Friday 16 June 2023

2023/24 European Qualifiers - Referee Appointments MD3 (16 June 2023)

EURO 2024 qualifiers are back with MD3, referee appointments for the set of games to be played on 16 June 2023.



18:00 CET - Helsinki (Helsinki Olympic Stadium)
FINLAND - SLOVENIA | Group H
Referee: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Iñigo Prieto (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Iván Masso Granado (ESP)
Fourth Official: Miguel Ángel Ortiz Arias (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo De Burgos (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: César Soto (ESP) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Stavros Tritsonis (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Vignir Már Þormóðsson (ISL)

20:45 CET - Athens (OPAP Arena)
GREECE - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND | Group B
Referee: Harald Lechner (AUT) 
Assistant Referee 1: Maximilian Kolbitsch (AUT)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Staudinger (AUT)
Fourth Official: Markus Hamater (AUT)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christian-Petru Ciochirca (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Cyril Zimmermann (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Velid Imamović (BIH)

20:45 CET - Faro-Loulé (Estádio Algarve)
GIBRALTAR - FRANCE | Group B
Referee: Yevhenii Aranovskiy (UKR)
Assistant Referee 1: Semen Shlonchak (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Viktor Matyash (UKR)
Fourth Official: Vitaliy Romanov (UKR)
Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pawel Pskit (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Shmuel Shteif (ISR) 
UEFA Delegate: Nikola Kostov (MKD)

20:45 CET - Ta' Qali (National Stadium)
MALTA - ENGLAND | Group C
Referee: Igor Pajac (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Goran Pataki (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Ivan Mihalj (CRO) 
Fourth Official: Patrik Kolarić (CRO)
Video Assistant Referee: Duje Strukan (CRO)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fran Jović (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Jaroslav Dudl (CZE) 

20:45 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
NORTH MACEDONIA - UKRAINE | Group C
Referee: Lukas Fähndrich (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Jonas Erni (SUI)
Fourth Official: Alessandro Dudic (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Lionel Tschudi (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Dejan Filipović (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Patrick Wattebled (FRA)

20:45 CET - Cardiff (Cardiff City Stadium)
WALES - ARMENIA | Group D
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Radoslav Gidzhenov (BUL)
Video Assistant Referee: Dragomir Draganov (BUL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ivaylo Stoyanov (BUL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Neale Barry (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Oleg Harlamov (EST)

20:45 CET - Riga (Skonto Stadions)
LATVIA - TURKEY | Group D
Referee: Tamás Bognár (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor (HUN)
Fourth Official: Gergo Bogár (HUN)
Video Assistant Referee: Luca Pairetto (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Katalin Kulcsár (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Petrov (UKR)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Oskam (NED) 

20:45 CET - Copenhagen (Parken) 
DENMARK - NORTHERN IRELAND | Group H
Referee: Daniel Stefanski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Dawid Golis (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Michal Obukowicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Damian Sylwestrzak (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Piotr Lasyk (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mika Peltola (FIN) 
UEFA Delegate: Mark Bos (NED) 

20:45 CET - Parma (Stadio Ennio Tardini)
SAN MARINO - KAZAKHSTAN | Group H
Referee: Anastasios Papapetrou (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Tryfon Petropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Iordanis Aptosoglou (GRE)
Fourth Official: Andreas Gamaris (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee:  Aggelos Evangelou (GRE)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Evangelos Manouchos (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Augustus Constantin (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Michał Listkiewicz (POL)

20:45 CET - Andorra La Vella (Estadi Nacional)
ANDORRA - SWITZERLAND | Group I
Referee: Balázs Berke (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Szert (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Balázs Szalai (HUN)
Fourth Official: Mihály Káprály (HUN)
Video Assistant Referee: Ivan Bebek (CRO)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dario Bel (CRO) 
UEFA Referee Observer: John Ward (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Renata Tomasova (SVK)

20:45 CET - Budapest (Szusza Ferenc Stadion)
BELARUS - ISRAEL | Group I
Referee: Jarred Gavan Gillett (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Neil Davies (ENG)
Fourth Official: Michael Salisbury (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Darren England (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Robert Jones (ENG) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA) 
UEFA Delegate: Jan Kořínek (CZE)

20:45 CET - Pristina (Stadiumi Fadil Vokrri)
KOSOVO - ROMANIA | Group I
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED) 
Fourth Official: Sander Van Der Eijk (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Edwin Van De Graaf (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vlado Svilokos (CRO)
UEFA Delegate:  Jean Paul Mievis (BEL)
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102 comments:

  1. Anonymous13 June 2023 at 10:19

    Farewell match for Yevheni Aranovskiy?

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  2. EnglandREF13 June 2023 at 10:33

    Good game for Jarred Gillett. Poor match for Danny Makkelie

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    1. Elliot13 June 2023 at 17:51

      I would not necessarily describe as a poor game for Makkelie, it's the type of game that the big elites often get in these gets in the qualifiers. Hot atmosphere, teams that can get extremely fed up when stufff goes against team, tough game to whistle

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    2. Arbiter16 June 2023 at 20:55

      Gillett's game isn't a "good" game. It's being played at an empty neutral venue. Sure, Israel is a decent enough national team. But nothing special. On the other hand, Belarus is quite poor and more so having to play away from home without fans.

      Games in the Balkans are tough not necessarily because of the teams involved but because of the atmosphere. But other than that, it's nothing special. Kosovo as team is still in development and this Romania isn't the Romania of old. It's an assignment that any run of the mill "elite" should be able to handle.

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  3. Philipp S13 June 2023 at 10:41

    Good to see that an Ukrainian referee could be appointed again.
    Nice appointments for some Second group referees.
    Gillett with a game in his "first" FIFA season, which is unusual, but obviously he is a special case with his previous experience from Australia.
    Stefanski with a quite important match in that group, where maybe an Elite referee could have been expected.
    Makkelie as only Elite referee in a less sonorous, but important and possibly quite challenging game.

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  4. Mikael W13 June 2023 at 10:44

    Rocchi will go to Scotland on a fact-finding mission about Gillett (I suspect he will be less impressed that my compatriots about the Aussie but let's see) and Swiss law-enforcer Lukas Fähndrich wins a really nice appmnt, where he will surely have to act as a law-enforcer, after his nice 'debutisation' for Schärer in March's SCOESP. Makkelie can go 'back to basics' in his match; the last time he refereed Kosovo (playoff vs. MKD), the Dutchman was superb.

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    1. Chefren13 June 2023 at 10:57

      Sorry my mistake, Rocchi game is in Hungary, neutral venue.

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    2. Mikael W13 June 2023 at 11:19

      Gillett's choice becomes even (slightly) more relevant then, compared to just sending someone 'north of the border' from England to Scotland.

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    3. EnglandREF13 June 2023 at 11:27

      I don't rate Gillett particularly highly either

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  5. Anonymous13 June 2023 at 14:04

    Italian top referees Daniele Minelli and Niccolò Baroni have been caught writing anonymous messages on Italian referee forum arbitri.com in praise of themselves and attacking their colleagues.

    You may know that they were involved in a former scandal in Italy. They were relegated together but were reintegrated after it was proven that the votes of the referees were manipulated to their disfavor. Then they denounced the leadership to the authorities.

    Certainly they experienced injustices but this is very infortunate.

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    1. Arbiter16 June 2023 at 20:58

      Something similar cost a very experienced and highly rated NBA an opportunity to do games in the Finals this year.

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    2. Andrasch Neunert18 June 2023 at 00:56

      They should be out for at least 1 year. Who is ready to manipulate the perception of his own matches will be open for much more manipulation in future. Thats why I personally would favour them to start again from basic or end the career.

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  6. Davidcrammond13 June 2023 at 16:12

    Jarred Gillets return to international football becoming potentially the first ref to referee games for 2 confederations

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  7. Elliot13 June 2023 at 17:43

    Friendly appointment:
    Fri 17 Jun 19:00 CEST Sweden-New Zealand Craig Pawson - Lee Betts, Stuart Burt - Thomas Bramall (all ENG)

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  8. Elliot13 June 2023 at 17:56

    Great appointment for Fähndrich, seems UEFA liked his "cameo" in SCOESP, can be a solid cat 1 if he gets managed in the right way by the committee

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  9. Anonymous13 June 2023 at 18:36

    San Marino - Kazakhstan

    VAR Evangelou
    AVAR Manouchos

    Both GRE

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  10. Zwayerbrazil13 June 2023 at 22:57

    BRASIL 🇧🇷x🇬🇳 GUINÉ
    Árbitro: Andris Treimanis 🇱🇻
    A1: Haralds Gudermanis 🇱🇻
    A2: Aleksejs Spasennikovs 🇱🇻

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  11. Anonymous14 June 2023 at 09:51

    Good to see Jalled Gillet back 🔥

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  12. Anonymous14 June 2023 at 10:07

    Clay Ruperti and Edwin van de Graaf are VAR with Makkelie. I am curious if that will be the future. Ruperti is a respected VAR in NL and did Ajax -PSV with Makkelie.

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    1. Chefren14 June 2023 at 10:39

      Makkelie has been with van Boekel for a quite long time, before him I remember Blom. Now it should be the first time with Ruperti.
      Also, about VARs, I still don't understand why for some countries (see Bulgaria) they are accepted by UEFA, while for others (Hungary, Austria) no... that's maybe an analysis of the level reached by VAR development in the respective countries, or maybe there are strict rules like a certain time since the introduction.... really don't know and I'm very curious about this aspect.

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    2. Anonymous14 June 2023 at 11:03

      Dutch referees are not allowed to choose their VAR.

      Van Boekel really messed up this season, but he has a friend in the Refcom and they kept backing him. If I were Makkelie, I’d prefer a different VAR. Trust is very important if you work in teams.

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    3. Anonymous14 June 2023 at 11:07

      Makkelie did the EL final in 2020 with Kamphuis, originally paired with Nijhuis. Nijhuis was later replaced by Blom, who became main VAR in 2021. Than at EURO 2020, Blom was VAR, but after the opener game Italy - Turkey, where he missed a handball, Van Boekel took over for Makkelie.
      Than Blom also got injured so after a few months, rules dictated that Blom was not allowed to be VAR anymore.
      I suspect Van Boekel won't go on fir years in the future. In the Netherlands, Ruperti worked with Makkelie before and he has been AVAR in quite some international games already.

      But Makkelie had quite a few different VARs.

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    4. Anonymous14 June 2023 at 12:04

      Higler is a more experienced VMO at UCL level.

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    5. Elliot14 June 2023 at 14:26

      As a comment on Chefren's answer about nationalities of VARs, as far as I'm concerned not a single time has a Dane been as VAR, despite having used the system since 2020/21

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    6. Anonymous14 June 2023 at 14:39

      @ Elliot: tbf even more strange that Slovenian VMO’s are trusted and Danish VMO’s are not.

      To compare: Maribor #148 vs Copenhagen #44.
      FIFA ranking: Denmark #19, Slovenia #59.

      And there plenty other examples. The VMO’s from smaller football nations are only trusted if there is enough political support, it seems. Call it double standards or favoritism. Whatever. I don’t see any ‘logic’ at all.

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    7. Arbiter16 June 2023 at 21:01

      Makkelie chews up and spits out partners in his referee team. His team is like a revolving door in which only he seems to be the constant.

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  13. Alex14 June 2023 at 13:23

    BLR clubs are in UEFA tournaments this year. Anybody heard any news about elite Kulbakou?

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  14. Anonymous14 June 2023 at 16:27

    San is VAR again only few days after the WC U20 final controversy!

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  15. Mikael W16 June 2023 at 16:20

    OT: Some clips from the 2005 and 2006 Champions League finals, which I enjoyed rewatching over the last couple of days.

    --> Liverpool vs. AC Milan (2005, Mejuto González)
    https://streamin.one/v/bc07e14d
    https://streamin.one/v/48b994df
    https://streamin.one/v/694dcbb3
    https://streamin.one/v/dcd79dc6
    https://streamin.one/v/d7dcde29

    --> Barcelona vs. Arsenal (2006, Terje Hauge)
    https://streamin.one/v/cac50bb3
    https://streamin.one/v/f4c877be
    https://streamin.one/v/ad44dac1
    https://streamin.one/v/d89f3e53

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    1. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 16:55

      The penalty and red card decision in Barcelona vs Arsenal should have ended the referees career. How can it be DOGSO when someone scores?

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    2. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 17:00

      Goal is just offside as well. Paw performance

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    3. M16 June 2023 at 18:14

      And what about Dudek's "staying on the line'?

      Potential game decider if you ask me.
      If we had today's rules Lpool does not win 05 CL.

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    4. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 00:36

      Both keepers where off the line

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  16. matei1416 June 2023 at 19:32

    https://twitter.com/kosovarfootball/status/1669726329187516419/photo/1

    The pitch is horror in Pristina due to heavy rainfall in the last days. UEFA doesn't really want to postpone the game, a final decision will be made soon.

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    1. matei1416 June 2023 at 20:48

      https://streamin.one/v/080762ef

      Footage with Makkelie checking the pitch quality. The game will be played.

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    2. Arbiter16 June 2023 at 21:06

      If UEFA doesn't abandon a match when a players head is busted open by a projectile thrown from the stands in one if its Cup Finals. It most definitely will not suspend/cancel/re-schedule this match.

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  17. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 20:56

    It seems wrong YC to Ristovski by Faehndrich, MKD players furious with him already.

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    1. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 20:57

      Ristovski hit the ball first so YC was very harsh.

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  18. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 21:16

    Clear handball missed by Faehndrich, don’t you think many of you overrated him?

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    1. Elliot16 June 2023 at 21:48

      Hardly a big mistake by Fähndrich imo, it's never easy to see such things in crowded penalty areas

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  19. Ugur B16 June 2023 at 21:31

    Wrong VAR interaction and disallowed goal against Turkey 40th min. Bognar made a wrong decision imo.

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    1. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 21:42

      IMO supportable to give that as a foul - but not sure, whether that was really a clear and obvious situation.

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    2. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 21:50

      Remember who is in charge in the VAR room!

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    3. Ugur B16 June 2023 at 22:26

      Is Pairetto that much involved with the situations?

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    4. Chefren16 June 2023 at 22:28

      Pairetto made several mistakes even as VAR in serie A, calling referees for phantom fouls, but AIA continues to appoint him. I'm really speechless.

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    5. Chefren16 June 2023 at 22:29

      (and I agree, this was a foul expected to be whistled on the pitch, but definitely NO VAR stuff...) in doubt, he always prefers to call!

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    6. Ugur B16 June 2023 at 22:29

      @Phillipp S Turkish player plays with the ball and this foot has to land somewhere. If the Latvian defender's foot remains there, how can this be a foul? Meanwhile, if this happen's at penalty area, the defender kicks the ball first, then hits the opponents foot will this be a penalty?

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    7. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 22:39

      If he can only play the ball combined with stamping on the opponent's foot this can be assesses as a careless (or reckless foul), even if the ball is played first. Normally you don't give penalties for that, but such situations are whistled in midfield not too rarely IMO. Therefore a grey area situation for me.

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    8. Ugur B16 June 2023 at 22:48

      This has to be something adjusted... Foul situations has to be handled everwhere the same. Handball changes being an attacker or defender but foul is foul anywhere on the pitch...

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    9. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 01:49

      Does the turkish player play the ball? If yes, what did he do wrong? no foul for me…

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  20. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 21:38

    Too many excessive use of whistle from Faehndrich, I doubt that Scandinavian Referee and the others who rated Faenhdrich really high are wrong, but this is really not impressive performance from him in 1st half.

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    1. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 21:40

      It’s likely poor performance from him, especially not showing YC to Mudryk, and so on hopefully someone will assest him in detail

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  21. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 21:47

    Handball penalty for Greece in 11' after OFR.
    Goal for Ireland allowed by VAR after offside call by the AR (27').
    Both correct decisions IMO.

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  22. Scandinavian Referee16 June 2023 at 21:49

    @Anonymos you don't need to post 5 times about Lukas Fähndrich first half performance. Have in mind that there is 12 games tonight so we can not spam this forum. And remember this is not fan Blogspot, seems like you did not liked any action going against North Macedonia?

    I will try to watch this game later and then give comment on yellow card in minute 8, missed penalty call(as I assume from your text that VAR took it) and missed mandatory yellow card for Mudryk.

    I saw potential in him for Cat1 yes but this is his first hot game for him in Europe so he might be under impression .

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    1. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 22:02

      Hopefully you can sum up his performance and I don’t think that my comment was “spam”, I’m only reported some of the incidents that he could do better and don’t get me wrong, I choose to watch his game because positive review of him but maybe he is also under pressure so he didn’t showed quite impressive performance in 1st half.

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  23. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 21:51

    Handball penalty for France in 45' after OFR.
    Arm clearly in an unnatural position, but deflected by the defender's head immediately before the arm contact.

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  24. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 21:53

    Very obvious sliding tackle penalty for England in 30' directly given by the referee.

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  25. matei1416 June 2023 at 22:18

    Very interesting OFR for Makkelie for an offiside in 70'. It might be a sensational interention by Clay Ruperti.

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  26. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 22:28

    Kabakov completely lost control in Cardiff

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    1. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 23:02

      For what ?

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    2. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 00:03

      Totally disagree!
      He was calm and correct in a quite challenging game! Difficult direct RC for N13 home (supported by AR2)
      2 of the goals were after possible foul in App but correctly allowed by the R.
      For me good performance by Kabakov in a
      quite chalanging game.

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  27. Daniel Bailey16 June 2023 at 22:28

    OFR for handball in Malta, penalty given to England... hand looks close to body, I don't think punishable handling and I think even less that it's VAR stuff

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    1. Elliot16 June 2023 at 22:30

      I'm not convinced either, but we know how strict UEFA is with these handballs…

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    2. Chefren16 June 2023 at 22:35

      It's difficult, even in my opinion not a 100% situation, but here with Croatian VAR this should be something related to their domestic assessment, because I'm more and more convinced UEFA can't give consistent guidelines about handballs to VARs from all countries, there will be always something subjective. Nevertheless, I can't condemn the call.

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    3. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 22:49

      Not too wrong IMO, the stiff arm increases the body surface in a manner, that can be assessed as not natural, especially as the arm even slightly moves towards the path of the ball.

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    4. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 22:51

      Or in other words: Maybe not, what football expects, but probably, what UEFA expects based on the decisions during the season. Therefore also the OFR for a missed incident was justified IMO.

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  28. Chefren16 June 2023 at 22:30

    Two OFRs for Gillett in Belarus - Israel, to be rewatched to first one, while the second is fully correct for a clear penalty and reckless action. Really sorry to say that after Taylor and Oliver I don't see any strong English referee to follow at moment!

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    1. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 23:22

      First one is one of those, where the player behind runs completely normally, but his knee is touched by the foot of the player in front of him. So the question is, whether such actions are careless or not. IMO, there is not really a clear interpretation, so I have some doubts about the OFR.
      IMO the second one is equally difficult, because the defender plays the ball much earlier than sliding into his opponent. Yes, they can be given, if one still thinks, that the reckless aspect of the action is prevailing, but is it really a clear situation?

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    2. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 23:38

      Brooks is the only hope based on age and showcase of ability

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    3. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 00:39

      Brooks was poor in the last game I saw him

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    4. Juan17 June 2023 at 08:05

      Nope. IMO the only hope for England is Michael Salisbury.

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    5. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 09:19

      Darren England and Brooks were considered to be the future of Emgland’s refereeing, however England’s development seemed to stall last season. Probably now he has even been overtaken by Rob Jones in the pecking order.

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  29. Chefren16 June 2023 at 22:33

    The second YC in Latvia - Turkey should have been straight RC.

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    1. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 22:53

      For me, there is not enough intensity for a RC. Dangerous and reckless, but in the end just a normal "high boot" situation and nothing too excessive, I think.

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    2. Quilava16 June 2023 at 22:57

      I'm not sure there was a contact with the head of Turkish player, maybe it should have been just an IFK.

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  30. Chefren16 June 2023 at 22:43

    Well, at the end of this set of games, let's say VARs have more freedom than UEFA club competitions. Many OFR and some of them very controversial. You can see that consistency is an impossible aim in this context.

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  31. Elliot16 June 2023 at 22:52

    Extremely long VAR check in DENNIR and in the end a disallowed goal for Northern Ireland for offside. I personally don't understand why it took so long time, it was tight yes, but still pretty clear when you pause at the correct frame. On the other hand, a very easy game for Stefanski, no big incidents to report

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    1. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 22:58

      Maybe they checked the possible attacking foul first?
      But yes, over 5 minutes (!) is certainly way too long for a VAR check.

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    2. Elliot16 June 2023 at 23:22

      Yeah probably. But I think it was quite clear that it wasn't a foul. Unfortunately everything seems to take at least double the time with the cheaper VAR systems used in Qualifiers and UNL GS compared to those used in the UCL and UEL...

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  32. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 22:59

    2nd YC against North Macedonia in 72' completely undoubtful for a clear SPA offence.

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  33. matei1416 June 2023 at 23:04

    https://streamin.one/v/2d9eb7b4
    Check this OFR for Makkelie that I was writing above at 22:18

    This is pretty much the only interesting moment from this game. The speed of the game was very low because of the pitch, many techincal mistakes by the players, thing that helped the Dutch a lot. A good performance by the referee, he had full control. The players acknowladged him from the beginning as one of the best referees in Europe and respected his decisions.

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    1. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 23:15

      Yes, interesting situation.
      First question: Is the attacker active before the defender gets the ball. IMO clearly not, because he doesn't make any challenging movement towards the defender.
      Second question: Can the defender play the ball in a controlled manner?
      Not so clear. The ball comes rather slowly and on the floor. However the player is still sitting on the ground, which can be a good argument against controlled play. On the other hand, this is not one of the criteria outlined by IFAB (https://www.theifab.com/news/law-11-offside-deliberate-play-guidelines-clarified/).
      So overall, I would support Makkelie here, but for me onside would be the slightly better decision.

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    2. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 23:22

      Totally correct OFR for gaining an advantage after opponent last played the ball. In such kind of situations its a subjective to decide whether its controlled and delibarate play by defender or save(raction).

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    3. Elliot16 June 2023 at 23:32

      In my opinion offside is more for the fact that the KOS player is challenging the ROM player for the ball. I think you could argue that the actions wasn't done in control but I think that is more subjective

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  34. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 23:04

    RC against Ireland in 90+5` for violent conduct, strong bodycheck against the opponent when play was already stopped. Decision is OK, but I didn't really expect it given the high bar for VC, we have seen in recent times

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  35. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 23:09

    RC against Wales in 78' for violent conduct, reported by the AR after an altercation with the goalkeeper off the ball. Looked quite suspicious and like a possible kick, but I couldn't really spot the clear VC action so far.

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    1. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 01:51

      All I see there is simulation.

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    2. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 02:35

      Imo it is clear Violent conduct and the body language of N 13 Wales shows that he knew what he did.

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  36. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 23:18

    I hope someone could sum up full Bulgarian crew performances in Cardiff because I watch another match and I’m curious about their performance, full crew from “small countries” take an action in former EPL venue.

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  37. Philipp S16 June 2023 at 23:27

    And also Kazakhstan got a handball penalty after OFR in 64'.
    This one is rather (but not clearly) wrong IMO, as the arm position appears quite natural and relatively close to the body + the movement tends to be away from the ball. Whether the ball would have hit his body or not without the handball seems not completely clear from the angle shown.

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  38. Anonymous16 June 2023 at 23:40

    How many OFR in total tonight?

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    1. Elliot17 June 2023 at 00:07

      Nine OFRs, then you can add three factual interventions to that as well. Not a very strong day for the referees, with only two games without the need for VAR intervention

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  39. Euro Soccer Ref16 June 2023 at 23:57

    Weak performance by Grinfeld in POLGER friendly. His style and fitness were good but I don't know why he's changed his once strict style to such lenient one. It doesn't suit him completely. Three mandatory YCs missed to Polish side in the first half (very reckless studs tackle by Bednarek in 3' and two SPA/LoR holding offences by S. Szymański and Kamiński in 32' and 36' respectively). In the second half, wrongly guessed penalty for non-existent handball overturned after OFR.

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    1. Andrasch Neunert18 June 2023 at 01:12

      Thats the problem, when a law enforcer feels to be driven to play a smooth ref just to please the comittee instead of staying true to his unique own style. Sure everybody needs room for improvement, and many great refs ended their careers more leniant than they started, but the more experience you have the easier you can adapt your style to the character of the game. Brych was a very good example for such a development. But Grinfelds body language looked strange, like s.o. not being fine with his own role.

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  40. Quilava17 June 2023 at 00:36

    All VAR interventions tonight:

    GREIRL (Lechner): 2 VAR interventions - PK for handball for Greece, then an intervention for a factual decision (Irish goal wrongly disallowed for offside)

    GIBFRA (Aranovsky): 1 OFR - PK for France for handball

    MLTENG (Pajač): 1 OFR - PK for England for handball

    MKDUKR (Fähndrich): 1 OFR - PK for Ukraine for handball

    LATTUR (Bognár): 1 OFR - Turkish goal disallowed for attacking foul in the APP

    DENNIR (Stefański): 1 VAR factual intervention - Northern Ireland late equalizer disallowed, missed offside by AR1

    BLRISR (Gillett): 2 OFRs - Israeli goal disallowed for attacking foul in the APP, then a PK for Israel + YC for an initially missed follow-through incident

    KOSROU (Makkelie): 1 OFR - Kosovo goal disallowed for offside, referee invited to OFR to assess the attacking player's involvement

    SMRKAZ (Papapetrou): 1 OFR - PK for Kazakhstan for handball

    If I'm not wrong (didn't follow closely FINSVN & ANDSUI) only 3 out of 12 referees this evening (Cuadra Fernández, Kabakov & Berke) ended their games without VAR interventions to change decisions. If I was Rosetti I would be very disappointed.

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    1. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 07:39

      That’s many OFR’s indeed, but how many should be spotted live?
      Especially handballs are not always easy to detect and are often not blameworthy or leading to a lower mark

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    2. Elliot17 June 2023 at 11:40

      ANDSUI had a factual VAR intervention on Switzerland's first goal, wrongly flagged offside by AR1

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    3. Anonymous17 June 2023 at 13:09

      I think an OFR in Kosovo is a perfect solution. The kind of moment where you want the referee to decide. I also see there the acceptance of the players and also that its nearly impossible to assess this live.

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  41. Quilava17 June 2023 at 11:21

    Tuesday appointments:

    SCOGEO: Vad (HUN)
    NORCYP: Stavrev (MKD)
    MDAPOL: Glova (SVK)
    FROALB: Theoulí (CYP)
    AUTSWE: Guida (ITA)
    ESTBEL: Beaton (SCO)
    HUNLTU: Nobre (POR)
    BULSRB: Pawson (ENG)
    ISLPOR: Siebert (GER)
    BIHLUX: Leibovitz (ISR)
    LIESVK: Frid (ISR)

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    1. Juan17 June 2023 at 12:14

      Still we didn’t had BLR officials despite their teams can compete in UEFA next season.
      Interesting to see that 3 Israeli officials has been appointed, especially for Leibovitz, I think it’s debut for him, debut in Balkan will be more special, same like Faehndrich.
      Siebert with one-sided match but it was a Euro match replay, still good and will be suit for him.
      Stavrev with farewell match?
      Istvan Vad with good appointment given the context rising of Scottish and Georgian football recently, better than one-sided match for Beaton, Nobre, and Glova, especially for Glova, if I’m not mistaken, in recent times he quite got many shameful appointment.
      Interesting to see Pawson in Balkan, would be very challenging game on paper for him, I don’t think this is good strategy from UEFA to appointed ENG ref to Balkan side.

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