Wednesday 16 June 2021

UEFA EURO 2020 Match 15: Finland - Russia (discussion)

Danny Makkelie is the first referee to officiate a second game, Finland - Russia, opener of MD2 at EURO 2020. Let's comment here his performance. 


Group B
St. Petersburg, 16 June 2021 15:00 CET
FINLAND - RUSSIA
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: István Kovács (ROU)
Fifth Official: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: Kevin Blom (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2: Benjamin Pages (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 3: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Pierre Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Artur Azaryan (ARM)

76 comments:

  1. Not a good start for Makkelie. VAR intervention disallowing 1-0 for Finland because of a tight offside position in 4'.

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    1. Almost level.... a more understandable no flag then yesterday in Cerros game which was not criticaster....

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    2. I have a simillar feeling Marrkoo

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    3. I agree, it was very tight and an understandable miss. However, we definitely cannot say it was a good start for Makkelie, also considering the missed foul in 11'. Also, he overruled AR1 or gave advantage in 14'. So, I understand what you mean with "problems with Makkelie's team".

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    4. The very tight offside, as you mention, is nothing particular. Can happen as it happened to more AR’s this tournament.
      In the situation Ref_1707 mentions Makkelie just whistled the offside, so I don’t know what you mean by overruling or giving advantage?

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    5. Okay, well then it looked a bit strange because Makkelie made the "advantage" sign and AR1 also raised his hand...

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    6. To me it was a thumbs up sign between each other. But hey we all see what we want to see ;)

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  2. Third VAR intervention of the tournament: disallowed goal originally allowed by AR2. Tight offside.
    A particular remark, in all three cases of VAR interventions so far, the mistake has been allowing a goal and not the contrary (wrongly disallowing it). This can be easily explained by the fact that with VAR it is more likely to expect a very tight offside missed, than a correct goal disallowed with some doubts.

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    1. I thought the protocol was.

      Do not flag until the end of the attack. Wait if a goal is scored. If it is scored no signal. VAR will check the situation.

      So in that case it would be a good decision by the AR2.

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    2. No, AR2 must always report offside when action ends, VAR can't come before pitch decision.

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    3. That's not true. If you think the origin was offside you need to raise your flag when the goal is scored.

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  3. Clear missed YC on 11' for Russian

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  4. 11', missed foul and yc for foul on Kamara

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  5. Correct (dark) YC for Kamara in 21', reckless stamp on the ankle.

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  6. 21’ Correct YC for Kamara for reckless play, but he will feel unhappy after a similar challenge at 11’ in himself went unpunished.

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  7. 27' Correct YC for SPA given

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  8. 33' Correct YC to RUS7 (reckless tackle)

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  9. Quite challenging first half, with several cards issued by Makkelie.
    If the situation in 11' was an attempt to save cards, then he immediately noticed that it couldn't work and he changed his style.

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    1. He didn't even whistle the foul so he simply misjudged the situation.

      Besides that moment, fine performance. Correct YC's. Another remarkable thing, Kovacs is very passive at the sideline.

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  10. 37' very unlucky collision between players, we have a 100% unintentional kick on face given also with a certain force, but it is a situation in which you can't whistle a foul. Good alertness by Makkelie calling immediately doctors.

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  11. Mistake by Makkelie to allow the players to stay on the field after receiving treatment

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  12. 45' good advantage played by Makkelie a few seconds before Russia's goal

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  13. This was in my opinion among the most challenging first halves of the tournament. All cards issued by Makkelie are OK, he could have started earlier in 11'. Mistake by AR2 in a tight situation.

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  14. I think regarding to performance, referees in this EURO is the best in all big tournaments, of course technology plays a big part in this progress.

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  15. Except the missed very reckless step on foot in the 11th minute, Makkelie was very good - calm, composed, making good decisions, delaying some calls giving a room for advantage or VAR intervention. Well done so far!

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  16. Good performance except 11'. I couldn't catch, did he use yellow after the advantage?

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  17. Kovacs looks to be annoyed because he doesn't get games!

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  18. Good first half by Makkelie. Correct YCs (only 11' missed(.

    But I have the impression that his assistants are below expections in this tournament: AR1 in the opening match with some clear mistakes, today AR2 with a VAR correction and today AR1 had some 'communication problems' with Makkelie. VAR intervention can happen but for me too many mistakes by ARs in Team Makkelie.

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    1. What do you mean?

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    2. He is very calm (and that’s very good!) but sometimes quite "lazy", slow in his reactions. He does not give off much enthusiasm, energy...

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    3. Are you talking about Orsato right there? Just kidding ;)

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    4. Hahahha good joke (considering what is said on this blog). Orsato, these are other problems: quite inconstant in my opinion

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  20. I don’t know why, but I sometimes find Makkelie very / too soft in his attitude ...


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    1. I think this is his style, and Turpin has a similar style.

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  21. Who else feels sorry for mario diks right now? :/

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    1. Me. I appreciated Diks...

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    2. I know and I approve that.

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    3. I feel sorry for him too. Without considering the mistakes of Makkelie's ARs, being removed on the edge of refereeing an EC (the goal of a career for any European referee) for one very forgivable mistake (also wouldn't have happened if GLT was in place) is something very cruel IMO. A shame that several years of good games, dedication, sacrifices and passion were swept away with this call in Portugal-Serbia.

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    4. Exactly my point! If a mistake like that is such a big deal at this level, UEFA should’ve made sure there was GLT!

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    5. Guys please, again starting this discussion without knowing what exactly happened. Y’all speak about one mistake? Are you sure?

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    6. Offside at corner kick is a bigger mistake IMO.

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    7. I agree. Mistakes are part of refereeing and football in general. Diks missed the ball marginally crossing the line but Steegstra gave offside from a corner kick? That is a much bigger mistake imo! One is a human error, another is a mistake in law, which at this level is absolutely criminal!

      Yes, I have to admit, one mistake was the direct cause of a teams result, another was overlooked because it didn’t change the game.

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  22. 88' good YC to RUS14 (reckless tackle)

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  23. I think Makkelie did well, with the missed yellow card in 11' as the only significant error (completely missed offense). Calm and controlled well.

    UEFA will surely also take overall TEAM performances into account. And here I've the impression they fall below some other referee teams, like team Brych, Cakir, Lahoz and others. Too many mistakes, no clear routines recently.

    My feeling is UEFA will give Makkelie a 3rd group phase game, a quarterfinal and a final appointment (the latter as fourth official to someone else from his country;)).

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  24. Misses YC for an elbow offense.

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    1. It was issued, if you mean the 89. situation (#3 FIN)

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  25. I found the first half more challenging than the second part of the game, mostly calm. Apart from the situation in 11' and AR2 missed offside, the performance has been good. What I want to point out is that you have the feeling Makkelie had game under control. That's most important thing. The mistake by AR2 is excusable, tight offside.
    Before thinking about a KO stage, I wouldn't still exclude the chance to see a referee three times in group stage, we will see.

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    1. Three games in groupstage? That would mean, that others get only one, but as long as all refs did at least an acceptable job, Noone should be excluded from getting a 2nd game IMO.

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    2. There will be at least 2 referee’s without a 2nd group stage game anyway, as there are 19 referees and only 36 group stage matches.

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    3. Sure, but if everyone does do well, 2 will get their 2nd game in the knockout phase, I hope.

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  26. IMO missed YC for reckless use of arms (90'+6)

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  27. Good 2nd match for Team Makkelie. But, desappointed by AR...

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    1. Why disappointed? Because of the (very) tight offside call which led to the VAR intervention? In agree with Chefren, excusable. Furthermore, I haven't seen any mistakes this match, very good cooperation with AR1 in the first half.

      I agree that his AR's are not up to the level of Brych, Kuipers and others, but please give some reasons..

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    2. Just like Turpin’s and Del Cerro’s AR’s.

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    3. Too many mistakes by both ARs in both matches.

      It's a difference when you replace your AR1 right before the EURO due to one mistake or you work with the same ARs for more than 11 years like Cakir,Kuipers.

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    4. What did they do really wrong? De Vries' mistake was rather tight (Danos, Alonso Fernández's were clearer) and all other offside calls were correct according to my notes. The advantage procedure, thumbs up by Steegstra was nice cohesion (12' / 13'). So on this afternoon I don't see the bigger problem to be honest.

      Good performance by Makkelie IMO, he used cards astutely in line with UEFA guidelines.

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    5. Mikael +1

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  28. I like the first half but not so much the second. Missed YCs in 60' SPA, 76' reckless tackle, 90+5' reckless use of arm. In addition, a YC for reckless use of arm in 83' came very late, I guess it was an unofficial VAR intervention again... Adding to that a missed very reckless stamp at 11', the disciplinary control was far from good.

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  29. For me not convincing match for Makkelie.
    Again a VAR intervention in his team, disciplinary control especially in second half was very bad. Some minor problems in foul detection.
    Also the game was not difficult. No protests from both teams and all Ycs in first half correct but quite clear.

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    1. "Again a VAR intervention": it was his first of the tournament; and a very tight one.
      "Game was not difficult": Some others stated that the first half was one of the more difficult ones of the tournament.
      "disciplinary control in second half was very bad": some examples?

      What a joke

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    2. Enlighten me Ref545, what was the other VAR-intervention in his team?
      The way you defended Mr Cakir in almost all he did yesterday and the way you criticize this team today for me, yes, just don’t seems consistent.

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    3. Oh please. Makkelie was good. For me at least 8.3 level. I didnt see the "communication issues" mentioned by the Makkelie bashers. See what you want to see, but a far more predictable line than seen in FRA-GER yesterday. Ar2 with an understandable mistake corrected by VAR. It was very close. A YC missed at 11 is the only minor point for me in a quite challenging match. Especially in 1st half.

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    4. What is wrong witb a VAR intervention
      It seems you see it as a referee mistake.

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    5. @dutchref
      besides I'm completely not with ref545, but a VAR intervention IS a mistake of referee or his team.

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  30. "Makkelie didn't remove Barinov. Was the Russian team lucky with the referee?"
    That's the headline of article in Russia's most authoritative sports newspaper.
    https://ss.sport-express.ru/userfiles/materials/168/1686902/origin_797d0ea8.jpg
    https://ss.sport-express.ru/userfiles/materials/168/1686908/origin_99a8e7b6.jpg

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    1. To be honest, I thought there would be more discussion about that challenge at 11', but I guess no RC is supportable.

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  31. All the time the same persons or “anonymous” persons who will bring down Mr. Makkelie. For what reasons? Until now a great tournament for the referees. Nobody speak about them, go on guys

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  32. I really like Makkelie. It gives me a great sense of security, that he knows what he is doing. He transmits calm, when I see him referee, refereeing seems easy. IMO very good job.

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  33. I would like to add one more thing. Makkelie shows to be a great tournament referee. He is calm, concentrated and has a very good feeling for the game. He doesn’t whistle by the book and his disciplinary line is when necessary only. He has a good relationship with players, as we almost never see players complaining towards him. What ever decision he makes, there is acceptance and respect for him. Like today, he was full in control and everybody (players, coaches) were accepting him as the leader. Big personality and a nice presence. In the end it’s about the overall performance. Could he give one or two YC’s more? Yes he could, but that’s not important comparing to his strong performance. Refereeing isn’t black/white, when you give something you can take something. I do respect everyone’s opinion, but for me Makkelie was really good today with excellent football understanding. AR2 can’t be blamed for a player who was offside with his forehead and when the feet and body were in the same position with the defender. These situations are VAR stuff. I predict Makkelie for a third GS match. For Rosetti one thing counts the most, nobody can speak about the referee, like today was good advertisement for football and EURO.

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    1. I don’t understand why the general consensus on this blog is for referees to dish out as much cards as possible. A great referee does not aggravate the game by showing cards in the wrong moment. A referee who can control and manage a game without showing cards is a better referee than one who has to show cards in order to show authority.

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    2. Not as much as possible but if there is no argument for no card.

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  34. HIGHLIGHTS

    https://we.tl/t-QdoX7CEhUG

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  35. I like his style a lot. Only 38 years old, nice career ahead. All referees are really good at this EURO. UEFA can be happy with their new generation of referees. Rosetti is doing a good job to start with rejuvenate.

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