Discussion about 2022-23 UEFA Nations League, Matchday 5.
Matchday 5
League C - Group 3
22 September 2022, 16:00 CET - Nur Sultan, Astana Arena
KAZAKHSTAN - BELARUS
Referee: Horatiu Fesnic (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Valentin Avram (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Alexandru Cerei (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Petrescu (ROU)
Referee: Horatiu Fesnic (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Valentin Avram (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Alexandru Cerei (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Petrescu (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Edwin Van De Graaf (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Thomas Einwaller (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Michail Kassabov (BUL)
League D - Group 1
22 September 2022, 18:00 CET - Riga, Skonto Stadions
LATVIA - MOLDOVA
Referee: Antonio Nobre (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Pedro Ribeiro (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Martins (POR)
Fourth Official: Bruno Jose Ribeiro Pires Costa (POR)
Referee: Antonio Nobre (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Pedro Ribeiro (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Martins (POR)
Fourth Official: Bruno Jose Ribeiro Pires Costa (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Hugo Miguel (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Miguel Bertolo Nogueira (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Ariel Scheiman (ISR)
League A - Group 1
22 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Saint Denis, Stade de France
FRANCE - AUSTRIA
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Niklas Nyberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Fredrik Klitte (SWE)
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Niklas Nyberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Fredrik Klitte (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: José Maria Sanchez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Iñigo Prieto (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Cyril Zimmermann (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Kris Bellon (BEL)
League A - Group 4
22 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Warsaw, PGE Narodowy
POLAND -NETHERLANDS
Referee: Alejandro José Hernanez Hernandez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: José Naranjo (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Sanchez Rojo (ESP)
Fourth Official: Pablo Gonzalez Fuertes (ESP)
Referee: Alejandro José Hernanez Hernandez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: José Naranjo (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Sanchez Rojo (ESP)
Fourth Official: Pablo Gonzalez Fuertes (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo De Burgos (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Santiago Jaime Latre (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michal Benes (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: David Findlay (SCO)
League A - Group 4
22 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Brussels, King Baudouin Stadium
BELGIUM - WALES
Referee: Ali Palabıyık (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Serkan Olguncan (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Erdinç Sezertam (TUR)
Fourth Official: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Referee: Ali Palabıyık (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Serkan Olguncan (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Erdinç Sezertam (TUR)
Fourth Official: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Tormod Larsen (NOR)
League A - Group 1
22 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Zagreb, Stadion Maksimir
CROATIA - DENMARK
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Fabio Maresca (ITA)
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Fabio Maresca (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alessandro Lo Cicero (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Neil Morrow (NIR)
League C - Group 3
22 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Trnava, Štadión Antona Malatinského
SLOVAKIA - AZERBAIJAN
Referee: William Collum (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David McGeachie (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Francis Connor (SCO)
Fourth Official: Donald Robertson (SCO)
Referee: William Collum (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David McGeachie (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Francis Connor (SCO)
Fourth Official: Donald Robertson (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Peter Bankes (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Neil Davies (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ognjen Valjić (BIH)
UEFA Delegate: Björn Fecker (GER)
League C - Group 1
22 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Istanbul, Başakşehir Fatih Terim Stadyumu
TURKEY - LUXEMBOURG
Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Eduard Beitinger (GER)
Fourth Official: Matthias Jöllenbeck (GER)
Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Eduard Beitinger (GER)
Fourth Official: Matthias Jöllenbeck (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Benjamin Brand (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Achmüller (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ante Vučemilović (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Aurel Ionescu (ROU)
League C - Group 1
22 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Vilnius, LFF Stadionas
LITHUANIA - FAROE ISLANDS
Referee: Vilhjálmur Alvar Þórarinsson (ISL)
Assistant Referee 1: Gylfi Már Sigurðsson (ISL)
Assistant Referee 2: Birkir Sigurðarson (ISL)
Fourth Official: Þorvaldur Arnason (ISL)
Referee: Vilhjálmur Alvar Þórarinsson (ISL)
Assistant Referee 1: Gylfi Már Sigurðsson (ISL)
Assistant Referee 2: Birkir Sigurðarson (ISL)
Fourth Official: Þorvaldur Arnason (ISL)
Video Assistant Referee: Pascal Müller (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Markus Sinn (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Rune Pedersen (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Frédéric Veraghaenne (BEL)
League D - Group 1
22 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Vaduz, Rheinpark Stadion
LIECHTENSTEIN - ANDORRA
Referee: Juxhin Xhaja (ALB)
Assistant Referee 1: Rejdi Avdo (ALB)
Assistant Referee 2: Nertil Bregasi (ALB)
Fourth Official: Eldorjan Hamiti (ALB)
Referee: Juxhin Xhaja (ALB)
Assistant Referee 1: Rejdi Avdo (ALB)
Assistant Referee 2: Nertil Bregasi (ALB)
Fourth Official: Eldorjan Hamiti (ALB)
Video Assistant Referee: Luca Pairetto (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Matteo Passeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Pierre Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Darko Ramovs (SRB)
Referee Liaison Officer: Ellero Ziegler (SUI)
League C - Group 4
23 September 2022, 18:00 CET - Tbilisi, Boris Paichadze Dinamo Arena
GEORGIA - NORTH MACEDONIA
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Pozor (SVK)
Fourth Official: Peter Kralović (SVK)
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Pozor (SVK)
Fourth Official: Peter Kralović (SVK)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Bresmes (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Markku Lehtola (FIN)
League D - Group 2
23 September 2022, 18:00 CET - Tallinn, A. Le Coq Arena
ESTONIA - MALTA
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Christian Dingert (GER)
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Christian Dingert (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Sören Storks (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mike Pickel (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Zoran Petrović (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Philippe Prudhon (FRA)
League A - Group 3
23 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Leipzig, RB Arena
GERMANY - HUNGARY
Referee: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Nejc Kajtazovic (SVN)
Referee: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Nejc Kajtazovic (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dragoslav Perič (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michalis Argyrou (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Iain Blair (SCO)
League A - Group 3
23 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Milan, Stadio Giuseppe Meazza
ITALY - ENGLAND
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado (ESP)
Fourth Official: Isidro Diaz de Mera Escuderos (ESP)
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado (ESP)
Fourth Official: Isidro Diaz de Mera Escuderos (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ignacio Iglesias Villanueva (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Petrov (UKR)
UEFA Delegate: Fernand Meese (BEL)
League B - Group 3
23 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Helsinki, Olympic Stadium
FINLAND - ROMANIA
Referee: Carlos Del Cerro (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Raúl Cabañero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Guadalupe Porras (ESP)
Fourth Official: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
Referee: Carlos Del Cerro (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Raúl Cabañero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Guadalupe Porras (ESP)
Fourth Official: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Xavier Estrada (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: José Gonzalez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Haim Jakov (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Anna Kapasoglou (GRE)
League C - Group 4
23 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Razgrad, Ludogorets Arena
BULGARIA - GIBRALTAR
Referee: Pavel Orel (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Kamil Hajek (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Paták (CZE)
Fourth Official: Jan Petrik (CZE)
Referee: Pavel Orel (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Kamil Hajek (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Paták (CZE)
Fourth Official: Jan Petrik (CZE)
Video Assistant Referee: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Timo Gerach (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Tammo Beishuizen (NED)
League B - Group 3
23 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Zenica, Stadion Bilino polje
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA - MONTENEGRO
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musial (POL)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musial (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Piotr Lasyk (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alon Yefet (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Tarik Shamel (ENG)
League B - Group 1
24 September 2022, 15:00 CET - Yerevan, Republican Stadium after Vazgen Sargsyan
ARMENIA - UKRAINE
Referee: João Pinheiro (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bruno Alves Jesus (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Luciano Maia (POR)
Fourth Official: André Narciso (POR)
Referee: João Pinheiro (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bruno Alves Jesus (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Luciano Maia (POR)
Fourth Official: André Narciso (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bruno Esteves (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Michal Mertinyak (SVK)
League B - Group 2
Match Cancelled
ICELAND - RUSSIA
League C - Group 2
24 September 2022, 18:00 CET - Belfast (Windsor Park)
NORTHERN IRELAND - KOSOVO
Referee: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Söderqvist (SWE)
Fourth Official: Adam Ladebäck (SWE)
Referee: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Söderqvist (SWE)
Fourth Official: Adam Ladebäck (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ingmar Oostrom (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Carlos Velasco Carballo (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Octavian Goga (ROU)
League B - Group 4
24 September 2022, 18:00 CET - Ljubljana, Stadion Stožice
SLOVENIA - NORWAY
Referee: Lawrence Visser (BEL)
Assistant Referee 1: Rien Vanyzere (BEL)
Assistant Referee 2: Thibaud Nijssen (BEL)
Fourth Official: Lothar D'hondt (BEL)
Referee: Lawrence Visser (BEL)
Assistant Referee 1: Rien Vanyzere (BEL)
Assistant Referee 2: Thibaud Nijssen (BEL)
Fourth Official: Lothar D'hondt (BEL)
Video Assistant Referee: Bram Van Driessche (BEL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Nathan Verboomen (BEL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Mutschler (SUI)
League B - Group 1
24 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Glasgow, Hampden Park
SCOTLAND - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Alain Bieri (SUI)
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Alain Bieri (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Lukas Fähndrich (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Igor Pristovnik (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Emil Ubias (CZE)
League C - Group 2
24 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Larnaca, AEK Larnaca Arena
CYPRUS - GREECE
Referee: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dmitri Zhuk (BLR)
Assistant Referee 2: Oleg Maslyanko (BLR)
Fourth Official: Dzmitry Dzmitryieu (BLR)
Referee: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dmitri Zhuk (BLR)
Assistant Referee 2: Oleg Maslyanko (BLR)
Fourth Official: Dzmitry Dzmitryieu (BLR)
Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pawel Pskit (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stephen Tanner (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Peadar Ryan (IRL)
League A - Group 2
24 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Zaragoza, La Romareda
SPAIN - SWITZERLAND
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Thomas Leonard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicolae Grigorescu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Jānis Mežeckis (LVA)
League A - Group 2
24 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Prague, Eden Arena
CZECH REPUBLIC - PORTUGAL
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Katrin Rafalski (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: René H. J. Temmink (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolphe Mannaerts (BEL)
League B - Group 2
24 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Tel Aviv, Bloomfield Stadium
ISRAEL - ALBANIA
Referee: Donatas Rumsas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Robertas Valikonis (LTU)
Referee: Donatas Rumsas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Robertas Valikonis (LTU)
Video Assistant Referee: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Iñigo Prieto (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Myrsini Psarropoulou (GRE)
League B - Group 4
24 September 2022, 20:45 CET - Belgrade, Stadion Rajko Mitić
SERBIA - SWEDEN
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Nikola Popov (BUL)
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Nikola Popov (BUL)
Video Assistant Referee: Ivaylo Stoyanov (BUL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dragomir Draganov (BUL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Orkhan Huseynzade (AZE)
the FIFA Referees’ Committee in December, and we will confirm the final list in due course.
ReplyDeleteMen’s FIFA Referees List
Stuart Attwell
John Brooks
Darren England
Jarred Gillett
Robert Jones
Chris Kavanagh
Andrew Madley
Michael Oliver
Craig Pawson
Anthony Taylor
Men’s FIFA Assistant Referees List
Simon Bennett
Gary Beswick
Lee Betts
Stuart Burt
Dan Cook
Neil Davies
Constantine Hatzidakis
Ian Hussin
Harry Lennard
Adam Nunn
Women’s FIFA Referees List
Abi Byrne
Lisa Benn
Kirsty Dowle
Emily Heaslip
Stacey Pearson
Rebecca Welch
Women’s FIFA Assistant Referees List
Natalie Aspinall
Lucy-Anne Briggs
Emily Carney
Melissa Burgin
Sian Massey-Ellis
Lisa Rashid
FIFA Video Match Officials
Stuart Attwell
Peter Bankes
Lee Betts
David Coote
Darren England
Jarred Gillett
Constantine Hatzidakis
Chris Kavanagh
Andrew Madley
Sian Massey-Ellis
Craig Pawson
Michael Salisbury
welcome back Jarred Gillett!
DeleteBrooks added to the FIFA list as a main referee and not as VAR, that's very surprising considering both that he's only ever done seven PL games and also that he's got quite sonorous appointments as VAR.
DeleteSo Bankes, Coote and Tierney leave the list. Quite a change there. I wonder, whether Riley was still in the lead for that decision or this are already the first footprints by Webb.
DeleteFIFA nominations are made by the FA, not PGMOL. Not sure who the new chairman is, after Elleray was dismissed?
DeleteAlexander
DeleteI was under the impression that Mr Elleray was going to retire.
And that he was not dismissed.
So you comment is totally wrong and very misleading and showing no respect to Mr Elleray and the FA.
PGMOL is delighted to announce that The FA Referees’ Committee has unanimously approved the nominations for the 2023 FIFA Referees, Assistant Referees and Video Match Officials lists.
DeleteThe key changes see John Brooks, Jarred Gillet and Rob Jones included on the Men’s Referees List while Emily Heaslip has been included on the Women’s Referees List, with the number of officials operating on field in FIFA competitions from the start of the new year increasing to 16.
Paul Tierney has decided to step down from international football, while Peter Bankes and David Coote will now act solely as FIFA Video Match Officials – part of a 12-strong group of VARs from PGMOL.
Managing Director Mike Riley said: “I’d like to start by congratulating John, Jarred, Rob and Emily on their nominations for inclusion on the 2023 FIFA List – this is testament to them for performances both domestically and internationally, as well as their credentials as ambassadors of the game.
“They will find themselves in very good company on the respective lists and I’m sure the growing number our officials will continue to do us proud on the international stage.”
Mike added: “Paul Tierney has been a part of the Men’s List for four years and I’d like to take this opportunity to congratulate him as well as thank him for delivering the high standards we want to achieve when our officials are selected for fixtures on the international stage.
“Just as importantly, I would like to express my gratitude to Peter and David who have volunteered to step down from the Men’s Referees List in order to create the opportunities for John, Jarred and Rob. This is incredibly selfless of them and typical of the values that make them the great ambassadors for refereeing that they are.”
Alexander, have you read the news about Elleray in the last year? Have you heard about his proven accusations of discrimination toward some referees in England? If not, just do a google search and you will find all the details; it is public information. He was not officially "dismissed", but was forced to "retire" instead. You can read it the way you want, but it is the same outcome, with his reputation definitely tarnished.
DeleteI have read your comments
DeleteWhich I do not agree with ,
So we’re are you from Alexander
Big changes! Unheard of in England to remove people to make space or freshen the list. What a turnaround - in recent years, there were never enough eligible referees to even nominate! I suppose if it is made clear that refs are not ‘progressing’ with UEFA, it’s tempting to replace with others.
DeleteGreat changes- Gillett from australia gets fifa badge in another country. Jones has been solid enough and brooks at 31 referee’d all his premier league games so far without major issues so shows huge potential.
DeleteFriendlies in Europe (Austria and France)
ReplyDelete22/09
16:30 Tunisia - Comoros
Gabriel Henry - Youssef El Hamzaoui, Félicien Gazon - Julien Reynet
18:00 Venezuela - Iceland
Sebastian Gishamer - Roland Riedel, Maximilian Weiß - Alan Kijas
23/09
18:00 Iran - Uruguay
Walter Altmann - Andreas Staudinger, Markus Gutschi - Alexander Harkam
18:00 United Arab Emirates - Paraguay
Harald Lechner - Maximilian Kolbitsch, Santino Schreiner - Josef Spurny
19:00 Qatar - Canada
Manuel Schüttengruber - Roland Brandner, Robert Steinacher - Julian Weinberger
20:30 Brazil - Ghana
Mikaël Lesage - Alexis Auger, Valentin Évrard - Guillaume Paradis
24/09
18:00 Ivory Coast - Togo
Aurélien Petit - Bertrand Corcuff, Djemel Zitouni - Antoine Valnet
19:00 Senegal - Bolivia
Bastien Dechepy - Brice Parinet Le Tellier, Julien Aube - Gaël Angoula
27/09
16:30 Senegal - Iran
Harald Lechner - Andreas Heidenreich, Sara Telek - Markus Hameter
17:00 United Arab Emirates - Venezuela
Manuel Schüttengruber - Roland Brandner, Robert Steinacher - Stefan Ebner
19:00 Qatar - Chile
Julian Weinberger - Andreas Witschnigg, Maximilian Kolbitsch - Gerhard Grobelnik
20:00 Ivory Coast - Guinea
Thomas Léonard - Bastien Courbet, Philippe Jeanne - Nicolas Rainville
20:30 Brazil - Tunisia
Ruddy Buquet - Guillaume Debart, Aurélien Drouet - Hakim Ben El Hadj Salem
If someone can share appointments to these games...
Delete22/09 Suriname - Nicaragua in Almere, NED
23/09 Japan - United States in Düsseldorf, GER
23/09 Saudi Arabia - Ecuador in Murcia, ESP
23/09 Morocco - Chile in Cornellà de Llobregat, ESP
27/09 Ecuador - Japan in Düsseldorf, GER
27/09 Canada - Uruguay in Bratislava, SVK
27/09 Saudi Arabia - United States in Murcia, ESP
27/09 Paraguay - Morocco in Seville, ESP
Suriname - Nicaragua: Gözöbüyük (NED)
DeleteFitting game for gozubuyuk. Doesnt deserve anything big as long as he doesnt know the rules of the game
DeleteJapan - United States ZWAYER
Delete23/09 Japan - United States in Düsseldorf, GER
DeleteFelix Zwayer - Stefan Lupp, Thorben Siewer - Benjamin Cortus [Martin Thomsen, Markus Wollenweber]
All German third team
27/09 Ecuador - Japan in Düsseldorf, GER
Sascha Stegemann - Christian Gittelmann, Mark Borsch - Daniel Schlager [Sören Storks, Mike Pickel]
All German third team
27/09 Canada - Uruguay in Bratislava, SVK
DeletePeter Kráľovič - Milan Štrb, Erik Weiss - Ivan Kružliak [SVK]
Correct 2YC for KAZ8 by Fesnic (reckless challenge)
ReplyDeleteScandal in France: http://josimarfootball.com/its-an-handjob-or-nothing/
ReplyDeleteIt is funny, that Orel is the highest rated Czech referee in UEFA/FIFA, while he is according to the opinions of many one of the worst Czech referees at all.
ReplyDeleteVery clear penalty whistled by Stieler in Turkey - Luxembourg.
ReplyDelete19' clear missed foul by Stieler
Deleteis anyone watching ali palabiyik? He has an important observer.
ReplyDeleteVery easy game until now, so no problems
DeleteNow OFR in Belgium, penalty whistled
DeleteCorrect decision after OFR. No penalty, tackle on the ball. Strange that he whistled first penalty
DeleteLie- And very hot game, min 39 possible missed red card for L Meier i home team.
ReplyDeleteYes, all 5 YC st HT in LIEAND were for late tackles, one of them checked for possible SFP.
DeleteAny link ?
ReplyDeleteDid not watched, just follow on uefa.com it said in tex VAR check red card in progress. Luca Pairetto in VAR, Garibian will not be happy if they missed red here.
ReplyDeleteNow a very interesting situation in Belgium - Wales, Kalkavan called for OFR after a whistled penalty. Significant touch on the ball, and then also contact with opponent, the decision was changed by Palabiyk.
ReplyDeleteWe can draw conclusion that when there is clear touch on the ball, most of times OFR is called, but stricly according to protocol one could still say not a clear and obvious mistake. I would add that this radical change about intervention took place in recent times, we could have expected many different decisions in past when such situations occurred.
It was a very clear and obvious mistake. The touch on the player is after the ball and completely fair and not a foul.
DeleteAgreed^^ 23:31. He rightly sent off for Martínez for not releasing the ball in additional time, but very weak level presented by Palabiyik. So many clear fouls only whistled after long delay, he was only one incident away from a big confrontation at the end of the game - control of the players actions was virtually zero by the end. To be honest if I saw any development in this Turkish referee over the years, it was a -tive one. UEFA should focus on other TFF names.
DeleteMaybe they should not focus on Turkish refs at all. Cakir was great but there is no quality behind him yet IMO. Focus on Visser/Scharer e.a. they are much better IMO
DeleteTotally agree. And the game wasn't difficult at all ... wrong penalty, bad foul detection and uncertain about what to do
Deleteif I understand: in UEFA If you use VAR its bad for the referee, even thought the final decision is correct?
DeleteWeak Hernandez (2x) tonight
ReplyDeleteI disagree, a good game, full control in a not really challenging game. All decisions were accepted on the pitch, crucial decisions correctly taken, I would say an expected level performance
DeleteFull control? All decisions accepted? I must have seen a different game then… Level of control was ‘just average’ in my opinion, and from what I saw players discussed decisions frequently and some dissents were also visible.
DeleteExcellent management skills displayed by Stieler in his game from what I saw. Did anyone watch the full match?
ReplyDeleteDid not watch this game, but I recall that Stieler was recognized for his management of many editions of the Classiker Bayern-Borussia before being sidelined last year...
DeleteI must say, I am not impressed by Hernandez Hernandez. He seems isolated on the pitch and I can't find a clear line in his disciplinary management. The yellow card for Weghorst was a bit too much, and I've seen other fouls that were worthy of a yellow card, for example around the 90th minute for blatant holding and protesting. For my taste, a YC would have been appropriate there.
ReplyDeleteI didn't like Alejandro Hernández' performance today. Nothing crucial but chaotic and too lenient. Many dissents resulting from his shaky foul selection and UEFA RefCom will be angry he didn't punish them accordingly. He tried with warning once but then he just kept both eyes closed.
ReplyDeleteHe tried to play as many advantages as possible and be in verbal contact with players - that's good - but even then he lacked in prevention. Many tactical fouls just whistled and nothing followed.
Good cooperation with assistants and fourth official, they were one team, many 'thumbs up' gestures in direction of ARs.
There was only one KMI, a penalty appeal by NED in 74', but no replay was shown (well, the quality of broadcast in UNL and EURO/WC Qualifiers is always so amateur...).
Agree with all about Hernandez. It is all this small misstakes in very easy game almost of friendly caracter. He looked very uncomfort all the time and changed his la liga style as much as he could. I like him in la liga most of times but in Europe he looks lost.
ReplyDeleteAny footage of the late penalty given by Collum in Slovakia?
ReplyDeleteHere we go!!!! The witch-hunt continues and someone desperate for footage to see if Collum has made an error in the penalty award tonight. Give the guy some respect and maybe put your envy to one side. This is a referee who has officiated in excess of 150 international appointments yet some people are desperate to see him fail!
DeleteAnonymous 01:53 you probably have a point, but this particular user simply asked for the footage, nothing unusual. Relax
Deletehttps://streamja.com/WzKbj
DeleteThe penalty is more than supportable, for my tast still something that can be discussed, but I think the decision can be expected, clear contact and stupid action by defender. With Italian glasses, I would still say that something is missing, BTW...
Anonymous, if you had used the barest amount of insight and logic you would see that my name means 'Scotland'. I am interested in a decision made by a Scottish referee, because I am Scottish
DeleteAlexander.
DeleteIn reading some of the posts over the last month or so.
With references to Scottish referee Mr Collum .
Some people do not like him as a referee and have made that absolutely clear here.
Yes referees make mistakes.
There is absolutely No perfect referee on a football match .
Plus some write about other referees and some that have moved on .And think there are the best referees to blow a whistle.
If you did not put in the hard work ,committed and dedication to refereeing you would not be at that level that he has achieved.
And he has certainly down that over his time in refereeing.
So can we just look at the decision of a referee and take out this very clear comments and the person .
There are excellent referees at Uefa .
And I have absolutely no doubt there will be mistakes made by them during the season .
And I will finish with this .
Even the world’s best referee made mistakes in his career .
Very soft imo.
DeleteDoes anyone have clips from the game of Xhaja in Vaduz?
ReplyDeleteThere was only one situation where he showed yellow card but it was grey zone as it could be red card to. Pairetto checked for few seconds but I am not sure if Xhaja went to monitor to check this situation and did not listen to Pairetto advice to show red card.
DeletePalabiyik
ReplyDeleteRevoked penalty: https://send.cm/d/F59U
Martínez ejection: https://send.cm/d/F59V
I think (even) Irrati would have intervened to wipe out this penalty call. Agreed?
DeleteAgreed 100%.
DeleteWhy did he restart with a dropped ball instead of a corner kick? Did he actually blow his whistle before the ball left the field of play?
53' challenge from Ito in Japan-USA was clear SFP for me (or even maybe VC, as it wasn't much of a "challenge"). No misconduct and no urgency at all from Zwayer or the fourth official.
ReplyDeleteFull appointment: Felix Zwayer, Stefan Lupp, Thorben Siewer, Benjamin Cortus - Martin Thomsen, Markus Wollenweber
DeleteSo this means that Zwayer won’t be assigned to any UNL MD6 🧐
DeleteThe match was played in Germany, so he would be available for a match on MD6.
DeleteGermany - France U21 friendly currently refereed by Krzysztof Jakubik (POL).
ReplyDeleteCorrect PK (+ RC for SFP) by Siebert after OFR just before HT in ESTMLT.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamja.com/AvwAd
DeleteI praise German VARs, replay from the camera below is clear, the red card can indeed be only for SFP because in case of assessed DOGSO, it would have been YC due to genuine attempt to play ball. Very particular incident, as we rarely see SFPs leading to penalties (in the box defender try to be always very careful and it they commit foul it's very often no more than reckless and YC). About Siebert, I think that he could have spotted the foul, but maybe not the red card? I think that he was "distracted" by following the ball, focusing on the pair of involved players maybe too late to be alert to read the incident.
Let me also add that most of Italian VARs in this case, unless decision by referee himself, would have called just for penalty. YC would have been assessed as OK, with the focus on the big call to do. This is a real example of pure refereeing, nowadays quite rare, I must say.
DeleteHere's a philosophical question: if a red card for SFP is "quite rare" for this sort of incident, then is it actually "clear and obviously wrong" not to give one?
DeleteNot making a judgment here. In a perfect world, I like the red card. But in that perfect world, the red card is consistently given.
If it's inconsistently given, how can we praise the rare decision?
The SFP didn't need to be clear and obvious here, right?
DeleteOnce the referee is at the monitor to review the situation, he makes a new evaluation of it and is looking for the best possible decision, independent from his previous one. Even more: As he obviously had missed the foul before, he had not yet made a decision on the colour of the card before the OFR anyway, so there simply was no decision regarding the severity, that could be clearly wrong.
The question can be raised for other incidents as well, I often hear something like: "Wrong intervention, nobody would have complained, impossible to see for referee..." and so on.
DeleteSo, now one should try to answer to this: should VAR work merely on LotG or should it adapt to the reality of refereeing (common sense and so on...)? Since it is a technology, opposed to human being (but held by him/her), you will always see this diffference in its application.
Commenting initially on the incident, this is a very, very, very clear SFP for me. (I would write "very" a few more times, but I already sound like Commandant Lassard here.)
DeleteI have to say this seems to me like a really poor miss by Siebert. I understand Chefren's words about "distraction", but, watching the footage, it seems he was in a good position to assess the whole incident. I admit that I'm disappointed by this, being quite satisfied (even impressed) with Siebert's technical accuracy during EURO 2020.
About the philosophical question raised by usaref, I think Philipp S explained the issue perfectly, that would be my opinion also. However, being frank, I strongly believe that a VAR intervention for SFP is a must here, regardless of other issues in this scene.
Only working on LotG would not be possible, because the wording there is not always precise enough and even sometimes contradicts the common interpretation. So VAR needs to also consider instructions by the associations and IMO also the "usual decision".
DeleteI mean, the main purpose of VAR is to erase errors, where nearly every spectator thought, it was the wrong decision - and not to find the theoretically best solution.
2 OFR in Tallinn, what happened with Siebert performance? Can anyone share the full clip of the incident, in my country this match is not broadcast.
ReplyDeleteYou can find first OFR above, now looking for the second one.
DeleteSecond OFR:
Deletehttps://streamja.com/N0bPe
Handball, not easy for Siebert and not from AR's side.
I agree with VAR again, clear movement by arm to ball.
Well, two penalties and a RC after OFR, is not the best presentation for Siebert before next CL assignments...
Second penalty was difficult to see on the pitch, but Sieber HAD to see that there was a clear foul in the first scene. Maybe his position was too central but it is not acceptable to miss such a clear foul. Nice to see that he did not go for the „easy“ decision (penalty + YC) but for the correct decision (RC, SFP). From these incidents, very good performance by the VAR team. As I have mentioned above, Storks is one of the best VARs in Germany together with Brand and Müller.
DeleteVery good OFR, clear handball IMO. I agree about Siebert not to be blamed too much, this really is a tricky situation for any referee.
DeleteFully agree, Ref_1707, a really bad miss by Siebert in the first situation, I'm sorry for him.
Thanks to usaref for calling this out, Zwayer's SFP incident from JPNUSA friendly today:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamvi.com/watch/1663954458
TO be honest, this is a clear violent conduct, not even a SFP.
DeleteHe is aware he can't reach ball when he makes such movement, deliberatley hitting opponent. Fourth official to be blamed, VAR intervention more than expected in a game with technology.
And there was VAR in this game, right? Unbelievable from Zwayer, 4OF and VAR... Sorry to say but in case of this happening in an official game, severe punishment for all three officials involved...
DeleteThere was VAR? Ok I'm shocked. Can you provide some info why he didn't intervene? They just arranged the appointment to pretend that this was a game with VAR and nothing more? Can't find other explanations... maybe VAR afraid for the friendly context? Oh my God...
DeleteYes. VAR is Martin Thomsen
DeleteVAR stayed silent here??!! Oh my God...
DeleteInexplicable mistake by the officials involved, especially by VAR, but I think Zwayer also had to see this, judging by his position. A very clear case of violent conduct, completely uninterested in playing the ball and going straight at the opponent's leg with studs and force.
I think Siebert's performance was upset considering his status as a top elite referee, it's very rare for me to see Chefren use defensive words so many times only on one match.
ReplyDeleteI try to find explanations for mistakes / missed incidents for all referees, it's not only about Siebert, and my last statement should be clear. Not good for him, as Elite to end the game with two crucial mistakes and a possible 7.4 as mark.
DeleteBTW I would be very curious to know how many crucial mistakes are assigned in UEFA reports nowadays if compared to past, I would bet on less severityi by observers compared to strict Collina's times.. they can find, if they want, arguments, for backing eveery singular choice.
58 days to the World Cup.
DeleteMedium on Germany and not well Internationally, it's a worry.
Something is not good with the system for German referees, in the past years many referees pushed in the Elite category Stieler,Zwayer,Aytekin, Siebert same way all of them,but not like Brych or Stark. But it seems enough if you are German or Italian because you have more place in elite category...nonsense. IMO Siebert will deserve if he will be only Support referee in Qatar.
DeleteI fully agree with “recovery” games, however a referee that performed
Delete1) very well at the EURO
2) is Germany’s number 1 ; and
3) is invited to the World Cup - should not recover in a qualification round Conference League, Kazakhstan or Estonia. In ugly games where a Elite referee simply can’t win, only loose, and it doesn’t do anything good for his confidence either. Give him an average Europa League game, or low profile CL game, or two, or three, but not this.
I could answer to your point nr. 3: "an Elite referee can't win in such games", the contrary. Exactly because he is an Elite referee, he should win all games. This is the best style for a referee, trying to change himself for every context, if you go on the field and you do always same things, you can make mistakes. This was indeed a problem months ago for Siebert exactly in the games of teams from Spain, Italy and we know how much different it is from German mentality. I think that one of the biggest problem in recent times for Germany is how referees officiate in Bundesliga, it seems definitely a different world than the rest of Europe. A rare case of very intelligent referee changing himself has been surely Felix Brych. It doesn't surprise me that according to German refereeing expert (I talked once with Collina's Erben about that), in his country he wasn't recognized as the top class referee he has been outside his country. Yes, we criticize him as well on the blog, but basically one must recognize that at moment he is by far the German "winner" of recent times, if compared to all those names like Aytekin, Zwayer, Stieler and maybe even Siebert... I see only Stark before Brych, then the rest of German referees never very top level in last years.
Delete+ 1, Chefren
DeleteFine performance from Kruzliak in Tbilisi.
ReplyDeleteAny info who is referee in Barcelona, Marocco - Chile? Two nations who play very dirty and avg over 3 cards per game.
ReplyDeleteMartin Dohal
DeleteReferees in today's friendlies played on Spanish soil:
DeleteSaudi Arabia - Ecuador: Ivan Bebek (CRO)
Morocco - Chile: Martin Dohal (Slovakia)
Full team: Martin Dohal, Tomas Vorel, Tomas Straka (all SVK), David Lopez Jimenez (ESP)
DeleteQuite strange that no Spanish referees for friendlies played in Spain. But perhaps they are too busy in UNL.
DeleteInteresting to see will Marciniak keep top form ,he looks like ref who is one of the more trusted for getting hot clashes.
ReplyDeleteToo many soft free kicks from Gil Mazano. Spanish referees are just too soft.
ReplyDeleteGil Manzano is less than convincing. Clear simulation from Sterling
ReplyDeleteWould like to know other peoples views but I personally haven’t liked Manzano performance in ITA-ENG, he’s been giving very soft fouls throughout and imo not letting the game flow
ReplyDeleteAnother soft YC - poor decision conned by Grealish flying into the air after a lunge with little contact
DeleteIf you think this YC was wrong :D.
Delete(Typically) middling performance by Gil Manzano in a middling game, not much more to say. What an assignment for Bastien now! An interesting choice...
One can discuss the foul detection of Gil Manzano, but nothing particular to report about the game. In today's football for committee this is OK :)
ReplyDeleteA very hot game is expecting Bastien in Hungary on next matchday, I think that it wasn't absolutely expected, it will be interesting to watch!
While on the other hand ENG-GER is meaningless regarding the table, so maybe would have been a chance for another referee. However it still could be a hot game, because both will want to avoid going to the WC with two or three losses in a row.
DeleteIf Germany beat England and Italy draw with or lose to Hungary then Germany will finish 2nd in the table so it's not a meaningless game regards the table. Don't assume Italy will beat Hungary, Hungary are top for a reason, underestimate us at your peril... I was surprised & disappointed by the appointment though, I expected Makkelie, it was obvious to all except those who do the appointments it would be the bigger match. Hungary only need a draw to win the group and we have 2 big players retiring - Szalai Ádám our Kapitány and Jujak (Balázs Dzsudzsák).
DeleteMay I ask, why do the committee decide on referees for final match day without knowing the possible important matches especially in Englands group where they clearly thought ENG-GER was going to be very important hence Makkelie whereas now it’s the other fixture HUN-ITA which is the more important and perhaps the role of Makkelie here would’ve been better?
ReplyDeleteMarciniak was very very good in very challenging game. Every time very good position, every yellow card in right time and did not missed any. More or less optimal performance!
ReplyDeleteI saw the second half of Finland-Romania; a convincing display by CdCG, full control, good foul detection and disciplinary measures, the players respected him. The only questionable moment was a penalty request by Finland in 81', however, I think at least supportable to play on. I didn't notice anything elese in the media for the first half, so I suposse there were no problems for the Spaniard tonight.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened in BIHMNE? The end of the game looks like a card fest for Marciniak:D
ReplyDeleteNothing extraordinary. Just one mass confrontation ended up with three YCs. One card for a substitute player on the bench for dissent. Full control by Marciniak who is really in top form!
DeleteSmall minus. ;) He is normally one of the best at preventing the confrontation
DeleteAnd not as meticulous with added time as recently in CL. More in line with the usual time management on this level.
DeleteSmall fight that Marciniak handled very good.
ReplyDeleteOne question, why do you think Hungary-Italy will be to much for Bastien? Does winner goes direct to Euro 24 or what?
ReplyDeleteBecause usually Bastien already struggles in average EL or ECL games, ending up with a lot of fuss, cards and dissents.
DeleteI read know group winners goes to final 4. Should be huge game agree with you even if Hungary did not make foul today against Germany when defended 1-0 . Bastien is not level of Makkelie,Orsato,Marciniak but still solid ref with many huge derbies behind him. But ofc comitte would not give this game to him if they knew Hungary would surprise today.
DeleteNo surprise to us in Hungary ;)
DeleteSome stuff from Marciniak's game:
ReplyDeleteGoal disallowed for offside after intervention - https://streamff.com/v/d4db84
Penalty appeal - https://streamff.com/v/ed86c9
Additional time incidents - https://streamff.com/v/31e2f0
Had the game on in the background and agree with what is written - seemed like an absolutely rock solid performance by the Pole in the easily expected tough context. Respect!
I think the referee committee could well have foreseen that England's game at Wembley could be meaningless, as we could all foresee that beating Italy at home won’t be easy.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, Hungary and Italy would always fight for something (regardless of their result in MD5).
Am I saying something weird if I presume that the ref committee appoints ON PURPOSE a non-WC referee in Budapest? Because this match could potentially “damage” a WC referee a few weeks before a WC?
I read that they say that referees are very soft, not like English referees who allow one player to split the leg of another and not take out even yellow (Oliver last season). To say that about Spanish referees when English referees do not last even two years in FIFA is very daring and ignorant.
ReplyDeleteIts how football is played in england, the game is so much more physical than other leagues. Harder to referee but makes the game a much better watch. Spanish referees make watching english teams very boring.
DeleteHow many Spanish referees in the UEFA/ FIFA finals in the last 15 years? Compare that to England.
DeleteCompare the Spanish teams that have reached European finals in these 15 years. Your comparison really is ridiculous
DeleteI haven’t seen the game, but I use to look at the stats. During last UCL season, the average amount of fouls in a fair game was approx 15-22.
DeleteGil Manzano whistled 29 fouls yesterday. 29 fouls is “normal” if the game was a very intense or dirty one, with many duels in the midfield. If this wasn’t the case: you can argue that a referee didn’t make the best contribution to let the game flow.
Spain only country with 4 elite referee. La liga is much harder for referee then english league. I think last 20 years best referee had Italy with Collina,Rosetti,Rizzoli,Rocchi,Orsato but now when Orsato retire I really do not like Italian set up with Doveri,Massa,Mariani,Marescha as I can not see any of them get some big final in next 5 years. France have some very good young referee In Delajod and Pignard who will be elite when Turpin and Bastien retire. From England I do not see any elite soon. But ofc Oliver and Taylor are top 10 refs in Europe.
DeleteI think baseless comparisons will only backfire against anyone. In this case there are only similarities in the situation of Germany, England, Spain and Italy. Italy and Spain will be left behind by Orsato, Lahoz and DCG next season and they do not have a solid successor. Gil Manzano, Massa is definitely not a top elite referee, they won't be in the final of any UEFA tournament in the next 5 years unless the "big federation" political aspect is involved. France besides Turpin still has Letexier who has very good capital, England can still rely on Oliver if Taylor doesn't want to be like Kuipers (retired at 49), Germany still has Siebert, but outside of Letexier, Siebert, and Oliver I think the 5 biggest federations in Europe really going through a crisis. Italy used to be very successful with Rizzoli, Tagliavento, Rocchi, and even Orsato, as well as England had Webb, Atkinson, Clattenburg, Marriner and Taylor. Spain and Germany also they have many choices, clearly different from now where they only have a maximum of 2 names that deserve to be called elite referees. I think if the big federations don't make changes, in the next 5-7 years I'm not surprised that the UEFA competition finals will be dominated by elite referees from third world countries, even if the names of the big federations come in it's just the names of the ones I mentioned above or they are purely political decisions.
DeleteFor some reason I think that the big associations now tend to have a mindset or work pattern like the small associations that encourage only one or two referees to be pushed to their maximum point because of the limit conditions which certainly different from the big associations.
DeleteYou may not forget, that referees can also develop. So why shouldn't some of the younger referees, who don't seem to be on Elite level at the moment, don't take two or three more years and gain experience in Europa and Conference League. Maybe they improve so much, that they then are good candidates for Elite.
DeleteFurthermore promotion to Elite doesn't mean you have to be ready for a CL final. They can again given some time after the promotion to develop further until they reach top Elite level.
So from the top leagues, I think e.g. the following referees could still reach the top: Brisard, de Burgos, Frappart, Osmers, Stegemann, Cuadra, Delajod, Madley, Gillett, Chiffi, Fabbri
And obviously Gil Manzano, Letexier and Siebert are already in Elite and could stay there for quite some time due to their age.
obviously they can develop, but isn't "development" a quite defensive word especially when they're already have elite status or come from a big association? In terms of the names of the referees mentioned, I think yes some of the words "develop" is a positive thing but I don't think so for Frappart, Fabbri, Osmers, de Burgos, Stegemann or the others. Like talent and interest or something like that obviously there are some referees who have that "advantage" from their natural/talent and some who don't but they are capitalized because they are from the big association, see other comments why Lithuania can't have 2 category 1 referees in this case if Lucjancukas is indeed on par with Rumsas, why not? I think we apply double standards too often, especially when it comes to political factors in terms of the big association (country equality for the chances) and gender equality.
DeleteMaybe the most significant issue of Gil Manzano performance was the management of this situation in the last minutes of the game:
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/brc00v
Ok the first YC for the reaction, but what about the gesture by player after that? Could have been definitely a second YC, straight RC, in a strict refereeing approach.
These issues are very often seen in Gil Manzano games, but still "supportable context" I would say, he can ensure a certain control and for committee this is definitely enough nowadays.
That behaviour is unacceptable by the player.What if referee issued a 2YC or a direct RC?both supportable decisions....i
ReplyDeleteSince I read many comments here on the blog about Fesnic and Xhaja matches for some YC and challenges I cut some clips of YC from two matches Kazakhstan – Belarus. Referee: Horatiu Fesnic (ROU) – Dennis Higler (NED) and Liechtenstein – Andorra Referee: Juxhin Xhaja (ALB) – Luca Pairetto (ITA)
ReplyDeletesorry for the delay but have been busy days also not too much time today to see full matches and I’m cutting only YC and goals.
Kazakhstan – Belarus Horatiu Fesnic (ROU) – Dennis Higler (NED)
9' YC for reckless + management of players
https://streamable.com/fduyod
29' Goal – Advantage. I don’t know if the player wouldn’t score Fesnic will give penalty for holding but he made the advantage signal after the goal
https://streamable.com/6y07rt
39' YC stamping
https://streamable.com/5rzfkf
42' YC- SPA good signal from AR2
https://streamable.com/sd74el
43' fast restart while referee is writing YC
https://streamable.com/g7po2f
49' YC stamping
https://streamable.com/qxru4b
83' YC maybe for reaction of the attacking player, I’m not sure
https://streamable.com/2wxuu5
90+2 YC IMO is just careless foul
https://streamable.com/o0ec1t
90+4 2YC reckless challenge
https://streamable.com/ctd4i8
Liechtenstein – Andorra Juxhin Xhaja (ALB) – Luca Pairetto (ITA)
ReplyDelete4' GOAL good onside by AR2
https://streamable.com/b9pvb5
22' YC stamping
https://streamable.com/z8xxfr
25' YC reckless challenge
https://streamable.com/2pj0xj
35' YC reckless challenge
https://streamable.com/roshwc
39' YC this was the tackle who was checked by Parietto for a possible SFP.
https://streamable.com/1ckz36
43' YC reckless challenge
https://streamable.com/kopsfi
65' YC showing dissent to AR2
https://streamable.com/dt5ads
80’ second GOAL, not the best replays, good goal IMO
https://streamable.com/xaee7f
89' YC holding
https://streamable.com/ws175s
Outstanding work, thank you so much.
DeleteI wanted to check this game, but couldn't find a decent download.
Looks like a very good performance by referee in a challenging context. Also helped by assistant referees.
All mandatory cards for what I can see, about the possible SFP in 39', in addition to the card, one must highlight the reaction of referee, he noticed there had been something more than a "normal" foul. One can agree that YC is not clear and obvious mistake due to the low impact of the tackle, but about the rest it is definitely a RC. If opponent had not jumped...
About 39’ I think we have to see it even the level of the match and the players, if a referee stays very strict to LOTG every match when those kind of team plays then we will see at least 3 or 4 RC (direct or 2YC) and this is not good for the football. YC is enough for this tackle in this match at the way I see football
DeleteWatching all the YC he showed IMO Xhaja chose a very good approach to all tackles. The “OLD STYLE” strong whistle and sprint into direction where foul occurred, to prevent any mas confrontation after the tackle and to show that I’m here and will not tolerate any of those bad tackles. As we see not a single YC for tackle in the 2half, so this style worked for him in this match.
About @anonymous 17:42 VAR doesn’t work in the way you described, if a referee takes his time, he is consulting with his assistant or 4official not waiting what VAR has to say.
My impression was of good and especially PREPARED performances by Fesnic and Xhaja. You have to act as a firm law-enforcer in games like this and it seems they did, based on these clips (thx Anthony!).
DeleteJust a small remark re. Xhaja - he could probably have avoided 39' tackle happening at all (IMO it is rather SFP but can understand YC/no intv.) if he managed the 35' caution a bit differently. Better to pull LIE no.17 out when cautioning him - the tackle was quite flying (never red tho) and you could feel that Xhaja didn't really 'win' the scene by booking him from a distance. He could have calmed the players down / underlined his authority here. But criticism on a high level! :)
Anthony - you described perfectly what I meant! So many referees lose control of games involving Andorra, Kazakhstan et al. because they are not prepared and act in a lenient/normal way, when you have to be very strict in order to assure match control, as you rightly outlined.
DeleteAbout 35' procedure, here is example of what I mean, from WC1986:
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huge work Anthony, I truly appreciate it. Did not see if Pairetto wanted Xhaja to check on monitor if it was red card or did he just told him no red keep play? For me this is red every day, home team played very dirty before this one to and many tackles were on the edge of red card. Observer here was Garibian and he can not be happy as he told french refs to always show red in this kind of situations.
ReplyDeleteWhat Garibian tells his refs in France is not relevant, if Garibian wants to work in UEFA games he must accept UEFA style and UEFA guidelines.
DeleteI think if Xhaja waited few seconds like many referee do and waited to hear what Pairetto thinks he shows red then. But when he already showed yellow it is over as this is not 100 % obviuos misstake. He was to fast there with yellow I think, should at least check with his assistent referee on right side who had better view.
ReplyDeleteVery good first half from Visser. Correct dissalowed goal, and spotted very good clear yellow card that was not easy to see. Good position and movement. I think he will be promoted to elite very soon.
ReplyDeleteWow, Visser's game 'exploded' now. Controversial penalty appeal for Slovenia (64'), Belgian ref played on - IMO correctly. He then managed consequent dissent by SVN players quite choatically, cautioning two players (tense atmosphere generated by a full crowd in Ljubljana btw).
ReplyDeleteIt is worth underlining to those who didn't watch the game that the atmosphere (quite surprisingly to me) was VERY intense in the stadium. The game was accordingly of quite high difficulty for Visser. I only watched the 2H but I saw the Belgian's limitations here - foul recognition not so good when the game is played fast (though v. good disciplinary choices), limited athletic profile / personality skills. I'm sure he'll achieve Elite status and Rosetti should be satisfied today, but Visser's overall progress in UEFA is a bit exaggerated in my opinion, given the skills that he brings to the table.
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Thx Anthony. To add - they showed an extra angle a few mins later on the feed:
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Some more scenes from the game:
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Would Ceferin accept Visser or will he have the same destiny as Cakir? :)
DeleteGood play on decision in 64' IMO, I really don't see a foul there. It would have been a mistake to whistle a penalty IMO.
DeleteRegarding subsequent dissent, I agree with Mikael W in describing the management as somewhat chaotic. More firmness was needed by the referee here, a clear, assertive explanation that enough is enough. What I don't like in Visser's approach is a somewhat passive stance, initially just giving YC's and walking away from problems, which created more chaos without sending any clear messages to the players. However, I have to say that I'm writing this based on provided replays, without watching the full game, so I can't properly evaluate if this scene was in line with the entire performance.
Anon 23:14 - if you watch the first clip in my latter comment, the answer should be clear :P.
DeleteI don't think he had any other choice. Because he already called a player out with a verbal warning earlier in the game. He was forced to give a disciplinary sanction when the player went 50 meters to complain to the referee... his authority would be questioned if he had not sanctioned the players.
DeleteFully agree, Groule, both YC's were fully appropriate. I didn't mean to question the cards, but what I personally perceive as a lack of firmness in the initial stage of this dissent, which was quite necessary in that particular scene, IMO. I can be wrong, of course.
DeleteTotally agree with you, Dukat192. Visser should have been more firmness, exactly !
Delete1st half in Glasgow. Potential penalty for Scotland, pulling at a corner kick, not given, would have been pretty soft.
ReplyDeletePotential 2nd yc very shortly after 1st yc for Ireland in added time. Certainly a potential 2yc but not 100% clear
As a Scotland fan I don’t think it’s a SYC, Scharer clearly understands that the momentum of the challenge is what causes the Scotland player to win the free kick correct decision after a good first YC for consistently kicking the ball away
DeleteKulbakov with same style as in Rennes-Fenerbahce. Very ,very lenient, missed two 100 % yellow cards and he can get again ugly scenes in second half as in Rennes.
ReplyDeleteCorrect intervention in Prague after a handball by Ronaldo in added time.
ReplyDeleteRumsas had 44:30 excellent minutes, and then he produced an "unforced" mistake: The Albanian Ajeti fouled the Israeli Haziza not far from the Albanian penalty-area, but the ball was still in the Israeli team's posession. It seemed Rumsas is going for the advantage and letting play-on. But unfortunately he made his mind up, whistled for a free-kick and hence robbed Israel of a goal-scoring opporunity. What will Trefoloni write in his notebook?
ReplyDeleteAfter 70 minutes, another missed advantage, this time near the halfway line. He might be excused as Haziza deceived the ref by pretending to be heavily injured. About three and a half minutes later, Rumsas assured everyone that he knows how to use the advantage rule in another Israeli attack. To sum up the ref's performance: a very confident and convincing display of refereeing.
DeleteAnybody is there who saw the 1st half of CZ vs POR? There was no need of referee for that half except the penalty call( I mean very clean game no foul, no aggressiveness, calm and cool). Penalty discission is 100% correct.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Not that many fauls, and very easy game for the referee team
DeleteCan not understand how Kulbakov as elite referee did not punish with yellow cards this stamps on foot with high intensity only because it is first half. He doing this in all games in Europe. He and Serdar Gozbuyak are only of elite refs that not giving cards for this if first half.
ReplyDeleteSco- Irl it would be to much with second yellow there as first one was for time wasting already in first half. But of some refs would go there with second yellow.
Penalty in Scotland for handball - correct decision imo to see that from Scharers view is good
ReplyDeleteA big confrontation in Scotland - handled well imo by Scharer with two YC’s to those who started the incident
ReplyDeleteVery calm and assured performance from Schärer in what was a challenging game in the end
ReplyDeleteExcellent refereeing dealing with this situation
ReplyDeleteClear calm and strong refereeing 🏴
Overall Scharer handled the game perfectly not much he could’ve done better all YC’s correct, correct PK for handball and handled confrontations well
ReplyDeleteSome key game on tuesday. Direct Relegation battle Irland- Armenia, Kosovo-Cyprus,Sweden-Slovenia and direct for first place Norway-Serbia and Portugal-Espanya.
ReplyDeleteYou can add CZE-SUI and SCO-UKR to that list.
DeleteKulbakov had a nightmare game in Cyprus ; a wrongly disallowed goal at the end.!I think his international career is going to an end
Deleteanoynmous 00:01, do you have the link about your incident that you mentioned? Don't be bias!
DeleteDo u understand Law 11? It was tight and quite difficult but correct decision by AR1. and overall good performance by the team despite since minor things.
DeleteDid not watched second half and goal situation so can not speak about that but whn you miss 3 mandatory yellow cards in same half it is not good enough for one elite referee. This guy is like english refs in 80-s. He try so hard to be Turpin and Makkelie but it goes wrong every time for him as he has not autority and charisma.
DeleteDon't make biased comments if you didn't watch full match or you can't show which incident you mean. Are you Kulbakov haters?
DeleteGot a chance to watch ESPSUI. Turpin did fine, calm and assuring. A bit lenient in first 20-30 minutes I think but quickly develop after Swiss scored. Addressed the players well (quickly spotted potential arguments so no chaotic moments) foul recognition’s good. 2 penalty claims (as long as I can remember) but both are soft so no big problem.
ReplyDeleteJovanovic whistled just 9 fouls :D
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DeleteAmazing atmosphere yesterday on the Rajko Mitich Stadium with more than 10 000 children.
ReplyDeleteVery good performance by Kabakov and his team in normal game which was in full control by the Bulgarians. Extremely difficult situation for AR 2 for the 3rd goal on-field decision Offside, corrected by VAR - impossible to be detected life.
Very good man-management, disciplinary control, TOP fitness and positionig during the game.
I've red many criticism for him in the blog but when, something is positive has to be mentions as well. It looks that Bulgarian is back.