Wednesday, 20 October 2021

Champions League 2021/22 - Referee Appointments - Matchday 3 (II)

Second set of referee appointments for 2021-22 UEFA Champions League group stage Matchday 3, Wednesday's games.

20 October 2021

18:45 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
FC Barcelona (ESP) - FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) | Group E
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA) 
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA) 
Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Gijs de Jong (NED)

18:45 CET - Salzburg (Stadion Salzburg)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - VfL Wolfsburg (GER) | Group G
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Fabiano Preti (ITA) 
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA) 
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Boško Jovanetić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Oskam (NED)

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
SL Benfica (POR) - FC Bayern München (GER) | Group E
Referee: Ovidiu Hategan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Radu Ghinguleac (ROU) 
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Marcel Birsan (ROU) 
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT) 
UEFA Delegate: Metin Kazancıoğlu (TUR)

21:00 CET - Bern (Stadion Wankdorf)
BSC Young Boys (SUI) - Villarreal CF (ESP) | Group F
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavirlin (RUS) 
Fourth Official: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR) 
Video Assistant Referee: Vitaliy Meshkov (RUS)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Loukas Siotropos (GRE)

21:00 CET - Manchester (Old Trafford)
Manchester United (ENG) - Atalanta BC (ITA) | Group F
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Pawel Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musial (POL) 
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Jørn West Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: José Guilherme Aguiar (POR)

21:00 CET - Villeneuve d'Ascq (Stade Pierre Mauroy)
LOSC Lille (FRA) - Sevilla FC (ESP) | Group G
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG) 
Fourth Official: David Coote (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Raymond Ellingham (WAL) 
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)

21:00 CET - St. Petersburg (St. Petersburg Stadium)
Football Club Zenit (RUS) - Juventus (ITA)| Group H
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Alain Bieri (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER) 
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Bozhinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Charles Schaack (LUX)

21:00 CET - London (Stamford Bridge) 
Chelsea FC (ENG) - Malmö FF (SWE) | Group H
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA) 
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA) 
Fourth Official: Thomas Leonard (FRA) 
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Tulinger (CZE) 
UEFA Delegate: Angelo Chetcuti (MLT)
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  1. Chefren18 October 2021 at 10:30

    I start with Turpin in Barcelona, easy to understand that in this case committee made the appointment based on recent performances by the Spanish team and this game can be absolutely open to all results, so we have a big name. Good appointment for his countryman in London for Chelsea - Malmoe as well. Here, it is particular to have Millot as AVAR and Hernández Hernández as VAR.
    Marciniak absolutely expected in Manchester, he is in a very good form and he gets a great game, and, as expected a Category 1 in Russia for Zenit - Juventus. It is definitely easy to understand how committee assess the games with Italian teams and the relative appointments!
    The rest is normal, two big names, Oliver and Orsato, in a fully open group!

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    1. Anonymous18 October 2021 at 10:46

      You predicted the appointments of Italian teams very well! :)

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  2. Dominik M.18 October 2021 at 11:20

    I feel like this time all appointments are rather expected/normal. No big surprises.
    I'm glad to see Letexier again, I really liked him in YB-MUN. Am I missing something or is there any particular reason to have Hernández Hernández as VAR and Millot only as AVAR?

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    1. Philipp S18 October 2021 at 14:24

      IMO, Turpin and Orsato and to a lesser extent also Karasev and Oliver are surprising appointments, because in all games also a less prominent name seemed possible.
      I mean, group G is quite open, but we are not yet on the last matchdays and those are rather small teams involved.
      But apparently UEFA wanted to play it safe after some controversies in the last matchday, e.g. also with the penalty against Wolfsburg.

      However it means, that 10 EURO referees (+ the CA referee and Marciniak) have already been used on MD3, so only 6 EURO referees remain (assuming Grinfeld still out) for MD4 under normal circumstances.

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    2. Belgian+UEFArefobserver18 October 2021 at 16:19

      Dear Philipp :as you know, there are no "normal circumstances" anymore since Rosetti. So, a lot of the same referees will be used again on MD4 in my opinion. I wonder by the way if Cakir isn't near the exit : he gets 45 y. in November and he isn't part of the UEFA pre WC 2022 Quatar group. Is Cakir stopping due to age restraints (considering that, theoretically, he could move on cfr Kuipers who left the scene at 48) or because he has to by UEFA ?

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  3. matei1418 October 2021 at 11:28

    IMO the strongest games are for Hațegan, Marciniak and Schärer.

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  4. adrienref18 October 2021 at 11:52

    Bastien could definitely be worried now

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    1. Matio18 October 2021 at 11:54

      Sorry to be Honest He shouldnt be in Elite :)

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    2. Chefren18 October 2021 at 21:15

      I don't think that Letexier appointment strictly implies the fact that Bastien must be worried. For a country like France, three referees in Champions League (2 Elite + 1 Category 1) is the minimum we can expect. Buquet is surely now the man of out focus mostly to age, but the rest must be still decided.
      I'm curious about the next assignment for Bastien, though, given that he can appear in CL on MD4, I think he will get rather Europa League. We will see.

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    3. adrienref19 October 2021 at 08:13

      All right thanks for your answer Chefren !
      About Buquet, agreed

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  5. Anonymous18 October 2021 at 12:23

    Are there any important observers allocated this round?

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  6. pita falta18 October 2021 at 12:42

    Raymond Ellingham / Jørn West Larsen

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  7. PolandRef18 October 2021 at 13:27

    OT
    Marciniak will be a ref at the Arab Cup 2021 in Qatar (30 November - 18 December)

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  8. Chiagozie18 October 2021 at 14:07

    Michael Oliver officiated his 300th Premier League matches this weekend at the age of 36. He is on course to break the record of most matches officiated by an English Referee. To put into context how incredible his numbers are, Danielle Orsato officiated his 248th Seria A match also this weekend….

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    1. Anonymous18 October 2021 at 14:20

      Who is the PL referee with more match refereed?

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    2. Philipp S18 October 2021 at 14:28

      Mike Dean has 541 matches and still adding on, so Oliver will need at least 8 years to reach that.
      Also Atkinson, Marriner, Poll an Dowd have more than 300 matches.

      You can't really compare Premier League with other leagues, because elsewhere the referees mostly are appointed only every second matchday, while PL referees can collect around 30 games per season.
      So maybe Dean even has the world record of most top division matches? Does anyone know?

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    3. Chiagozie18 October 2021 at 14:39

      You are right but, none of them reached the 300 Milestone at that young age, that’s why he is touted to surpass them, if everything goes to plan because of course anything can happen, and I realized that Oliver has officiated only 5 championship matches… that is really shocking 😂😂. They are only a hand few of FIFA referees in England who do not officiate the second division matches.

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    4. Philipp S18 October 2021 at 14:54

      Yes, I didn't want to disagree, but answer refplus' question.

      worldfootball.net has 54 Championsship matches (since 2008) for Oliver though - in the two seasons before his PL promotion, he regularly officiated there, as one would expect.

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  9. RikB18 October 2021 at 16:50

    Roelof Luinge did 544 highest league matches in Holland. That is more than Dean.

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  10. Euro Soccer Ref20 October 2021 at 17:46

    HIGHLIGHTS

    Porto - Milan (Felix Brych)
    https://send.cm/d/5Ren

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  11. greek ref20 October 2021 at 18:42

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    Emmanouil Skoulas (UEFA, 3rd) announced his retirement from refereeing today. He wrote a letter blaming mostly Clattenburg and said that the whole situation in Greece is the basic reason for his decision.

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    1. Quilava20 October 2021 at 19:49

      So today's Maccabi Haifa-Zalgiris from UYL was his last match? Wow.

      All my support to Greek referees!

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    2. Chefren20 October 2021 at 20:39

      Really sad for this choice. If a FIFA referee takes this decision, there should be very strong motivations behind, for sure. Particular that he made this announcement in the day of a UEFA duty.

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    3. AAR120 October 2021 at 23:24

      All in Greece know there is no future for refereeing with Klattenberg in HFF. CRC is kontrolling by clubs.

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  12. Euro Soccer Ref20 October 2021 at 20:38

    No problems for Turpin in BARDKV. Extremely boring game, even worse than many pre-season friendlies.

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    1. matei1420 October 2021 at 21:08

      Agree. Easy game for Turpin, who showed a good concentration during the whole game though. Any first category could have handled this game.

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  13. Matio20 October 2021 at 21:18

    Good onside by Listkiewicz for Atalanta goal :)

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  14. Chefren20 October 2021 at 21:19

    Clear penalty to Chelsea whistled by Letexier, reckless and dangerous challenge.

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    1. Philipp S20 October 2021 at 21:21

      I would say, there are arguments for no foul (ball was played) and for SFP (quite dangerous action), but penalty+YC probably is the best decision.

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    2. Chefren20 October 2021 at 21:29

      I fully agree, it is indeed a very particular situation, I realized about the foul only after second replay, but it must be definitely punished.

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    3. David21 October 2021 at 11:53

      Chefren, do you think the PK after OFR (92' PSG Leipzig) was 100% correct? Does it not matter in this instance that the ball is touched, because the ball is not played?

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  15. Upstylon20 October 2021 at 21:20

    Correct PK and YC for DOGSO to Chelsea by Letexier.

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  16. Davidcrammond20 October 2021 at 21:20

    Does anyone know for English teams do they use the VAR hub at Stockley Park (EPL) or do they use the Nyon base.

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    1. Chefren20 October 2021 at 21:27

      Do you mean for CL games? UEFA games are covered either from Nyon or VAR at stadium, UEFA doesn't use national VAR hubs.

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    2. Philipp S20 October 2021 at 21:31

      And they should be in Nyon as some of the appointed VARs had also matches yesterday.

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    3. Davidcrammond20 October 2021 at 21:34

      I did wonder. I just thought it might have been easier to use the set up in SP but as phillipp said some had matches yesterday.

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  17. Chefren20 October 2021 at 21:43

    Bayern scored by arm, should be disallowed afer VAR intervvention.

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    1. Chefren20 October 2021 at 21:44

      Still a bit of confusion when Hategan acts with VAR, it is evident that he isn't too much used with it. After the communication he made at first a wrong signal of goal allowed, indicating the midfield for a new kick off.

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    2. matei1420 October 2021 at 21:46

      As I know, the 'new' rule says that a goal can't be scored with arm, of any kind. So I'd say correct VAR decision.

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    3. matei1420 October 2021 at 23:01

      @Chefren In fact, he showed the place of the free kick not the centre of the pitch. He went there and then raise the hand. The same for second disallowed goal. He moved in the box than raised the hand. If someone need a video I can paste it.

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  18. Matio20 October 2021 at 21:51

    Solid First half by Marciniak

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    1. usareferee20 October 2021 at 21:55

      What did you think of possible push by #28 for Atalanta on #39 for Manchester United on the second goal (corner kick)?

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  19. David20 October 2021 at 21:51

    Very calm game for Schärer in St. Petersburg. No penalty incidents or big decisions to make.

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  20. Refsav20 October 2021 at 22:10

    Marciniak having an excellent game so far, I believe he has got every decision right so far.

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  21. referee observer20 October 2021 at 22:14

    Good YC decision to N66 ATA by Marciniak now. SPA and not DOGSO.

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  22. Matio20 October 2021 at 22:15

    What happend ? 2 YCs in 1 minutes

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  23. matei1420 October 2021 at 22:15

    I don`t understand Hategan`s movement after VAR`s interventions. Now why he walked into the box to raise hand for offside? It`s unusual in comparation to other referees...

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  24. Upstylon20 October 2021 at 22:21

    Another penalty to Chelsea, correct decision.
    Maybe a missed YC to MAL2 though.
    Also a possible foul in APP, but no replays were shown.

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    1. Nathan M.20 October 2021 at 22:23

      Apparently a YC was given.

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    2. Unknown20 October 2021 at 22:23

      Penalty was obviously the correct decision, but wasn’t this a DOGSO without an attempt to play the ball? I think so to be honest.

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    3. Upstylon20 October 2021 at 22:34

      Well if there was a YC, my mistake, I simply missed it live.
      RC for DOGSO would've been deemed as correct as well.
      The more I watch the replays, the more I think it was actually a RC.

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    4. Philipp S20 October 2021 at 22:56

      I also think, this a quite clear DOGSO.
      And it was charging, not tripping, so it should result in a RC.

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    5. Chefren21 October 2021 at 07:33

      In my opinion clear RC for DOGSO, not genuine attempt to play ball. VAR should have intervened, I think supporting YC was a mistake.

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  25. Refsav20 October 2021 at 22:35

    Anyone think Marciniak is a contender for the CL final? He is incredibly experienced even though his form has been questionable at times.

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    1. Matio20 October 2021 at 22:40

      I think if he will be in This form it s big chance for EL or CL final

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    2. jleekens20 October 2021 at 22:40

      For me, Taylor will get a final if an English team isn’t present. If an English team is present in the CL final, it should go to either Makkelie or Turpin and Taylor will do the EL. If an English team is also in the EL final, Marciniak could be the favorite for that one, but I think the 3 I mentioned are in front of him for the CL final.

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    3. Chefren20 October 2021 at 22:42

      After Super Cup and Nations League final, it is difficult to think that Taylor could get another final in a so short time, at least for this season, it would be too much in a too short time, I believe that committee will make different choices, we never saw a referee during the same season with 2 finals.

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    4. jleekens20 October 2021 at 22:57

      In that case Marciniak is definitely a contender for the EL final for me, but do you really think the committee would let an opportunity without English teams go, especially in the CL?

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    5. Chefren20 October 2021 at 23:01

      Yes I think so, there were similar situations with Mateu Lahoz, he had the chance to get CL final at least twice in past, it was unexpected that all Spanish teams had been eliminated, but he didn't get the game. So, now it is possible the same with Taylor, but mostly due to NL assignment in my opinion.
      I agree that Marciniak is on a good path for being EL final candidate.
      Let's also remember that we will have a third final this season, ECL final.

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    6. jleekens21 October 2021 at 01:30

      ECL Final is very difficult to predict right now. Does UEFA go with a referee who is just behind EL final referees (e.g. Hategan), talented referees (e.g. Siebert), referees who have no realistic chances on a more prestigious final (e.g. Sidiropoulos)? Maybe a female referee (Frappart) or even a ‘last honor’ (Cakir)? Probably quarter final assignments and onwards will tell us more about that, I would guess.

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  26. supporter20 October 2021 at 22:58

    Marciniak is back to the business!!!

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    1. Nole20 October 2021 at 23:15

      He was great tonight. Lot of YCs in 2nd half (3 YCs for Atalanta from 55’ till 57’), all fully correct.

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  27. Referee.Tips21 October 2021 at 00:51

    Fantastic Marciniak tonight. Calm night for Turpin.

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  28. Anonymous21 October 2021 at 08:07

    I watched Barca-Kyiv and I must say, it was a very very boring game. The game never started to 'flow' and in my opinion also the ref (Turpin) contributed to that by applying a very low line of physical play. He whistled a lot, also for too small things in my taste. I noticed quite some dives from Kyiv players. The game was dead over and over again, which dissapointed me a little bit.

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    1. Hans21 October 2021 at 10:20

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    2. Hans21 October 2021 at 10:38

      I watched Turpin a couple of times in Europe and i recognized his very low line of physical play. It can be very frustating indeed

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  29. Dmitry21 October 2021 at 09:41

    How was Karasev yesterday?

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  30. Anonymous21 October 2021 at 11:32

    José María Sánchez Martínez will handle the “El Clásico” between Barcelona and Real Madrid, on saturday at 16:15.
    Cabañero Martínez and Gallego García will be his ARs whilst at the VAR, two formers like González González and Iglesias Villanueva.

    Another confirm for the referee from Murcia.

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  31. Mikael W21 October 2021 at 12:27

    Video clips of the two penalties awarded by François Letexier in the Chelsea vs. Malmö game:

    18' - https://streamable.com/whmxqn
    55' - https://streamable.com/iliuzq

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    1. Flip21 October 2021 at 14:18

      18' Clearly correct IMO, dangerous tackle from behind, it shouldn't matter that the ball is slightly touched; I rather see some aspects of SFP fullfilled here with the attacker's leg bending, but Letexier's decision is surely the expected here.
      55' Penalty again correct for me, clumsy push in the back - but indeed a RC is necessary here IMO, the action is in no way targeted at the ball. Mistake especially by Hernandez Hernandez here I think.

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    2. David21 October 2021 at 14:18

      I agree with the consensus here, first one PK YC is the best decision,

      second one VAR should have recomended an OFR for DOGSO.

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