Tuesday, 22 November 2022

Game 7: Chris Beath in Mexico vs. Poland (discussion)

Big game for the phlegmatic Aussie - perhaps the key match in Group C. 
Let's talk about his refereeing here.


Game 7 - Doha (17:00 CET)
MEXICO - POLAND
Referee: Christopher Beath (AUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Anton Shchetinin (AUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Ashley Beecham (AUS)
Fourth Official: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Neuza Back (BRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Shaun Evans (AUS)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Nicolás Gallo (COL)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Martín Soppi (URU)
Support Video Assistant Referee: Juan Soto (VEN)
Standby Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Djibril Camara (SEN)

32 comments:

  1. 8th minute, can't two injured players (one from each team) remain on the field of play after receiving treatment, rather than having to leave, wait for play to restart, then come back on?

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    1. No, this is only true if there are 2 players from the same team - as this would create an unfair advantage to the other team.

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    1. Now in 2nd half similar situation, nothing given,not the same criterium.

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  3. Possible penalty, interesting to see if ref shows PK whether he'll show RC...

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  4. Don't agree with a penalty there. 50/50 for me and then keeper came

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  5. For me, not clear and obvious mistake. If he whistles PK, then red card IMO

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  6. Even Lewandowski did not appeal at the time

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  7. VAR has no business getting involved there. What happened to minimum intervention for maximum benefit?

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  8. Some tense moments and very passive ref,game is gonna get out of hand if he does not react...

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  9. Should be OFR for possible RC at 61', which could be given. But inexplicably no review.

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  10. never a pen for me. there is some contact permitted in the penalty area both players using their arms. this is where VAR loses credibility.

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    1. It was more than just their arms, the Mexico player was shirt pulling and then stuck out a leg. You could see on the replays the ref trying to get a view of the incident from behind, so presumably he didn't see everything that the reverse angle OFR showed.

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  11. Now clear stamp,no YC.

    Weakest performance so far IMO.

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  12. Missed YC for polish player now, that was a stamping. Beath is loosing any authority, and is struggling for control, too passive for that heated game now.

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  13. Yc,stamp,ok now,same case 10 minutes ago and nothing was given.

    And now again Bereczynski stamp on Lozano,not even foul.

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  14. Very weak performance by Beath. Problems with foul detections, many missed clear YCs for stamps doubftful penalty.

    I will be very surprised if Aussie will get another match.

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  15. This performance is a result of a referee who is deeply indoctrinated in the overly lenient and permissive ways of the Australian A-League. Where at times the games more closely resemble Aussie Rules or downright Rugby.

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    1. hahahaha
      That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

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    2. But its accurate. When you watch it each week, thats a good summation

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  16. Think we've seen the good, bad and the ugly in the 3 matches so far today. Thought the Aussie was out of his depth. Echo the sentiments above that I doubt he'll get another match

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  17. M is right in his comment from 18:26, this was the weakest performance so far IMO. I agree that the penalty is somewhat doubtful, but still supportable for me (especially taking into consideration criteria FIFA has for VAR interventions). 1H was perfectly fine, however, when the match heated up in the 2H, I think Beath showed some important deficiencies in his refereeing style. Primarily, it was his rather passive attitude which he wasn't able to adequately adapt when the match needed it, sometimes it felt like he was struggling for control. It all resulted in, IMO, 3 missed YC's, all of them mandatory for my taste (61', 68', 78'). Unfortunately, I wasn't convinced by his performance today at all.

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  18. If I had never heard of Chris Beath before, I would have assumed he was English: not very much movement, too lenient foul selection and disciplinary control, always a calm demeanor.

    I don't think this was a terribly bad game by Beath, but certainly some things below average.

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    1. This game required a more "energetic" referee who would inject himself into situations and not just calmly stand by hoping that the players would sort themselves out.

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    2. Which lead us to the conclusion it was a bad appointment.

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  19. Penalty is supportable but never a clear and obvious mistake, after a certain start of the tournament, we could say that we have the classic FIFA approach with VAR about some incidents, but let's see whether also the UEFA VARs will be consistent in that...

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  20. Analysis

    Chris Beath was appointed in what became a very important game earlier today, following Argentina unexpected loss against Saudi Arabia. Let's review the differents aspects of his refereeing:

    Key Match Incidents:

    56' Penalty given after OFR to Poland + YC for genuine SPA; possible non-genuine DOGSO
    https://streamable.com/tppxo4

    In this situation, there is two possible outcomes:
    -Punishing the shirt pulling, and ignoring the slight push of the attacker: PK + RC to be given.
    -Blowing the whistle for the ( quite clear (!) ) tripping by the defender, and going for PK + YC for genuine SPA.
    However, it remains a mistake for me to play on in this case, considering FIFA's approach: you might expect from a WC referee to see it live. Not an ultra-clear penalty initially missed,(and probably a play-on in e.g. UEFA competitions) but an offense I think Beath should've spotted live.
    Good intervention by VAR Evans according to the FIFA guidelines, quick process as well.

    Balance:

    In a fast developping and passionate match, I remain with a sour taste in mouth when I overlook the Aussie's performance. While his 1H was quite satisfying overall, he showed some significant deficiencies in MtG in my book:

    Disciplinary control was quite inconsistent: his opening card in 29' might've been avoided with a stern verbal warning (we'll see below it wasn't surprising he didn't solved with charisma)
    56',61'(staff) and 76' Ycs were fully correct, but he ended up missing two 100% cautions for reckless stamps (68',78') and let go two very borderline offenses in 61' and 87'.

    His passive demeanor in the last half an hour was also a weakness, despite being Beath's style: He missed many occasions to "jump-in" (29',30',84',87',90+1';90+2',90+3'), not being in control of the players' actions. This game required a strong proactive display, and the Aussie didn't delivered it.

    One satisfaction was his foul selection/duels assessments.
    If not for one wronk FK in 76', it was visible he felt comfortable separating e.g. fair body challenges from impeding offenses, or clean tackles from illegal challenges.

    Conclusion:

    While Beath maintained the match under control in the big picture, his WC debut wasn't the sharpest one. Surely not a performance to be rejected by FIFA, but one who has the merit of asking about a different approach in the AFC referees appointments.

    AR1 performed in a expected-level, AR2 had an interesting offside decision in 90+2', otherwise unchallenged.

    ( 6 - 7 - 7 - III )

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