Monday 5 December 2022

Clément Turpin in Round of 16 Brazil - South Korea (discussion)

CONMEBOL - AFC duel for French referee Clément Turpin in 2022 WC's Round of 16. He is about to officiate Brazil - South Korea. Let's follow him. 



Game 54 - Doha (20:00 CET)
BRAZIL - SOUTH KOREA
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Slavko Vincic (SVN)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Tomasz Klancnik (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Jerome Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Roberto Diaz Perez Del Palomar (ESP)
Support Video Assistant Referee: Benoit Millot (FRA)
Standby Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Anton Shchetinin (AUS)
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  1. Chefren5 December 2022 at 19:25

    Exchanges UEFA - CONMEBOL continue.
    A Portuguese trio led by Joao Pedro Silva Pinheiro will be UEFA guest at CONMEBOL SUB20 2023, to be played on next month.
    After Luis Godinho another Portuguese will visit CONMEBOL.

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    1. Quilava5 December 2022 at 19:54

      Might we expect a Conmebol trio in 2023 U21 Euro?

      I think all UEFA referee teams in Conmebol tournaments so far have been Iberian (Gil Manzano's trio + De Burgos Bengoetxea & Munuera Montero as VAR in 2021 Copa América, Braz Bastos with a Portuguese and a Spanish AR in Women's Copa América, Godinho & now Pinheiro)

      I understand for language reasons but I think that it has to change!

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    2. Chefren5 December 2022 at 20:15

      You are right, I forgot Braz Bastos, it seems as UEFA sends only Portuguese and Spanish referees due to language issues. They should change, indeed.

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  2. Anonymous5 December 2022 at 19:34

    Mark my words: Turpin is the pre-arranged referee for the World Cup final 2022. Another political choice. An arrangement between FIFA/UEFA and France.

    They have optimally prepared him; Europa League final 2021 - FIFA Club World Cup 2022 - Champions League final 2022. There are imho no other explanations for his quick run.

    Good luck to him and his crew. I hate such pre-arrangements, though...

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    1. Anonymous5 December 2022 at 20:07

      I think Kovacs shows maybe European assignments don't mean so much. The CWC finals are historically either a consolation for a top referee just short of a final or a preparation for referees from smaller areas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FIFA_Club_World_Cup_finals)

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    2. CHOW6 December 2022 at 03:40

      France is likely to beat England and even go all the way to WC Final. That means Turpin cannot officiate the final match. Too bad

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  3. diego6125 December 2022 at 19:53

    Where is Vincic??!!!???

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  4. Nathan M.5 December 2022 at 20:02

    All the best to team Turpin, maybe last match of Cyril Gringore tonight.

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  5. anty755 December 2022 at 20:12

    Thats a dive fron Richarlison where is VAR???

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  6. Davidcrammond5 December 2022 at 20:13

    Never never never a penalty. 10/10 for the diving Olympics. Reckon that may have cost Turpin the final.

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  7. Gozie Joe5 December 2022 at 20:13

    Very soft penalty. Wow 😳

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  8. Marko235 December 2022 at 20:15

    I think it's not VAR stuff since there is contact, but that penalty is too soft and too easily whistled by Turpin.

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    1. Arthur335 December 2022 at 21:50

      Not a soft penalty at all, keep in mind that replay slows motion.

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  9. Panterwe5 December 2022 at 20:16

    FIFA dont want surprise lol

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  10. Michael5 December 2022 at 20:17

    Must be about 3 minutes to be added on already with these choreographed celebrations!

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  11. Fab GX5 December 2022 at 20:17

    Come on! Clear PK. No Room for discussion

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    1. gabri.filo5 December 2022 at 20:22

      Thank you. Videos of such situations have been used to train referees at every level, for years. This is a codified PK, regardless of the diving.

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    2. Fab GX5 December 2022 at 20:27

      Exactly. Despite spetacularization It was PK

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    3. Mikael W5 December 2022 at 20:54

      +1. Richarlison read the ball better than the defender and was carelessly kicked.

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    4. Vuga5 December 2022 at 21:25

      Exactly, clear Pk

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  12. Chefren5 December 2022 at 20:18

    One should say that in this scenario all people expect penalty, Italian commentators were fully convinced about it, and I think in case of play on they would have been astonished. It's easier to explain the penalty call here, than play on, never a mistake in all cases, but surely Brazilian attacker uses the situation, as Korean defender has not any awareness of him and the contact looks rather soft.
    Still OK for me in the overall picture.

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    1. Elliot5 December 2022 at 20:21

      +1

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    2. Quilava5 December 2022 at 20:27

      +1. It's softer that what it seems at first glance, but my instant thought watching the game live was 'penalty'

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    3. Anonymous5 December 2022 at 20:35

      In slowmotion it was nothing, really.

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  13. Anonymous5 December 2022 at 20:19

    I hate these penalties but it was. Especially looking at other calls in this tournament like the goalie gloves penalty.

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  14. RFEF SK5 December 2022 at 20:28

    What kind of positioning at the pitch!? Come on Turpin

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  15. MRB5 December 2022 at 20:28

    So many are prepared to attack non-uefa referees for their penalty decisions, but Turpin's is acceptable because he's European.

    Some of the biases in this blog are amazing.

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    1. VG5 December 2022 at 20:31

      No, it's acceptable because he kicked a player on the foot. It's always a foul because it's the definition of being careless. Attacker got the ball, defender got the foot.

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    2. MRB5 December 2022 at 20:33

      But 2 weeks on, people continue to claim Elfath's penalty was wrong - this Brazilian pen had less contact!!

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    3. Anonymous5 December 2022 at 20:34

      +1
      In slowmotion it was nothing

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  16. Nole5 December 2022 at 20:31

    Oh what a goal! Brazilian style!

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  17. diego6125 December 2022 at 20:32

    The opening game of WC14 is revived, who do you think will take over the CRO-BRA?
    I go with Oliver

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    1. Chefren5 December 2022 at 20:35

      Would be too shocking to read Barton name? :)

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    2. diego6125 December 2022 at 20:38

      Why not? Lol

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    3. kosino945 December 2022 at 20:38

      Chefren: Barton is of course possible for Ned-Arg and also Cro-Bra :-) Just like Elfath.

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    4. kosino945 December 2022 at 20:40

      Sorry, Elfath only for Ned-Arg, no way had two games of the same team in a row...

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    5. Anonymous5 December 2022 at 20:47

      Barton on individual merit maybe, but with AR problems and less political support, seeing him with another whistle would be shocking.

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  18. kosino945 December 2022 at 20:36

    Cro-Bra? Maybe Gomez or Mohammed, or somebody from UEFA (Oliver, Makkelie, Taylor, Lahoz, Orsato...). I don't expect someone who already had RO16 game, but everything is possible.

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    1. diego6125 December 2022 at 20:37

      But thinking about it if FIFA wants to maintain the rule, if Ramos performs well tomorrow
      why not?

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    2. gabri.filo5 December 2022 at 20:49

      Although I believe that Mohammed would definitely deserve another game, he doesn't stand a chance of being appointed for BRA - CRO

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    3. Barry Porter5 December 2022 at 23:34

      Cesar Ramos officiating Brazil is virtually impossible. Brazilian FA would never accept it due to BRA-SWI four years ago.

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    4. CHOW6 December 2022 at 03:46

      Got this feeling that have to give Arab nations referee another big appointment. I'll pick Mohammed for BRA-CRO

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  19. Anonymous5 December 2022 at 20:36

    If that PK was whistled in a final or against a top country, Monsieur Turpin would be screwed. Very soft call imo. In real speed it looked a stonewall penalty, in slowmotion it's nothing.

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    1. VG5 December 2022 at 20:46

      In slow motion most fouls look way softer than they were...

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    2. Mr. W5 December 2022 at 20:47

      How is Turpin ment to see in slow motion. I would love to 😍

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    3. Anonymous5 December 2022 at 20:50

      @VG disagree. Slowmotions make a foul or SFP's always looks worse, unless there is barely a contact like here.

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  20. diego6125 December 2022 at 21:55

    He finished it 1 min before ?????

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    1. Ref5 December 2022 at 22:08

      Mmmh absolutely not. He finished it 4:00 on the dot.

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    2. diego6125 December 2022 at 22:09

      No sir, he finished it at 2:59 I'm 100% sure

      Although it doesn't matter because everything was already defined lol

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    3. Ref5 December 2022 at 22:26

      https://ibb.co/wgPtGwp

      Definitely looks like a 4 up there...

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    4. diego6126 December 2022 at 04:33

      OMG you are right
      It was a mistake on my television, what a shame, sorry...
      i feel so dumb

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  21. Andrasch Neunert5 December 2022 at 22:12

    A boarderline soft PK and several minor mistakes, foul detection average, sometimes strange positioning, all in all not so bad - but not really convincing imo.

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  22. Ref Al5 December 2022 at 22:29

    PK - Attacker was kicked. It's careless, like it or not. No way VAR can step in once referee calls it.

    FIFIA highlights showed a hilarious offside situation in 67' where FRA keeper parried a ball into a prone KOR attacker's bottom. I hope AR raised flag for that. :)

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