VARGAS Chile 8
16 Mark GEIGER USA 7
17 Sidi ALIOUM Cameroon 5
17 Mario ESCOBAR TOCA Guatemala 5
17 Ravshan IRMATOV Uzbekistan 5
17 Milorad MAZIC Serbia 5
21 Bakary Papa GASSAMA Gambia 4
21 Cesar RAMOS Mexico 4
23 Ovidiu HATEGAN Romania 3
23 Daniele ORSATTO Italy 3
23 Wilton SAMPAIO Brazil 3
23 Anthony TAYLOR England 3
27 Abdulrahman AL JASSIM Qatar 1
27 Bobby MADEN Scotland 1
27 Alberto Undimo MALLENCO Spain 1
27 Simon MARCINIAK Poland 1
Orsatto... Simon Marciniak... Maheu Lahoz... better not to comment there.
DeleteAtkinson, Mazic and Irmatov.....
DeleteNo comment.
Gil Manzano AND Undiano Mallenco over Del Cerro Grande, who doesn't appear on the list. Just a fun joke.
DeleteWell..., they clearly should ask law 5 the ref blog readers to vote. It would be way more accurate :D:D
DeleteAtkinson over Oliver and Taylor is just the biggest joke.
DeleteGenerally IFFHS publishes his score begin of the new year
DeleteWhy this year they have published so early ? Is it official ?
Lack of clarity among voters !
ReplyDeleteThree situations from serie A game Sampdoria - Udinese.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/spajf
Controversial goal's celebration with VAR gesture made twice. Before this goal, the player had scored but then VAR had disallowed it. So in my opinion this is a clear offence against officials and YC must be issued. Unknown whether AR or maybe FO saw it.
YC for reckless challenge
https://streamable.com/7s25z
In my opinion the contact is almost inexistent but referee can be deceived live. The player later in the game will get second YC and he will be sent off (second card was very clear).
https://streamable.com/oynsg
OFR for a missed penalty, very quick intervention by VAR, only a few seconds were needed there. Among the quickest VAR interventions for assigning a missed penalty on the pitch.
Disallowed goal after VAR intervention in Hannover - Darmstadt. https://streamable.com/p7kz3
ReplyDeleteIMO quite interesting situation and interpretation of new rules.
1) Is crucial here that the ball deflected of the defender before hitting referee? (change of posession? )
2) Was that really advantage gained by hitting the referee? (for example if we imagine that ball didnt deflect from the defender)
Its unusual if we watch football aspect, because neither was that defender block real posession, nor was ball 30 m from goal such advantage, its more pure inspiration of the player to shoot from there.
I fully agree. If If IFAB wants to cancel these scores, I think it better that they should rewrite the rules. In the current rules intervention of VAR is IMO incorrect.
DeleteIt was technically a change of possession, because the ball was deflected by the blue player - it was also a dropped ball for the blue team because of that.
DeleteTherefore a mandatory decision and because it started the APP, I would say also a mandatory VAR intervention, because it is not excluded in the VAR protocol.
I assume, the referee did notice his touch, but not the previous deflection (he already turned away). Therefore he didn't know about the change of possession until the VAR informed him.
Domagoj Vuckov from Croatia will observe Rocchi
ReplyDeleteRocchi finish in December.
DeleteAl-Hakim - Duhamel
DeleteEskov - Garibian
Kralovec - Barry
Madden - Stuchlik
Treimanis - Koopman
Grinfeld - Ersoy
Kruashvili - Carlsen
Eskas - Zimmermann
Palabiyik - Malcolm
Buquet - Fernandez Marin
Boiko - Yefet
Skomina - Plautz
Bognar - Jareci
Martins - Malzinskas
Kehlet - Castro
Peljto - Ward
Schuttengruber - Wegereef
Gozubuyuk - Luci
Hategan - Zuev
Kulbakov - Karlsson
Jorgji - Azzopardi
Stefanski - Szekely
Rumsas - Sipailo
Thank you :)
DeleteSo Bo Karlsson with Kulbakov is the most interesting observation there, if you ask me. Maybe this is a test to understand whether the Belarusan can have chances for EURO or not... but in my opinion committee didn't choose a very suitable game to do that.
ReplyDeleteReferees who took part in UEFA's VAR Training Course not already having been trained by their domestic associations have now finished their training.
ReplyDeleteFull list can be found here:
law5-theref.blogspot.com/2019/11/uefa-var-training-course.html
I note carefully that the Rosetti-observed Nikola Dabanović didn't get a game on Thursday. Maybe Harald Lechner, no game on Thursday, could (finally) reach CL also; good performance in the Trabzonspor - Krasnodar game, but he did made a mess of CYPSCO match in EURO Qualifying.
Can we (Law 5 users) vote our next 2019 referee ?
ReplyDeleteOT:
ReplyDeleteReferee appointments for the Hyundai A-League match-day 8
Melbourne Victory v Perth Glory
Friday, 29 November 2019
AAMI Park, Melbourne
Kick-Off: 7:30pm (Local) (7:30pm (AEDT))
Referee: Alex King
Assistant Referee 1: Wilson Brown
Assistant Referee 2: Andrew Meimarakis
Fourth Official: Adam Bavcar
VAR: Kris Griffiths-Jones
Brisbane Roar v Central Coast Mariners
Saturday, 30 November 2019
Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
Kick-Off: 4:00pm (Local) (5:00pm (AEDT))
Referee: Ben Abraham (2nd ever A-League game)
Assistant Referee 1: David Walsh
Assistant Referee 2: Andrew Lindsay (FIFA)
Fourth Official: Adam Kersey
VAR: Craig Zetter
Newcastle Jets v Western Sydney Wanderers
Saturday, 30 November 2019
McDonald Jones Stadium, Newcastle
Kick-Off: 7:30pm (Local) (7:30pm (AEDT))
Referee: Kurt Ams (FIFA)
Assistant Referee 1: Andrej Giev
Assistant Referee 2: Brad Wright
Fourth Official: Katie Patterson
VAR: Alex King
Western United FC v Sydney FC
Sunday, 1 December 2019
GMHBA Stadium, Geelong
Kick-Off: 4:00pm (Local) (4:00pm (AEDT))
Referee: Stephen Lucas
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Ilievski
Assistant Referee 2: Tony Peart
Fourth Official: Jack Morgan
VAR: Craig Zetter
Adelaide United v Wellington Phoenix
Sunday, 1 December 2019
Coopers Stadium, Adelaide
Kick-Off: 5:30pm (Local) (6:00pm (AEDT))
Referee: Adam Fielding
Assistant Referee 1: Paul Cetrangolo
Assistant Referee 2: Josh Mannella
Fourth Official: Daniel Elder
VAR: Kris Griffiths-Jones
Every penalty and red card from Champions League Match-day 5:
ReplyDeleteAtalanta v Dinamo Zagreb -
https://streamable.com/uk5zw
Crvena zvezda v Bayern Munich - Is it a handball under new guidelines?
https://streamable.com/cajwl
Galatasaray v Club Brugge - Only red cards of MD5 came in this game.
https://streamable.com/b7ed4
https://streamable.com/r504b
https://streamable.com/plvan
Valencia v Chelsea - Who fouls who here?
https://streamable.com/3ioum
Slavia Prague v Inter Milan -
https://streamable.com/5thmj
RB Leipzig v Benfica - Should this have been a red card?
https://streamable.com/5sdqi
A possible penalty from the same game not given -
https://streamable.com/nz3fc
*Plus some extra stuff involving VAR
Real Madrid v Paris Saint-Germain -
https://streamable.com/cgeds
Crvena zvezda v Bayern Munich -
https://streamable.com/9rvi2
Lille v Ajax - Proabably the smoothest use of VAR in MD5
https://streamable.com/ecb5z
Excellent work, Jackson.
DeleteVery interesting incidents.
About Gil Manzano, the penalty whistled is for sure supportable, I think one can't be sure of ball possession so OK YC under this point of view. Otherwise VAR should have intervened. But one must also add that the foul is very soft.
I agree with the opinions written live yesterday by some readers.
About the possible penalty in 34', the first thing I want to say is that this push has by far more and more clear effects than Marcelo's situation Real - PSG, but it is not still VAR stuff. And I fully agree with VAR. However, in this case, the last replay suggests me that penalty would have been absolutely best option here. What I can praise is the management of Gil Manzano who was very convinced about his call and he also explained the reasons to players by making gestures, this can help him in selling decision.
A short comment on Lille - Ajax as well: very good by VAR. I praise this call. Not easy. This is why VAR is there.
If you look closely at the Lille - Ajax incident: I think Brych knew that there was a potential handball just before the goal and you can see how he moves his whistle to his mouth before the ball enters the net and during the Ajax celebration, you see Brych already having contact with VAR. I think he was not sure enough and waited, because he did not want to make a wrong decision and steal an obvious goal-scoring opportunity with that.
DeleteI'm at a loss. What seemed correct yesterday (Kuipers and Marciniak penalty) after carefully studying the video looks like errors.
DeleteTo be honest I have doubts that Slavia penalty was enough for VAR intervention, I'm not sure, I have the idea that in serie A this wouldn't be called... but for sure there are strong arguments to consider it as relevant for VAR intervention and the key question is: did Marciniak see another thing? In that case, Gil intervention would be even more justified.
DeleteIncident of the referee Turpin BAR-DOR, crosses the pass line caused by a ground ball.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/1qk9s
Possession didn't change and it didn't create a promising attack. But it is howeverjustified to stop the game, because the referee fell down.
DeletePK for handball by Hategan.
ReplyDeleteAre you really sure that was foul ?
ReplyDeleteIf it wasn't foul, I don't know what a foul is.
ReplyDeleteNot only it was a clear push, but also RC as it’s definitely not a genuine attempt
ReplyDeleteArm is stretched but it’s a natural position, imho.
ReplyDeleteWe’ve seen worse penalties than this, like the one in Belgrade
@Marco Neri are you fan of AS Roma ? As I remember you are from Roma.
ReplyDeleteI'm watching Sky Diretta Gol, italian TV. After the re-plays, the italian commentator said "maybe not enough for a penalty". Live, my impression was penalty. After I watched re-plays I say: ""grey-area".
Minute 63
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree, clear penalty.
Not the best night for Hategan and his team
You remember correctly but I can still argue and think out of schemes. You can see my other comments, I always try to be at least objective. If that happened on the midfield, everyone would’ve whistled a foul.
ReplyDeleteIs there a push? Yes
Is is preventing the attacker from shooting? Yes
Is it a genuine attempt? No
That’s it
And again, I don’t accept that anyone could think that what I write is biased by my team.
ReplyDelete2nd YC for Ngadeu by Peljto.
ReplyDeleteGreat decision.
DeleteIn 46. I think a penalty for Wolfsberg missed by Guzubuyuk after tripping by defender Monchengladbach. No ball, only opponent.
ReplyDeleteDies is the video
Deletehttps://streamable.com/u1dtk
AR2 should have spotted this penalty.
DeletePenalty to Standard Liegi clear simulation, Boyko whistled penalty.
ReplyDeleteHaving watched the replay multiple times, there actually may have been a slight contact between goalkeeper and player. Clearly he wanted the penalty, but perhaps there was sufficient reason to not call it a clear error
DeleteOT
ReplyDeleteI have published a fresh 6 minutes long video interview with the 2019 FIFA U-17 World Cup final referee Andris Treimanis (LVA; UEFA 1st) on my YouTube channel. It's in Latvian with English subtitles (has to be turned on as option). Treimanis talks about differences in usage of VAR in FIFA and UEFA, the penalty incident in the final, how many didn't know where he's from in the beginning but then he became the 'winner' and more.
Link to the video interview: https://youtu.be/uoo7ytOLO-0.
(The interview is created by Sportacentrs.com, I have only published it on YouTube and added English subtitles. Match situations are clipped due to copyrights. Here's a video of the penalty incident: https://streamable.com/wcem2.)
I hope you'll enjoy and please like the video if you do. ;)
Maybe he could be a candidate for Elite promotion in december after Rocchi's retirement?
DeleteThank you so much. I recommend all readers to watch this video.
DeleteI hope that Treimanis was allowed to say what he indeed said in this video. It is very interesting.
So there is a clear difference between UEFA VAR and FIFA VAR. UEFA wants VAR to be used only in VERY CLEAR MISTAKES with an EVIDENCE, while FIFA is more flexible and if there is the chance, they don't deny to offer a second assessment to referee. So in a way this could also explain VAR decision to invite referee to monitor in Brazil - France semifinal. Definitely totally differenf from UEFA.
Also interesting to hear that in case of UEFA - CONMEBOL / CONCACAF final in this tournament a referee from UEFA couldn't have handled the final due to confederations neutrality rule. A pool of some trios was ready for this final.
So we can assume that maybe also in other FIFA tournaments there are many factors to decide an appointment, a referee is almost never the real first choice and maybe it can be "only" (not in case of Treimanis who I'm sure deserved that) the unique chance given the teams in contention.
For sure one of the most interesting interviews I never heard, there are some detailed insights, and I repeat myself I hope he was allowed to make such statements. We can understand many things...
The sane at the Euros where Clattenburg and Kassai knew they were to be involved but the outcome of the Wales semi final decided who did the game
DeleteI think Howard Webb was also one of 3 or 4 considered for 2010WC final dependant on how the semis went
Ex Eng Ref - There was also Mazic in the game for that EURO. Si Wales losing got Clattenburg for final.
DeleteBut Nicola Rizzoli is a big exception to this theory. He was always going to ref that final except Italy made it to the 2014 final. My opinion
Delete@Quilava My personal opinion is that it would be too early. But it wouldn't be a big surprise if that happened.
Delete@Chefren You're welcome! Indeed, Treimanis told tons of interesting, insightful and revealing information in only 6 minutes, imagine how much we would learn if the interview was longer... that would be fantastic. BTW, Treimanis has always been and is very active in the Latvian media. Until now he has featured in this interview, a half an hour long vlog, a > 20 min TV interview, two > 10 min interviews to state TV and more (total lenght ~ 1 h 50 min). (But everything is in Latvian and not as interesting as this interview.) He's perceived really well here (probably also his activity that I mentioned is a part of the reasons), basically many say he's the best 'thing' Latvian football currently has, and it is hard to disagree with that. I really like his personality.
When I watched the video for the first time and he started talking about the differences in usage of VAR in FIFA and UEFA I literally froze in surprise. I wasn't expecting him to say something that revealing, and I, just as you, hope (and also think) he was allowed to say that. Here I also have to say that IMO it is not normal that the use differs that much.
Mohammed Al-Hakim, oh my God what a ref !!!!!!! excellent
ReplyDeleteGood call by AR1 in Rome, disallowed 1-1, very important decision.
ReplyDeleteTurkish Referee Committee has been sending Ali Palabıyık to the most important matches since last year. I think they're preparing him for the Elite category.
ReplyDeleteAny words about Skomina perfomance?
ReplyDeleteAn analysis about Champions League Matchday 6 games.
ReplyDeleteBefore making predictions, I would like to know whether you agree on my thoughts.
Group A:
How much importance will be given to third place fight between Club Brugge and Galatasaray? All the rest is decided. I think that both games, Club Brugge - Real Madrid and PSG - Galatasaray are on a similar level, Category 1 should be enough there, but maybe not debuts.
Group B:
Olympiacos - Crvena Zvezda a direct play off for third place, a very important goal for both teams, so here an Elite referee would be justified. In the other game, Bayern - Tottenham, a debut is possible. It will be very fascinating in case, for the appointed referee.
Group C:
The most interesting and open group. Here absolutely no risks by committee as everything can still happen for three teams. Both games in Zagreb and Charkiv will have Elite referees.
Group D:
Atlético and Bayer fighting for second place, both playing at home against teams without targets. So the appointments for both games could be very similar. Maybe the game in Madrid could be a bit easier for home-team than Bayer - Juventus, but one can't say that before. I expect similar appointments, two Elite referees I think.
Group E:
Salzburg - Liverpool is a direct play off. Clearly a top Elite referee will be there. In the other game, 1 point is needed by Italian side to qualify, at home against Genk, already eliminated. In this case I think we will see a Category 1.
Group F:
Inter and Dortmund fighting for second place. On paper, easier task for German side, but in any case they should do a better result than Inter. So the main target by committee will be in Milan, with another top name there. In Dortmund, I think Category 1 referee.
Group G:
Similar situation to previous group, Benfica - Zenit with the big focus by committee, as Zenit is ahead and Lyon's qualification depends from this result. For sure Elite referee in Lisbon, maybe also in Lyon.
Group H:
Both games are important with three teams still in contention. Of course Ajax - Valencia with more importance than Chelsea - Lille. Elite referee in Amsterdam, maybe Category 1 in London, Chelsea expected to win against the fourth-placed team. Who wins between Ajax and Valencia will be surely qualified.
I think committee will be flexible and in case we will see Elite referees maybe appointed for the fourth time. Just to mention a name: after Rosetti's observation, one could guess to see Turpin again, for example in Atalanta's group.
Agreed, Chefren. Good analysis.
DeleteJust a thought:
Bayern - Tottenham as Rocchi's valedictory?
Or would UEFA rather reward him with a 'live' game, say Olympiakós - Crvena zvezda?
Possible that Bayern - Tottenham could be Rocchi last CL game.
DeleteIndeed if we look at other groups, we must exclude the ones with Italian teams and there wouldn't be so many options.
Only thing I'd add is that a lot of the tv pundits are already convinced that Barcelona will put out a reserve team in Milan so that might change how the game is seen.
DeleteI also agree with the analysis. I tried to make some predictions without anyone (except the replacement Rocchi) from MD5. The result would be some interesting challenges, but probably too risky and therefore unrealistic:
DeleteBrugge-Madrid: Ekberg
Paris-Galatasaray: Pawson
Bayern-Tottenham: Kovacs
Olympiakos-Red Star: Siebert
Donetsk-Atalanta: Sidiropoulos
Zagreb-Manchester: Aytekin
Leverkusen-Juventus: Bastien
Atletico-Lokomotiv: Rocchi
Napoli-Genk: Stieler
Salzburg-Liverpool: Makkelie
Dortmund-Slavia: Mateu
Inter-Barcelona: Jovanovic
Benfica-Zenit: Cakir
Lyon-Leipzig: Raczkowski
Ajax-Valencia: Collum
Chelsea-Lille: Guida
Furthermore, there are several direct clashes for the next round in EL, which normally need Elite or top First Group referees.
To add: I also avoided having referees from the same nation for the same team on MD 5 and 6 or in the first and second leg of the same pairing (although this "rule" was already broken last year).
DeleteI expect one ot two referees from MD5, Turpin and Taylor for example.
DeleteAnd I think we could expect Skomina and Kassai maybe. Group C, especially Shakhtar vs. Atalanta deserves top elite ref.
Kassai will never get Ukrainian national team or Ukrainian club after his or his team crucial mistakes!
DeleteSo, it's possible to see him only in Zagreb at this group
24th Arabian Gulf Cup kicked off in Qatar on Tuesday.
ReplyDeleteYou can find full list of officials here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKDP8KPXUAAo-b8?format=jpg&name=small
Below find a short review of the refereeing in the first round of group matches.
Crucial Situations:
=> 5' Penalty (charging)? [QATIRQ Tschudi]
https://youtu.be/WR238-dATxY?t=4325
=> 55' Penalty (tripping)? [KSAKUW Mahamad]
https://streamable.com/z1x27
=> 86' YC given to KUW No.8; SFP? [KSAKUW Mahamad]
https://streamable.com/vuvyb
Bonus:
Potential SFP incidents (no replays :/)
=> 40' [QATIRQ Tschudi]
https://youtu.be/WR238-dATxY?t=6425
=> 79' [OMABAH Boucaut]
https://youtu.be/Q9aJ_wfawOk?t=8671
-> No VAR interventions in the first four matches.
My marks:
QATIRQ Tschudi | 8,3 (Quite Ch.)
UAEYEM Al-Kaf | 8,2 (Easy)
OMABAH Boucaut | 8,4 (Normal)
KSAKUW Mahamad | 7,2 (Normal)
Second round of group matches will be played today and tomorrow (1530, 1800 CET KOs), and will be streamed live on beINSports youtube channel.
www.youtube.com/channel/UCJUCcJUeh0Cz2xyKwkw5Q1w
ENGLAND - PREMIER LEAGUE - MATCHWEEK 14
ReplyDeleteTimes in UTC (GMT); UEFA Categories of FIFA referees in square brackets
SATURDAY 30 NOVEMBER
12:30 | Newcastle United - Manchester City | Ref. - Christopher Kavanagh [2nd] | VAR - Andre Marriner
15:00 | Burnley - Crystal Palace | Ref. - Peter Bankes | VAR - Anthony Taylor [Elite]
15:00 | Chelsea - West Ham United | Ref. - Jonathan Moss | VAR - Andrew Madley
15:00 | Liverpool - Brighton & Hove Albion | Ref. - Martin Atkinson | VAR - Craig Pawson [1st]
15:00 | Tottenham Hotspur - Bournemouth | Ref. - Lee Mason | VAR - Paul Tierney [2nd]
17:30 | Southampton - Watford | Ref. - Michael Oliver [Elite] | VAR - Jarred Gillett
SUNDAY 1 DECEMBER
14:00 | Norwich City - Arsenal | Ref. - Paul Tierney [2nd] | VAR - Michael Oliver [Elite]
14:00 | Wolverhampton - Sheffield United | Ref. - David Coote | VAR - Stuart Attwell [2nd]
16:30 | Leicester City - Everton | Ref. - Graham Scott | VAR - Simon Hooper
16:30 | Manchester United - Aston Villa | Ref. - Craig Pawson [1st] | VAR - Kevin Friend
Source - full appointments: https://www.premierleague.com/news/1504787.
OT
ReplyDeleteENGLAND - PREMIER LEAGUE - MATCHWEEK 15
Times in UTC (GMT); UEFA categories of FIFA referees in square brackets
TUESDAY 3 DECEMBER
19:30 | Crystal Palace - Bournemouth | Ref. - Anthony Taylor [Elte] | VAR - Chris Kavanagh
20:15 | Burnley - Manchester City | Ref. - Jonathan Moss | VAR - Graham Scott
WEDNESDAY 4 DECEMBER
19:30 | Chelsea - Aston Villa | Ref. - Chris Kavanagh | VAR - David Coote
19:30 | Leicester City - Watford | Ref. - Craig Pawson [1st] | VAR - Peter Bankes
19:30 | Manchester United - Tottenham Hotspur | Ref. - Paul Tierney [2nd] | VAR - Michael Oliver [Elite]
19:30 | Southampton - Norwich City | Ref. - Kevin Friend | VAR - Simon Hooper
19:30 | Wolverhampton - West Ham United | Ref. - Andre Marriner | VAR - Andrew Madley
20:15 | Liverpool - Everton | Ref. - Mike Dean | VAR - Martin Atkinson
THURSDAY 5 DECEMBER
19:30 | Sheffield United - Newcastle United | Ref. - Stuart Attwell [2nd] | VAR - Andre Marriner
20:15 | Arsenal - Brighton & Hove Albion | Ref. - Graham Scott | VAR - Jonathan Moss
Source - full appointments: https://www.premierleague.com/news/1504787.
OT
ReplyDeleteMatchweek 13 of the Premier League featured 4 VAR reviews (all of them VAR-only of course; 1 penalty, 2 goals, 1 penalty retake). Go to the following link to watch a full video of every review, get all information about each of them and get statistics about VAR in the league. https://thefref.weebly.com/var-at-premier-league.html
OT
ReplyDeleteBundesliga, Matchday 13 | Schalke - Union Berlin | Ref. - Daniel Schlager | VAR - Deniz Aytekin [Elite]
34'/35' Referee awards penalty, VAR supports. Video: goalstube.online/1161. IMO supportable. Your thoughts?
https://streamja.com/3jnA
DeleteAttacker started falling way before contact came.
IMO not a penalty. YC for attacker for simulation, VAR had to see that and invite the referee to rewatch.
DeleteNever a penalty, really strange that VAR didnt intervene.
ReplyDeleteI am becoming more and more convinced, in fact it is already me, that referees mutually independent of the right decision that should be made and they support each other.
ReplyDeleteProbably next week I will be the referee and you will be VAR
But don't they support the referee more, if they help him correct his mistake.
Delete@Jaak I am totally sure that you're wrong. If a VAR doesn't intervene when needed, of course that's bad for him as he gets lower marks and punishments. Just as referees, VARs don't want to make wrong decisions that may impact their further careers. Also, as Philip S said, it's better for the referee to make the right decision after a VAR review than a wrong decision without review.
DeleteSomething like you described may only happen in very exceptional, strange and unaccceptable cases.
Unbelievable Atkinson. The goalkeeper was at the post to guide the wall and atkinson blew his whistle to kick the foul and scored.
ReplyDeletePenalty for guests or not?
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/ruv21
(Kaljanac ref, Peljto 4th)
Good decision
DeleteIf somebody watch Soto Grado at Val Vill, can anybody tell me in case of good performances, can he be Fifa, or just reliable La Liga referee
ReplyDeleteI watched the performance and he was good in general terms, although he missed some very clear fouls. However, he can't be FIFA: he's already 39 and only has six seasons before retirement.
DeleteBIG MISTAKE in the premier league overnight.
ReplyDeleteHandball in the lead up to Southampton's 1st goal against Watford not given by referee Michael Oliver.
https://streamable.com/oe2gg
Hard for referee to see.
But how has Australian VAR Jarred Gillett missed it??
Let's say it is a very particular case of handball and I must be honest, before the replay with zoom and focus I hadn't notice it.
DeleteI wouldn't excuse VAR of course, because this is exactly his duby, but in case of detection it would have been an excellent work.
The mistake is easy explained, he didn't notice that at all.
Once seen, handball in this case is absolutely clear and punishable.
I agree, also missed cooperation there VAR - Referee, VAR had to ask what referee had seen.
ReplyDeleteTerible game Mr. Bondo Etoile du Sahel vs. Al Ahly SC.
ReplyDeleteRED CARD was OK but no control so many missed cards and fouls. Addedd time bad joke!!! Unacceptable level for me!!!
And assault after red card not single yellow card given for protests. Unacceptable!!!
DeleteInteresting situation in Leicester - Everton (min 90'+4, ref. Graham Scott):
ReplyDeletehttps://streamja.com/dwgy
AR raises his flag for offside, referee does not whistle, Leicester forward continues his run and scores. VAR confirms ON-side position and the goal stands.
Should the ref have whistled immediately as his AR raised his flag? And if for example the Everton players would have stopped after seeing the flag raised, should the goal still have stood?
No, the referee was right to wait until the end of the attack.
DeleteYes, the goal should still have stood, because the players may only stop after a whistle.
PGMOL said the only change regarding offsides in matches with VAR should be the delayed whistle of the referees; ie. ARs should work as they would do in games without VAR.
DeleteIt seems PGMOL's ineptitude has no limits. One could almost believe that they intended to soil the project on purpose, but I wouldn't credit their administration as having the capability to do that (Hanlon's Razor).
I can't understand this AR. So many education, trainings, classes, watched videos and in 94' he is making such a big mistake. Wait, man, wait until the attack is finished! So simple. Fast break, very close offside situation, obvious goal scoring opportunity, and you decide to immediately raise your flag in last seconds of the match. IT IS NEVER LATE TO RAISE FLAG, AND ALSO YOU HAVE VAR IF YOU ARE WRONG. Hopefully, referee was experienced, waited for the action to finish and then whistled. What would happen if he whistled before the goal? It would be total disaster for both of them.
DeleteNole if you read my comment you will understand that this scene was correctly solved by Referee / AR2 in the eyes of (only) PGMOL, with the immediate flag and then delayed whistle by Friend.
DeleteI have a lot of respect for what Riley (EURO 2004, CL) managed in his career but on an ideological level it is hard to see him and team as anything but idiots.
Here is a scene from last weekend's round of matches; only in England is this scene not an absolute scandal (a direct result of PGMOL's inept training)!
https://streamable.com/krkuw
Mateu Lahoz is refereeing Atlético-Barcelona.
ReplyDeleteAlready 3 YC at 25'.
A very classic Mateu Lahoz performance in Atletico v Barcelona.
ReplyDeleteBut lot of problems after 60'. One handling in Barcelona PK area, waved away, then potentially missed second YC for Pique (surely missed YC for Messi, if his pulling was considered as foul), and after that surely missed second YC for very harsh foul on Pique.
DeleteHow is possible not to show (2nd) yellow cards for Pique (foul on Morata) and Vitolo (foul on Pique) ? Both situations were in 2nd half between, between 65th and 78th minutes. I can't accept such a performance from a referee. Imo there were 2 mandatory (2nd) yellow cards, but Mateu Lahoz didn't WANT to show those cards. I repeat, unacceptable, this is another argument for my idea that referees whistled how they want, in their own interest (to avoid big decisions which can cause potential scandals after the game)
DeleteI have to agree with you guys. I can live with no 2nd YC for Pique as there was no contact (of course 2nd YC would have been supportable) but Vitolo had to see a 2nd YC. And if we consider how Lahoz issued YCs in the first half for pretty much every foul, the only explanation for these situations is that he didn't want to show these cards as petschovschi said... And that is unacceptable.
DeleteOT:
ReplyDeleteWhat do you guys think?
https://youtu.be/tllAWDYuA6A (incident at 8 minutes and 20 seconds)
Referee’s decision was play on. VAR didn’t intervene.
Play on, if that´s a penalty, then you would have 5 pen´s each game.
DeleteIn the biggest Bosnian Derby (Sarajevo-Zeljeznicar), Haris Kaljanac showed 18 YC and 2 RC (players+coaches+bench players).
ReplyDeleteWow - what a game for Haris Kaljanac!
DeleteI remember similarly crazy game for Irfan Peljto in that game last year (streamable.com/oloac) which introduced me to his huge talent. If I may ask two questions re. this year's match:
How old is Kaljanac - future FIFA?
Do you know where I could get a full match record of the game?
He is 35.
DeleteThere is full match highlights
https://youtu.be/XUUGI_j4IZk
Eredivisie: FC Emmen - PSV
ReplyDeleteRefererr: Dennis Higler / VAR: Danny Makkelie
1. Goal or clear foul?
https://youtu.be/6X1cPpaOOPQ?t=182
2. Clear RC?
https://youtu.be/6X1cPpaOOPQ?t=503
Higler say:
(1) I could n’t see it in the field, but Emmen's player pull twice opponent shirt, thus clear foul.
(2) stiff tackle but not "give a kick after", thuis YC.
1) IMO, a clear foul, which starts directly in the APP. VAR was correct to intervene here, goal was rightly disallowed.
Delete2) I would say, wrong intervention by VAR: I would have said that it was nothing more than SPA or reckless challenge. I would not consider this as violent conduct and Higler was right here not to overturn his initial decision.
thanks Stake. for (1) totaal agree.
Deletefor (2) in Netherland "nartrappen" ("give a kick after") is recognized as a RC. If this action is not "give a kick after", i think so many Dutch fans will need to change their recognition.
IMO, red card.
DeleteDutch referee committee says this is violent conduct and clear red card. There will be consequences for Higler because even after watching on the tv he gave a yellow only?!
DeleteIf you ask me all kicks such as the one in 69' should be punished with a Red Card - excellent that KNVB dictates that absolutely IMO.
DeleteI assume "nartraapen" is the German "Nachtreten", which dict.cc translates with "retaliation". Also in Germany, it is considered as a kind of Violent Conduct and typically observed, when two players are lying on the ground after a tackling and the ball is already gone.
DeleteThe question is, whether this is also applicable, when the players are more or less still fighting for the ball.
Or do we rather have to argue with SFP arguments in such cases?
About (2) itself, I agree, that it "feels" like it should be a RC. On the other hand, I think, it often is only punished with YC, therefore I would not call it a clear RC.
Reminds me of this red from last season in the Premier League, given by Mike Dean after being tipped up by his assistant Darren Cann.
Deletehttps://streamable.com/sx45o
Sanchez Martinez with a below par performance on the Greek SL derby Olympiakos - PAOK.
ReplyDeleteNo consistency on foul detection, he tried to manage the match with verbal warnings (mostly) but it wasn't enough. At least 3-4 missed cautions (one of them to PAOK N21 would have been a 2nd YC). He correctly awarded the penalty to Olympiakos but he should have awarded another one at 49' (again to Olympiakos). Plus he played on 4' of additional time on the second half but 5' would have been the minimum time lost.
As I said on the day the appointment was revealed, this match needed an Elite Referee.
Friday 12 June
ReplyDeleteGroup A: Turkey v Italy (21:00, Rome)
Saturday 13 June
Group A: Wales v Switzerland (15:00, Baku)
Group B: Denmark v Finland (18:00, Copenhagen)
Group B: Belgium v Russia (21:00, St Petersburg)
Sunday 14 June
Group D: England v Croatia (15:00, Wembley)
Group C: Austria v Play-off winner D or A (18:00, Bucharest)
Group C: Netherlands v Ukraine (21:00, Amsterdam)
Monday 15 June
Group D: Play-off winner C v Czech Republic (15:00, Glasgow)
Group E: Poland v Play-off winner B (18:00, Dublin)
Group E: Spain v Sweden (21:00, Bilbao)
Tuesday 16 June
Group F: Play-off winner A or D v Portugal (18:00, Budapest)
Group F: France v Germany (21:00, Munich)
Wednesday 17 June
Group B: Finland v Russia (15:00, St Petersburg)
Group A: Turkey v Wales (18:00, Baku)
Group A: Italy v Switzerland (21:00, Rome)
Thursday 18 June
Group C: Ukraine v Play-off winner D or A (15:00, Bucharest)
Group B: Denmark v Belgium (18:00, Copenhagen)
Group C: Netherlands v Austria (21:00, Amsterdam)
Friday 19 June
Group E: Sweden v Play-off winner B (15:00, Dublin)
Group D: Croatia v Czech Republic (18:00, Glasgow)
Group D: England v Play-off winner C (21:00, London)
Saturday 20 June
Group F: Play-off winner A or D v France (15:00, Budapest)
Group F: Portugal v Germany (18:00, Munich)
Group E: Spain v Poland (21:00, Bilbao)
Sunday 21 June
Group A: Italy v Wales (18:00, Rome)
Group A: Switzerland v Turkey (18:00, Baku)
Monday 22 June
Group C: Play-off winner D or A v Netherlands (18:00, Amsterdam)
Group C: Ukraine v Austria (18:00, Bucharest)
Group B: Russia v Denmark (21:00, Copenhagen)
Group B: Finland v Belgium (21:00, St Petersburg)
Tuesday 23 June
Group D: Czech Republic v England (21:00, London)
Group D: Croatia v Play-off winner C (21:00, Glasgow)
Wednesday 24 June
Group E: Play-off winner B v Spain (18:00, Bilbao)
Group E: Sweden v Poland (18:00, Dublin)
Group F: Germany v Play-off winner A or D (21:00, Munich)
Group F: Portugal v France (21:00, Budapest)
UEFA EURO 2020 SCHEDULE
DeleteThe referee of opener TUR - ITA will be Makkelie
DeleteI wonder, whether this will be considered for the play-off appointments. E.g., no Spanish or Polish referees in the B play-off.
Delete“No ,Makkelie can’t be..He works for Turkish referees about VAR instructor.Turkish Football Federation pay money for him.He can not do any game for Turkey or any game in the same group
DeleteI didn't know that. How much busy is Makkelie!
DeletePhilipp, I'm sure that it will be considered. It will be a little restricting for some referees (Makkelie, Brych, Turpin, ...) because they will be probably out for both A and D play-off matches. Good luck for predictions! :)
DeleteVery early predictions (considering those restrictions)
DeleteISL-ROU: Mateu
BUL-HUN: del Cerro Grande
A final: Cakir
BIH-NIR: Brych
SVK-IRL: Orsato
B final: Makkelie
SCO-ISR: Skomina
NOR-SRB: Kuipers
C final: Turpin
GEO-BLR: Marciniak
MKD-KOS: Taylor
D final: Hategan
If I didn't miss anything, this also avoids any referee to have a team from the group stage again.
ISL-ROU: Bankes
DeleteBUL-HUN: Shuetengrubber
A final: Sidiropulos
BIH-NIR: Dankert
SVK-IRL: Maae
B final: Lechner
SCO-ISR: Bognar
NOR-SRB: Jug
C final: Kruzlak
GEO-BLR: Kristoferson
MKD-KOS: KAVANAH
D final: Boiko
@Anonymous (10:40) I have no words... xD
DeleteKAVANAH! The best
DeleteWho is Bankes ?
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bankes
DeleteBy the way, Kuipers is 46 years. How he could be next year at Euro 2020, if he will retire at the end of the year?
DeleteHi guys... I haven't written very often but I'm always reading with great interest the comments here in the blog. I want to express my honest appreciation to all of you and especially to the admins who sacrifice their spare time to write comments and discuss football situations. It speaks volumes about your love and dedication to refereeing. Immediately I must say that I am not a professional referee myself but I am an ex football player and I have very deep interest and theorethical knowledge in refereeing because it is connected with my current job.
ReplyDeleteI would like to share my real worries about the current state of refereeing around the world. With all the new technologies and changes the focus is more and more on the man in the middle. And sadly I have the feeling that the level of football officiating is far lower than the level of football itself. We have witnessed far too many basical errors, inconsistencies and truly wrong decisions which do not correspond to the scientific nature of football nowadays. According to me there are some major issues that need to be reviewed as soon as possible:
- first of all we have the so called generational gap. What I mean: in the last few years there are a lot of changes in the rules and implementation of new technologies and naturally the older referees have problems in keeping in track with them - a good example is the Premier League where it is a public secret that half of the referees have problems in using the computer technologies. Also some of them still follow the mantra that if you have shown less cards you have done well with the game. A BIG NO here from me personally - if you have not show cards where they are due to, it is calling NOT DOING YOYR JOB. Because the primary duties of the referee is to keep the safety of the players and to follow the rules of the game - for example when there is a time wasting you must show a card and not to show your watch. Very often we see descriptions like lazy style of refereeing - this can not be far from the truth. It is called again NOT DOING YOUR JOB;
- another big problem according to me is the background of the referee. I think that it is very important that a referee has done any kind of sports - preferably football - before starting a career. Because it is much easier to understand what is a natural position of the hand or when there is a contact between players and when it is a simulation;
- the final point that I would like to share is the problem with the consistency. Here we have a lot of guilty parties according to me. First it is IFAB who are introducing too many changes without explaining them clearly - recently there was a request from DFB about the play with hand in the attacking fase and it turns out that since the beginning if the season it was implementing wrongly. Second it is the different demands by FIFA and the continental confederations. And third it is the referees themselves: I understand that all the referees have different perception about the seriousness of the foul or the 'promise' in SPA but at the end time wasting is a time wasting, dissent is a dissent and i have problems with understanding why some of them are not sanctioning these issues and thus they create inconsistency which is a real problem.
I am sorry that the post turn out a little longer than I expected. I would really like to hear your opinions on the topic. Best wishes to everybody.
OT: LIGUE 1 - MATCHDAY 17 (06.12-08.12)
ReplyDeleteFriday (06.12)
Lille - Brest, 19:00 CET, referee: Eric Wattellier (VAR: Jérôme Brisard)
Nîmes - Lyon, 20:45 CET, referee: Olivier Thual (VAR: Clément Turpin)
Saturday (07.12)
Montpellier - PSG, 17:30 CET, referee: Antony Gautier (VAR: Frank Schneider)
Rennes - Angers, 20:00 CET, referee: Amaury Delerue (VAR: Thomas Leonard)
Monaco - Amiens, 20:00 CET, referee: Jérémie Stinat (VAR: François Letexier)
Nice - Metz, 20:00 CET, referee: Jérémie Pignard (VAR: Clément Turpin)
Strasbourg - Toulouse, 20:00 CET, referee: Johan Hamel (VAR: Jérôme Brisard)
Sunday (08.12)
Reims - Saint-Etienne, 15:00 CET, referee: Stéphanie Frappart (VAR: Frank Schneider)
Nantes - Dijon, 17:00 CET, referee: Hakim Ben El Hadj (VAR: Thomas Leonard)
Marseille - Bordeaux, 21:00 CET, referee: Mikael Lesage (VAR: François Letexier)
Arabian Gulf Cup - R2
ReplyDeleteUNITED ARAB EMIRATES - QATAR, Alexandre Boucaut (Quite Ch.)
=> 80' Penalty awarded to Iraq (tripping) after an On-Field Review
https://streamable.com/49qqt
Mark: 7,8(2)
YEMEN - QATAR, Ali Mahmoud Hassan Shaban (Normal)
=> 6' Penalty (charging)? VAR supported play on
https://streamable.com/3urnh
=> 69' Penalty (handling) - VAR supported penalty
https://streamable.com/gjd7h
=> 91' No Penalty (tripping) after On-Field Review
https://streamable.com/2uq3q
Mark: 7,0
KUWAIT - OMAN, Khamis Muhammad Al-Marri (Very / Quite Ch.)
=> 12' Penalty (tripping) given to Oman after On-Field Review
https://streamable.com/ujefs
=> 31' Penalty (charging) given to Oman
https://streamable.com/xswaf
=> 39' Penalty (tripping) appeal, Kuwait
https://streamable.com/wr1s4
=> 86' Penalty (charging) appeal, Oman
https://streamable.com/cqh0d
Mark: 7,4
BAHRAIN - SAUDI ARABIA, Lionel Tschudi (Normal)
=> 90' YC given for reckless tackle; SFP?
https://youtu.be/Bn-uoJChkYs?t=6172
Mark: 8,4
Longer Reports:
https://mikaelreferee.blogspot.com/2019/11/arabian-gulf-cup-md2.html
Thank you Mikael. The most interesting situation IMO is Kuwait - Oman at 31' (I have arguments in favour of both play on and penalty), the most blatant mistake Yemen - Qatar 90+1'.
DeleteFor me this is a mistake of the VAR, Makkelie, can you imagine that he is happy when his VAR call him for this in CL??
ReplyDeleteDear friends what is your opinion about this? For me this is clear red card. The VAR is again Makkelie. For the ref it is difficult to see. But VAR Makkelie say yellow. I think wrong.
ReplyDeletehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rtjIDabtRTw
43:20 min
And please see this video from Germany. Very nice to see.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UlT1UTOTztk
Clear red card IMO as well
DeleteThanks for the video, I recommend it especially around 10:30, cross air technology is shown
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ReplyDeleteENGLAND - PREMIER LEAGUE - MATCHWEEK 16
Times in UTC (GMT); UEFA categories of FIFA referees in square brackets
SATURDAY 7 DECEMBER
12:30 | Everton - Chelsea | Ref. - Craig Pawson [1st] | VAR - Stuart Attwell [2nd]
15:00 | Bournemouth - Liverpool | Ref. - Chris Kavanagh [2nd] | VAR - Jonathan Moss
15:00 | Tottenham Hotspur - Burnley | Ref. - Kevin Friend | VAR - Lee Mason
15:00 | Watford - Crystal Palace | Ref. - Martin Atkinson | VAR - Andre Marriner
17:30 | Manchester City - Manchester United | Ref. - Anthony Taylor [Elite] | VAR - Michael Oliver [Elite]
SUNDAY 8 DECEMBER
14:00 | Aston Villa - Leicester City | Ref. - Michael Oliver [Elite] | VAR - Chris Kavanagh [2nd]
14:00 | Newcastle United - Southampton | Ref. - David Coote | VAR - Martin Atkinson
14:00 | Norwich City - Sheffield United | Ref. - Simon Hooper | VAR - Peter Bankes
16:30 | Brighton & Hove Albion - Wolverhampton | Ref. - Jonathan Moss | VAR - Graham Scott
MONDAY 9 DECEMBER
20:00 | West Ham United - Arsenal | Ref. - Mike Dean | VAR - Kevin Friend
Source - full appointments: https://www.premierleague.com/news/1512840.
What about midweek matches?
DeleteHigher in the comments section of this post (http://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2019/11/europa-league-201920-referee_25.html?showComment=1575037534376&m=1#c4444924809317374747).
DeleteIn Norway they have appointed a referee who has retired after poor performances for several years (Trygve Kjensli) for the decisive promotion/relegation play off this weekend. The reason is that all other referees are "unavailable" due to the end of season party! Unacceptable!
ReplyDeleteIt is true that Kjensli is the only one of the five referees of the playoff matches that is not on the FIFA list.
DeleteI find another hypothesis more plausible than the Christmas Party - that NFF wanted to reward Kjensli for a long career with the 1L of the promotion-relegation playoff as a valedictory.
At least from what I heard, that party would be a pretty 'frosty' affair too...
Thank you for your nuanced point of view Mikael, with the opening post here at best trying to be sensational. Most likely, this appointment is set as a farewell game for Kjensli, as a reward for long service in Norwegian elite football.
DeleteSpeaking about FIFA referees in the other playoff matches, I recommend you to take a look at Rohit Saggi's game between Start and KFUM, a quite intense game with a number of crucial situations. Saggi is more or less continously praised as a huge refereeing talent by the Norwegian football community, and after this game was no exception. Should be interesting to see how far he can go internationally, already with the final in this summers Universiade in his belt, and now recently being observed by Hugh Dallas in UYL.
Do you have a full match record of that game?
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ReplyDeleteAUSTRIAN TIPICO BUNDESLIGA Round 17
Top clash will be prestigous "Wiener-Derby" between RAPID and AUSTRIA on Sunday, handled by Robert Schörgenhofer. Will be an interesting game, with lot of pressure on Austria. 6 Rounds until the league will be separated. Austria is 5 points below the invisible line at the moment.
Saturday, 07 December
17:00 WAC Wolfsberg - LASK LINZ
Lechner, Heidenreich, Kolbitsch, Gnam; Meßner
17:00 TSV Hartberg - SKN St. Pölten
Ebner, Brandner, Waldl, Untergasser; Heugenhauser
17:00 RED BULL Salzburg - WSG Tirol
Kijas, Obritzberger, Weiß, Gmeiner; Einwaller
Sunday, 08 December
14:30 STURM Graz- SCR Altach
Drachta, Rothmann, Bachmyer-Zangerle, Fröhlacher; Sedlacek
14:30 SV Mattersburg - ADMIRA Mödling
Weinberger, Gruber, Hartl, Sadikovsi; Steiner
17:00 RAPID Wien - AUSTRIA Wien
Schörgenhofer, Gutschi, Beganovic, Ouschan; Plautz
Will Schörgenhofer continue his (international) career next year? After his demotion to category 2 last summer he won't get any UEL matches and could consider to resign, if you ask me.
DeleteMatchweek 14 of the Premier League featured 4 VAR reviews (all of them VAR-only, of course). Click on the following link to watch a full video of every review, get all information about each of them and get statistics about VAR in the league. https://thefref.weebly.com/var-at-premier-league.html
ReplyDeleteRed card by Taylor for SFP. 100% correct decision. 19th minute in case somebody would look for a video.
ReplyDeleteI must say Taylor became really a top referee in the recent years. That's just a spot on decision again.
He's being rewarded for his form. He has the Manchester derby on the weekend for the second season in a row.
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