2022-23 UEFA Champions League, Play-Offs, Second Legs, games to be played on 24 August 2022.
24 August 2022
21:00 CET - Stadion Maksimir, Zagreb
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) - Bodø/Glimt (NOR)
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Xavier Estrada (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drago Kos (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Edgars Pukinsks (LVA)
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Xavier Estrada (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drago Kos (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Edgars Pukinsks (LVA)
21:00 CET - Senol Gunes Spor Kompleksi Yeni Stadyum, Trabzon
Trabzonspor (TUR) - Copenhagen (DEN)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Manuel Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Danilo Filacchione (ITA)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Manuel Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Danilo Filacchione (ITA)
21:00 CET - PSV Stadion, Eindhoven
PSV (NED) - Rangers (SCO)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Bakar Jordania (GEO)
All three games need very experienced referees. Some tight games and scorelines are expected.
ReplyDeleteGood appointments for Mateu Lahoz and Marciniak.
No Gozubuyuk = more Makkelie?
I'm totally fine with that, as the latter is a much better referee than the former. On the other hand, it worries me that Makkelie has no serious competition in his country at all.
What happened to Serdar?
DeleteIt seems he failed the LOTG test in Frankfurt. Very bad timing, cause I expected him to get at least one top game this autumn - the selected World Cup referees are normally a bit more protected by committee. Serdar should blame himself, and just himself. This was a good chance.
DeleteWe can expect Letexier, Zwayer, Massa, Soares Dias, Jovanović, Gil Manzano, Sánchez Martínez and Schärer to get top games in group stage UCL.
Deletehttps://www.theifab.com/de ;)
ReplyDeleteThe other four test failees (including fitness) should now be clear.
And good luck to Mateu, Makkelie and Marciniak - TOP games in the hands of Europe's best referees.
DeleteWho?
DeleteCan’t see. Who are they?
DeleteSiebert?
DeleteSiebert had a EL Play-off on thursday, so it's obviously not him.
DeleteCant see, which four names?
Deletewe must count out aytekin (career-end), cakir (career-end), hategan (injured) and karasev (russia). so all in all i see at least two, rather three, new elite-spots up for grabs in group stage. who are your main contenders for the spots of aytekin and cakir? turkey has nobody in 1st. germany has stegemann and osmers.
Delete@mikael: who failed the test? please dont torture us and let us know ;-) we could do the countig ourselves, but we know you already did it...
correction, turkey has ali palabiyik...already 41yrs...compared to recent promotions rather too old, right?
DeleteSerdar G, Veríssimo with injured Guida/Meler already mentioned.
DeleteDeniz Aytekin attended Summer course, which ran from 27th to 29th July. His retirement from international arena was announced on the 28th. I wonder what the final straw... :)
About prospects: one Elite should be enough for Turkey now Erzik is off the scene, Palabiyik isn't good enough, I guess they wait for pseudo-talented Kücük after Meler. Stegemann vs. Osmers in GER but I think the latter has probably already won...
Deleteprobably a good guess on aytekin, having failed and covering it up by a "noble move" to give younger german talent a chance...he is one good salesman...sadly his technical accuracy is still poor. reminding already of manuel graefe in his last years, aytekin still has 5-6 good years in bundesliga and is running to the monitor and missing cards like crazy...saturday's top flight he missed a crystal clear yc-foul after 10mins and then another easy penalty on werner only two minutes later...not a great loss for uefa...his style is highly appreciated by bundesliga clubs. but that doesnt help when you have var-intervention almost every match...
DeleteI feel sorry for Kovacs :/
ReplyDeleteHe'll be back in the group stages.
DeleteWhat happened yo Kovacs???
DeleteMakkelie got another play-off match… Anyway, the 2 matches in Turkey and Netherlands need hardcore experienced referees
ReplyDeleteIn first PO-game he replaced Kovacs
DeleteAh yes I see
Delete(Continue) hence the appointment of Makkelie and Marciniak
ReplyDeleteOT: Portugal Liga 2. Referee : Luis Miguel Godinho FIFA
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/cje8lc
First time seeing something like this during a penalty kick. Can we consider this "freeze" as a feinting ? IMO is a good goal even it is a strange PK
Absolutely regular execution, there is nothing on the LOTG about that, the player is allowed to keep a leg raised before the shot.
Delete@Chefren, there is only a problem about that ...
DeleteIf the player make an action with his feet, as he want to shoot the ball, and stop before touching the ball, the GK will be send in a wrongh direction and this is an easy penalty (after that).
Is this action against the spirit of the game ? Yes.
Is this action against law 14 in the law of the game 22/23? No.
I noticed that Dutch referees are almost never assigned in Turkey. Björn Kuipers just once in 2011, for Makkelie the first time.
ReplyDeleteA coincidence? Or perhaps it was avoided on purpose; both Dutch refs are/were coached by mr Uilenberg who had a job at Turkish FA?
Diplomatic relations between the two countries were for a while quite difficult. Also,Gozobuyuk can't be assigned there. Also, there are of course plenty other teams. Dutch referees are also not often assigned to Polish teams. Mainly cause the two top-referees do Chanpions League. I think it's rather a coincidence.
DeleteThanks RikB. I thought it was particular. Kuipers/Makkelie did many games in Greece and therefore could be sensible choices for the hot atmospheres in Turkey as well.
DeleteVery controversial incident from Atalanta - Milan.
ReplyDeleteYC for reckless challenge by Maresca supported by VAR Valeri.
Video:
https://streamable.com/03eay4
For most of the people this is RC.
The management of SFP in Italy with VAR has been always an issue, never solved. All referees and VARs act according to their styles.
In this case I think that another VAR would have intervened, while Valeri in my opinion applied the very strict UEFA criteria: contact on the leg with studs but force not used. Is that enough to say that it wasn't a clear RC? Since there are many opinions against the call by Italian people, I think that something should be done to improve. At first Rizzoli and now Rocchi, nobody was able to find some consistency with SFPs and VAR.
I know it is difficult, but surely there isn't any guideline, given that all VARs make different choices...
Well in some situations he surprised me during this match very pleasently,in some he surprised me negatively.
DeleteLike I dont know why he booked Rebic at all, maybe reaction and scream of ATA player influenced that decision.
Then he was good at preventing and solving Theo vs Djimsiti conflict,that was great to see.
But again problems with Milan,we all remember his last AC Milan match was also problematic(vs Roma)so I dont think he'll be getting Milan matches for some time.
The rest of his performance was quite good (unless only one missed foul), perfect control of the game, it was the same Maresca who ended the previous season. I don't think that this incident will create further problems in appointing him with Milan in future, but surely Rocchi used a wild card in this case, by making this choice at the beginning of the season.
DeleteI want also to say that the old Maresca we knew would have sent off the player with a RC without doubts, now he has changed his style, but I think that in this particular case he didn't see the point of contact and decided for a yellow card, as standard reckless tackle. In case, this would make the missed VAR intervention even more serious, if you ask me...
And to add,another RC in French Ligue 2 . 😀
DeleteSo far so good Oliver. Let's see the second half.
ReplyDeleteHe fortunately avoided the controversy that would have came with Martinez blocking an own goal with his arm! Twitter would have been digging into that IFAB presentation about a teammate accidentally playing the ball into their unnaturally placed arm.
DeleteIt is better that it was not the case. A great onside call now by the AR !
DeleteNo card these days for throwing away the corner flag while celebrating a goal?
DeleteIf the goalscorer don't break the corner flag and only bent it, then no card it's ok imo.
DeleteHe literally grabbed it and threw it away towards the stands. I don't think that's okay.
DeleteWhat an embarrassing dive by Bruno Fernandes :)) He really hoped he could get a penalty? :))
DeleteTo be fair what dive is not embarrassing. But good call. But not good when the 2-1 was scored. Oliver was way too passive and was there too late when they fought for the ball.
Delete@Anonymous 22:32 Yes, indeed, it should have been a YC for Rashford. I missed it live, but I just saw the goal again.
DeleteDo we really still need Mateu after his controversial performances in his last two European EL games last season?
ReplyDeleteSo know better than Uefa referees committee.
DeleteIf they did not think he was good referee.
Then they would not appointment him
Because there is a lot of excellent referees on the list.
Do we really still need DelCerroGrande after his controversial performances in his last two European EL games last season
DeleteVitor Melo Pereira with Danny Makkelie, is this particular in the sense that Makkelie is "projected" for something (maybe final UCL) or is this just normal?
ReplyDeleteWho else will do the UCL final? Taylor is the only other name if there are no English clubs.
DeleteTbh I don't see anything special.
DeleteMakkelie is (normally) a good appointment for this match because of his experience in heated atmospheres. The same applies to the Portuguese - who was the head of Greek refereeing and therefore a logical(?) observer for this match IMO.
@JackS: Antony Taylor for sure, if there are no English teams present in the final.
DeleteMarciniak is a name as well.
RFEF just published a modified appointment, in which the 4th official is Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea and the main VAR is Hernández Hernández. It has not been changed in UEFA's website, so I don't know which is the correct one.
ReplyDeleteIs not the first time that RFRF´s Twitter is publishing wrong appointments. It is strange that UEFA is modifying a VAR and 4O, to be honest.
DeleteMa Ning, one of the 2022 FIFA World Cup referees, was deliberately knocked over by Henan' player Henrique Dourado in the match between Wuhan and Henan on 21 August.
ReplyDeletehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iAo2FhNkAoE
Isn't that an assault, further severe sanctions for sure awaiting for him. The Chinese league have VAR but it seems his decision was influenced by FO/AR1?
DeleteI don't know what got into him, assaulting referees is just killing his own career.
DeletePGMOL have announced that Howard Webb will be taking over from Mike Riley. Start date to be announced
ReplyDeletePoor decision from AR1 in Eindhoven
ReplyDeleteIt was no offside, agreed. But opponents running in opposite directions, especially when not close together, are not that easy to detect.
DeleteMateu, penalty missed, handball. Min 27
ReplyDeleteNo. It touched player's body first, then hand. By UEFA that's not penalty.
DeleteMinute 27' in Zagreb we can agree that it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake, not a 100% punishable handball, previous touch with another part of body, but still very open arm (a penalty call would have been more than supportable). However, in such situations I really don't know which of the two can be described as the best decision.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. As this is not the first such situation in these qualifying rounds, I think that it is definitely high time for football authorities to clarify these situations more precisely. Reading the comments in the previous threads, it is clear that such handballs cause a lot of confusion.
DeleteRight now on Croatian television, refereeing commentator Mario Strahonja stated that this was a clear penalty for him, mainly because the arm was so outstretched it nullified the previous touch on the body.
How would you assess this off-the-ball incident from Makkelie's first half?
ReplyDeletehttps://streamvi.com/watch/1661371114
I think correct decision by Van Boekel to stay silent, one can't have the evidence of a violent conduct. We can surely say that the behavior of Danish player was very aggressive at least in two circumstances, but you can connect these actions to the movements that players made before, so...
DeleteNot to pick on you at all, Chefren, but I think it's noteworthy we now reflexively go to what the VAR should have done, rather than what the referee should have done.
DeleteIt's a missed foul at minimum, right? And a borderline reckless/brutal elbow. And a kick-out. There are three components that should/could cause a referee to blow his whistle for something other than an injury, yet Makkelie doesn't recognize any of it and stops play only because they player went down.
Again, not to critique you. But I think we help feed the mentality that refereeing is all about VAR now when we do this. Whether or not van Boekel should have stayed silent (and I tend to agree with you that he was correct to do so), the actual assessment as a referee here is that Makkelie should have whistled and given a yellow card at minimum, right?
I think, by the video, that Makkelie haven't seen the foul.
DeleteIt was an information from Van Boekel (my opinion) and as a result VAR have decided to not intervent.
Yes, too much focus on VAR in my answers, Usaref. ;) I understand your point. Regarding the possible decision by Makkelie, yes, no more than YC, one should also say that it was convenient to give advantage immediately after the foul, if not sure about what exactly happened.
DeleteMy actual assessment (without speaking about VAR) is that Makkelie is not so much to blame for. If the referee focuses on the tackle, on the feet, below (as I did when I saw the video the first time) it’s not that particular that he isn’t able to properly assess the elbow, and the kick out only happens after Trabzonspor continues play and the ball is away. And to be honest I don’t see the 3rd component.
DeleteYes, agreed, if he would have been able to assess the totality of the action, a YC should have been awarded.
It starts with a duel, two sides. One is pulling, the other tackling. Then both players fall and the Copenhagen player is lying in uncomfortable position and trying to get up. He isn’t doing anything deliberate there or hurts his opponent on purpose imo.
DeleteBtw don’t react on usaref. For some reason he is always critizing Makkelie. In a nitpickery way. Not his fav referee I guess
DeleteA “reckless” elbow? I needed to watch it five times, a slowmotion and to pause the video to see what you meant. How on earth can you blame the ref for missing that :D and talking about a potential VC? You guys are really exaggerating sometimes. Funny. Have a good day.
DeleteMarciniak letting the game flow very well in Eindhoven, all about the football - good to see
ReplyDeleteDanny Makkelie with poor beginning of second half. Small advantage to Trabzonspor
ReplyDelete48' - supportable caution to the visitors for DtR (+ interesting manner)
Delete60' - missed freekick and caution to the hosts for SPA blocking
Tough for Copenhagen to be one player down.
ReplyDeleteIf you don’t have anything sensible to contribute you’d better keep quiet.
Delete69' Penalty appeal, I agree with Makkelie, not enough for whistling. Good decision, then a few seconds after a very rare case of the Dutch quite angry with players :) it doesn't happen too often. Very big tension in this game, I can understand why.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Excellent firmness displayed by the Dutchman in this sequence.
Delete(about being angry: wait until you see 48' booking! :D)
But I have to give him. He has some great calls about "hollywood"
ReplyDeleteMarciniak = Howard Webb
ReplyDeleteKaraté foul = YC
88.
Everything is clear ;))
good job Marciniak in Eindhoven
ReplyDeleteGreat performance by Marciniak 👏🏼
ReplyDeleteWhat a game by Marciniak! Amazing performance!!!
ReplyDeleteHaven’t seen the Rangers game. Marciniak whistled 18 fouls (not that much) and issued 8 YC’s. He chose a strict disciplinary line?
ReplyDeleteI only saw the second half, but every yellow was 100% deserved.
Delete93' elbow in Zagreb... misconduct?
ReplyDeleteIMO a YC for the reckless illegal use of the elbow. RC would not be in place for me as I don’t recognize excessive force nor an endangering the opponent.
DeleteAgree with Unknown, lack of excessive force makes it a YC for me.
DeleteSorry, I actually agree. I didn't realize Mateu showed yellow--it was not clear on the broadcast here.
DeleteI only caught the last half an hour of the PSV-Glasgow game, and Marciniak has done an excellent job. In a tense atmosphere with a lot of rough play, the Pole was brillant in disciplinary control/prevention/managing the game. When he is in good shape, he definitely is one of the very best officials in Europe, a pleasure to watch.
ReplyDeleteAtmosphere in Turkey was more heated I think
DeleteMarciniak handled game very professionally let game flow in early parts and only produced deserved cautions when obvious later in game. Very good man management of players and situations
ReplyDeleteI couldn’t watch Makkelie, but when Turkish people are praising him on socials/ twitter, I assume he did well
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion ending the game in Trabzon without VAR interventions and with the big pressure we could watch from every minute is something that makes a performance even better than it really was.
ReplyDeleteTo add, this was the second game for Makkelie in the Play Off stage and this could have created some issues for him, because passing from a match to another challenging one it's not easy. I always praise his coolness, but today in some moments he had to abandon it, and I can fully understand why. Also, the body language during finel whistle, something that I can't describe in words, to be honest. You understand that only from the referee's point of view.
I’m curious now. we need a video of final whistle :)
DeleteVideo anyone?
DeleteOverall very strong performance of the Dutch crew in Trabzon. With a minimum amount of disciplinary sanctions he kept full control over the game and the players. Even the situation Mikael posted in the video did not cause any tension or arousal in the game or to the players. I think that says it all.
ReplyDeleteMaybe one or two decisions which could have gone the other way, but without any impact on the game. Penalty appeal of the Turkish side rejected correctly.
Makkelie again showed why he’s so often trusted with the potentially most heated games across Europe.
One would be led to believe that the FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup has concluded based on the lack of coverage. Fortunately, certain individuals have graciously continued to post new assignments.
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ReplyDeletehttps://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/24/sports/soccer/champions-league-psg-nasser.html
Reading this and I’m even more concerned about the future of “independent” referees with regard to PSG games and Italian teams.
To be honest, mr. Rosetti can do something about this, to reject these concerns:
Assign Makkelie to PSG again on short term (remember that the French press did not blame him at all!) and Michael Oliver to an important game involving an Italian team. If Rosetti avoids to do this, it will be an even stronger signal (!) for referees to (slightly) whistle in the advantage of PSG and Italian teams in case of 50-50 grey area cases, to “protect” their own careers. Is that what they want?
I’ll provide one other example, the contrary:
Turpin was highly criticized in the Netherlands by the press/analysts/talkshows after that Feyenoord-Roma game in 2015. Did the referee boss decide to avoid Turpin with Dutch teams? Nope. Fortunately he did not. And there have been plenty of other examples were Rosetti decided that a prior negative media attention in the past was no reason to assign a referee to a game.
But for some reason, Italian teams and PSG are different and treated differently… Ouch.
I would assign Michael Oliver to Juventus next CL groupstage in an away game (and not the most significant one on MD6 ;)). Why not?
DeleteSame for Makkelie; give him PSG in an away game, perhaps a game where an easy win is expected.
Come clean, forget the past and time to move on. It would be a strong signal by the “independent” committee if they do so. :)
Exactly just appoint Oliver to Juventus and Makkelie to PSG. If the teams cause trouble just kick them out the competition
DeleteIt's a shocking article. And it's ridiculous how UEFA has just let Makkelie float. Imagine how it must feel if you have to work your matches for an organisation that has close ties to the guy who threatened you, violated the flag of your assistant and friend...
DeleteUnluckily what it is written in this article, can't be denied. Nowadays refereeing is not free like before, this is both for referees when they officiate, but also for committees and heads. The clubs have forcefully taken the scene: technical choices, strategies, all seems to be over. A strong figure as referees' leader maybe could still have his say, but it seems we don't have that anymore. If you wonder why Collina left UEFA for working at FIFA (national teams and not clubs) maybe you can find some confirmations of that...
DeleteWell PSG vs Juventus is going to be hard game to appoint a referee to. Surely Siebert and Spanish refs and Taylor? Are the only options?
DeleteShocking article indeed. What's more, it seems the referees are in a lose-lose situation whatever they do. On one side, they are under certain "pressure" to whistle "in favour" of certain teams and risk missing out on certain career developments if they don't. On the other side, if they "fall in line", then it's them being blamed by the media, fans, players, club officials. Most of the fans know nothing about the Referees Committee, but referees are directly in the spotlight and are ALWAYS blamed, regardless of the situation described in the article. It's becoming increasingly difficult to do this job properly.
DeleteMarciniak did a really good job in a challenging match. The cards / fouls balance seems a bit strict, maybe, but all of them were fully justified. The game just went from the one side to the other side, and a lot of the yellow cards were promising attacks where he (rightly!) chose to card. Some of those, e.g. around the 90th minute, were pretty harsh fouls by the Duchs team. To me, that yellow card has a red line around it.
ReplyDeleteSome other moments created tension, because especially the Dutch team was just very emotional on the pitch. Marciniak did really well. 8,5 for me.
Overall how much marks will you give those(6nos) six referees on the scale of 10?
ReplyDeleteMakkelie 9/10
DeleteTaylor 8,5/10
Turpin 8/10 - boring game
Soares Dias 8/10
Marciniak 8/10
Mateu Lahoz 7/10
Why Mateu?
DeleteMakkelie-9.0
DeleteTaylor-8.7
Lahoz-7.9
Didn't watch the others.
We'll have once again Porto-Atletico Madrid. This might be one of the most difficult games. The question is: will Rosetti take the risk to appoint a WC referee (e.g. Turpin, Makkelie, Orsato) or not?
ReplyDeleteDepends on the standings in group I think.
DeleteGroup H (PSG - Juve - Benfica - Maccabi) can be a challenging one.
Oliver will do it at Spain while Taylor will handle Juve-Psg at Turin.
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