23 October 2019, 18:55 CET - Leipzig (Red Bull Arena)
RB Leipzig (GER) - FC Zenit (RUS)
Referee: Ali Palabıyık (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Serkan Olguncan (TUR)
Fourth Official: Halis Özkahya (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Tormod Larsen (NOR)
Group H
23 October 2019, 18:55 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
AFC Ajax (NED) - Chelsea FC (ENG)
Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Şovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Eugen Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sebastian Constantin Colțescu (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bo Karlsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Iva Olivari (CRO)
Group E
23 October 2019, 21:00 CET - Genk (Luminus Arena)
KRC Genk (BEL) - Liverpool FC (ENG)
Referee: Slavko Vinčič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alain Hamer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Loukás Siótropos (GRE)
Group E
23 October 2019, 21:00 CET - Salzburg (Red Bull Arena)
FC Red Bull Salzburg (AUT) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Frank Schneider (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingvarsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER)
Group F
23 October 2019, 21:00 CET - Prague (Sinobo Stadium)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE) - FC Barcelona (ESP)
Referee: Robert Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: David Roome (SCO)
Fourth Official: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Joost van Zuilen (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stávros Tritsónis (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Tarik Shamel (ENG)
Group F
23 October 2019, 21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: David Coote (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Tulinger (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Martin Sturkenboom (NED)
Group G
23 October 2019, 21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do SL Benfica)
SL Benfica (POR) - Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomáš Somoláni (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Fourth Official: Peter Kráľovič (SVK)
Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Gil (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kýros Vassáras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Clive Whitehead (ENG)
Group H
23 October 2019, 21:00 CET - Villeneuve-d'Ascq (Stade Pierre Mauroy)
Lille OSC (FRA) - Valencia CF (ESP)
Referee: Deniz Aytekin (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Eduard Beitinger (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Boris Stankov (BUL)
Ahead of his CL début on Wednesday, you can watch highlights of the Montenegro - Czechia game last month handled by Ali Palabıyık.
ReplyDeletehttp://ok.ru/video/1226658089507
Absolutely unexpected debut for Ali Palabıyık if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteAnother big game for Taylor!
I believe Ali Palabiyik is a short term solution, for Turkish Referees presence at CL. Cuneyt Cakir will retire end of 2021-22 season. Till that time I believe Halil Umut Meler will gain enough experience and take his role.
DeleteAli Palabiyik's Europe career surprises me a lot. IMO he is behind many referees (Cakir, Aydinus(ex FIFA), Gocek, Meler) in Turkey but seems better than others (except cakir) in Europe. Good luck to him in his debut. I will be more than happy with his success.
Palabiyik is a big surprise for me.
ReplyDeleteHe only had 1 Europa League match last season and only EL 2nd round in this season's qualification. That's far from an indication for a CL debut.
Furthermore Leipzig-Zenit required an Elite referee IMO - no clear favourite in the match and a quite open group situation.
However, I don't doubt, that he could deliver a good performance on Wednesday.
Otherwise, quite good appointments for Madden, Kruzliak and again Taylor. Normal appointments for the rest, I think.
Karasev and Kralovec now the remaining Elite referees without CL appointment this season.
I think with all this Taylor appointment... By rosseti...
ReplyDeleteI think he his among uefa top elite already... Among cakir,skomina,bych and kuipers...
Euro 2020 for him sure...
Rossetti has made it clear to us that Taylor is far ahead of oliver in all aspect...
ReplyDeleteNo need of argument...
In Rosetti's mind maybe. My mind, Oliver is imo the better referee and even has more potential.
DeleteOliver has still a long time, let's remember Taylor 1978 born Oliver 1985. It was quite logical to focus before on Taylor to have him ready for this EURO 2020... Oliver will be "more ready" for 2022 WC, meanwhile he will gain further experience at EURO 2020 (but surely Taylor will be the first option for achieving more at that tournament). This is my opinion of course.
DeleteKassai also without CL matches.
ReplyDeleteAytekin is back: a miracle :-)
Královec and Kassai are after break - after injury.
DeleteI have some questions:
ReplyDelete-Where referees of EURO2020 will live during tournament?
- when will we know the appointments?
This year or at spring?
Unfortunately, this EURO will be last for referees like Brych, Skomina, Cakir, Kuipers, Kassai(if he goes) etc.
As for me, they are old school of UEFA REFEREEING
All of them were at EURO 2012.
Too difficult and too early to answer these questions :)
DeleteAs soon as I will manage to get some info, I will publish them on the blog. However, with Rosetti we can expect everything, maybe even no official announcements for EURO 2020 referees.
This would help in having more choices, however almost all the Elite referees, for a matter of number, should be there.
We will see.
Taylor ie very cleaver and very talent his dicisions made ukraine vs portugal was so good i think he will be eiro 2020
ReplyDeleteI am reading some observers names and at least 3 of them have never officiated a CL match.
ReplyDeleteHow can UEFA trust them in such a vital role?
Why would that be a criterium? I know observers who never did a match who analyze very well and give excellent advice. And I know referees who did the highest level, but are not even able to observe someone in the Dutch 2nd division. Observing isn't the same as refereeing. We should see it as a job, a qiality.
DeleteYou don't have to convince me, RikB. I always thought the observers should be appointed based on skills and knowledge of the LOTG.
DeleteThe thing is the Melo Pereira thinks differently. In Greece, the only requirement for someone to become a National League observer is to have 15 matches as ref or 30 as AR at that level. Even if that observer fails the LOTG test, he gets a 2nd, 3rd, 4th chance (unacceptable, IMO).
I understand. I suppose we misunderstood each other than.
DeleteStrange that they appointed Italian VAR in a group with Italian team (Valeri in Genk Liverpool)
ReplyDeleteThis has been already reported by our reader Philipp yesterday, with Zwayer VAR in a group with a German team (Bayer Levekusen).
DeleteTouch wood that this doesn't happen. But if Anthony Taylor gets injured we would have David Coote in charge of Inter Milan v Borussia Dortmund. Just let that sink in for a second.
ReplyDeleteIs that clear? Maybe Attwell or Tierney would take over instead?
DeleteIt is still unknown who should officiate in case of forfeit by main referee, whether fourth official or VAR. I try to know more.
DeleteI would say fourth official, because VAR must be always intended as something "external" from the officiating "pitch" crew, but I will try to know more about that and what UEFA officially wants in these cases.
BTW, do you remember any referee replacement during a match in Champions League?
DeleteI remember a 2007 EL Semi-final, in which referee Eric Braamhaar had to be replaced by Pieter Vink in the second half...
DeleteI remember a UCL match (Man. United was home team) in which AR1 was replaced by FO. The refereeing team was from Germany.
DeleteArticle 47.03 of Champions League regulation (available on uefa.com):
DeleteIf a referee, assistant referee or video assistant referee becomes unfit before or
during a match and is unable to officiate, he is replaced by another member of
the referee team as follows:
a. The referee is replaced by the fourth official.
b. An assistant referee is replaced by the fourth official or by the reserve assistant
referee if one has been appointed.
c. A video assistant referee is replaced by the assistant video assistant referee.
If necessary, the match will take place without video assistant referees and/or a
fourth official.
Thank you, it is indeed clear. Officials on the pitch and VARs work on two separate "fields".
DeleteGoodluck to Taylor and Hatengan today big match for them...
ReplyDeleteNo problem for Turpin because I think he his the best referee in form right now....
UCL final for him in my opinion...
No one deserve the UCL final
Jorge Sousa will be the referee of Olympiakos Vs AEK on Sunday
ReplyDeleteI think Hațegan restarted too quickly there (3') - offside by AR1 seemed wrong and potential handling incident.
ReplyDeleteTo be rewatched.
Exactly, did not look like offside and handball was pretty clear.
DeleteI think the player in offside position was the one after the shot on goal (obstructing the vision line of the GK, it seemed actually a punishable offside to me). Btw, the handling was more punishable than not IMO, but it was not a clear and obvious mistake so correct decision by VAR.
DeleteAnyone with that clip? I am curious when the referee whistled. As I remember there was a delayed flag signal, so handball situation was before play was stopped. In that case I think protocol says it needs to be reviewed.
DeleteNo goal for Ajax because offside by VAR Marciniak.
ReplyDeleteVAR disallowed 1-0 by Ajax, extremely tight offside position. I think impossible to see for AR1, so no big faults there.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I found strange that when the crew got the info it was offside from VAR, then AR1 raised his flag. Well, this is surely not required...
I'm impressed with Ovidiu Alin Hațegan in the 1H of the Ajax - Chelsea game.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely good soft skills (which we saw in TURALB match) and management of the players, quite relaxed impression and able to reach players on a range of authoritive-friendly levels. He chose a lenient approach in the first twenty minutes but when the game became more measured, he started to whistle some smaller contacts too.
Very tight disallowed goal after VAR intervention, incident in 3' to be rewatched.
Could you record the situation, even on a phone camera?
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ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, I don't have chance to watch Leipzig-Zenit game. How is Ali Palabiyik's performance till now?
ReplyDeleteExcellent !
Deletehttps://twitter.com/keeskwakman14/status/1187063677129842692?s=19
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/RenseBeerepoot/status/1187069705942634498?s=19
Looks as if VAR has analyzed the wrong moment for offside at the disallowed goal. Would be a huge mistake.
Wow, that is crazy!
DeleteI simply refuse to believe that is the case. It is a bit anti-intellectualist to suggest that the technology failed in the VOR - and that can hardly be proved by some people taking pictures of television footage.
DeleteIf this is true (I think the pictures show it), the season could be ended for Marciniak. And I would say because of a good reason.
Delete@Mikael W, I completely understand your point, hence I also said "Looks as if" and "Would be": I also desperately hope that the technology works flawless.
DeleteBut if you look at the pictures, it is possible to see that the player of Ajax is in a different position (see how and where his feet are) when the ball is played in comparison with the moment shown on screen with offside-lines.
It could be a technologival failure or a human error, because the correct frame is determined manually, as far as I know.
DeleteSomething was not right on this call for sure. Human eye could clearly see he was onside on the original freeze frame. Then magically VAR gives us a different zoomed frame with no context of ball position. This was the wrong call in my opinion and once again shows major flaw of VAR offside. Freeze frame is manually done and does not always show moment ball is touched by the passer. Until we install some sort of sensor in the ball to detect exact moment we will have inaccurate offside decisions. This is why such tight offsides should not be called imo. There needs to be some type of "umpires call" like system in cricket which allows for margin of error.
DeleteRealy ? It s so funny it s not true position 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂
DeleteI think VAR offside rule should be changed to something like naked eye. If VAR can clearly see offside with naked eye than give it. None of this millimeter line measurement stuff. These decisions are not within the spirit of the game. Football is a low scoring sport as is. They should encourage goals not take them away.
DeleteThanks Pete for your careful lexical choices.
DeleteI am not the person that defends the VAR project on the blog (that is the job of another man, and one he does rather zealously in anonymity :)) but such apparent truisms as the one presented by Bgymn are simply false.
"Human eye could clearly see he was onside on the original freeze frame" -> yes, but the human eye cannot accurately evaluate such scenes in 2D, hence the need for the advanced 3D technology that is used. It is rather popularistic to suggest sth like "we can all see a mistake".
Surely you can see that the incorrect frame was used for the decision. Look at attacking players legs. The VAR frame was taken after ball had been passed.
Delete@Bgymn
DeleteI completely agree with you. Naked eye for offside, otherwise no.
From what I know there is no technology when it comes to freeze image. It's human, no technology. It's one of the TV operators who "freeze" the image.
If we want "Naked eye", we could simply say, that VAR is not used for offside and ARs should only flag, if they are sure about the offside.
DeleteAnyway, only giving "clear offside" means it becomes a subjective decision by AR or VAR. There surely would come accusations of arbitrary decisions (or worse) and it would be difficult to have uniformity.
Even now is subjective. The freezing moment is not 100% correct, it's impossible to see the exact moment. 0,001 seconds there means few centimetres in the other part. VAR is very exact when it comes to centimetres, but you can't pretend that the freeze moment is perfect.
DeleteThis is the handball situation:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/oah7z
Thank you Dutch Ref. Wrong offside call, but at the same time I must say not 100% clearly punishable handball. However one remains with the doubt, would Hategan, in case, have assessed it as penalty? I just hope that there was communication about that between Marciniak and Hategan.
ReplyDeleteAnother possible penalty for handball in Ajax - Chelsea right now. Marciniak didn't call Hategan.
ReplyDeleteAbout the moment at '3: is it possible for the VAR to check offside (and possibly recommend an OFR) when there was no actual goal? Can VAR also check flagged offside if there was only a penalty appeal afterwards?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, a good performance from Hategan in AJX-CHL. 8,4 for me.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. He showed some very good skills in the match tonight.
DeleteElbow by AJX No. 10 could be called VC but I would support evaluating it as only reckless.
The most interesting incidents from Sidiropoulos game finally in a good quality:
ReplyDelete17' - Is YC enough? Possible SFP, excessive force.
https://streamable.com/7qe48
32' - Penalty appeal. I think correct to play on.
https://streamable.com/fn3qb
40' - In my opinion missed YC for reckless challenge by Cristiano Ronaldo
https://streamable.com/yocoq
68' - Possible RC for SFP, Sidiropoulos gave YC.
https://streamable.com/4104f
If Mendy's and Cuadrado's tackles don't deserve to be punished with red card according to UEFA, we can well end up our observations and look for another hobby, as it seems that everything could be relativised in nowadays' football.
Delete17': attempt to play the ball, foot against foot, for me no excessive force
Delete32': yes, he goes down too easily
40': I agree, missed YC
68': Uncontrolled two-leg tackling, very dangerous. Tackle was however targeted at the ball and contact point was low. RC would be better IMO, but not 100% clear.
And yes, I am well trained by DFB finding excuses for VAR not intervening in SFP situations. ;)
DeleteLEIPZIG - ZENIT ST. PETERSBURG
ReplyDelete08' - stonewall YC for SPA by holding
76' - missed mandatory YC for trailing leg tackle (play-on was the call)
84' - excellent onside call of AR2 Serkan Olguncan
Clear offside missed by AR1 in Salzburg. There were some deflections by defenders, now Turpin has been invited to rewatch, however AR1 should have detected it by himself. Not too difficult for a CL assistant referee.
ReplyDeleteA few minutes earlier, good assessment by Turpin in the other penalty area: correct decision to play on.
I would say that's a very difficult situation. Since it touched 2 defenders before arriving to the offside player. Turpin and the AR must then assess both these touches if they were deliberate or not. This is a very unexpected and difficult situation. Seeing if the player was in an offside position was extremely easy but that wasn't the issue here.
ReplyDeleteI0m never harsh with officials on the pitch, but in my opinion the two touches were clearly deflections, they happened in a very short time after the original shot by attacker, then teammate was in a very evident offside position. At least AR could have raised the flag, he didn't signal anything and he waited for VAR, that's what I don't like. To me, not that difficult situation, or at least a decision before technology is expected.
DeleteIs that so clear? The touch with the leg is only a deflection, therefore "(unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)" is not fulfilled.
ReplyDeleteThen we have "directly from the player’s own head or body", which however only counts "Except for the above offences".
And above offences include "the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level", "the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger", "moving the hand/arm towards the ball", which are all more or less fulfilled.
So strictly by the LotG, it is a penalty, I think.
However there might be instructions, that a (not deliberate) deflection by the same player is sufficient to not punish the handball.
ReplyDeleteAmazing call by AR 1 in Milano. Everyone in the stadium thought it was offside but he kept his flag down and 1:0 for Inter was confirmed by VAR
ReplyDeleteNo Good game today for Turpin and his AR
ReplyDeleteOne wrong offside call by AR1 but then two correct delayed offside call i believe.
DeleteCorrect penalty to Salzburg by Turpin 39'
DeleteOffside in the build-up, tight call but it was offside
ReplyDeleteMaybe I am understanding it wrong not being a native speaker, but doesn't "Except for the above offences" (written directly before your quote) mean, that this aspect only needs to be considered if none of the above apply?
ReplyDeleteIMO, only deliberate play by the same player always makes a handball legal.
Clear penalty to Salzburg whistled by Turpin.
ReplyDelete41' in INT-BVB, AR1 raises the flag immediatly for offside im case of an OGSO, Taylor also whistles immediatly, so no possibility for VAR to correct a possible mistake. VAR and English Refs are not the best combination...
ReplyDeleteBeside of that, faultless performance until now.
But the offside was very clear so I think it is okay to call the offside immediately in such cases
DeleteI would usually agree about english AR's raising the flag too quickly but in this case the offside was very clear.
DeleteI agree with Jonas but also PGMOL's ridiculous teachings cannot help ARs even that underwent UEFA training.
DeleteI can add correctly rejected penalty around 33'. Inter were getting irritated at Taylor in the last minutes, Englishman could have slowed the game down and issued a verbal warning in typical English style, but anyway I guess he saw there was a small amount of time remaining and decided against that.
Before that bit of the game it was very boring with nothing happening from refereeing perspective (amazing onside by AR1 for the 1-0).
I didn't saw a replay, but in most cases the offsides are tighter than they seem at first. And as we know, there had been also many clear mistakes in the past. I would handle all situations they same way, otherwise a mistake is always possible. But, of course, this isn't the best solution for the game.
DeleteFor very clear offsides, it is not required to delay flag.
DeleteDo you have a screenshot?
No I don't have a screenshot, I didn't even see a replay. Therefore I wasn't sure how clear the offside was.
DeleteBut if the guideline is like you described, the call is okay. Although I didn't like that, because in the past some ARs saw clear offsides where there wasn't even a close one ;) So there's still some room for a mistake.
I repeat. It was very clearly offside. There was no need to delay the flag.
DeleteSalzburg coach has been booked by Turpin. It is reported that after that he made an ironic applause against another decision a few later. This was missed by officials. Again something like that and he will be sent off.
ReplyDeleteSalzburg manager got a yellow from Turpin after clearly shouting: ''Fu*k off, fu*king bull*hit!''.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely too much allowed....
DeleteVery nice game in Salzburg. Apart from offside situation at the beginning, I would say a good performance by Turpin with a correct crucial decision (penalty).
ReplyDelete79' VAR check for a possible handball, Turpin delayed the restart of the game. Not punishable, arm close to body. Play on was final decision.
DeletePenalty to Internazionale Milano by Taylor 82'
ReplyDeleteCrystal clear no arguments there
DeleteAytekin sent off a player from Valencia with two cards in three minutes, I read that the first was for time wasting, then the second for a tactical foul.
ReplyDeleteBoth were fully correct in my opinion.
DeleteBoth decisions correct.
DeleteYep. Had no choice. Solid performance by Aytekin tonight, although the goal check after the 1-1 took a little long, which is nothing he can influence.
DeleteReason of the long check for 1-1?
DeleteI think, potential handball.
DeleteBut unfortunately, the broadcast did not show any replays during the check.
https://streamable.com/djwze
DeleteBefore final decision made by Aytekin (2.30 min of above video) Zeki Celik (Lille-Turkish RB) approaches him and they start speaking in Turkish. As far as I understand from their lips, Zeki Celik asks what he is checking for and he tells that it is for handball or not.
DeleteIt is a bit weird, till Zeki comes Aytekin told every other player to stay away and he is in conversation with VAR but when Celik came Aytekin started a conversation with him.
Hm, than it's maybe the language barrier, although I get the same understanding reading the German version of the LotG.
ReplyDeleteOne more aspect: We also have
"The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close."
but also
"not usually an offence if [...] directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close"
So at least in case of a touch by a different player, the "above offences" clearly are excepted from the general rule.
@languages: A double negative normally is also a positive in German. I just don't see the double negative here. It could also be a different interpretation of "Except for": I understood it as "With the exception of", i.e. "above offences" are excepted from the following. By your explication it rather means something like "Besides"/ "In addition to", I think.
Another excellent performance from Taylor and his team. He is impressing me every new game he whistles. Very correct PK, incredible onside prior 1st goal and also excellent onside prior second goal (big speed, not so easy to detect). They are buying their ticket for some big clashes in the spring, I am sure about that. England finally got one top range ref after Clattenburg. Oliver is there, too, and after two of them well there is one very big hole... I don't even know who to call as third English ref. And Premier league deserves much better refs than the rest are. Two is not enough. I was impressed yesterday watching Tottenham-Red Star how fast are Tottenhem players, almost twice faster. Especially Son - just look his speed when he scored 3rd goal. The same goes for Sterling - his 4th goal against Atalanta... Enormous speed and ball control. It is not easy for the refs to deal with top quality and fast players in PL, but hey have to work hard to improve themselves. PL can not rely on very old refs such are Atkinson (48), Marriner (48), Friend (48), Mason (48), Moss (49) and Mike Dean (51!!!). Dean was making huge errors at his prime, and now with 51 what to expect from him?! The same goes for the rest. They are simply too old and too slow. I can't believe that English ref organization can't produce some new names. Just look Italy, Germany, as well as Spain.
ReplyDeleteThird referee in the premier league is chris kavanagh fourth is graig pawson are you agree with my opinion
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ReplyDeleteI’m with Philipp here, assuming that with deliberate play he means a deliberate play with the own foot/head leading to the ball touching the own hand/arm (instead of a deliberate handball which of course is punishable).
I for me am also convinced that “except for the above offences” refers to the criteria which describe punishable handballs (moving hand to ball; making body unnaturally bigger; arm/hand above shoulder level).
As I don’t really consider the position of the arm as a natural position I tend towards a punishable handball to be honest.
Apart from that below the link to the the requested YC for Tadic, and a link to a video of the handball incident (80’) mentioned by Chefren (and also this handball I consider punishable).
YC Tadic:
https://streamable.com/99wp3
Handball incident:
https://streamable.com/en25k
A few of the big decisions from the games today:
ReplyDeleteTurpin penalty -
https://streamable.com/cb4cs
Taylor penalty -
https://streamable.com/e0xi4
Diakhaby red card -
https://streamable.com/0ph9q
https://streamable.com/qyvr3
For those with Facebook, this seems to be an issue that rose out of the AJAX v Chelsea game. UEFA might need to publish an explanation.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/goal/videos/663265040875490/?v=663265040875490
The upper body still could be offside in the first frame.
DeleteHowever I agree, that we need an explication, why the wrong lines were shown.
I was told that:
ReplyDeletedeliberate play with the own foot/head leading to the ball touching the own hand/arm ---> always play-on
deflection from the own part of body other to hand leading to the ball touching the unnaturally positioned own hand/arm when fighting for the ball or being pressed by an opponent ---> in the referee's discretion but rather play-on (unless the hand is above head)
deflection from the own part of body other to hand leading to the ball touching the unnaturally positioned own hand/arm when not fighting for the ball or when blocking a pass or shot ---> always FK/PK
If the whistle wasn't blown before the potential penalty incident, YES, VAR can review it. If it was blown before, VAR can not intervene.
ReplyDeleteI like that interpretation: It is in line with the LotG wording, and seems a sensible/fair approach.
ReplyDeleteIt just needs to be communicated to everyone...
So in Amsterdam, it would be the last case and therefore penalty, right?
Yes, penalty should be given.
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