Tuesday, 24 April 2018

Felix Brych in charge of CL Semifinal Liverpool - Roma

Felix Brych has been appointed to handle the first leg of 2017/18 UEFA Champions League semifinal between Liverpool and Roma. It will be the fourth appointment for the German in this KO stage, after having handled two Round of 16 games and a Quarterfinal. 
24.04.2018, 20:45 CET
Anfield, Liverpool (ENG)
FC Liverpool - AS Roma 
Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mark Borsch (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Marco Friz (GER)
Fourth Official: Markus Häcker (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Harry M. Been (NED)
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  1. Referee 1222 April 2018 at 11:08

    Harry M. Been (NED) will be a delegate in Liverpool.

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    1. Mikael W22 April 2018 at 11:26

      After what happened at Liverpool - Manchester City, it seems wise to send Harry Been who was UEFA's delegate for Serbia - Albania eg, for this semifinal.

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    2. Chefren22 April 2018 at 12:40

      Mikael, you know more than UEFA about refereeing and delegates, that's a compliment ;) A pleasure to read a so big expert here on the blog, for sure.

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  2. Anonymous22 April 2018 at 11:10

    Excellent.

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  3. Soham22 April 2018 at 11:11

    The same names again and again and again... So boring but these are the few trustworthy referees UEFA has at the moment so not surprising by any means!!

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    1. Gitzlo22 April 2018 at 12:38

      Michael Oliver in Real-Juve?

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    2. Soham23 April 2018 at 00:02

      That was a surprise for sure... But reading Brych's name 4 times in the CL KO stage has been extremely boring !!

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    3. "Dynamic Personality"???23 April 2018 at 01:32

      Me thinks it bothers you because you continue see and read names that you personally don't like. As an assigner you've gotta go with the people who performing above and beyond all others. Maybe then those others will also step their game up. If not, they can continue to enjoy the games on their telly at home.

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    4. Soham23 April 2018 at 09:15

      For the avoidance of doubt Brych is among my top 5 most favourite European referees of the current generation!!

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  4. CroRef22 April 2018 at 11:13

    Great season for Brych, no doubt. I hope he will continue with his good performances in Russia. If not Rocchi, then Cakir in Munich I guess.

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  5. RayHD22 April 2018 at 11:32

    Fully deserved appointment. Felix Brych is on top form for two-three seasons and surely the best performer from elite group this season. I also like his style presented in UEFA games (I know in Germany he's way too lenient and not keen to whistle even clear penalties, but hey!, it's common in Germany, isn't it? ;)) - he just whistles what is in front of him, not overmanaging games.

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  6. Sale22 April 2018 at 11:40

    I don't think we will see Skomina this week nor next week. Vincic has a match this Wednesday and Skomina next Sunday in 2nd Division without his regular assistants. It should be the final ...

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  7. Chefren22 April 2018 at 11:47

    For sure a deserved game for Brych, I also agree with what RayHD said about his style. He is not a manager, he whistles and he shows cards based on what he sees, without hesitation, and that's good. A "pure" referee.
    The small mistakes by assistant referees in previous games were not considered as relevant and one can agree. There will be always situations like these.
    However, at the same time, one must be honest and must admit that it is a poor management of appointments. With so many Elite referees, one must say that the big trust by committee is only for 5 or maximum 6 referees...
    Also, to be underlined that Brych has been confirmed although there is Bayern in the other game.

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    1. "Dynamic Personality"???23 April 2018 at 01:34

      Those others aren't up to par this season. So they can sith, watch and learn from one who is.

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  8. Peter22 April 2018 at 11:51

    UEFA's UCL Semifinal appointments remain the most predictable ones: There is always (at least) one referee from a country with (at least) one still active club (solely) in the first-leg. Therefore one could have expected Brych or Mateu Lahoz in Liverpool and/or Rocchi in Munich (if we focus on the World Cup referees) - with Brych being the clear number 1 out of those 3:

    2017/18: BRYCH will handle the first-leg match FC LIVERPOOL - AS ROMA (the other one being FC BAYERN MÜNCHEN - REAL MADRID CF).

    2016/17: MATEU LAHOZ handled the first-leg match AS MONACO FC - JUVENTUS (the other one was REAL MADRID CF - CLUB ATLÉTICO DE MADRID).

    2015/16: CLATTENBURG handled the first-leg match CLUB ATLÉTICO DE MADRID - FC BAYERN MÜNCHEN (the other one was MANCHESTER CITY FC - REAL MADRID CF).

    2014/15: RIZZOLI handled the first-leg match FC BARCELONA - FC BAYERN MÜNCHEN (the other one was JUVENTUS - REAL MADRID CF).

    2013/14: WEBB handled the first-leg match REAL MADRID CF - FC BAYERN MÜNCHEN (the other one was CLUB ATLÉTICO DE MADRID - CHELSEA FC).

    2012/13: Both matches (FC BAYERN MÜNCHEN - FC BARCELONA and BORUSSIA DORTMUND - REAL MADRID CF) between GER and ESP, therefore no referees from GER and ESP appointable.

    2011/12: BRYCH handled the first-leg match CHELSEA FC - FC BARCELONA (the other one was FC BAYERN MÜNCHEN - REAL MADRID CF).

    2010/11: STARK handled the first-leg match REAL MADRID CF - FC BARCELONA (the other one was FC SCHALKE 04 - MANCHESTER UNITED FC).

    2010/11: VELASCO CARBALLO handled the first-leg match FC SCHALKE 04 - MANCHESTER UNITED FC (the other one was REAL MADRID CF - FC BARCELONA).

    2009/10: ROSETTI handled the first-leg match FC BAYERN MÜNCHEN - OLYMPIQUE LYONNAIS (the other one was FC INTERNAZIONALE MILANO - FC BARCELONA).

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  9. Teo22 April 2018 at 11:54

    Expected appointment. For other three matches we will probably see Cakir, Kuipers and Skomina/mazic (it depends who will get the final).
    OT (I wrote in previous page, but this news is new one, so I'll write it here as an information):
    In Serbia, referee automatically retires at the end of the season during which he becomes 46 years old. So, for Mazic that means that (if nothing changes) next season 2018/19 will be the last, because he will be 46 on March 23, 2019. He will finish his career when next season ends.

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    1. Mikael W22 April 2018 at 12:19

      Thank you @Teo for this crucial information!

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    2. Chefren22 April 2018 at 12:23

      Thanks for the answer, so we should know whether Serbian federation has planned to confirm Mazic on the list for 2019, despite of his domestic retirement planned on June 2019. He could spend only 6 months as FIFA referee in 2019, maybe just to get a final (if this wont happen now, of course). Maybe Mazic himself will inform federation about his plans and ideas...

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    3. Sale22 April 2018 at 12:26

      As I wrote above, Vincic with an appointment on Wednesday which rules out Skomina (unless Slovenian FA is "lazy" with changes again).

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  10. Philipp S22 April 2018 at 12:29

    So Dankert will miss some days of the second seminar week in Italy.

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    1. Chefren22 April 2018 at 12:37

      Indeed, according to the info I got, all 13 VAR will attend both weeks. We have Orsato and Makkelie as possible referees in charge of a game...

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    2. Philipp S22 April 2018 at 18:12

      DFB President Grindel has written on Twitter today, that Dankert and Zwayer will be VARs at the WC. But I am not sure, whether that means anything more than, what we already know...

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    3. Chefren22 April 2018 at 19:02

      My original idea was that all the 13 names were in any case already planned to be confirmed... so skipping some days for Dankert wouldn't be that problem. Let's wait for the final announcement.

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  11. Unknown22 April 2018 at 12:47


    Çakir ia sure for Madrid-Bayern in Madrid,
    I think.

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  12. Unknown22 April 2018 at 13:30

    Brych in Liverpool-City, Brych for Liverpool-Roma.........

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  13. Mlacko22 April 2018 at 13:47

    OT

    Anyone watched Youth league and Srdjan Jovanovic performance?
    Saw picture that it went to deciding penalty kicks

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    1. DrMr22 April 2018 at 16:14

      Good, expected performance!
      Well accepted, good managment and crucial decisions were corectly taken (no penalty situation, foul before Chelsea goal).
      Two very good no offside decisions for ARs before both goals for Chelsea.

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    2. Soham22 April 2018 at 17:03

      DrMr any news available on Mazic?? ;)

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    3. DrMr22 April 2018 at 23:47

      We won't see him in appointment tomorrow :)

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    4. Soham23 April 2018 at 00:00

      I'm expecting him in Rome :)

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  14. Soham22 April 2018 at 17:03

    OT:

    Anyone watching Martin Atkinson in the FA Cup semi-final Chelsea v Southampton??

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    1. Chefren22 April 2018 at 18:00

      What happened?

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    2. Michael22 April 2018 at 18:03

      Watched the second half, was a good performance. Only major talking point was the incident around 70-75 minutes when the Chelsea GK spilled the ball across the goal line but was adjudged to have been fouled. A soft one but VAR was correct not to suggest it was a goal.

      VAR in both the of the semi-finals looks to have been used without controversy or much delay, doing the job in the background as it should.

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    3. Michael22 April 2018 at 18:12

      Though we did have Graham Poll on BT Sport suggesting that once the GK is off the ground in the goal area they cannot be touched - where is that mentioned in the LOTG?!

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    4. Soham22 April 2018 at 18:32

      So we have a Chelsea v Manchester United Final in the FA Cup... I think it has Michael Oliver written all over it...

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    5. Mikael W22 April 2018 at 19:13

      Oliver a more than clear favourite IMO. It would be nice for Swarbrick but I doubt he could handle such a top clash.

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    6. Jackson23 April 2018 at 16:33

      Agreed. I think Michael will get it!

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  15. Jhonatan Luís Baum22 April 2018 at 19:20


    I also believe that it will be Oliver, also because Swarbrick was fourth referee today.

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    1. Soham22 April 2018 at 19:55

      Swarbrick has never done a match between the top 6 teams even in Premier League... I don't think he would be appointed anyway... With all respect to the club, perhaps Southampton qualifying was Swarbrick's only chance!!

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  16. Chefren22 April 2018 at 20:29

    My prediction for Bayern - Real is Cüneyt Çakır.

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    1. Soham22 April 2018 at 20:58

      Then 2nd legs who? Most importantly in Madrid?

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    2. Chefren22 April 2018 at 21:07

      One between the two names we always mention in recent times on this blog :)

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    3. Soham22 April 2018 at 23:04

      Twitter please when you are free :D

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    4. Referee 1222 April 2018 at 23:50

      I agree with Chefren, I think we will see Cakir's name tommorow. It is interesting that, if appointed, all Cakir's appointments this season would be first leg matches. For the second legs I think Turpin in Rome and Kuipers in Madrid, Skomina for the final. In Europa league Collum, Marciniak, Makkelie and not sure for the last name (Rocchi, Hategan, Undiano). Mažić for the final. About Skomina vs Mažić - it all goes in favour of Skomina for CL final and Mažić for EL final. I know this is Mažić's last season but history of committee's behavior (they don't care a lot if someone is doing his last season, we saw that in cases of Bo Larsen, De Bleeckere or Stark). Skomina has already officiated three CL semi-finals and EL final, while Mažić officiated nothing of that so the history of their appointments indicate Skomina for CL final. Third, I don't think they would appoint Mažić for CL final without a single knock-out match in CL before a final. My guess is Mažić won't see CL knoc-out stage this season, but will get EL final, Fandel as observers in his last match indicate committee has a plan for Mažić - EL final. I really don't know why Rocchi was not appointed since PSG-Real, I don't remember he did some very wrong that he would not be appointed again. Moreover, Marciniak is appointed for CL/EL semi-final, even that in his only match this year he was bad, so I really don't understand what is wrong with Rocchi.

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    5. Soham22 April 2018 at 23:59

      Rocchi, if not appointed in CL, can be a very good candidate for Atletico Madrid v Arsenal... Plus I'm strongly expecting Mazic in a CL Semi-final... It would be weird to see him not appear in CL at all when he isn't injured and neither is there any poor performance or anything!!

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  17. RayHD22 April 2018 at 20:49

    Simulation, play-on, FK + YC or FK + RC?
    https://streamable.com/rodu8

    Reckless or SFP?
    https://streamable.com/c6yl2

    UB or VC?
    https://streamable.com/aukgc

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    1. Michael22 April 2018 at 21:15

      Simulation, might have been slight contact but that doesn't mean you go down like you've been shot. If he made an attempt to stay on his feet and stumbled he might not get a penalty, but he would surely have escaped a 2nd YC/RC.

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    2. Jackson23 April 2018 at 16:37

      I disagree, I think thats a foul.

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    3. Jackson23 April 2018 at 16:40

      I would also go reckless and UB on the other 2.

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  18. Mikael W22 April 2018 at 20:59

    Interesting opening minutes for Rocchi in Italy's top clash. Correct YC for reckless tackle after an advantage, then a YC:SPA for JUV#04- could have been DOGSO but I think YC was better choice here.

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    1. Mikael W22 April 2018 at 21:02

      Now another correct YC:SPA.
      Brave by Rocchi, three cautions after less than fifteen minutes- all deserved. The older, sharper Rocchi was required tonight- I like it!

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    2. Chefren22 April 2018 at 21:09

      100% agree, excellent Rocchi, especially in the first situation, two yellow cards in a row. Third YC was fully correct as well. Faultless. I don't know why he doesn't officiate always in this manner, he would have reached definitely more... maybe it is also because he prepared this game for a long time (I'm sure he had been already informed that he would have got it).

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    3. Mikael W22 April 2018 at 21:38

      (One of) the best times that iveI seen Rocchi. Players very nervous, so Rocchi's active approach basically fully succeeded. Great warning for dissent at around 26', excellent management of the riot at 31'. Only very small, minor mistakes, maybe a missing YC:SPA at 41'.
      For what it's worth huge praise of the refereeing on English television! I am fully agreed with them.

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    4. Mikael W22 April 2018 at 22:41

      Excellent Rocchi tonight, much calmer second half solved without cards. First thirty minutes 'won' the match for the Italian WC referee.
      Candidate for Bayern - Real? I think he could make sth big during WC in any case, one of the not-so-many UEFA referees who could handle a South American clash (IMO).
      Anyway, top class performance tonight!

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    5. Soham22 April 2018 at 23:03

      This is an interesting topic... Who are the candidates according to you suitable of handling South American matches? Lovely topic to discuss this!

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    6. Philipp S23 April 2018 at 08:51

      I agree that Rocchi could go far during the WC, especially without national team and with VARs from his country (same conditions as Kuipers).
      For Latin-American clashes: Among others Cakir, Brych and Kuipers should be quite able to handle those.

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  19. Michael22 April 2018 at 22:59

    https://youtu.be/wZSqJ887VJ4?t=133 - post match

    https://youtu.be/B08dHBOsvUs?t=185 - incident at 72 mins (hopefully it can be viewed outside the UK)

    Some quotes from ex-ref Graham Poll: "the GK within the 6 yard area is protected by law...when his feet come off the ground he needs protecting..."
    "yes, there is a different law for an outfield player"
    "law states you have to protect the GK"

    The incident was probably correctly called as a foul, but can anyone tell me where in the LOTG it gives special protection to a GK?

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    1. VG23 April 2018 at 01:48

      Basically nothing Graham said was from the laws of the game. What is he talking about ''the goalkeeper is protected by law in the 6 yard box''? Since when? There is no such thing in the laws of the game.

      He should be saying ''If a goalkeeper has possession of the ball he can't be challenged for it'' That's the only thing the law says.

      PS: I haven't seen the incident.

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  20. Unknown23 April 2018 at 01:38


    Excellent Rocchi tonight, but not in Real-PSG
    of Champions. I don´t hope Rocchi in Múnich.

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  21. Chefren23 April 2018 at 08:17

    Rocchi was really excellent yesterday, I hope he will officiate all WC games he will get in the same manner... that would mean for sure something big for him. I invite you to watch the game if you have the chance, it is very rare to see a so faultless refereeing.

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    2. Anonymous23 April 2018 at 17:56

      Completely agree. On the contrary, in my opinion Orsato's management was even better than that of last night. From the point of view of player acceptance. Yesterday evening the players showed their disagreement on some occasions with obvious blatancy. With Orsato I remember no.

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    3. Anonymous23 April 2018 at 17:58

      But both were very good performances

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  22. CroRef23 April 2018 at 10:10

    Knvb announced that Kuipers is appointed for Munich match. More or less expected.

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    1. Soham23 April 2018 at 12:30

      I'm sure you are more than happy today like me??

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    2. CroRef23 April 2018 at 19:02

      Of course, but I hoped he will be appointed in second leg considering the fact that he was never appointed to Santiago Bernabeu.

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    3. Soham23 April 2018 at 19:47

      Still there is time for that next year :D He said he probably won't retire internationally this year... He did go to the Santiago Bernabeu for the Spain v Italy WCQ match in September 2017 though :D

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  23. Mikael W23 April 2018 at 16:55

    Something at least slightly remarkable- this is Brych's first CL Semifinal since Chelsea - Barcelona in 2012.

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  24. Autor23 April 2018 at 18:27

    Do you think that Brych will officiate both legs between Roma and Liverpool?

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    1. Mikael W23 April 2018 at 18:54

      That 'rule' and not appointing a local referee for a same-nation derby, are the only rules 'left' by Collina since he joined office for UEFA.
      I hope they remain that way.

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    2. Soham23 April 2018 at 19:48

      That would be Brych's 5th CL KO in a single season :D Even Çakir 🇹🇷 hasn't managed such a feat yet :D

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  25. Chefren24 April 2018 at 16:28

    Rosetti about VAR
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp431Y1Eqf0

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  26. Tom24 April 2018 at 20:09

    Championsleague Appointments of the last years:

    Semifinal
    Semifinal
    Semifinal
    Semifinal

    Final


    2011:
    Carballo
    Stark
    de Bleckere
    Proenca

    Kassai

    2012:
    Webb
    Brych
    Cakir
    Kassai

    Proenca

    2013:
    Kassai
    Kuipers
    Webb
    Skomina

    Rizolli

    2014:
    Erikson
    Webb
    Proenca
    Rizzoli

    Kuipers

    2015:
    Atkinson
    Rizzoli
    Clattenburg
    Erikson

    Cakir


    2016:
    Cakir
    Clattenburg
    Cakir
    Skomina

    Clattenburg

    2017:
    Atkinson
    Lahoz
    Kuipers
    Cakir

    Brych

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  27. Chefren24 April 2018 at 20:52

    Serious problems for Lupp with his flag and I think that he also missed a tight offside, maybe not 100% concentrated due to this reason...

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    1. Filip V24 April 2018 at 20:55

      He showed offside with hes stick

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    2. RayHD24 April 2018 at 20:56

      I thought he signalled a goal-kick.

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    3. Unknown24 April 2018 at 21:02

      The signal was definitely for a goal kick.

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  28. Mlacko24 April 2018 at 20:52

    Some problems with AR2 with his flag, probably missed small offside?

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  29. referee24 April 2018 at 20:53

    The asistant referee with no flag, just the beep stick. He called an offaide with the stick in one hand and the actual flag in the other. The FO walked around to pick up the pieces from the extra flag they brought AR2

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  30. RayHD24 April 2018 at 20:55

    Allowing play to continue in such circumstances was a totally bad choice from Brych. How can Lupp focus on the offside?!

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    1. VG24 April 2018 at 21:04

      Yes. To me it was not respectful and he made the AR very stressed.

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    2. Mlacko24 April 2018 at 21:08

      Maybe he asked Lupp if he wants to stop but he said to continue?

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  31. Unknown24 April 2018 at 21:07

    A minute after the potential missed offside for Lupp, Borsch flagged for offside but it looked level? And then in minute 17 there was another super close onside call by Borsch that it would be worth looking at again.

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    1. VG24 April 2018 at 21:21

      It wasn’t level. The foot was offside.

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  32. Mlacko24 April 2018 at 21:19

    Correct offside call from AR2 to dissallow LIV goal.

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  33. Quilava24 April 2018 at 21:26

    38' YC Alexander-Arnold for reckless challenge.

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  34. Ref_170724 April 2018 at 21:33

    Very solid performance by Brych so far. No major mistakes. Some close calls for both ARs, however, they seemed correct if we exclude the missed offside position by Lupp at the beginning of the game.

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  35. Skystar24 April 2018 at 21:57

    OT. There is a very critical derby between Galatasaray-Besiktas on this Sunday evening in Turkish Super League. This would be some kind of championship decisive game. Logic says Cuneyt Cakir should be in the middle. However, if he is to be appointed on Tuesday for Real-Bayern this would be impossible, i think. So, ref appointments of TFF on Thursday might give us some hints :)

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    1. Chefren24 April 2018 at 21:59

      Very interesting, indeed. On Thursday you can write again here informing us about the appointment, thank you :)

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  36. Yk24 April 2018 at 21:59

    Offside before the third goal?

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    1. Chefren24 April 2018 at 22:00

      To be rewatched, maybe it was on level. Very difficult decision, I would back AR in any case.

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    2. Yk24 April 2018 at 22:01

      Me too especially because the replay didn’t really help

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    4. Yk24 April 2018 at 22:06

      It seems onside here. Great call!

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    5. Unknown24 April 2018 at 22:11

      ^Agree!

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    6. RayHD24 April 2018 at 22:20

      It looks like a great onside

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbkshHSWkAAswo9.jpg

      And offside call some minutes earlier

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dbkr8qdW0Agh_Ne.jpg

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  37. Mlacko24 April 2018 at 22:04

    Great two on-sides from AR1 leading to a goal !

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  38. Chefren24 April 2018 at 22:12

    5-0: there was a player in offside in front of Roma's keeper.
    Possible offside but in case, very difficult to detect for AR1 (obstructing line of vision at the moment of the shot).

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  39. david0224 April 2018 at 22:19

    With that score in first leg, perhaps we could expect a little surprise for the second leg? I'm thinking about someone like Marciniak, Hategan...
    Or the Committe won't take any risk after Oliver's performance in Madrid and appoints Mazic?

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    1. "Dynamic Personality"???25 April 2018 at 01:54

      Hopefully the Ref Com have a better memory than you do. Have we already forgotten that Roma was able to overcome a similar deficit against Barcelona? No need for a Oliver part 2 this time. Send those who have been good if not great this season. No more tests ,speculations, or misjudging the series.

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    2. david0225 April 2018 at 08:50

      Don't worry, I remember the match between Real and Juventus refereed by Michael Oliver quite well. And I wrote that comment when the score was 5:0, and I think that the choice of Marciniak or Hategan would be a different one to Oliver because both have much more experience than the English. Since the final score is 5:2, there isn't any room for such appointments, my choice would be Mazic, but I also think that Marciniak isn't thaaaat unlikely, especially when Mazic is planned for a final.

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  40. Quilava24 April 2018 at 22:19

    73' YC Lovren. Reckless or SFP? Borderline for me.

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    1. usaref24 April 2018 at 22:24

      ??? Wasn't it for SPA? I think you saw the Milner challenge on replay, which didn't get called.

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  41. Chefren24 April 2018 at 22:22

    Second leg can be for Marciniak, I don't think that committee will make any different choice if not the Polish or another experienced official, after what happened with Oliver. Not for Oliver of course, but jsut because in this game there is another Italian team involved and I'm sure Collina wants to avoid every criticism this time.

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    1. david0224 April 2018 at 22:30

      Ok, after the two goals scored by AS Rom we can forget these speculations ;D
      I expect Mazic in Rome, Cakir in Madrid and Skomina in Kyiv.

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    2. "Dynamic Personality"???25 April 2018 at 01:57

      Such short memory spans among many of you. You've already forgotten what Roma was able to do versus Barcelona. But keep thinking that the 2nd game is a simple "gimme" game and we'll end up with Michael Oliver version 2.0.

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  42. Yk24 April 2018 at 22:27

    Penalty for handball!

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  43. Mlacko24 April 2018 at 22:27

    Correct PK for Roma for handball by Milner

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  44. Chefren24 April 2018 at 22:28

    5-2 and now everything changes. :) Well, never talk before the final whistle.

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  45. Chefren24 April 2018 at 22:32

    The penalty called is not so much clear if you ask me.

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    1. Teo24 April 2018 at 22:35

      Not clear at all. Rather wrong decision, especially after replay. Hand in natural position, no movement towards the ball...

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    2. Mikael W24 April 2018 at 22:35

      A replay from a good angle latterly.
      Last ditch attempt to block a shot, and it hit his tense arm enlarging his body surface.
      Correct penalty IMO, especially according to UEFA.

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    3. Teo24 April 2018 at 22:39

      Arm is always enlarging body surface :-)
      We'll wait for UEFA RAP to know what do they think... Brych was bad positioned, he couldn't see the incident properly. He stood much from the side, but gave penalty immediately and didn't wait for AAR2's suggestion.

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    4. fednik24 April 2018 at 22:39

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    5. VG24 April 2018 at 22:42

      According to UEFA’s guidelines it’s wrong. They don’t call handballs like this.

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    6. Teo24 April 2018 at 22:49

      Handling in PK area really annoys me. For example, in Premier league this handball is never a penalty. Ever. Only this season there were at least 20 similar situations, or situations that are much more PKs, and refs never gave penalties. On the other side, if I understood RayHD correctly, in Poland this kind of handballs are always PKs. There shouldn't be different rules in European competitions and in national championships.

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    7. Paddy24 April 2018 at 22:56

      There was a perfect view in german tv - Penalty for me

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    8. RayHD24 April 2018 at 22:57

      Polish Referee Department adapted its guidelines to UEFA interpretations at the last seminar, after receiving an e-mail from same Pierluigi Collina (he kindly asked to be informed what exactly is the situation with interpretations of handling offences in Poland).

      In the situation from today's game, the key factor is whether the player expected the ball. If yes, and his action was directed to block the shot, he had enough time to avoid contact. Some kind of grey area, but I tend to agree with Brych's call more than with a potential play-on call.

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    9. Teo24 April 2018 at 23:13

      I don't know...
      Is there any action from Milner in order to block the shot?
      Did he have time to move his arm and avoid contact?
      For me, on both question the answer is no. Short distance, fast ball, might be the ball touched his body first (could be I am wrong)... From the Brych's position maybe it looked like a PK, but as I said - he didn't have good angle to see the incident properly.

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    10. Unknown25 April 2018 at 00:54


      Penalty inexistent. One gift for Roma.

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    11. MT25 April 2018 at 07:33

      Impossible to avoid at that speed? It surely was, that's why he shouldn't have had the arm outstretched by 0,5m!

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  46. CroRef24 April 2018 at 22:33

    Since we know Marciniak is appointed next week, I guess all appointments for next week are already made. I think that whatever the results in first legs will be, best of the best will be appointed next week.

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    1. RayHD24 April 2018 at 22:35

      The Polish FA informed that the appointments for second legs will be made on 27 April.

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    2. George24 April 2018 at 22:39

      So Marciniak is not appointed yet, is he?

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    3. RayHD24 April 2018 at 22:50

      They informed that he will handle one of the second legs but it's still to be determined (on 27 April) whether it's a CL or EL semi-final.

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    4. "Dynamic Personality"???25 April 2018 at 02:01

      EL! He hasn't been up to CL standards this season. What is right and just needs to be done. This way the Ref Comm can try to save at least some of it's almost non existent credibility.

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  47. Gylfi4624 April 2018 at 23:01

    Great refereeing. But the penalty for me was a harsh handball decision on Milner. It was impossible for him to avoid it. Anyway, I don’t think it’ll affect the 2nd leg. Liverpool will go through.

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  48. RayHD24 April 2018 at 23:04

    My marks for today:
    Brych - 8.3/4 (situation with assistant's flag)
    Borsch - 8.7 (three excellent onside/offside calls)
    Lupp - 8.3 (one missed offside)

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    1. ned24 April 2018 at 23:45

      Please can you tell me more about how the marks are allocated. What does the "/4" after the 8.3 mean? I am new to watching referees :) Thank you.

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    2. RayHD25 April 2018 at 00:00

      It's my feeling that the mark should be either 8.3 or 8.4.

      9.0 - 10.0 Excellent performance.
      8.5 - 8.9 Very good, with important decisions correctly taken.
      8.3 - 8.4 Good, expected level.
      8.2 Satisfactory, with small areas for improvement.
      8.0 - 8.1 Satisfactory, with important areas for improvement.
      7.9 One clear and important error; otherwise 8.3 or higher.
      7.8 One clear and important error; otherwise 8.0 - 8.2.
      7.5 - 7.7 Below expectations, with important areas for improvement (match control).
      7.0 - 7.4 Poor performance, with two or more clear and important errors.
      6.0 - 6.9 Very poor, unacceptable performance.

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    3. Gitzlo25 April 2018 at 00:10

      I agree except the penalty call which was wrong for me (never deliberately). A normal Brych thing: He decides 4 minutes additional time, there is another substitution during the additional time and his final whistle is after 3:58...

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    4. Unknown25 April 2018 at 11:27


      Penalty inexistent. Brych, 8,00

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  49. Teo25 April 2018 at 00:20

    Do you remember situation in Bayern-Arsenal (Mazic as a ref), when Robben tried to score and Arsenal's defender stopped the ball with his hand (it is in UEFA's this year RAP)? Defender was 2-3 meters from the goal, his arm was outstretched and enlarged his body quite a lot, he defended a goal, but there was no movement from him and the ball clearly hit his arm. Mazic and AAR1 Grujic decided for the corner kick, and for UEFA this was correct call. And this situation is much more penalty situation than Milner's one. You can compare it (not the same situation, but they are comparable) and see by yourself. So, if that was not a penalty in Munchen, for me this one is surely not in Liverpool.

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  50. Jackson25 April 2018 at 09:33

    Why so much hate for Michael Oliver? Was the match controversial? Yes. But was Michael absolutely correct in the big incidents and overall had a good game? Also yes!

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    1. Soham25 April 2018 at 14:25

      Absolutely spot on!!

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    2. "Dynamic Personality"???25 April 2018 at 22:45

      Are you sure? Do you know something we don't know? Do you know how he was evaluated by his match assessor? Unless you know these things, you're simply ASSuming.

      Not surprised by Soham's agreeing with you. He's already making the necessary transition/conversion to become a Oliver mega-fan/fanboy once Kuipers finally retires(thankfully).

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  51. RayHD25 April 2018 at 10:45

    Marciniak is not ready to handle the second leg of CL/EL semi-final. He was interviewed by a radio today. He told that he still needs 7-10 days to fully recover from the injury and you need to be 100% ready for such game. In another circumstances, he would have risked refereeing that game perhaps but with the WC ahead it's not a wise move. He will handle some games in Ekstraklasa before the WC in order to jump in the match rhythm.

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    1. Chefren25 April 2018 at 10:47

      So, is the appointment officially annulled?

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    2. Ref_170725 April 2018 at 10:53

      Well, in that case: What about Brych one more time? ;-)

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    3. RayHD25 April 2018 at 10:55

      @Chefren - Yes, he said he had to give up on that game.

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    4. Insider25 April 2018 at 11:23

      Er pfeift kein Halbfinale, er ist noch verletzt.

      https://zapinamypasy.pl/pilka-nozna/nasz-news-marciniak-nie-bedzie-sedzia-polfinalu

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    5. Philipp S25 April 2018 at 13:23

      So, who will get his SF then? Assuming Rocchi or Orsato will have one SF, I think the options for the second SF are (in the order of my preference)
      Rocchi/Orsato (i.e. 2 Italians)
      Makkelie
      Karasev
      Skomina/Mazic

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    6. Unknown25 April 2018 at 15:01

      Real-Bayern, Çakir
      Roma-Liverpool, Mazic
      Atlético-Arsenal, Rocchi
      Salzburg-Marseille, Matéu

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    7. "Dynamic Personality"???26 April 2018 at 01:57

      He should have never even been in the conversation to begin with. At least not this season. So strictly basing it performance wise. It's a resounding "NO" for the Polaks.

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  52. Mikael W25 April 2018 at 19:44

    Thanks! Nice appointment for the Hungarian, expected IMO.

    Exciting number of options for the final this year:
    Adamkova? Zadinova? Larsson? Persson? Hussein? Frappart? Vitulano? Mularczyk?

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  53. Stake25 April 2018 at 20:09

    I tend to say this:
    - If Lyon will not go to the final: Stéphanie Frappart
    - If Lyon goes to the final: Jana Adamkova

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  54. Chefren25 April 2018 at 20:10

    I'm not so expert in UEFA Women's refereeing, but I have really appreciated Frappart development in recent times.
    However, I would not still appoint her for the "big game", because she is still quite young and she can assure several seasons at high level. Maybe this time we will see Carina Vitulano?

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  55. Soham25 April 2018 at 20:38

    Vitulano had a poor Women's Euro... My bet will be on Jana Adamkova!!

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  56. Chefren25 April 2018 at 22:24

    Poor? Are you sure? Did you check RAP? She was excellent in all decisions, only mistake was made by AR Lucia Abruzzese.

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  57. Mikael W25 April 2018 at 23:36

    As I remember, Vitulano didn't whistle a good EURO, at least she struggled in FRA-ISL.
    One problem for the Italian, she hasn't led one match this season in CL, so I think it is impossible to expect her in the final.
    IMO a shame Vitulano didn't get it in 2016.

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  58. Soham26 April 2018 at 00:13

    @Chefren I basically knew the name of Vitulano from her struggles in the Netherlands :)

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