Monday, 21 November 2022

2022 FIFA World Cup Match 3: England - Iran (discussion)

The first game of Day 2 at 2022 World Cup is the match between England and Iran, to be officiated by Raphael Claus from Brazil. We discuss his performance here. 



Match #3
Al Rayyan, 21 November 2022 (14:00 CET)
ENGLAND - IRAN
Referee: Raphael Claus (BRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Rodrigo Figueiredo (BRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Danilo Manis (BRA)
Fourth Official: Kevin Ortega (PER)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Michael Orué (PER)
Video Assistant Referee: Leodan González (URU)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Julio Bascuñán (CHI)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Martín Soppi (URU)
Support Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Standby Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Pablo Belatti (ARG)

83 comments:

  1. I haven't seen match by Claus. As an English person I'll try and be impartial. Let's have a good game please.

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  2. Good call,both sides,Maguire and IRN player were pushing and hugging so no penalty good call.

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    1. Absolutely no stonewall.

      If anything,grey area where penalty can be called,but 100%sure penalty come on now,Maguire was even pulling opposing player down.

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    2. IF Maguire pulled down his opponent, it was only after his opponent grabbed him around the waste with two arms, and only because he fell down, taking along the defender. First foul then definitely was the holding by defender.

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  3. VAR check for a possible penalty for holding, I was afraid they were about to intervene, but then absolutely correct to play on, not enough for clear and obvious mistake.

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    1. Agreed in my opinion it was a bit of both

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    2. To me it was even more than a bit of both; rather than the defender pulling Maguire down, it was actually Maguire (quite sneakily) pulling the defender down. A clever attempt to make it look like a foul, Claus does well to see through it.

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    3. Not clear and obvios mistake is the European approach. I thought that FIFA applies the best decision considering the Lotg, or smth like that, and I remember that most of the users said they prefer this approach rather than what we see in Europe. We should remember what Kwiatkowski told in an interview after the Arab Cup. We need 4-5 games to understand what approach Collina wants at this tournament, but anycase, I guess no soft penalties like Rosetti at euro. I don't say that this was neccessary a penalty, but "not clear and obvios mistake" is not a valid argument this month.

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    4. Well, actually I’m astonished now even Maguire is ‘accused’ of having committed the foul…….
      For me this should have been a penalty. Attacker is only interested in going to the ball, defender is only interested in stopping attacker from doing that. Then with TWO(!) arms the defender embraces the attacker, what more should happen before a penalty is to be awarded?

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  4. Well that didn't take long for England's first penalty appeal from a set piece. We all remember 2018.

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    1. I had the same thought! Also a Brazilian involved (Ricci) that time :)

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  5. Good decission
    No PK. Holding from both sides

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  6. Take the Iran keeper off. This does not look good

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  7. Think how much added time there is going to be now! :D
    Agree with the comments, no penalty, mutual holding; González checked it carefully.
    Claus looks quite focused today. Let's hope he can continue the good work from yesterday!

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  8. Ref needs to get in with this head injury 8 mins stopped

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  9. About 15 minutes of added time in first half, to be honest this is a mismanagement by Iranian side, I can understand that player wanted to continue, but one can't wait a so long time! Never seen a so long break at WC.

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    1. I make it 8 mins for the first time and 2 1/2 for 2nd

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    2. Not less than 10, in case of wrong choice by Claus, I think Collina will be very angry! Let's see.

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  10. This stoppage is ridiculous to be honest.

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  11. I would say it is unbelievable, but it is entirely predictable when unlike other sports you have weak referees and doctors, and no temporary substitutions which incentivise teams to keep players on the pitch. Fortunately he's now gone off before he gets another head clash and suffers a serious injury.

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  12. Is the first subtitution (Iran GK) will be from official 5 or not... They wrote (TV) suspect concussion

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  13. What is the rule for the number of substitutions? Head injury allows one extra sub?

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    1. Iran have made a concussion substitute so make things fair England have now been given the opportunity to make an extra substitute

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    2. So both teams can do 6 substitiutions?

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    3. In German TV they said, Iran is allowed to make one extra sub because of head injury while England cannot make an extra sub.

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    4. The Premier league have used concussion substitutes and that is I'm believed the rules. Iran have made a concussion substitute (can do this twice in a game). The other team (would only make 5 subs) so iran make 6 while England only allowed to make 5 wouldn't be fair

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    5. If a player has suffered or is suspected to have suffered a concussion, teams will now be able to make a single permanent concussion substitution.

      To help make these decisions, medical staff will be at each game to review video footage to check if the injury is likely to have led to a concussion.

      This allows each country to put the health of their players first without having to impact their five permitted substitutions.

      To avoid any extra advantage being given to the team who uses a concussion sub, the opposing side will also be allowed an extra change.

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  14. And first YC quite clear,looks like receipt from yesterday we will see again.

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  15. Claus is really showing off his fitness here, he is running *everywhere*, to every foul, and then always recovering quickly into a good position.

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    1. His running style reminds me a lot of Pitana.

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    2. Why is running to every foul a good thing?
      sometimes less is more. And for 70% of the fouls, body language is enough. it all looks very artificial. too strained. or have you seen collina, rizzolli, brych, kuipers always running around like crazy?

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    1. I don't believe a card was shown unlike yesterday.

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  17. Wonderful decision with 14 minutes of added time.
    Collina will be proud.

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  18. Great advantage for the 3rd England goal. 14 mins added time (about right in my opinion) is the first time I've seen a number higher then 10.

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  19. Great advantage by Claus....and goal :)

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  20. What happened there? Clock said we'd barely played 13 of the 14 minutes allocated.

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    1. I think it should be a problem of your broadcaster, everything was OK as you can see here:
      https://ibb.co/GHZXBbY

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  21. I don't care - Collina is the GOAT!! Knowing Claus as some of us do, I feel safe to say that now. Deep, deep respect for the Italian for being able to do this in 2022(!) and, for what it is worth - my deep gratitude too.

    Finally, finally - after twelve years, it seems we will have a World Cup of which we can be proud of again. Thank you Mr Collina!!

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    1. Fully agree with everything you said, Mikael.

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  22. Very good 1H for me. I agree with the play on decision in 3', mutual holding/pulling IMO. Very nice to see adequate amount of time added, great advantage before England's third goal. Foul detection optimal for this match IMO, disciplinary line adequate. One mistake to mention is missed offside by AR2 in 45+11', but no consequences.

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  23. Good first half for the Brasilian referee.

    Sometning I don't like is mobbing managment ... Generally speaking, it would be interesting to see how the referee would act in case of close match result... Now, after 3:0 everyone
    on the pitch are calm.

    Of course, I don't want to say that waving with YCs for mobbing and dissent is the only solution but lack of clear and strong verbal warnings suprised me a lot.

    Especially if we take into account the fact that the Brasilian has natural authority (reminds me of Pitana but he doesn't use his body language as good as referee from Argentina).

    All the best in the second half.

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    1. And yes, hello everyone!
      I'm back on the blog after 3 years.

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  24. Another example of the ball being on the corner quadrant, yet the referee from 15-20m away thinking it isn't and making the player move it. Never quite understood that one

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  25. Missed foul on Trippier 51'. Strange because it looked like he saw it and waved play on.

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  26. 2nd advantage leading to goal by Claus!

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  27. Another great advantage for the 4th goal. I'm liking this referee.

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    1. It looked like an offside from Bellingham to me. GK was unsighted.

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    2. That should be a BIG mistake by Claus-Manis-González tbh :/

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    3. Apologies - it seems Bellingham was just ONSIDE. I'm sure González checked it. As you were!

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    4. Did you rewatch it Mikael? Good to hear :)

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    5. :)

      https://imgur.com/a/TsJwIfz

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  28. Very strange position by Claus in each kick-off

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  29. I am glad Claus is doing great today, albeit in an easy game. He was often sluggish this year in Brazilian Série A as he seemed to have only eyes towards the WC. His big day has arrived and he showed up accordingly.

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  30. You'll see a whole different style in Sampaio later today. Sampaio runs a lot more, to begin with. Always keeping up with play. Looking forward to comments on which style you prefer.

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    1. And much more giving in terms of bookings,also far more Uefa style from Sampaio than Claus.

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  31. Brych wouldn't have added 10mins to this half :-D

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  32. Now in 90+7 that was crystalclear booking,but who cares... 😀

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  33. And now we have to discuss about this VAR intervention, why not for the holding at the beginning of the game?
    To be honest, it is difficult to get the point here...

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  34. Sorry, but this OFR is nothing less than ridiculous when compared to the 3’ minute no penalty call….

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    1. Only that make sense for me is this is one sided action pulling from shirt. Generally I agree if VAR called referee for an OFR, then he should have done same for 3rd Minute incident.

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  35. 2 games in first OFR at the dying seconds for shirt pulling. Surely if that's a penalty England should have had one in the first half.

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  36. And no booking for Stones if there was penalty?

    Come on now...

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  37. Inconsistent application of VAR, nothing in that Iran penalty when compared to the one early in the game on Maguire.

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  38. Just want to underline, this was for a 6-2 score, but this call in a different context can decide a team that qualify. Where are the criteria? I was afraid during first half, but then this happened in second half. Even more wrong if you ask me because one can make a comparison and what are the different arguments? VAR can't work in this way, there isn't any objective fact that can help us in understanding VAR choice.

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    1. Wow... what is the line of VAR intervention? Never enough for OFR after that no OFR call in the 3'.

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  39. It feels inconsistent, but the line needs to be drawn somewhere. The Stones incident in the first half there was a small hold and he threw himself down. This hold was preventing the attacker from jumping to the ball, it was a significant force pulling him down. It does feel weird, I think maybe this one was not a clear and obvious error; however, this is certainly more of a penalty than the incident we saw in the first half.

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    1. Different individuals, different opinions but I cannot disagree with you more. A two-armed pull going unpunished while a ‘small’ pulling the shirt is even considered a clear error. Beats me…

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  40. The clear difference between the 2 penalty situations is that Maguire was pulling as well, whereas the Iranian player did absolutely nothing. I can see the difference, but I don't think this is a penalty, especially not after VAR.
    I must also add that I don't think this is the type of game where the increase in extra time was meant to be. Collina would have been perfectly fine with 3 minutes of additional time and actually no one wants to see 10 more minutes when the score is 6-1. There wasn't anything extraordinary in the second half either. I think Claus (and González) will regret the 10 minutes now, as both will have some explaining to do

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    1. We are not talking about Maguire, it was mutual holding.
      Stones (no 6) was fouled player and that situation was evalued as possible PK.

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  41. It would have been a 9 but due to the inconsistencies of the VAR it's an 8.5 for me. Loved how he handled the players but simply it should have been at least 7-2 if it was consistent in my opinion. Added time was spot on in both half's although think the referee could have got involved with the decision to take off the Iranian goalkeeper you could clearly see he wasn't right. England should have had a penalty and iran deserved there's.

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  42. It's much more obvious when going through different angles at different speeds to see a stretched shirt than the movement and force of wrapped arms and we also don't know what Claus reported at 3' - if he said it was mutual then it would be hard to suggest an OFR. However, it is certainly murky and doesn't leave a very good impression.

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  43. @Mikael W
    Will you do the analysis of all the matches? I hope so.

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    1. Thanks! Very kind comment :)

      Owing to the very 'quickfire' nature of the games, for this WC, I am sharing the analysis duties with two very able Law 5 users too; looking forward to reading their analyses myself! My match today in the roster will be SENNED.

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    2. Well, then I will read 21 your analysis. The full coverage of the tournament is guaranteed too! Thank you.

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  44. Overall, a decent performance.

    BUT why always this very nervous acting with the quick sprints to every little foul. The South American referees in particular also whistle in large stadiums in front of many spectators.
    It all just seems too strained and not sovereign.

    And the rules for clear scores with injury time are a disaster.

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  45. Analysis

    Key Match Incidents:

    03’ - Penalty area incident: holding. There are two holding offences in this scene. At first, 8IRN fights with 5ENG and it’s unclear whether the decisive contact occurred before or after the corner kick execution. The second, two-handed holding by 15IRN on 6ENG is surely very blatant but there are arguments to back the play-on call as well. The first and, in my opinion, key argument that made Leodán González silent was the fact that the holding actually didn’t have ANY impact on play - it was simply far away from where the ball was played. The second argument is that the 6ENG tried to free himself by holding the ancestor as well and, while falling down quite exaggeratedly, caused his fall rather than the other way round. Of course, to be clear, an on-field review and penalty (+YC), wouldn’t be a mistake! I just think it’s preferable to let it go when there are small arguments against such a big call AND the incident has absolutely no impact on play.

    43’ - Irani team suggested a possible foul prior to England's second goal. According to them, there was ‘jumping at an opponent’ while fighting for the high ball. Nah, fair fight for the ball and if not whistled on the field by the referee, surely not a stuff for on-field review.

    45+1’, 62’ - Third and fourth England’s goals scored after very good advantages (fourth one also after good onside call) played by Raphael Claus. It always gives the referee confidence and, let’s say it, real joy!

    90+10’ - Penalty area incident: holding (shirt tugging). Contrary to the PAI at 03’, this incident occurred within playing distance - ball played very close to the place where the infringement took place. The offence - although discrete (Claus can’t be much blamed for missing the shirt tugging) - really decreased the Irani player’s chances to fight for the ball. Therefore, the reaction of Leodán González was also different, and rightly so! After reviewing the incident, Raphael Claus awarded a penalty but surprisingly didn’t caution 5ENG for SPA.

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    1. Overview:

      Before the game, we knew Raphael Claus as quite a passive and lenient referee who prefers a laidback style rather than to play the boss on the field of play. How differently the Brazilian performed today! Strongly focused from the first minute of the (very one-sided!) game, Claus even over-reacted to some “normal” offences by running towards the place where they occurred. It’s not difficult, especially nowadays, to imagine a referee walking through such a game without passion, being completely in the shadows and missing some incidents. It shows us how much Pierluigi Collina motivated the referees before the tournament! We experienced same “WC2022 things” as yesterday: referee being a very strong personality / leader on the pitch, zero tolerance for stealing metres at throw-ins (33’, 39’, 76’, 82’) and extraordinary lost time compensation (fourteen and ten minutes added to both halves respectively has to be a record!). By the way, I want to say here that such OBJECTIVE lost time compensation as we see at this tournament - no matter the result on the scoreboard - is warmly welcomed, at least by me. This is how to ensure fair standings with regard to goal difference. Remember, it could be very important at the end of the group stage! Another masterclass by Mr. Collina.

      Disciplinary control was good in general. Two mandatory yellow cards for reckless step on foot by 7IRN (25’) and reckless tackle by 8IRN (48’) were correctly given - especially the latter was not easy to spot (ankle stuck under the tackling player’s body). I missed stronger reaction against dissenting behaviour / mobbing by Irani players though - first one at 38’ after FK for handball, second one at 43’ by almost whole team after second England’s goal and third, most excessive one, by 21IRN after FK decision at 45+2’. It would be the biggest point for improvement in an otherwise very good performance - however, it could’ve also inflamed the frustrated Irani players as well... Another YC could/should have followed for the shirt tugging the last-minute penalty has been awarded for.

      Our user F.K. compared Claus to Néstor Pitana. And rightly so! His athletic body and strong personality reminds the famous Argentinian. One has to also mention an excellent fitness preparation of the Brazilian. Even though we could see Claus fatigued at the end of the game (understandable given the amount of added time), his running, sprints and pro-active positioning (sometimes over the top, especially in the first half, as pointed out by Tom in the comments - but better to be over-motivated than lose alertness!) were top class!

      In a nutshell, three correct / supportable decisions regarding key match incidents (OFR after a very-difficult-to-detect offence), two goals scored after good advantages, very strong leadership, excellent fitness preparation and positioning, and very good implementation of FIFA Referees Committee’s (Collina’s) instructions. That was a very solid performance and another game will surely follow. The way of dealing with dissenting behaviour should be improved.

      Marks:
      Raphael Claus - 7
      Rodrigo Figueiredo - 7
      Danilo Manis - 7
      Leodán González - III

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