Clip A17 - Apparently the studs challenge in Inter-Barca was assessed as a SFP red card (referee:Vincic). So I expected it to be a missed VAR-intervention as well, however according to the VAR image, the VAR is not allowed to make an intervention here.
Can someone provide a logical explanation why? I mean, RC is RC? It is not deemed borderline. We live in a world where referees are called for an OFR to punish very cheap handballs (arms just an inch too far away from the body, player’s protecting their face, etc.), however when a player’s safety has to be protected, the VMO’s hands are tight? UEFA are really losing it imho.
Hmm, I recall the 1st one (Marciniak’s game) was much discussed on this blog. It is deemed ‘glancing’ I guess ;) For me borderline; the speed is obviously lower than the Vincic (A17) example. If we just compare those two, there is a difference.
If example 2 and 3 are be assessed as a wrong RC, that is mind blowing...
I’m a bit lost regarding the VAR protocol. UEFA assessed a foul as a RC, but VAR is not allowed to intervene. That is not consistent. On the other hand, some of the most innocent handballs (including those most of us don’t want to decide a SF or F) HAVE TO CALLED by VAR, otherwise the VAR would be out of favor in Nyon. I’m losing the plot. Punishing a silly handball is more important than the players safety. 🤔
I had the same confusion. The point they are obviously trying to make in the first clips are 'don't be fooled by players-stepping-across incidents, these aren't reckless (fouls)' - which is a good one, imo! And then they show examples of where reckless tackles are still committed by players who step across a bit.
I was even fairly enthused by this RAP until you get to the later 'A' clips, such as the SFPs shown in the Benfica vs. Juventus game being called 'borderline' etc.
And by the way, just so everybody understands exactly what is going on here - in the situations test that the referees do at summer course and so on, when an RAP8 comes up, the answer marked in the test as correct is 'Direct Freekick -- YC'.
So: by 'borderline', in reality, they mean 'dark YC' only!
The answer marked as correct is DFK/NC. I find this interesting as on the scale a ‘2’ will highlight NO OFFENCE. So I expected a correct decision as NF/NC.
Anyway, if you watch the clip. The ball is won fairly by the player and then the contact comes. Which UEFA deem DFK/NC.
So this is never a YC but in some scenarios a DFK.
Like you and @Chefren say it seems decisions are being judged on the “moment” or context.
I was just surprised by this incorrect decision in my exam result.
In my opinion in recent times RAP is not clear and consistent as it was before, many strange and in my opinion definitely confusing assessments. I'm not so enthusiastic like I was before, in past years, when RAP is released, and maybe you noticed that because I don't comment it anymore. Before, all clips and evaluations were clear laws, now... difficult to understand and put a line between all the incidents. It seems that every case is treated based on the "moment" it happens...
Clip A17 - Apparently the studs challenge in Inter-Barca was assessed as a SFP red card (referee:Vincic). So I expected it to be a missed VAR-intervention as well, however according to the VAR image, the VAR is not allowed to make an intervention here.
ReplyDeleteCan someone provide a logical explanation why? I mean, RC is RC? It is not deemed borderline. We live in a world where referees are called for an OFR to punish very cheap handballs (arms just an inch too far away from the body, player’s protecting their face, etc.), however when a player’s safety has to be protected, the VMO’s hands are tight? UEFA are really losing it imho.
All of these clips are examples of what would be assessed as an incorrect RC:
Deletehttps://streamja.com/KB4R3
https://streamja.com/eNrJJ
https://streamja.com/jpOb3
Contrary to whatever they say, player safety is NO priority for UEFA...
Hmm, I recall the 1st one (Marciniak’s game) was much discussed on this blog. It is deemed ‘glancing’ I guess ;) For me borderline; the speed is obviously lower than the Vincic (A17) example. If we just compare those two, there is a difference.
DeleteIf example 2 and 3 are be assessed as a wrong RC, that is mind blowing...
I’m a bit lost regarding the VAR protocol. UEFA assessed a foul as a RC, but VAR is not allowed to intervene. That is not consistent. On the other hand, some of the most innocent handballs (including those most of us don’t want to decide a SF or F) HAVE TO CALLED by VAR, otherwise the VAR would be out of favor in Nyon. I’m losing the plot. Punishing a silly handball is more important than the players safety. 🤔
P2 - Official Answer is DFK/NC but 2 on the scale under 'No Offence'.
ReplyDeleteNF/NC is supportable or incorrect?
https://ibb.co/2SGsxzq
I had the same confusion. The point they are obviously trying to make in the first clips are 'don't be fooled by players-stepping-across incidents, these aren't reckless (fouls)' - which is a good one, imo! And then they show examples of where reckless tackles are still committed by players who step across a bit.
DeleteI was even fairly enthused by this RAP until you get to the later 'A' clips, such as the SFPs shown in the Benfica vs. Juventus game being called 'borderline' etc.
And by the way, just so everybody understands exactly what is going on here - in the situations test that the referees do at summer course and so on, when an RAP8 comes up, the answer marked in the test as correct is 'Direct Freekick -- YC'.
So: by 'borderline', in reality, they mean 'dark YC' only!
The answer marked as correct is DFK/NC. I find this interesting as on the scale a ‘2’ will highlight NO OFFENCE. So I expected a correct decision as NF/NC.
DeleteAnyway, if you watch the clip. The ball is won fairly by the player and then the contact comes. Which UEFA deem DFK/NC.
So this is never a YC but in some scenarios a DFK.
Like you and @Chefren say it seems decisions are being judged on the “moment” or context.
I was just surprised by this incorrect decision in my exam result.
Was there a UEFA course this summer?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion in recent times RAP is not clear and consistent as it was before, many strange and in my opinion definitely confusing assessments. I'm not so enthusiastic like I was before, in past years, when RAP is released, and maybe you noticed that because I don't comment it anymore.
ReplyDeleteBefore, all clips and evaluations were clear laws, now... difficult to understand and put a line between all the incidents.
It seems that every case is treated based on the "moment" it happens...