Saturday 26 June 2021

UEFA EURO 2020 Match 37: Italy - Austria (discussion)

Anthony Taylor in charge of Italy - Austria, in the Round of 16, this will be his third game in the competition. Let's follow him closely in this discussion. 



Round of 16
London, 26 June 2021 21:00 CET
ITALY - AUSTRIA
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Fifth Official: Stéphane de Almeida (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 3: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO) Darko Čeferin (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Myrsini Psarropoulou (GRE)

172 comments:

  1. Before the start of this game, and before the refereeing arguments begin, I will like to take this opportunity to say a big 'THANK YOU' to the blog administrators such as Chefren & Mikael W for the wonderful work they do everyday in keeping this blog alive and active.

    We should not take for granted the great work you guys are doing as blog administrators. You admin guys are the best!!!

    This blog has proven very informative, and allows loads of quality engagements. Although we sometimes agree to disagree, but this difference in opinion is what really makes this group interesting.

    PS: I still believe Wilson's red card is unacceptable though :D

    ReplyDelete
  2. Minute 1' clear YC! Sorry this can't be missed!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Well done Taylor with a small delay!

      Delete
    2. Why did he wait? Maybe an assist from AR1 or FO?

      Delete
    3. Unsure about the card, in my opinion, there wasn't any chance to have support from somebody else, given the position of the foul.
      Difficult to intervene for AR1, too far away.

      Delete
    4. I think he actually reached into his pocket immediately after the foul but then only showed it after calming everyone down.

      Delete
    5. Yes, I also think, he had his hand in the pocket immediately.

      Delete
    6. Indeed. I saw that, too.

      Delete
    7. His hand went to pocket but he didn’t get the card in his hand. If he took out the card i would understand the delay.

      Delete
  3. Yes, well done. Correct yc after 57 seconds!

    ReplyDelete
  4. Challenging start for Taylor, very intense game from the beginning. Correct YC in 1' but missed YC for Immobile in 7' for sliding into the goalkeeper.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. 7' is not mandatory IMO, because Immobile does everything to minimize the impact. If he had just slided on, it would have been reckless, but now I think, a YC is not neccessary.

      Delete
    2. Not a YC for Immobile. Fair slide for the ball and he pulled out before contact with the GK. Foul only is the correct decision.

      Delete
    3. No yellow card for immobile is correct, immobile attempted to pull out and no intent to hurt the GK

      Delete
    4. Clear YC missed. Foul from Immobile was reckless.

      Delete
    5. Seems like many people support the no card decision here. I accept that but disagree. It is a reckless tackle against the goalkeeper as Immobile had no control over his body. The only thing he could do – and he did so – was to make sure he does not hit the goalkeeper with his studs up. He could not avoid a collision because he was sliding too fast towards the goalkeeper. In case of studs up, it should have been a straight RC for SFP.
      So, it is a YC for a reckless tackle in my view.

      Delete
    6. I wanted a YC for that. Immobile needs to realise earlier, that he won't reach the ball before the GK.

      Delete
  5. Taylor did not intend to give a YC for that foul. He changed his mind simply because the fouled player stayed down and rolled around a bit.

    ReplyDelete
  6. The italian.lifted his feet and made contact with his bum - never a yellow card

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. As an Observer I can tell you for this incident not to give yc -0,2

      Delete
  7. Here we go again, Taylor haters are back 😩. I also saw that he reached to the pocked immediately, so his itention was to show YC. But far as I know, English referees usualy show YC as Taylor did, with certain delay, after situation is calmed.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Unlike Italians ref for example

      Delete
    2. Just can’t understand how people hate the likes of Taylor and Oliver. They are both very good referees but because a decision didn’t go there way in the prem they are just seen as “awful and corrupt”

      Delete
    3. Some folks here are a good joke. They dislike the referee and try to nitpick as hard as they can. Maybe the same who applaud the ridiculous RC shown by Siebert.

      Delete
  8. Now another possible YC but I find reasonable the decision by Taylor.
    One could say that only the challnge in 1' was worthy of a YC so far.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, I would agree with that

      Delete
  9. AR2 now with an excellent ONSIDE! They will start again with excellent calls like the prevous game, hopefully!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Both ARs made some excellent calls in the Portugal vs Germany game

      Delete
  10. Now he missed a foul leading to an Austrian counter attack.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Not a foul, just both players coming together - some claims for fouls not being given is the reason this tournament is going so well

      Delete
  11. I hope his "soft line" letting the match flow and ignoring some little fouls pays out later, I have my doubts...

    ReplyDelete
  12. Baumgartner got the free kick he hoped for now, so Taylor awarded an Austrian diver in the midfield...

    ReplyDelete
  13. All those things may have no big evidence, but his foul detection does not convince me tonight, up to now.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Stop complaining! He’s doing the right thing just cause they roll around that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a foul it’s just them over exaggerating

      Delete
  14. Wow, that was an extra long "wait and see" by AR2. Definitely too late call for me, noone expected the flag after such a long time.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Agree. Actually he could raise his flag at first. Even after he had chance to raise it when italian player passed the ball back.

      Delete
    2. Yes, I would add very clear offside, could the assistant have found more "courage" to raise the flag before? But most important thing is to allow VAR, in case, so no blame.

      Delete
    3. Yes, OK to wait for the first action, but should have raised the flag, when the ball was played out of the penalty area.

      Delete
    4. Indeed, this is the priority but why was there no flag after the ball had been kicked out of the penalty area? This is my main criticism here, Taylor even wanted to whistle earlier, you could see that in real speed. Of course, just small points but they are visible.

      Delete
  15. 42' correct to play on, not a penalty in my opinion, clear gestures by Taylor.

    ReplyDelete
  16. AR1 with a big delay for a big offside. I think in this case, when the offside is so obvious, the flag should be up faster because the delay coud lead into a injury or something.

    ReplyDelete
  17. Offsideflag 40´from Assistent unbelievable. Clear 3 meter offside and he delayed 30sec later. So poor.

    ReplyDelete
  18. Three words for Taylor: in total control!

    ReplyDelete
  19. IMO so far good, expected-level performance by Taylor. One correct YC, some other possibilities for cautions, but Taylor's choices were defendable and a value for the match for me.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes good performance so far

      Delete
    2. Taylor is by far the best referee in card management. Very few officials have his feeling and knowledge of the game and the players.

      Delete
  20. Solid performance by Taylor in a challenging game. He decided to be rather lenient, trying to save some YCs. Until now, everything goes well (although there were some players who were not happy with Taylor's decisions and some protests). But he has to be aware that it could become dangerous...

    ReplyDelete
  21. I think if a hesitant flag from AR2 is all there is to talk about, I think they’re doing well!

    Brave YC in 1st minute (unusual in tournament but correct), calm control, letting play flow, ignoring players going down for soft fouls, quick to stop play for the AUT player and head injury.

    A very good 1st half in a really good game.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Totally agreed. Class act in 1st half.

      Delete
  22. Wow, Italians are furious now. A lot of complaining.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Only Italian players can do that, I know them very well, a shame to be honest.

      Delete
  23. Clear foul now, what a poor reaction by Italian players. Well deserved YC. Taylor is in full control.

    ReplyDelete
  24. 49' Spot on. Foul outside the box. YC.

    ReplyDelete
  25. Wrong fk and YC from Taylor. Influenced from the Austrian player's screaming and rolling around.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Wrong comment from Lawaj. Influenced from negative attitude towards Taylor.

      Honestly, how can you disagree with that???

      Delete
    2. Maybe you missed the replay, I can only think that, very clear decision... but not later when Taylor I think missed YC to #19 AUT.

      Delete
    3. To be honest, I also wasn't sure about it after watching the replay once - so I checked again after your comments. The tricky thing is that he gets a lot of ball simultaneously with a rather small contact with the opponent. But as the leading foot hits the opponent and the trailing leg more randomly gets the ball, I agree with the foul decision. However not 100% clear for me.
      And I would also say, that the YC should not be for a reckless challenge, but only for SPA.

      Delete
    4. I’m more on the line of Lawaj as well here for the reason Philipp says. Much ball, little opponent.

      Delete
  26. Unbelievable dissent by Italian players. At least one caution issued for that, but Taylor just stands there and does nothing. The teams recognize what they are allowed to do, referees have no possibilites because of the guidelines. I strongly disapprove of that.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I think Barela was booked for dissent during the protests. But on the other hand, you can understand the Italian players' anger.
      The fk was quite contentious.

      Delete
    2. Not a reason for the outrage - there complaints wont change Taylor’s mind

      Delete
    3. Beside the fact that it is a clearly correct decision, it's very dangerous to justify dissent when the decision is wrong, we should protect referees from this excessive complaining, also when decisions are wrong.

      Delete
    4. I always have to laugh a bit when people try to give their opinion more weight by saying “clearly”, “very clear”, “most obvious”. It seems we see many, many clear situations this tournament :)

      Delete
    5. I'm NOT justifying dissent. Dissent should never be tolerated in any football match.

      I'm just stating that as humans in a highly charged high stake game, the fear and anger of the Italians in conceding a dangerous and highly contentious FK is understandable.

      Just in the same way the Austrians are angry at not being awarded a PK.

      Delete
    6. "we should protect referees from this excessive complaining"

      But the referee's don't protect themselves. They just stand there and take it. But it's kind of tough when they've been stripped of their tools.

      So what are the referee's to do when the Ref Comm strips (instructs/prohibits) them of the ability to punish these sort of acts?

      Delete
  27. Now missed YC to #19 AUT, in my opinion to be given. Reckless tackle.

    ReplyDelete
  28. Another good decision from Taylor - no foul 👍🏻

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. A great decision - no foul on insigne and Austria score 👏🏼

      Delete
    2. Although it looks to be offside

      Delete
    3. Were we offered a replay of this play on call?

      Delete
  29. Excellent now Taylor (64:00) with a correct play on, simulation outside the box.

    ReplyDelete
  30. IMO an obvious booking missed for AUT9 for a reckless stamp in the foot near the touch line.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Offside to be checked, probably the goal for AUT is not valid.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Offside! Correct VAR intervention. Close call but AR2 could have seen it. Unlucky performance by AR2 today after the strange offside flag in first half.

      Delete
  32. No fault for AR2, very difficult situation, but we must report second VAR intervention in two games today again for correcting an offside decision.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes! The correct decision in the 92nd minute of Denmark game and now this - great officiating from VAR all round

      Delete
    2. Top refereeing indeed.

      Delete
  33. Why Hugh Dallas was replaced with Darko Čeferin? Maybe Dallas will watch the referee from Glasgow between Sweden and Ukraine.

    ReplyDelete
  34. Now a possible penalty for Austria, but a possible handball before.
    VAR at work.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I think it’s offside being checked

      Delete
    2. If the ball came from an Austrian player, it would have been offside as well I think.

      Delete
    3. Even two possible offside missed before by AR2.
      Not the best performance!

      Delete
    4. VAR should support Taylor's decision. Offside given after VAR intervention, so two missed offside positions leading to the incident.

      Delete
    5. Agreed, Chefren. I am sorry for AR2 but today is not his day. Even "normal" spectators recognise that.

      Delete
    6. Without the offside, also the possible handball by Hinteregger would have been an interesting point for discussion.

      Delete
  35. One candidate less for final, after this game.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Why? Correct decision.

      Delete
    2. LOL There is not a single wrong decision. Very good from Taylor actually. With another official, there would be 20 players on the pitch and the players would be fighting each other.

      Delete
  36. Now we can maybe state that without offsides before, VAR would have invited Taylor to rewatch the challenge, otherwise they woldn't have called offside, the silent check would have ended.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes I thought that too but we have AVAR2 to check offside and VAR+AVAR1 to decide whether it could be an OFR. It is indeed possible that they wanted to wait for AVAR2 to make a final decision about OFR.

      Delete
    2. In case, one could also disuss, whether it remains a big mistake by Taylor to miss that penalty.

      Delete
    3. Ref_1707 that unfortunately is not the protocol because more time will be wasted with that, they first have to check the foul it’s self if it’s worthy of a Penalty and only then if they do say it’s worthy of a review then they check offside leading to the potential foul, doing it the other way will waste a lot of time because you spend a minute or more drawing lines and in this case 2 lines where drawn for potentially two offside and after that you now check the foul which might not be a doubt....

      Delete
  37. Not best evening for AR2 Adam Nunn.

    ReplyDelete
  38. Taylor saved from a missed penalty for illegal use of the arm by the Italian defender due to offside. Otherwise OFR for sure.

    ReplyDelete
  39. Offside from the freekick, offside from the flick and maybe handball

    ReplyDelete
  40. Taylor is apathetic.. not communicating, no preventive actions.

    ReplyDelete
  41. Finally, it was a good decision by the commitee to take in charge Taylor for this game. Good choice.

    ReplyDelete
  42. For intensity, among the most difficult games at this tournament so far.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Among the most difficult games together with HUNG-POR.

      Delete
  43. On that VAR check, wasn’t it habdball before offside?

    ReplyDelete
  44. Spot on assignment.....calmness, waving away flop/dive appeals, stands in well when mobbed for var checks...uefa will be happy...no faults on any offsides in 2nd half...too close, one 3metre clear one 1st half should have been flagged. TAYLOR is a Prem.ref. he has been thru it all before

    ReplyDelete
  45. Very good from Taylor actually. With another official, there would be 20 players on the pitch and the players would be fighting each other.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hahaha it’s not even difficult

      Delete
  46. 89' this was a revenge foul after Italy continued to play, pushing with both arms, well.... a YC wouldn't have been wrong, but in my opinion this time Taylor didn't look alert as before, a mass confrontation could have easily started.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. YC is not necessary IMO

      Delete
    2. Clear yellow card. Without any chance to play the ball a hard push in the back. Unsporting behaviour.

      Delete
    3. I would say, a YC is the expected decision there, because it clearly was done deliberately to stop the game. However not a clear argument for it in the LotG, I think (other than general unsporting behaviour).

      Delete
    4. But it didnt, he had everything under complete control

      Delete
    5. Siebert would have shown RC. Just kidding. Guys, there should be enough players for the match to go on.

      Delete
  47. Some minor mistakes in 1st half and a linesman without luck. But for me Taylor with a good performance in a difficult match, very good foul detection in 2nd half!

    ReplyDelete
  48. Taylor with a solid performance but let me say that I am not fully convinced. In my view, it seems like he is not as aware of some incidents, some conflicts on the pitch as in the other games. GER-POR was definitely excellent but somehow I have the impression that it is not his best match today. AR2 has an unlucky day while AR1 is great. Interesting 30 minutes to follow.

    ReplyDelete
  49. Good solid 90 minutes from Taylor

    ReplyDelete
  50. I'm a Taylor fan, but I didn't like the first 60 minutes today.
    Since then, he has been quite solid and consistent in a pretty challenging match. Let's hope that continues until the end.

    ReplyDelete
  51. Handball before goal scored! Crucial mistake by Taylor and crew!!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Arms were open but he touched only by chest, I checked carefully that and VAR did the same, of course.

      Delete
    2. Anonymous 23:07 Do you have behavioral problems? You can react in a decent manner as well!
      At least one can ask the question of Chiesa touched the ball by arm just before he scored. Very, very close at least.

      Delete
  52. It seem as though some users (or the same) want Taylor to fail. Guys, mind your manners. He's been probably the best of the lot so far.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. And it seems the other part of the users (or the same) want to comment him towards the final :)

      Delete
    2. Are you kiddimg or are you italian? Because there is no other option for that comment.

      Delete
    3. I'm not Italian and I do think Taylor has been the best thus far. Furthermore, he has arguably the most challenging games (POR-HUN, ITA-AUT).

      Delete
    4. Taylor did not officiate POR-HUN ;p

      Delete
    5. POR-GER of course!

      Delete
  53. Now very clear YC for both reckless and SPA.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Chefren, you would have dismissed at least two players with your line.

      Delete
  54. Masterclass from Taylor tonight. Direct to SF or Final.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Are you italian?

      Delete
    2. I love this blog! Either GO HOME or MASTERCLASS, FINAL!
      :D

      Delete
    3. @Anonymous at 23:16: are you Austrian?

      Delete
    4. Saying Taylor should be direct to SF is a very fair statement. Great strong official

      Delete
  55. I think we should all be happy that we saw a brilliant young ref and a very solid performance afterwards in a challenging game, so let's be happy about the refs being all in all successfull in this tournament so far. Playing chearleader for special refs hoping to support them this way does not make any sense: That does not even help the ref or the commentator.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. All the referees deserve some sort of credit, none have made a shocking mistake, a game changing mistake. Brilliant all around and specifically for Taylor based on tonight’s performance

      Delete
    2. Who was the brilliant young ref?

      Delete
    3. Daniel Siebert

      Delete
    4. I assume he is speaking of Siebert who I thought got some overheated comments

      Delete
    5. overhated*

      Delete
    6. Siebert is 37 so hardly young.

      Delete
    7. Well who knows what he was on about then

      Delete
    8. 37 is relatively young age for referees at this level.

      Delete
    9. His ARs are 36 years old, so indeed a young team. They did an excellent job and also Taylor today was good.

      Delete
  56. Now Austria scored, very challenging last minutes for Taylor I guess!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Chefren who you say it’s fair for Taylor to be appointed to a SF

      Delete
    2. We should wait for the end of he game for a proper assessment...

      Delete
    3. Anonymous what’s the need for that. He hasn’t been biased in anyway

      Delete
  57. 120' penalty appeal by Italy, reasonable to play on.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I’m new to this blog, Chefren are you a referee yourself

      Delete
  58. Solid performance by Taylor: excellent foul selection, not great card management (two mandatory YCs missed (15' and 53'), others possible (7', 89',111') and I would have preferred a YC to Verratti (dissent) in the first half). He missed a penalty, but there were a handball and two offsides before that, so no problem. Bad night for AR2

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. He did not miss any penalty.

      Delete
  59. Very challenging game. If we avoid AR2 mistakes, Taylor did a good job. He can get another appointment in the same stadium IMO.

    ReplyDelete
  60. I don't get these "he could get the final" comments to be honest. It is unnecessary to talk about the final and the semis. Everything depends on how the results will look like. Taylor won't get a SF if England will be there. Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Spain, England – they all have good teams. As Germany will play against England on Tuesday, we will have to wait. It could be a good game for Taylor or Brych...

    ReplyDelete
  61. Taylor produced a good performance in a hot, challenging game. His calls were mostly correct (not always but there were so many duels in this match and we should take this into account, too) however in some cases brought dissenting behaviour. What I didn't like today is that Taylor didn't even try to reach players on communication level. I think some (public) warnings would have prevented some scenes. It was too much 'whistle and decide about card' approach, no middle way between only FK and FK and YC. That's why I would call his today's performance good but not very good.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Oh, and by the way I would prefer stronger moderation of comments by Admin Team. Some of them are simply space consuming, some even insulting ("shit in eyes")...

      Delete
  62. In my opinion overall it was a good performance by Taylor, who looked to be always in control (maybe less in some moments, but given the difficulty one can understand) of the game. Very challenging from the beginning. Big points for discussion are the possible cards that he didn't want to issue. At least two were mandatory in my opinion. However, as somebody already reported, nothing to say about foul detection. The penalty would have been assigned without offside, but since it couldn't exist, committee will not consider this as crucial mistake. The overall imagine is rather positive. Bad day for AR2, but this can happen, no problem. Now, maybe we can't talk about a final appointment so early and we must also see what will happen with Oliver and England national team, however, I wouldn't be so surprised to see Taylor indeed assigned to a semifinal.
    I didn't understand the nature of some anonymous comments during this game against Taylor and against Italy. I think there weren't situations in which he can be blamed, rather, one or two possible cards he didn't give were for Austria.
    With a more refined disciplinary management, he could have been even more accurate in this game, but again, I look from the point of view of the difficulty of this game.
    First thing is that there aren't controversial decisions at the end, and a so hot game has ended with people enjoying football.
    We will see what committee has in mind, before some possible replies to this message, let me specify this is just my opinion.
    And to some anonymous from Austrian side, please comment in detail without short sentences, I would like to understand more about your anger, because in my opinino there weren't particular incidents in the game clearly against Austria.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Chefren, I completely agree with absolutely everything that you have written. But IMO there is a huge difference between your analyses here and your usual way of analyzing some other referee. As you are absolutely right for the missed cards, I have never seen from you to mention missed cards in the games of the likes of Turpin, Kuipers or Makkelie. And actually there are plenty of missed mandatory cards in every their game. But you never called this "big points for discussion". As a blog admin, please try next time to make the same type of analyses for the games of these referee also. Anyway, I would like also to congratulate you for the blog and to thank you for the work and efforts you put in.

      Delete
  63. Over the course of the whole 120mins, Anthony Taylor had a good game tonight.
    As many people already know, I am NOT his fan, and I have been critical of him in the past. But he was generally fine today.

    At times, he made some questionable/poor choice of foul selections in my opinion.

    But to be fair, he generally allowed the game to flow, and for that, I am highly impressed. A good candidate for a QF or SF.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. He's the perfect referee for a final. Understands the game like no other and doesn't kill the show, also abiding by the rules. That's exactly what one needs in the championship match.

      Delete
    2. Agreed. I think most players and teams would welcome Taylor in the final because they know he lets the game flow without losing control.

      Delete
  64. IMO a good, expected level performance by Taylor on a challenging match. His foul detection was good. Very good decision on the 1st YC of the match regardless of the min. His management of the match and the players were also good.

    2 mistakes by AR2 (the 2nd one is very tight -> not that this excueses a PL assistant).

    Good decision by Rosetti this appointment. A further one would certainly be deserved.

    ReplyDelete
  65. Another very good display by Taylor. The game was quite challenging and he kept his cool. Foul detection always clear and coherent. Card management was superb. It shows he's the referee who best understands the flow of the game and the perspective of the players, harmonizing them quite well. Made his case for the final.

    ReplyDelete
  66. HIGHLIGHTS

    https://we.tl/t-J9EDYZR9Yb

    ReplyDelete

Thank you for writing a comment on our blog!