Wednesday 24 October 2018

Champions League 2018/19 - Referee Appointments - Matchday 3 (II)

The following officials will be in charge of Wednesday's Champions League MD3 games. CL debuts for Siebert (GER) and Madden (SCO). Thanks to H_demboveac on twitter for the appointments. 

Group A
24 October 2018, 18:55 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - AS Monaco FC (FRA)
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Lee Betts (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Paul Tierney (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Andre Marriner (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Eugen Strigel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Martin Sturkenboom (NED)

Group B
24 October 2018, 18:55 CET - Eindhoven (Philips Stadion)
PSV Eindhoven (NED) - Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
Referee: Slavko Vinčič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Matej Žunič (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Ponis (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Irakli Nakaidze (GEO)

Group A
24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Dortmund (Signal Iduna Park)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Stephen Child (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Martin Atkinson (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Rune Pedersen (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Campbell Ogilvie (SCO)

Group B
24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
FC Barcelona (ESP) - FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Eugen Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Adrian Ștefan Ghinguleac (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Radu Marian Petrescu (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Constantin Colțescu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)

Group C
24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Eduard Beitinger (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: László Vágner (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)

Group C
24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool FC (ENG) - FK Crvena zvezda (SRB)
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tobias Welz (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Patrick Ittrich (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jaap Uilenberg (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Michal Mertinyák (SVK)

Group D
24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Moscow (RZhD Arena)
FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) - FC Porto (POR)
Referee: Robert Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Francis Connor (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Alan Mulvanny (SCO)
Fourth Official: Douglas Potter (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: John Beaton (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Alan Muir (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bo Karlsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Jean-Paul Mievis (BEL)

Group D
24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Istanbul (Ali Sami Yen Spor Kompleksi Türk Telekom Stadyumu)
Galatasaray (TUR) - FC Schalke 04 (GER)
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Haquette (FRA)
Fourth Official: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Benoît Millot (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Jérôme Miguelgorry (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Þór Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Graham Hover (ENG)
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114 comments:

  1. Referee 1222 October 2018 at 10:20

    Well, I did not expect Siebert. Madden finally got his CL match, I think deserved.

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  2. Chefren22 October 2018 at 10:27

    Absolutely unexpected debut for Siebert.
    I think it was not needed at moment, Germany has already 4 referees in Champions League. (Brych, Aytekin, Zwayer, Stieler). I would have found more logical to see Stieler in a game. However, it is a big revolution there with Rosetti.
    We can expect all the referees promoted to Category 1 on last update, to be appointed in CL this group stage (indeed Siebert is one of them): Aghayev, Kabakov, Massa, Jovanović, Pawson.

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    1. Chefren22 October 2018 at 10:28

      And of course Ekberg who was promoted before these mentioned names.

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    2. Referee 1222 October 2018 at 10:32

      WoW: Skomina, Brych, Kralovec and Gil Manzano in Europa League. Very interesting,....

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    3. "Dynamic Personality"???22 October 2018 at 23:23

      Out with the old, in with the new. No need for unmotivated referee's who take their assignments for granted. It's time for the young motivated and hungry generation.

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  3. Timbo22 October 2018 at 12:06

    Another big appointment for Zwayer after Tottenham - Barcelona on MD2.
    Did anyone expect Taylor in Dortmund?

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    1. Philipp S22 October 2018 at 12:11

      No, quite good appointment for Taylor. Same for Bastien in a very important match in that group.
      But when you send Brych and Skomina to EL, you have to fill up the big matches with other referees...

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  4. Blra22 October 2018 at 12:53

    It gets more obvious that the commitee wants to find the referees for the next generation and finally takes some serious steps. Skomina, Brych und Co. are not needed in the CL for every match. Especially after not so good matches. Good to see Bastien, Hategan and Taylor in such matches on group stage level.

    From a German perspective, it is a good sign to see Siebert already this season in the CL. His national performances are constanly on a very good level on par with Aytekin and Brych. This is good to open up the fight for the German No.1 when Brych retires as the best referee on national level, Aytekin is possible too old then (and has not the standing on UEFA level). Zwayer has his problematic history and some questionable performances thorughout the last year (Cup final or cup match between Leipzig-Bayern among others). Stieler is kind of a mixed bag at the moment (he is probably regarded in the German public as one of the worst referees after many blunders last season). So, a really good thing to see Siebert that early.

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  5. Osborne22 October 2018 at 15:50

    Very good chance for Haţegan to recover after his progression slowed down with the WC qualifier. Barcelona-Inter was a very heated semifinal in 2010, I expect the Spanish team to seek revenge, as I believe it's the first time they meet again since that game

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  6. Ichigo23 October 2018 at 19:10

    by the way. why Istvan Kovacs could`nt have a champions league game in this season? he has two years in first category. i think maybe he will get a easy game when all is set up in the group stages or maybe he will get a battle for the third place. and it-s strange to see Siebert a rookie in first category to referee in Champions League. is not fair for others referee from the same group.

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  7. Gylfi4624 October 2018 at 12:27

    OT:

    https://streamable.com/q2vee

    We’ll all agree on it being an indirect free kick, but should the goalkeeper be cautioned (yellow card) or no card?

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    1. Philipp S24 October 2018 at 12:44

      Why yellow card? Strictly by the LotG it would be a RC for DOGSO. But as far as I know, DOGSO should not be applied for technical offences.
      And for the YC, I don't see any reason.

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    2. Gylfi4624 October 2018 at 13:43

      It is definitely not a red card.

      My opinion is no card. However, some of the referees that I know say that the goalkeeper should get a yellow card for 'deliberately stopping a promising attack'! I'm confused.

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    3. Chefren24 October 2018 at 14:16

      Indirect free kick without any disciplinary measure.
      It is a deliberate backpass saved by hand. Nothing more.

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    4. AHMED ADERDOUR24 October 2018 at 20:05

      In this clip the goalkeeper handle the ball after deliberately kicked to him by his team-mate. According to law 12 the referee needs to award indirect free kick, the question do need to caution the goalkeeper for stopping promising attack or maybe send him off for denying an obvious goal score opportunity? First the goalkeeper can’t be guilty of DOGSO by handling the ball inside his penalty area (Law 12 – Sending off offences). The goalkeeper can’t be penalize for handles the ball to interfere with or stopping a promising attack as he can’t be guilty of handball offences inside his penalty area (Law 12 – handling the ball).
      Decision: Indirect free kick.

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  8. Philipp S24 October 2018 at 17:44

    @Chefren/Vlad: The PDFs with the referee categories in the respective post are gone. Would it be possible to re-upload them?

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    1. Chefren24 October 2018 at 18:27

      Thanks, I will update the page.
      Here the files:
      FUTSAL https://docdro.id/bICX0ml
      MEN https://docdro.id/dJWMU86
      WOMEN https://docdro.id/8S2N9bF

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    2. Euro Soccer Ref24 October 2018 at 18:31

      Sorry, my fault. I was clearing space on my Google Drive and must have deleted it by accident.

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  9. Chefren24 October 2018 at 19:10

    Not sure about offside call by AR1 in Brugge - Monaco, disallowing a goal. It looked ONSIDE... but it must be rewatched (minute 13' or 14').

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  10. Eric24 October 2018 at 19:32

    Does anyone know why the first Tottenham goal was disallowed??

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    1. Bgymn24 October 2018 at 19:35

      Offside by Kane. He was certainly offside but was he interfering with play is the real question. I don't think that was offside personally.

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    2. DutchRef24 October 2018 at 19:39

      The goal was disallowed for Kane being in an offside position, but there was no interfering with play or players at all. Unfortunately an important incorrect decision by both ASR1 and Vincic.

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    3. DutchRef24 October 2018 at 19:43

      The video of Tottenham’s disallowed goal:

      https://streamable.com/8uz7f

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    4. Eric24 October 2018 at 19:44

      I knew he was offside but like you both, I didn’t think he was interfering with the play. That’s why I posted just in case there was something I missed

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    5. VG24 October 2018 at 21:50

      100% weong offside. No impact at all on play or any opponent. Very big mistake.

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  11. petschovschi24 October 2018 at 19:35

    How is possible to disallow a goal like this for offside ? In recent years, I never saw something like this. Kane didn't influence that action.

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    1. petschovschi24 October 2018 at 19:37

      We have 3 referees who can evaluate the position of Kane. I can't accept the fact they were not able to make a proper evaluation of the Kane's position...

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    2. VG24 October 2018 at 21:56

      It’s one of the biggest mistakes in the history of CL.

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  12. anty7524 October 2018 at 19:36

    It was a big mistake. Kane while in offside position wasn't intefering with play

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  13. Filip V24 October 2018 at 19:44

    Really bad Vincic inn first half. YC for Dembele should have been YC for Lozano for simulation, then crucial mistake with disallowed goal. In the end missed more then clear corner for PSV

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  14. Euro Soccer Ref24 October 2018 at 19:55

    I heard that after last matchday UEFA stated that 'when a player in offside position is standing in the goal area, close to the goalkeeper, he must be deemed as interfering with an opponent (the goalkeeper)'. This should be the reason behind the call...

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  15. Chefren24 October 2018 at 19:58

    The presence of Kane makes impossible for the defender close to post to intervene trying to save the ball, this is the only explanation for the call, but one must also add that the defender doesn't make any clear action to show that he is interested in saving the ball.
    In my opinion wrong offside call.

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    1. Bgymn24 October 2018 at 20:30

      Also, even if the defender did try to make it across the goal to make a play, no way he gets there in time to block the shot on the line. He is a non factor in that play.

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    2. petschovschi24 October 2018 at 20:36

      @Chefren

      The goal has 7,32 m. Between that defender and the trajectory of the ball there are (at least) 5 metres. Impossible to intervene (in fact, that defender has no reaction, I was clear also for the defender himself that he doesn't have any chance to save that shot).

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  16. Chefren24 October 2018 at 20:08

    56' penalty appeal in Oliver's game, I think you can whistle it. Maybe more penalty than PLAY ON.

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  17. Hans24 October 2018 at 20:36

    Correct red card for Lloris by Vincic

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  18. david0224 October 2018 at 20:36

    RC for GK of Tottenham. Correct decision IMO. I think Vincic issued it for SFP and not for DOGSO.

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    1. DrMr24 October 2018 at 20:41

      Absolutely not for SFP, IMO

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    2. "Dynamic Personality"???24 October 2018 at 20:46

      I agree with DrMr. Never ever SFP, imo

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    3. petschovschi24 October 2018 at 21:19

      There is no DOGSO there

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    4. VG24 October 2018 at 22:09

      It should have been a yellow. Reckless tackle.

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    5. DrMr25 October 2018 at 00:26

      IMO it's DOGSO, the goal is undefended. Plus common sense

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    6. VG25 October 2018 at 16:38

      Dogso how? He kicks the ball too far away to get fouled. The two defenders would have easily challenged the ball if he didn’t get fouled.

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    7. "Dynamic Personality"???26 October 2018 at 08:08

      I'm with Victor. The distance to ball is quite much and the defenders would have definitely gotten to that ball before the attacker. Yellow would have sufficed. It's unfortunate that this referee over punished and a referee like Zwayer twice under punished on brutal tackles.

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  19. Hans24 October 2018 at 20:44

    Total wrong yc for Dumfries by Vincic. Tackle 100% on the ball

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  20. "Dynamic Personality"???24 October 2018 at 20:45

    90+1, absolutely picture perfect and clean tackle by PSV Dumfries from the side. Vincic whistles fouls and compounds mistake by cautioning the PSV player. Geez!

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  21. RikB24 October 2018 at 20:46

    Wrong YC to Dumfries from PSV. Perfect tackel on the ball.
    Correct RC to Lloris

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  22. DrMr24 October 2018 at 20:49

    Generaly, I'm impressed with Slavko Vinčić!
    I have watched him for the first time carefully. Really like him as a referee

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    1. Stake24 October 2018 at 20:53

      Overall with a good performance in Eindhoven, if there wasn’t this wrong offside flag...

      I feel that he’s a very active referee, there was a lot of prevention and he’s not as passive on the pitch as his compatriot Skomina tends to be. Apart from a possible 2nd YC to Dembele (reckless use of arms, 69’), his cards were good.

      I hope he can make the jump to Elite in December/January.

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    2. Filip V25 October 2018 at 01:33

      Camon this was far from good, Besides clear mistake with offside, he gave 2 ycs for fouls that eve didnt happen

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  23. DutchRef24 October 2018 at 20:52

    Some of the key match incidents:

    20’ YC Dembélé
    https://streamable.com/

    69’ Possible 2nd YC Dembélé
    https://streamable.com/qjpl1

    79’ RC Lloriz
    https://streamable.com/m09wj

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    1. Chefren24 October 2018 at 20:54

      The first link is incomplete!

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    2. Chefren24 October 2018 at 20:58

      69': I think it was YC for reckless use of arms. Can we assess this as crucial mistake?
      79': Can we be sure it was DOGSO? Attacker kicks the ball before the foul and then another defender would be ready to intervene. I think we can exclude SFP, I think at most reckless tackle there.

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    3. DutchRef24 October 2018 at 20:59

      Another try :)

      https://streamable.com/q7vdz

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    4. Philipp S24 October 2018 at 21:05

      I agree with Chefren in both situations. 69' is a standard YC for arm against head. And in 79' at the moment of the foul the attacker had already given away ball possession to the defender. At least less DOGSO than the Handanovic incident.
      20' is quite clearly no foul.

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    5. Chefren24 October 2018 at 21:08

      20': not a foul in my opinion, a mistake by referee in issuing this YC.

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    6. Alex F24 October 2018 at 21:23

      For the Lloris situation, I think that the game expects the RC here, every day of the week.

      In a video test environment, I think that this is a YC -- not SFP (look at how/where the contact is made) and as noted by Philipp, the defender is taking control of that ball before the offence occurs, so no DOGSO.

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    7. usaref24 October 2018 at 21:41

      Exactly. What does "football expect?" A red card is the expected sanction.

      Technically it's not DOGSO because possession has been surrendered and the defender is most likely to get possession of the ball.

      And SFP is harsh because the studs do not make contact. However, SFP is defensible. There is a great amount of force in this tackle and I can argue very confidently that this tackle endangered the opponent's safety. Given the universal expectations here, a red card for SFP is the right option.

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    8. MelroseRef25 October 2018 at 00:54

      Some great points raised here.

      20' - not a foul for me either, I would be disappointed to have this as my first YC in a game (ideally first YC should be an almost mandatory YC)
      69' - this is a clear YC for me and not a situation that is manageable
      79' - I agree with Alex Fletcher about 'what football expects' in determining this being a RC. I would expect to find this clip on UEFA RAP 2018-2 as a YC - SaPA/reckless tackle. SFP not fulfilled for me and neither is DOGSO (technically) due to Alderweireld covering and the player not being in possession of the ball

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  24. RefSoccer341224 October 2018 at 21:05

    Wrong offside by AR2 in Dortmund

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  25. Chefren24 October 2018 at 21:06

    5': correct YC by Zwayer.

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    1. Chefren24 October 2018 at 21:09

      9' another YC by Zwayer. Both compulsory decisions, if you ask me. Very good start by the German.

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    2. Howard Maxi24 October 2018 at 21:10

      It's good to see these attacks don't go unpunished.

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    3. DutchRef24 October 2018 at 21:16

      The YC in 5’ is reaaally close to a SFP if you ask me...

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    4. Ref24 October 2018 at 21:57

      Agree with DutchRef, RC would’ve been at least supportable IMO

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    5. VG25 October 2018 at 00:01

      5' is a clear red card but I don't think anybody would go red there because it's the CL and 5th minute.

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    6. Jackson25 October 2018 at 01:14

      I also think that should have been a red card in the 5th minute.

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  26. Lenny24 October 2018 at 21:15

    No penalty for Schalke is a wrong decision by Bastien

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    1. Raymus24 October 2018 at 21:18

      Yes. Clear penalty. At least AAR had to see it.

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    2. Michael24 October 2018 at 21:20

      Indeed. No one else apart from the goalkeeper could get away with that type of challenge!

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    3. Ref_170724 October 2018 at 21:20

      This is a huge mistake. The contact was blatant and obvious. At least AAR2 had to be aware of that. One could even think about a RC for DOGSO.

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    4. Lenny24 October 2018 at 21:25

      In my opinion, no RC for DOGSO, because the Galatasaray defender could clear the ball. So, clear PK and YC for me

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    5. Raymus24 October 2018 at 21:37

      Possible DOGSO by turkish player in 35'?

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    6. Lenny24 October 2018 at 22:04

      It would be a very, very soft call. So, it's OK to play on

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    7. Lenny24 October 2018 at 22:09

      49': Next possible PK for Schalke, it's OK to play on again, but Bastien gives YC for diving. Next mistake, because Muslera hits Embolo clear

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    8. Raymus24 October 2018 at 22:20

      Now strange offside. Call was correct, but the flag signal came very late. Correct result, but decision making didn't look very sovereign.

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    9. Lenny24 October 2018 at 22:30

      A bit like VAR in Germany. You score a goal, everyone is happy and one minute later it's offside. Right decision, but strange how they decided that

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    10. lucac221825 October 2018 at 11:11

      DOGSO in 35', clear pushing foul. Clearly makes an attacker who would otherwise face only the goalkeeper lose balance.

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  27. Raymus24 October 2018 at 21:23

    Missed YC by Siebert in 22'

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  28. Chefren24 October 2018 at 21:30

    Any info from Moscow? Madden already with two penalties.

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    1. Ref_170724 October 2018 at 21:32

      First one was correct, second one was rather soft, however, it seemed like a supportable call (embracing/pulling).

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  29. Chefren24 October 2018 at 21:32

    It is very interesting to observe Zwayer: he is making backwards movements in order to keep always an eye on the ball or on potentially important situations. For example now with the ball out he checked the player who was lying down but at the same time he continued to look to other players. That's very good.

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    1. estkane24 October 2018 at 23:07

      Well noticed! Really interesting stuff! :)

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  30. Euro Soccer Ref24 October 2018 at 22:08

    What about Lemar's yellow card in Dortmund? Serious foul play for my taste.

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  31. Quilava24 October 2018 at 22:15

    Correct PK + YC for Liverpool whistled by Siebert after AAR advice.

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    1. DrMr24 October 2018 at 22:38

      Are you serious?
      Tell me please that second PK is correct decision?

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    2. Quilava24 October 2018 at 22:42

      No, because it's a rebound from its owm head. I meant the 1st one.

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    3. Bgymn25 October 2018 at 01:03

      I think both decisions are incorrect imo.

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  32. Chefren24 October 2018 at 22:16

    56': correct decision to play on by Zwayer, following a penalty appeal by Neymar...

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    1. Chefren24 October 2018 at 22:18

      Two minutes later a penalty appeal by Cavani, this time must be rewatched but very likely it is at least supportable to play on.
      Game for Zwayer can become very challenging now.

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  33. Marco Neri24 October 2018 at 22:26

    Strange situation in Istanbul. Bastien disallowed Schalke goal after about 30 seconds from the scoring for a correct offside. It looks like AR1 was not sure of who had kicked the ball. Correct decision, but still weird situation

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  34. Quilava24 October 2018 at 22:41

    Correct RC for DOGSO for Lokomotiv.

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  35. DrMr24 October 2018 at 22:41

    Wrong second PK awarded for Liverpool.
    Never unnatural postition...

    Referee is really lost tonight, his general self presentation is meticulous, uncofident and stiff..

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  36. Chefren24 October 2018 at 22:42

    Zwayer with a correct free kick and YC for deliberate handball in the wall. So far I would say very good when some minutes are missing to the end of the game.

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  37. Marco Neri24 October 2018 at 22:45

    Very tight offside for the 3rd goal in Dortmund. Could be spotted only with var

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  38. Chefren24 October 2018 at 22:55

    In the last minute of the game, very likely missed RC for SFP by Zwayer (Draxler).

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    1. Jackson25 October 2018 at 01:32

      For me he missed two red cards for SFP and cannot be given a good mark.

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  39. Howard Maxi24 October 2018 at 22:56

    Very bad foul by Draxler (PSG) in 90'+5, but YC still supportable for me. Also, excellent player management.

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  40. Mikael W24 October 2018 at 23:03

    I didn't see all of Hațegan, but especially in 2H he positively impressed me.
    He was able to facilitate a great football match, eliminating cynical and reckless plays, and he really 'felt' what this match needed from it's referee- well done.
    I was impressed with how he dealt with a kaleidoscope of challenging players, sometimes with empathy and sometimes being firm- impressive flexibility that I never really saw from him before. Still, I think he could work to have a firmer optic.

    Well done to Mr Hațegan, important stage of his development.

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    1. Stake24 October 2018 at 23:09

      I watched the full match, I can confirm all these impressions. Really well done tonight by Ovidiu Hategan. I'm happy that despite the NIR-SUI game, he did not fall down, but continued his very good progress. If he continues like that, I'm sure he can reach something big in future!

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  41. Osborne24 October 2018 at 23:16

    I can report a very good Hategan at Camp Nou, he set a clear line between foul and no foul, with some play on decisions on Suarez and Icardi in the penalty area. First YC to BAR #9 (Suarez) at 62' was fully correct and important, there might have been 2 previous fouls, one each side, that could have been worth it, but in the spirit of this game it was supportable and there were major complaints. Maybe an excessive YC at 74' to INT #37. 
    Good calls on a series of handballs as well.
    I didn't spot any mistakes from the ARs as well, although there were few offside situations. 
    Calm attitude and slightly distant but effective management of players.

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  42. Nathan M.25 October 2018 at 00:23

    OT: List of French referees who are candidates for FIFA 2019 international badge (by Order)

    Clément Turpin
    Benoît Bastien
    Ruddy Buquet
    Benoît Millot
    Amaury Delerue
    Frank Schneider
    François Letexier
    Nicolas Rainville
    Jérôme Brisard
    Karim Abed

    AR:
    Nicolas Danos
    Cyril Gringore
    Guillaume Debart
    Frédéric Haquette
    Hicham Zakrani
    Julien Pacelli
    Bertrand Jouannaud
    Cyril Mugnier
    Benjamin Pagès
    Mehdi Rahmouni

    Still same names, as expected

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  43. Jackson25 October 2018 at 00:47

    Anthony Taylor ignoring clear dissent by word and action from Diego Costa 19 minutes in.

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  44. Euro Soccer Ref25 October 2018 at 09:42

    Two SFP incidents from PSG - Napoli:

    1) https://streamable.com/0scb1
    2) https://streamable.com/fm73p

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    1. Euro Soccer Ref25 October 2018 at 09:53

      No doubts, both incidents are clear cases of serious foul play. What is very alarming: Zwayer was perfectly positioned in both cases and yet, somehow, he assessed both fouls as only reckless. Unacceptable at this level.

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    2. Chefren25 October 2018 at 10:19

      Well, the second situation is indeed a very clear SFP, it looks like an attack to the opponent, without any reason. This is a clear mistake by referee. In the first situation one can still discuss, basically RC would be absolutely appropriate, but maybe YC not 100% wrong decision, given also the intensity of the challenge.

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    3. lucac221825 October 2018 at 10:29

      Although you use strong (and attention: in the ears of some people maybe polemic) words like "no doubts" and "clear" and "alarming" and "unacceptable", I now like to present my opinion and offer a contribution to the discussion.

      5'': Contact point suggests SFP. Contact type suggests SFP more than reckless, but leaves some room for support (no absolutely full hit, but rather striped). Intensity is difficult to assess we have no Video angle to assess this. Vlad, do you have another angle in normal speed which clears this up? From the normal camera, I cannot Judge if it was high or moderate intensity. But I believe it's in between.


      95'': Intensity seems to be moderate to high. Type of tackle leaves a huge room for SFP or even VC generally. Contact point: hard to judge from the only perspective in your Video. Again my question: Did you watch another camera than I could do? From the camera shown you can however see that the studs did not fully hit the calf or knee, but instead it was the instep / tip of the boot. This would be an important argument for reckless. Furthermore, positioning is not everything as you probably know, it's more About viewing angles. Otherwise Zwayer would surely not have looked out to the 4th official in this situation to seek support.

      In my opinion, to sum it up, 5'' is more SFP than reckless to me and 95'' is not clearly SFP due to the contact Point, but could be SFP because of the nature of the tackle and intensity. In both cases, it is like 70% SFP for me and therefore the decisions are questionable, but supportable. Considering the game contexts, I can understand why he went for yellow in both occasions. I talked a lot about the technical side of These tackles, but there's also a practical. Something only the Referee on the field can judge best, because he's in this situation, but with a bit of empathy I believe to know what went through his mind.

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    4. Euro Soccer Ref25 October 2018 at 11:16

      It's a discussion, I have no problem accepting others' views. Nonetheless, I strongly disagree with relativization of the danger such fouls entails. Point of contact in the first incident clearly indicates SFP

      https://pasteboard.co/HK3WURt.png

      Also there is no explanation for such leg movement. The balls was on the ground, already played by an opponent.

      As for the second incident, it's not only highly dangerous tackle, but also act of brutality. The player is out of control, flying over the ground

      https://pasteboard.co/HK3Y5po.png

      and making dangerous studs contact with an opponent's calf

      https://pasteboard.co/HK3YCUk.png

      Sorry, but despite the sincere desire I can't understand the decisions to issue only yellow cards for both offences. For me both stays as clear examples of serious foul play.

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    5. lucac221825 October 2018 at 14:35

      Thank you for the time taken to further explain! I can agree with all your arguments, and I can agree that you can see it like that.

      However, even after 10 times watching this is not 100% black 0% white for me. It is a verrry dark shade of grey in my perception. I hope I have added some points which Maybe also made the referee decide like he decided. This should not be misunderstood as a relativization of the danger of such fouls, but as sheding light on certain aspects of These tackles which were not highlighted previously. To be clear: If he sends off both players, I'm the first one happy about this.

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  45. Jaak25 October 2018 at 16:51

    1/ One can still discuss
    2/ 200% RC for brutality

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