10th minute Heavy, reckless and late tackle which was slightly from behind by USA attacker. Good opportunity for Escobar to show an early card much like Frappart this morning. But in typical Escobar and 2019 Gold Cup style. Only a verbal warning and "calm down hand gestures".
22 minutes in and the game is getting chippy. Escobar is complacent, trying to talk his way out of everything. And of course over using what I detest the most. The calm down, calm down hand gestures.
How many times is he going to ignore CLEAR cases of players shooting the ball at least 20 meters away way after the whistle? I have counted 5 times in the 1st half. Whistle, then they shoot the ball away to prevent a quick free kick for the opponent.
@Unknown if a player decides to commit an act of Violent Conduct, he's very much done his part in helping decide the game. The man disadvantage would be entirely his fault. A referee who ignores an incident like this is the one who is not letting the players decide the game by their actions.
47th minute and we have the first mass confrontation of the 2nd half. Guardado (MEX) in direct sight of the referee aggressively grabs a USA player by the throat. Escobar decides to use yet more words and "calm downs" but nothing more.
Prior to that, MEX 15 struck USA 17 in the face with his hand, definitely nothing "negligible" about the force used. By rule that has to be an automatic red card, but this referee (like far too many others) seems to not care very much about what the rules say because of "muh Game Management."
If "let them play, keep it fast, physical, and keep the cards in the pockets at all costs" was the game plan, then he's doing just about as good of a job as a referee could possibly do under those restrictive instructions. But the rules are the rules, in my opinion the referee needs to enforce them first and foremost.
P.L. Collina talk till no end about the Laws being written and about how the referee's must enforce them. And how the Laws are the same in all four corners of the world. But then we come across this type of officiating. So who are we supposed to believe? Who are we supposed to emulate?
I hate seeing this sort of "game management" theory trickling down into grassroots football. Don't get me wrong - game management in terms of body language, communication, verbal warnings, etc. is important. But game management should not dictate what the call is in the first place, that is backwards thinking.
Let me give an example. I was refereeing a game a few months ago and one team was clearly more frustrated than the other, because they had been called for more fouls as they had been the dirtier team. At half time, an experienced referee I was working with asked me "can you try to find a 'game management foul' in favor of the frustrated team in order to calm them down?" To me, this sounds like he just wants me to make a "make up call;" to give one team a different line for a foul than the other team gets. That's unfair and unethical, in my opinion. The calls have to come first, and then whatever happens as a result of that you can try to manage. But if one team wants to get frustrated and pick up stupid cards because they can't stand getting called out for their shit, it's not my job to accommodate them.
I'm happy to see that you showed "backbone" and didn't waver in your approach. Sadly a FIFA Referee (Qin Liang) at the Women's World Cup allowed herself to be bullied by a whiny team into disregarding the LOTG.
This referee is far too lenient for my liking. 15 Black just struck 17 Red in the face with his hand, that's supposed to be an automatic red card. I can only hope he simply didn't see it, but I suspect he did see it and chose to not show any card because "who needs the rules when you have GaMe MaNaGeMeNt?"
I watch soccer to see a fair game not one sided game. I have watched and played soccer for 42 years. I was taught by a German goalkeeper and they taught me to cheer for the good plays on either side - not bad plays allowed by refs.
I actually disagree with you here. If a referee is going to try to get through a game like this with minimal cards, he is doing a good job managing the emotions through things like his body language and attitude. He's shown confidence and firmness in every way except by actually enforcing misconduct (which yes, is a big deal. I'm just saying I think his body language has been good).
I don't care what the ref wants, jumping on someone's back and putting hands on a players neck in front of the ref and no call! Appears like a payoff to the ref as I see no other reason for his reffing.
If ref wants to justify the level of attitude and arrogance, then he should make sure he is doing his job and controlling the game. With Mex player grabbing US player by the throat happening right in front of him and no card, it's clear this ref is garbage.
Mexico substitution. The player doesn't take the shortest route off the pitch. As per the new IFAB directive. Instead, he is escorted by the referee chit chatting all the way to the 4th official.
To Escobar's credit, the second half didn't devolve into a mess like I would have expected it to, given the lack of discipline. He did as well as any referee can do to control a US - Mexico game without using cards.
Still, I philosophically disagree with this approach. Players deserved the cards, it is the referee's job to give them. Even if he controls the game, his job is to make the right calls, which includes giving cards where appropriate. If all you care about is match control, he did a fine job... but it is important not to forget that actually enforcing the Laws of the Game correctly is the referee's primary job.
His performance will be satisfiying in all the media and in general public ,but I have to say that I was embarassed by what I saw from Escobar tonight. Imo,worse than Tobar (just my opinion). Disciplinary control was 0,quite literraly as he didnt show single card in a match that had several confrontations,several pretty nasty fouls,time wasting and so much complaining directly to him. Not everything can be card of course,but everything verbal warnings?Come on. 3 minutes of added time... So much timewasting,and he shows 3 minutes...I was speechless.
There were other incidents as well like SPA in 84th min.,Altidore foul in 11th min.,confrontation to start 2nd half snd otgers.Just werbal warnings and that's all. He was very lucky that game didnt got even dirtier,but I dont that luck will follow him if he continues to manage games like this.
It is pointless to give out "fair play" awards at tournaments. Pointless because it seems that it's been decided and accepted that applying the LOTG has become optional. Just as pointless is ranking teams based on "disciplinary points". Especially when you've got referee's like Mr. Escobar who blatantly refuses to use cards.
Anybody who has time to make a compilation of all the ignored yellow cards from the game?
For example:
The reckless challenges Mass confrontation Other confrontations between players Delaying the restart by shooting the ball away after every whistle Dissent by words and gestures
I take Tobar any day over this one. Total refusal to use cards for whatever happens, paired with an arrogant player management. I can't have respect for such refereeing. Missing VC right in front of you...
If this poisonous Busaccaism is what the ref coms around the world like to see, we all are better off of not watching.
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ReplyDeleteWho else on the blog is watching?
Bad tackle by Altidore,shoud have been booked .
ReplyDelete10th minute
ReplyDeleteHeavy, reckless and late tackle which was slightly from behind by USA attacker. Good opportunity for Escobar to show an early card much like Frappart this morning.
But in typical Escobar and 2019 Gold Cup style. Only a verbal warning and "calm down hand gestures".
Too much leniency is never good.
ReplyDelete22 minutes in and the game is getting chippy.
ReplyDeleteEscobar is complacent, trying to talk his way out of everything. And of course over using what I detest the most. The calm down, calm down hand gestures.
How many times is he going to ignore CLEAR cases of players shooting the ball at least 20 meters away way after the whistle? I have counted 5 times in the 1st half. Whistle, then they shoot the ball away to prevent a quick free kick for the opponent.
ReplyDeleteHe hasn't even bothered to talk to those players to put a stop to it.
DeleteThe guy’s doing a good job. Letting the players decide the outcome....
DeleteIf the players are to decide the game. Why is he needed?
Delete@Unknown if a player decides to commit an act of Violent Conduct, he's very much done his part in helping decide the game. The man disadvantage would be entirely his fault. A referee who ignores an incident like this is the one who is not letting the players decide the game by their actions.
DeleteThe first 45 mins are in the books.
ReplyDeleteMario Escobar showing why he was surprisingly chosen by the CONCACAF Ref Comm for this Final.
He's been permissive, overly lenient, has shown no cards and has allowed the players to do as they wish.
Tonight showed why Uefa has best referees.
ReplyDeleteSadly we've got better than Escobar in CONCACAF. But as I've said multiple times before. His style checks all the boxes for the Ref Comm.
Delete47th minute and we have the first mass confrontation of the 2nd half. Guardado (MEX) in direct sight of the referee aggressively grabs a USA player by the throat. Escobar decides to use yet more words and "calm downs" but nothing more.
ReplyDeletePrior to that, MEX 15 struck USA 17 in the face with his hand, definitely nothing "negligible" about the force used. By rule that has to be an automatic red card, but this referee (like far too many others) seems to not care very much about what the rules say because of "muh Game Management."
DeleteIf "let them play, keep it fast, physical, and keep the cards in the pockets at all costs" was the game plan, then he's doing just about as good of a job as a referee could possibly do under those restrictive instructions. But the rules are the rules, in my opinion the referee needs to enforce them first and foremost.
P.L. Collina talk till no end about the Laws being written and about how the referee's must enforce them. And how the Laws are the same in all four corners of the world. But then we come across this type of officiating. So who are we supposed to believe? Who are we supposed to emulate?
DeleteI hate seeing this sort of "game management" theory trickling down into grassroots football. Don't get me wrong - game management in terms of body language, communication, verbal warnings, etc. is important. But game management should not dictate what the call is in the first place, that is backwards thinking.
DeleteLet me give an example. I was refereeing a game a few months ago and one team was clearly more frustrated than the other, because they had been called for more fouls as they had been the dirtier team. At half time, an experienced referee I was working with asked me "can you try to find a 'game management foul' in favor of the frustrated team in order to calm them down?" To me, this sounds like he just wants me to make a "make up call;" to give one team a different line for a foul than the other team gets. That's unfair and unethical, in my opinion. The calls have to come first, and then whatever happens as a result of that you can try to manage. But if one team wants to get frustrated and pick up stupid cards because they can't stand getting called out for their shit, it's not my job to accommodate them.
I'm happy to see that you showed "backbone" and didn't waver in your approach. Sadly a FIFA Referee (Qin Liang) at the Women's World Cup allowed herself to be bullied by a whiny team into disregarding the LOTG.
DeleteThis referee is far too lenient for my liking. 15 Black just struck 17 Red in the face with his hand, that's supposed to be an automatic red card. I can only hope he simply didn't see it, but I suspect he did see it and chose to not show any card because "who needs the rules when you have GaMe MaNaGeMeNt?"
ReplyDeleteHe definitely saw it. Why do you think he pulled those two players aside for a pointless chat.
DeleteI watch soccer to see a fair game not one sided game. I have watched and played soccer for 42 years. I was taught by a German goalkeeper and they taught me to cheer for the good plays on either side - not bad plays allowed by refs.
DeleteBeyond Escobar's style. I can't stand his ARROGANT posture, demeanor and attitude towards the players.
ReplyDeleteI actually disagree with you here. If a referee is going to try to get through a game like this with minimal cards, he is doing a good job managing the emotions through things like his body language and attitude. He's shown confidence and firmness in every way except by actually enforcing misconduct (which yes, is a big deal. I'm just saying I think his body language has been good).
DeleteWhen he's been wrong and chosen the macho tough guy look to justify his shortcomings. It makes him look ridiculous.
DeleteOnly reason I can imagine is he wants 90 minutes to go with 0 cards.
ReplyDeleteThat's lovely if the match allows it. This match certainly hasn't been one for no cards.
Deleteinsane to justify no cards because ref wanted it...
DeleteI don't care what the ref wants, jumping on someone's back and putting hands on a players neck in front of the ref and no call! Appears like a payoff to the ref as I see no other reason for his reffing.
ReplyDeleteIf ref wants to justify the level of attitude and arrogance, then he should make sure he is doing his job and controlling the game. With Mex player grabbing US player by the throat happening right in front of him and no card, it's clear this ref is garbage.
ReplyDeleteLooked like SPA to me in the ~84th minute, unsurprisingly no card tonight...
ReplyDeleteMexico substitution. The player doesn't take the shortest route off the pitch. As per the new IFAB directive. Instead, he is escorted by the referee chit chatting all the way to the 4th official.
ReplyDelete90 +2 Yet more verbal and demonstrative dissent that the referee is blind and deaf to.
ReplyDeleteToday 7/7/2019, two male FIFA referee's were made to look amateur by a female FIFA referee.
ReplyDeleteBravo Ms. Frappart.
To Escobar's credit, the second half didn't devolve into a mess like I would have expected it to, given the lack of discipline. He did as well as any referee can do to control a US - Mexico game without using cards.
ReplyDeleteStill, I philosophically disagree with this approach. Players deserved the cards, it is the referee's job to give them. Even if he controls the game, his job is to make the right calls, which includes giving cards where appropriate. If all you care about is match control, he did a fine job... but it is important not to forget that actually enforcing the Laws of the Game correctly is the referee's primary job.
His performance will be satisfiying in all the media and in general public ,but I have to say that I was embarassed by what I saw from Escobar tonight.
ReplyDeleteImo,worse than Tobar (just my opinion).
Disciplinary control was 0,quite literraly as he didnt show single card in a match that had several confrontations,several pretty nasty fouls,time wasting and so much complaining directly to him.
Not everything can be card of course,but everything verbal warnings?Come on.
3 minutes of added time...
So much timewasting,and he shows 3 minutes...I was speechless.
There were other incidents as well like SPA in 84th min.,Altidore foul in 11th min.,confrontation to start 2nd half snd otgers.Just werbal warnings and that's all.
He was very lucky that game didnt got even dirtier,but I dont that luck will follow him if he continues to manage games like this.
It is pointless to give out "fair play" awards at tournaments. Pointless because it seems that it's been decided and accepted that applying the LOTG has become optional. Just as pointless is ranking teams based on "disciplinary points". Especially when you've got referee's like Mr. Escobar who blatantly refuses to use cards.
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ReplyDeleteAnybody who has time to make a compilation of all the ignored yellow cards from the game?
ReplyDeleteFor example:
The reckless challenges
Mass confrontation
Other confrontations between players
Delaying the restart by shooting the ball away after every whistle
Dissent by words and gestures
I take Tobar any day over this one. Total refusal to use cards for whatever happens, paired with an arrogant player management. I can't have respect for such refereeing. Missing VC right in front of you...
ReplyDeleteIf this poisonous Busaccaism is what the ref coms around the world like to see, we all are better off of not watching.
Agree 100%.
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ReplyDeletefew weeks ago i left some pains and i want to the hospital my doc told me i had HPV about 1 year and i need to start the treatment early he gave me some medicine to be taking and i told him no i will not because i hated taking medicine when i wont not see cure for the purpose after i got home i started getting worried searching for strong advice and i found valid natural treatment online lot people says they got HPV cure from Dr agaba and i email Dr agaba 3 days passed i purchase his cure online some weeks after the process taking his treatment i got cured i went for checkup twice after taking the natural treatment from the herbalist called Dragaba and i tested negative contact him on email Dragabasolutionhome@gmail.com or WhatApp: +2349074536486
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