2021 FIFA Arab Cup will be used for testing preselected WC referees. These are the referees in charge of Semifinals.
Arab Nations Cup - Qatar 2021
Semifinals, 15 December 2021
Tunisia vs Egypt
Referee: FAGHANI Alireza (IRN)
Assistant Referee 1: ABOLFAZLI Mohammadreza (IRN)
Assistant Referee 2: GITTELMANN Christian (GER)
Fourth Official: MATONTE CABRERA Andres Matias (URU)
Reserve AR : SOPPI Martin (URU)
Video Assistant Referee: CUADRA FERNANDEZ Guillermo (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: EVANS Shaun (AUS)
Offside VAR : FOLTYN Rafael (GER)
Support VAR : DINGERT Christian (GER)
Assessor : DOUE Noumandiez (CIV)
Qatar vs Algeria
Referee: MARCINIAK Szymon (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: SOKOLNICKI Pawel (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: LISTKIEWICZ Tomasz (POL)
Fourth Official: MARTINEZ Said (HON)
Reserve AR : LOPEZ Walter (HON)
Video Assistant Referee: KWIATKOWSKI Tomasz (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: BLOM Kevin (NED)
Offside VAR : BRAILOVSKY Ezequiel (ARG)
Support VAR : ESCOBEDO Adonai (MEX)
Assessor : MOHD SALLEH Subkhiddin (MAS)
Maybe Siebert Final and Sampaio for the 3. Place Match
ReplyDeleteReferees AFCON Cameroon 2022 - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGlhE88XoAgOWeC?format=jpg&name=small
ReplyDeleteElfath is Moroccan (or at least born and raised), so he should be uneligible to handle Morocco and Algeria.
DeleteIndeed very particular choice, they could have invited another referee from CONCACAF to avoid this issue, nothing in particular against El Fath but I think this is the first case in whch a referee from another confederation, invited to a major tournament, will not be allowed to handle certain games.
DeleteHaving said that, at first glance I think there isn't any big name missing there, Maguette N'Diaye called as well after the very discussed Ghana - South Africa, and this will be another "trouble" for appointments as well.
The big name missing is Alioum, I think. He still seems to be active (e.g. WC qualifier in October) in general.
DeleteAnd then also Otogo-Castane, who was a regular at the last AFCONs (but gets 46 next year - so maybe he leaves the FIFA list?).
Exactly, the referee (Alioum) and fourth official (Otogo) of the last AFCON final are missing!
DeleteIt's strange to me that the most experienced (and maybe the best) CAF referees like Gassama, Tessema, Victor Gomes are chosen only as VAR and not as main referees.
DeleteIt seems now that VAR role is becoming more important of the referee's one.
As main referee I see only Camille, Heldes de Carvalho and Selmi in charge for the final match
I think, the document wants to say, that Gassama etc. will work as referee AND VAR. The specialist VARs are in the section below.
DeleteBut it's a bit confusing indeed.
Yes it is as Philipp says, the selected VAR are the ones in the specific group below, then other referees are specified as VAR because they have the license and they can work in this role as well, it is not for all. Indeed, the document is not totally clear but that's the explanation.
DeleteYes thanks I got your explanation in another website; but it was a bit not clear... :-)
DeleteGassama's performances were unconvincing, should be out. I think someone appointed to the QFs will get the final.
ReplyDeleteGittelmann's presence in the semis may indicate that he and his German team will not be in the final.
ReplyDeleteMaybe FIFA kept Argentine Tello for the final? Is it known which refs were sent home?
The final will likely go to a CONMEBOL referee.
ReplyDeletePrédictions pour la finale :
ReplyDeleteTunisie # Algérie Gassama / Seibert / Sato / Tello
Qatar # Égypte Sampaio / Seibert / Tello
Tunisie # Qatar Sampaio / Tello / Seibert
Égypte # Algérie Gassama / Sato / Seibert / Sampaio / Tello / Martinez Said
In Faghani's previous matches at this tournament he had the Qatari VAR Al-Marri but for this semi-final his VAR is from Spain. Any theories as to why?
ReplyDeleteWho are Algeria playing in the other semifinal? ;)
DeleteAhh, that would make sense.
DeleteReferee Retireing Ceremony in Japan.
ReplyDeleteMasaaki Iemoto (Toma)
https://youtu.be/wxchw2GJCzs
Nobutsugu Murakami
https://youtu.be/Uz8F0rZczEI
Big THANK YOU and GOOD LUCK to them!
Deletehttps://www.knvb.nl/nieuws/scheidsrechters/scheidsrechters/65660/sander-van-roekel-bergt-de-vlag-op-geen-doel-meer
ReplyDeleteNext week, Sander van Roekel will retire as AR. Van Roekel was former AR1 of Team Kuipers. His last game will be Vitesse - PEC Zwolle together with Pol van Boekel and Erwin Zeinstra.
The main reason is that Van Roekel has no target anymore.
OT: Recently I had a discussion with a friend of mine who also loves refereeing. We talked a lot about the current ‘Elite’ referees and somehow we ended up with analyzing differences between their styles.
ReplyDeleteSome examples:
- A player’s friend vs. very distanced
- Background-minded vs. authoritative
- No facial expressions vs. many facial expressions
- Etc.
For example Marciniak seems to be a good example of being close to the players, while for example Kuipers seemed a bit more distanced and authoritative.
Let’s be clear: it’s all good :) Whatever works for them is fine.
We found it really fascinating to study referees, recognize their styles and the biggest differences between them. I would also love to hear your opinions about this topic.
So my question is:
How would you allocate or describe the style of other Elite referees like Taylor, Brych, Siebert, Turpin, Hategan, Vincic, Makkelie, Mateu Lahoz, Carlos DCG, Orsato, etc.?
I’m not an expert, but… Let’s have a shot.
Delete-Marciniak: a player’s friend
-Mateu Lahoz: charismatic. Very expressive
-Turpin: more distanced. Little bit arrogant
-Gil Manzano: social guy. Also very expressive
-Taylor: calm and confident, without being too arrogant
-Makkelie: I'd say flexible? Depends on the type of game and players
-Orsato: authoritive and I guess a bit more distanced (not sure though)
-Vincic: also a bit more distanced from what I remember. And a no-nonsense approach
-Hategan: middle-grounded :)
Thanks for the quality of your comments, it is definitely a pleasure for me to read them on the blog!
Delete@Ref Watcher about Orsato, I can confirm 100% what you said, in Latin I could describe him as referee "Ex cathedra", he doesn't look for connection with players, but he just wants them to follow him with an authoritive and very distanced style that worked very well in serie A, and it was also in my opinion the first issue to solve for him, for developing the same level in international games, in which the first barrier is language.
Then, he managed to do that in an excellent way and he is now respected, I remember many doubts by readers on this blog until less than 2 years ago and before CL final, then I think he totally confirmed to be a top class.
Mateu Lahoz can be described as the opposite, regarding the relations with players, Orsato would never touch / smile to them, 100% pure different styles.
About Gil Manzano, there are still some things to understand, he looks to be very social with players, as you described, but maybe not at Mateu's level. To mention the third Spanish name, Del Cerro, he never managed to reach a certain level of connection with players if you ask me, looking to be more worried to take correctly important decisions (and maybe this was his problem in recent times).
Turpin is quite distanced by players, and acts rather as isolated man when he takes decisions, that's excellent in terms of not being influenced by teams and crowd, and that's why I like him, but indeed maybe a small step is missing as well to be even more perfect: looking for more interaction with players. Taylor is bit different, he is not isolated like Turpin, but at the same time I think that he doesn't like too much interaction with players.
About Makkelie I could write a very long analysis, indeed in my opinion at moment he seems to be the most versatile UEFA Elite, with the capacity of adapting his style to the game he is about to officiate, never the same (and a referee should be always able to do that), and based on the game, he can have different relations with players. He is not isolated like Turpin, he interacts with players but he takes crucial decisions as it should be expected: by being isolated. So at moment I think he maybe has the best qualities regarding these aspects.
About Vincic, until a few years ago, I would have said very authoritative, almost like Orsato, with many cards for dissent, and a clear distance with players. After some discussed performances, I think he changed a bit his style, trying to be closer to player, but still quite distanced, indeed. I think he elaborated that this was the best choice for him, however I still need time to fully understand him, I can say that I know the others absolutely better, we will see in future.
Marciniak has similar skills to Makkelie, with the capacity of taking important decisions by being isolated, but I think that he has a trend of being in almost all cases close to players, however he are really talking about nuances, and it is very difficult.
About Hategan, I really don't know, in my opinion he doesn't seem to be at the level of all the previous mentioned referees, that's why I still don't see him as very top, sometimes he seems to be very close to players, other times he takes very harsh and isolated decisions, without taking into account the background and so on...
Definitely, it is not easy to be a referee!
Thanks for your comment and of course dedicated work on this blog. Keep going!
DeleteIt’s nice to read the thorough analysis. It makes me want to study them even more. Refereeing is a beautiful profession and indeed, definitely not easy.
Orsato and Mateu being so different but both on top level... It is fascinating and great to see so many different styles.
Marciniak probably being the most closest to players of all Elite’s. I like it though! Glad he is back.
Turpin – has improved a lot with regard to player management. And he might be not the biggest authority based on length and physics, but it’s cool to see how a ref can compensate that with posture and facial expressions.
Taylor – I like his style a lot, but I couldn’t really define his style in a few words. Maybe he is indeed what we should call ‘middle-grounded’. Somewhere in between.
Makkelie – similar to Taylor, I find it hard to describe his style in a few words. Until today I didn’t know why but I guess you are right: it is the versatile self-presentation and match approach that makes it hard to allocate Makkelie. But for sure a very different personality compared to compatriot Kuipers, who I found more distanced, authoritive, more facial expressions.
Agree about Vincic. I like his style and he has grown a lot the past years. If you compare Vincic to “mentor” Skomina, there is also a BIG difference in style and personality. Somehow you could expect the successor to copy the style of the 'mentor', but that is fortunately not the case.
About taking decisions by being isolated: you can already see Siebert is absolutely capable of that. Really talented. Is he comparable to Brych based on style?
OT
ReplyDeleteHFF announced the changes on the Greek FIFA list for 2022.
New FIFA referees replacing Skoulas and Tzilos are Manouchos and Koumparakis.
New AR replacing Alexeas (who retired) is Psarris.
What is your opinion on why are Diamantopoulos and Tzilos being replaced?
DeleteSkoulas and Tzilos are being replaced. Not Diamantopoulos.
DeleteBoth referees are stuck on 3rd Group without any chances of promotion. Both are over/close to 40 y.o. So the logical thing is to give the badge to younger referees.
Now the problem is that while Manouchos is appointed on our SL very often and seems to have good performances, Koumparakis doesn't have too many appointments are referee. This season he has only 5 appointments on 14 MD's.
Thanks for info, who in Greece has potential to be next Sidiropoulos btw?
DeleteActually, all Greek Super League referees are better than Sidiropoulos.
DeleteFaghani's AR1 has also been replaced.
ReplyDeleteFoltyn AR1, Gittelmann AR2.
AVAR2 now Bruno Pires.
Delete𝑭𝒊𝒏𝒂𝒍𝒊𝒔𝒔𝒊𝒎𝒂! #EURO2020 champions Italy will face #CopaAmerica winners Argentina in London on 1 June 2022!
ReplyDeleteUEFA has announced some special agreements with CONMEBOL.
The referee for that game in my opinion must be from a third and neutral confederation, I would say AFC.
What do you think?
Well, as it seems to be more a friendly than a serious competition there are probably many options.
DeleteMy first thought would be to choose somebody, who narrowly misses out for the WC, e.g. because of the competition in his country - that could be a Mexican or American.
Or just one of the English referees.
Or if it is more a showpiece than anything else, maybe some special choice like Frappart or Irmatov.
As it is friendly/show match, I don't see a problem to appoint UEFA referee in one edition and CONMEBOL referee in the other edition.
DeleteMaybe a good chance to finally appoint Oliver to Italy?
DeleteI fully agree with Philippe; it is a friendly/show match so I guess it doesn't need the bets referee in the world. A WC missed one would be perfect as nice gesture to him, to payback him and to recognize the fact that he was excluded just because a limited number of referee are allowed to be in Qatar.
DeleteAlong the different confederations, in my opinion today CAF is the weakest one, global level is hugely lower than referees in AFC or COMNEBOL and often involved in bribery cases. I think that AFC doesn't deserve more than 2 or 3 slots at FIFA WC
For Italy-Argentina as said by Philippe, Marrufo or a mexican would suit perfectly
Now interesting OFR around 58' and annuled pk, IMO correct, the trailing leg is not naturally left behind.
ReplyDeleteNo penalty is the much better decision and I also like the VAR intervention.
DeleteBut I don't think, that every VAR would have intervened as there is some contact.
Looks like a "classic VAR use" by FIFA.
DeleteOT
ReplyDeleteRussian FIFA referee Aleksey Matyunin (3. category) has overseen Zenit - Rostov in 3rd December. After the game Zenit has turned to Expert Referee Committee (a commitee, who decide if situation in pitch was correct or wrong) to rate Matyunin decision in second Rostov goal. Matyunin was called to OFR and still pointed to center. ERC later said that Matyunin should have cancelled the goal. BUT Matyunin appealed to Russian Football Union as he still believes that the goal should have standed.
So, what do you think about the episode?
Link:
https://twitter.com/matchpremier/status/1466809796473114631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1466809796473114631%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.championat.com%2Ffootball%2Farticle-4533115-zenit-rostov-2-2-obzor-matcha-17-go-tura-rpl-video-golov-3-dekabrya-2021-goda.html
Unbelievable decision onfield and after to deny OFR here. Very doubtful attitude by Matyunin…
DeleteThis is the complete opposite to safe refereeing. IMO best would have been to whistle the 1st foul and issue a YC for SPA. The defender is clearly in a much worse position and the expectation after slowing down the attacker is foul and YC IMO (comentator expect YC aswell). The 2nd possible foul is borderline for me, I would not want a VARint for that situation alone (shoulder to shoulder vs. barge).
DeleteFinnish FA announced the changes on the Finnish FIFA list for 2022:
ReplyDeleteNo changes in referees (M: Al-Emara, Gestranius, Hyytiä, Hämäläinen, Munukka, Viljanen; F: Kulmala, Lehtovaara, Vekkeli). One new AR Juuso Mantere, who replaces no-one. Gestranius gets status of VMO.
Fantastic performance by referee Duje Strukan in Croatian 1st league match Istra-Dinamo. Four correct red cards (three for players and one for assistant coach) in last 10 minutes of the match.
ReplyDeleteOnly two hours after match there is lot of talk in Croatian media about his decisions. Decisions are unpopular, but for me 100% correct.
On this video you can see two red cards for players and one for coach. Penalty was correctly awarded, but there was OFR for mistaken identity. After OFR decision was 100% correct. Also, there was IFK after PK was taken and it was second yellow for attacker.
https://youtu.be/4A7tBwqtTQY
Did anyone watch Qatar-Algeria? I couldn't watch but just read that there was a penalty in 90+17' and the match ended at +19'. Is that correct? What happened?
ReplyDeleteI just checked the critical situations:
DeleteFirst, the 1-1 goal by Qatar in 90+7' was heavily discussed on the field for a potential attacking foul, which stopped the game for 3,5 minutes including an OFR, where Marciniak sticked to his decision. IMO, correct to allow the goal and the OFR was at most justified to sell the important decision - but not really required.
Then the penalty was rather soft, but acceptable IMO. And maybe expectable to give it after a controversial decision on the other side.
The initial injury time was 9 minutes. I can't really comment on whether this and the long extension was justified.
6"12 goal for QAT
Deletebreak
9"48 play on (4'additional time)
14"00 the beginning of the action with a penalty
14"12 penalty
(NB: I watched both SFs today in the background, so my impressions should be taken with sth of a pinch of salt(!!); we should wait for ESR's much better impressions in due course before making a definitive judgement)
ReplyDeleteMy feeling is that both Faghani and Marciniak managed to decrease their respective standings with FIFA after their performances in the Arab Cup semifinal matches today.
The Iranian got through his match relatively okay, but with an ultra-soft (-> wrong, and good for football that we intervene here) penalty corrected by VMO team; lots of small, basic mistakes in the goings-on of the game, in addition to distant/arrogant impression (NOT his WC 2018 style, which worked).
I guess that because of his experience and not-terrible performances at this Arab Cup (** I haven't seen his second game), Faghani will be selected as a big name for the next WC, but I really don't think he had the best month in Qatar tbh.
Marciniak was superb in his group games, but I had the feeling that he made quite a mess of this one, which ultimately finished at ≈ +109:30 (!!).
The performance for the initial ninety minutes looked fine/good, but the Pole seemed a bit, preoccupied maybe(?), with some fouls called after delay and not seeming that sure of himself compared to his group appointments.
I was stunned to see nine minutes added - FIFA must have ordered the refs to clamp down in this regard after Hernández 1H in SYRTUN and Martínez 2H in EGYJOR where both de facto failed in this regard. Again, we should wait for ESR, perhaps detailed analysis proves that 9mins was quite correct.
Qatar score at +97', Algeria are furious, and I'm pretty sure that Marciniak called himself (NOT by Kwiatkowski) to OFR in order to calm them down and 'confirm' the goal.
Actually, there was a foul off-the-ball(!) there, and I think it was a deliberate bump by Qatar player, not a failed impeding like the Matuynin incident above^^, so the technically correct call, I think, would be to disallow the goal.
Having looked for really a few seconds, Marciniak decides for a goal. He is then mobbed (there was already an altercation before that I think) and shows a caution to an Algeria player.
Now closely focusing, the goal stoppage was about 3mins, so Marciniak then should have blown at +102:00. Instead, the game goes on, and he then awards a penalty to Algeria at ≈ +104:30!
Regular readers will know that I strongly dislike penalties where the attacker moves his leg in order to be hit by the defender on the pretence of shielding the ball. In the circumstances, Marciniak's call was sensible though, and TK confirmed it in the VOR.
Algeria score and then, I guess to appease Qatar, the Polish ref signals to everyone that we will have one more minute, during which nothing happened, and then he blows the final whistle. There was, what seemed, a relatively big contretempts at the end after that.
Honestly, this finish was such a mess and left a 'sour taste in the mouth', to be honest. Marciniak didn't feel in control of events at all, and just let the game go on, and on, and on. Maybe detailed analysis will dispel that idea, but on a semantic level, it was hard to watch.
-> On their days, Szymon Marciniak and Alireza Faghani are two of the best referees in the world. I don't think this was their day. With Faghani in AUS (losing motivation maybe? I'm just guessing) and Marciniak's volatile form, one can wonder how much today will count against them in Zürich, or perhaps not.
I watched the full match and 9 minutes added seemed exaggerated, unless football is becoming futsal with timed playing time...
DeleteWith a FIFA Ref Com deputy chairman from Qatar, Marciniak would have been supported for the initially added time that included the Qatari goal, but I am afraid that the penalty kick he awarded in min. 90+17 will seriously affect his World Cup chances in... Qatar. Marciniak is a very good referee, but today his decisions were not very smart in the context mentioned above. Adding only 5 minutes would have avoided all big issues...
Very soft penalty whistled by Taylor in Arsenal-West Ham and also a second yellow card for Coufal
ReplyDeleteYour opinions?
https://mixture.gg/v/61ba59054972e
DeleteIt was a very late decision and not very convincing. Seeing the replay I think a PK is supportable, the first contact is not strong enough, and then the trip happens before the 2nd (and clear) ball contact. SYC also okay, for a reckless tackle or even DOGSO YC, I would have to rewatch it to asses the later. What do you think Del Cerro?
DeleteYes PK is supportable but the ball is also cleared by defender, so I'm not sure I actually like the final decision.
DeleteUgh the theatrics by the player... Lying on the pitch, arms in front of the face. The 'poor' guy :) That's awful. Reminds me of Anthony in BVB-Ajax game (Oliver). I'm afraid the theatrics could have influenced the decision.
@Unknown: This Situation from YB vs. ATA is similiar IMO.
Deletehttps://streamable.com/488ecg
First a glancing touch (not enough) then the trip, then cleanly playing the ball. Is this a PK or not for you?
@David: not the smartest defending, but for me excellent decision by Siebert. In slowmotion you can clearly see that the attacker is looking for the leg of the defender and decides to trip himself and not the other way around (which must be very hard to spot live for a referee). For me quite similar to the Porto-Atletico penalty in MD6 where the same thing happened: attacker uses the stretched leg to trip himself and falls over.
Delete@Unknown: YB vs. ATA I first also thought no PK, but only because the defender still plays the ball (quite belatedly, it has to be said). I cannot see any wrongdoing from the striker, who in my oppinion even tries to lift his leg to 'avoid' the challenge but still gets tripped.
DeleteThe PK in POR-ATM is a bit different in my view. No touch on the ball at all. There it comes down to 'does the striker have the right to shield the ball' for me. A very interesting subject.
OT
ReplyDeleteRussian Football Union announced the list of 2022 FIFA referees:
Main referees:
Sergey Karasev
Sergey Ivanov
Kirill Levnikov
Vitaly Meshkov
Vladimir Moskalyov
Aleksey Matyunin
Vladislav Bezborodov
Pavel Kukuyan
Yevgeny Kukulyak (replacing suspended Sergey Lapochkin)
ARs:
Igor Demeshko
Maksim Gavrilin
Aleksey Lunyov
Roman Usachyov
Valery Danchenko
Yegor Bolkhovitin
Dmitry Mosyakin
Dmitry Safyan
Andrey Vereteshkin
Valentin Murashov
VMOs:
Vitaly Meshkov
Sergey Ivanov
Sergey Karasev
Vladimir Moskalyov
*Vasily Kazartsev (it was decided in autumn, that Kazartsev will be VMO but then happened a game between CSKA and Krasnodar, where Kazartsev was VAR and missed clear penalty and red card. After that he was banned by RFU for a year)
Thank you, Vladislav Bezborodov about to set a record, turning 49 on next month and still confirmed on the list for the whole 2022.
DeleteAlso, I already wrote that a few days ago, I think Levnikov will be the next referee in focus after Karasev, there aren't too many options and personally I'm not convinced by Category 1 Ivanov.
Any talent for the future in your opinion? Question to all Russian readers...
About future referees, there are some young referees in second division, like Yan Bobrovsky, Aleksandr Mashlyakevich, Sergey Tsyganok and they already have VAR licenses. About RPL referees, there isn't much young referees, but Pavel Shadykhanov, Yevgeny Kukulyak or Artyom Chistyakov are next FIFA referees in perspective.
DeleteThis is what the RFU hoped to have. But I doubt one of the referees will remain in the list which was published long time ago. Let's see. The final list is yet to come.
Delete@Anonymous yep, I see now that Kukuyan is missing from the list...
DeletePavel Kukuyan is not in the UEFA list.
DeleteExtremely interesting sequence in Croatian league game Istra - Dinamo, Duje Strukan (UEFA 2nd) was the referee.
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/4A7tBwqtTQY
1)pk + yc
2)VAR possible offside + who made the foul
3) OFR
4) annuled YC (player was in the meantime substituted) , RC issued to a GK
5) pk not taken by the rules - 2ndYC=RC to the attacker
Correct outcome was reached, but I think that the GK foul + DOGSO RC should have been decided without VAR intervention.
DeleteI like Strukan. Maybe his Kim Milton Nielsen-esque height makes things a bit easier for him but I'd look to promote him to First in the short-mid term to take Bebek's spot.
By the way, Bebek successfully appealed against his suspension, it was reduced from 4 to 2 months, so he is already available and can be appointed.
DeleteI am also a fan of Strukan. He was excellent in the hot playoff game Anderlecht-Vitesse this season
DeleteYeah, to be honest I expected at least 2 appointments for him in UECL group stage, but, as I commented earlier, he and also some other possible cat1 candidates were appointed only once.
DeleteI hope that the OFR in Armenia hasnt had strong effects on his overall assessment.
Hi there, I think this blog and it's analysis is amazing. Just one difference of opinion, I see Antony Taylor being rated highly by the experts here. I follow UCL and PL, I see Taylor giving poor decisions week in week out in PL. Any reason why he is rated so highly. I have been following the refs closely since last 2 yrs. My favs currently: Siebert, Makkelie, Cakir, Oliver(EPL only).
ReplyDeleteArsenal v West Ham a prime example of what you are talking about. He's getting slammed by ESPN for his performance.
DeleteTaylor's international games have been very good though.
DeleteYa arsenal vs west ham is just a demo, I have seen him do it many times in the last 4 years and believe he is a very poor ref. Then I see him get praise from the experts in the blog which they are, so I want to know what he brings which we at PL can't see. In general PL referees are poor so I can see he has less competition from England but he seems poor by English standards as well.
DeleteVarious African online publications mention that FIFA recently shortlisted 6 CAF referees (from 8 until the seminars held in October) for the World Cup 2022: https://www.thesouthafrican.com/sport/soccer/first-fifa-now-caf-have-made-a-decision-on-the-future-of-controversial-senegalese-referee/
ReplyDeleteAre you aware of the names shortlisted for all confederations?
The 8 CAF candidates were Ghorbal (ALG), Ndala (COD), Tessema (ETH), Gassama (GAM), Jiyed (MAR), Gomes (RSA), D'Diaye (SEN), Sikazwe (ZAM). According to some sources, the two referees eliminated are Ndala and Jiyed.
DeleteTurkish FA announced 2022 FIFA Refrees:
ReplyDeleteCüneyt Çakır, Ali Palabıyık, Halil Umut Meler, Arda Kardeşler, Abdulkadir Bitigen, Yaşar Kemal Uğurlu, Zorbay Küçük
Huseyin Gokcek is out and Zorbay Kucuk is in. The rest remains the same.
My mistake... Halis Ozkahya is out.
DeleteI didn't watch the full Qatar vs Algeria game yet but here are my observations regarding extra time:
ReplyDelete91:30 - 30secs goal kick by ALG GK (we don't see but maybe he was warned that the time will be added?)
92:55 - 40secs minor injury without medical treatment
96:12 - 3min30secs goal, OFR, dealing with dissents
I think that for goal and subsequent incidents there should be three minutes added. For the minor injury and time-wasting there could be optional one minute added. That gives us three-four minutes to be added to 99:50 when the play is resumed. The game should be then finished at 104:00 at the latest.
There were two GREAT occasions for the final whistle. Goal kick at 103:50 (most likely Marciniak wanted to whistle at full 104:00) and throw-in at 104:00. As the throw-in was for attacking (and frustered with the referee) Algeria, most likely Marciniak wanted to give them last chance before the extra time and that was the moment when he lost the self-preservation instinct.
It's worth mentioning that Polish referees brilliantly compensate the lost time. The thing perfectly teached here by excellent former head of referees, Zbigniew Przesmycki. So it's not a surprise that a Polish referee adds so many minutes. That Marciniak allowed that last action to go was just an individual case here. I'm sure he wanted to avoid huge protests of Algerians who were already really upset because of 9 minutes of added time, Qatar's equalizer, confirmation of goal after OFR and would be even more furious if this last action would have been stopped by the referee.
Ah, I just see he added further one minute after the penalty execution. That was too much. The game should be stopped immediately after the penalty.
DeleteTnx for the report, I was really curious because I read in the media that it was unjustifiably long in the end. Do you know if the initial added time was justified?
DeleteFormer polish international referee Rafał Rostkowski explains on sport.tvp.pl, that all crucial decisions were CORRECT. Breaks during the match took more (!!!) than 9 minutes, so the initial added time was fully justified.
DeleteLink: https://www.google.com/amp/s/sport.tvp.pl/57485097/arab-cup-i-szymon-marciniak-w-roli-glownej-czy-mial-racje/amp
For me very brave decisions taken by Marciniak, which show that he is a world class referee.
New UEFA categories are updated:
ReplyDeleteSiebert, Jovanovic, Schärer, Massa, Meler, Letexier are now in the Elite.
Big congratulations to my turkish compatriot Halil Umut Meler.
There is no longer a third categorie.
source?
DeleteThanks for this update.
DeleteDo you have the chance to send the documents at blog's mail?
law5blog[at]gmail.com
I confirm. One of the name is a good friend of mine :)
DeleteWow, big news; I' can't wait to see the full list
DeleteSo, if this is true:
DeleteMassa>Guida is a bit surprising judging by these last months. Also it was very expected, but IMO undeserved promotion of Jovanovic.
Along with Sibert, Jovanovic deserved the most promotion. Shame on you for the comment!!!
DeleteIMO Jovanovic will became a TOP soon. He's a candidate for WC
DeleteRe: the Taylor clip above at https://mixture.gg/v/61ba59054972e, I think PK is the right call because yes, the defender first makes contact with the ball, but the ball isn't cleared and the offensive player would have had an opportunity to play it again if not for the contact by the defender. Re: the 19 minutes of extra time in the Arab Cup, it shows that the system is broken. Whereas basketball is keeping track of its time down to the tenth of second, extra time in football is just a very rough estimate without any transparency. Just as a bad car accident may highlight a dangerous safety defect in all models of an automobile, +19 shows that extra time should be scraped in favor of the clock being stopped for injuries, goals, and cards. It would drastically change the game, but it would also make the time keeping more accurate and fair.
ReplyDeleteStopping the clock for injuries, goals and cards would make sense.
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ReplyDeleteKuĺbakoŭ, Oliver, Taylor, Bastien, Letexier, Turpin, Aytekin, Siebert, Stieler, Zwayer, Sidirópoulos, Grinfeld, Massa, Orsato, Gözübüyük, Makkelie, Marciniak, Soares Dias, Hațegan, Kovacs, Karasyov, Collum, Jovanović, Kružliak, Vinčič, del Cerro Grande, Gil Manzano, Mateu Lahoz, Sánchez Martínez, Schärer, Çakır, Meler
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ReplyDeleteJorgji, Lechner, Schüttengruber, Weinberger, Ağayev, Lambrechts, Visser, Peljto, Kabakov, Bebek, Jović, Strukan, Kehlet, Kavanagh, Pawson, Tohver, Gestranius, Brisard, Buquet, Kruashvili, Osmers, Stegemann, Bognár, Vad, Reinshreiber, Di Bello, Guida, Mariani, Treimanis, Rumšas, Dabanović, Stavrev, Eskås, Frankowski, Raczkowski, Stefański, Veríssimo, Martins, Pinheiro, Feșnic, Petrescu, Ivanov, Beaton, Madden, Walsh, Glova, Jug, Obrenovič, de Burgos Bengoetxea, Hernández Hernández, Al-Hakim, Ekberg, Nyberg, Palabıyık, Aranovs'kyy, Boyko
Source?
DeleteIf that's true, then
DeletePromoted to Elite: Letexier (FRA), Siebert (GER), Massa (ITA), Gozubuyuk (NED), Jovanovic (SRB), Sánchez Martínez (ESP), Schärer (SUI), Meler (TUR)
Promoted to First: Weinberger (AUT), Lambrechts (BEL), Strukan (CRO), Kruashvili (GEO), Osmers (GER), Stegemann (NED), Di Bello (ITA), Eskas (NOR), Pinheiro (POR), Fesnic (ROU), Walsh (SCO), Obrenovic (SVN), De Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP), Al-Hakim (SWE)
You are right but Stegemann is from Germany.
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ReplyDeleteHamiti, Xhaja, Teixeira, Ghaltakhchyan, Hovhannisyan, Nalbandyan, Altmann, Ciochirca, Gishamer, Jäger, Cabbarov, Məsiyev, Dzmitryjeŭ, Kourgheli, Šymusik, Boucaut, Laforge, Lardot, Van Driessche, Verboomen, Bilbija, Kaljanac, Chinkov, Davidov, Draganov, Popov, Stoyanov, Bel, Pajač, Zebec, Dimitríou, Neokléous, Sotiríou, Theoulí, Berka, Klíma, Machálek, Orel, Pechanec, Petřík, Burchardt, Kjærsgaard, Kristoffersen, Krogh, Putros, Sundberg, Attwell, Bankes, Coote, England, Madley, Tierney, Frischer, Jaanovits, á Høvdanum, Troleis, Al-Emara, Hämäläinen, Hyytiä, Munukka, Viljanen, Abed, Delajod, Millot, Pignard, Kikacheishvili, Kvirikashvili, Dankert, Dingert, Jablonski, Schlager, Barcelo, Diamandópoulos, Fotiás, Koumbarákis, Manoúchos, Papadópoulos, Papapétrou, Berke, Bogár, Farkas, Karakó, Árnason, Jónasson, Kristjánsson, Þórarinsson, Frid, Fuxman, Leibovitz, Levi, Chiffi, Fabbri, Irrati, Maresca, Pairetto, Kýchın, Qarabaev, Saxı, Sarıev, Kastrati, Kasumi, Nuza, Anufrijevs, Spasjonņikovs, Lukjančukas, Valikonis, Durieux, Kopriwa, Sabotic, Barbara, De Gabriele, Farrugia, Farrugia Cann, Banari, Muntean, Orlic, Bošković, Savović, Higler, Kamphuis, Kooij, Lindhout, van der Eijk, Jakimovski, Stojčevski, Davey, Marshall, McNabb, Robinson, Hagenes, Hansen, Kringstad, Moen, Saggi, Steen, Jakubik, Musiał, Sylwestrzak, Miguel Nogueira, Luís Godinho, António Nobre, Gustavo Correia, Vítor Ferreira, Doyle, Harvey, Hennessy, McLaughlin, Barbu, Bîrsan, Chivulete, Bezborodov, Kukulyak, Levnikov, Matyunin, Meshkov, Moskalyov, Zani, Clancy, Munro, Robertson, Lukić, Milanović, Minaković, Simović, Dohál, Kráľovič, Očenáš, Kajtazovič, Šmajc, Cuadra Fernández, Martínez Munuera, Munuera Montero, Soto Grado, Karlsson, Ladebäck, Pandzic, Sjöberg, Cibelli, Dudic, Fähndrich, San, Schnyder, Tschudi, Bitigen, Kardeşler, Küçük, Uğurlu, Balakin, Derevins'kyy, Kopiyevs'kyy, Romanov, Shurman, Griffith, Jenkins, Owen
So, they got rid of Third Cat, indeed.
DeleteSuch an undeserved promotion for Jovanović
ReplyDeleteFinal: TUN-ALG
ReplyDelete(18 December 2021)
Al Bayt Stadium
Referee: Daniel SIEBERT
AR 1: Rafael FOLTYN
AR 2: Christian GITTELMANN
4th: Matt CONGER
VAR: Christian DINGERT